Re: Programming OM

2008-05-07 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi. Clinton Ebadi schrieb: I'm working on porting GNU clisp[0] to EABI ARM. It cross compiles, but without generational GC or an FFI yet which limits its usability a . The FFI problems require a bit of assembly hacking which is new to me (ah munging with the stack! The black abyss of horror).

Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-07 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Wednesday, 7 de May de 2008 01:56:16 ian douglas va escriure: As I've mentioned already though, the copies I'm getting are all duplicates from the mailing list -- I got two copies of your message, but both copies were only sent to the mailing list. None of the extra copies I've received

Re: Software

2008-05-07 Thread David Samblas Martinez
And why not implement a execute command option in the PIM Task Manager(Schedule)? If the neo will be able to wake up to play a sound and/or buzz, I suppose it can execute a shell command and sleep again when finished. (maybe this was already implemented/planned, isn't it?) --- Ryan Prior [EMAIL

Re: Software

2008-05-07 Thread joerg
Am Mi 7. Mai 2008 schrieb David Samblas Martinez: And why not implement a execute command option in the PIM Task Manager(Schedule)? If the neo will be able to wake up to play a sound and/or buzz, I suppose it can execute a shell command and sleep again when finished. The interesting bit of

Re: Software

2008-05-07 Thread David Samblas Martinez
(WARNING! NON DEVELOPER OPINION BELOW) As I read from other device RTC acts just like another wakeup event (as an screen touch or a button) when the stored time equals the always running clock. Here I have doubts, the app associated to that alarm event is stored anywhere in some kind of sorted by

Re: OpenMoko GTA02 status (Searching lists archives)

2008-05-07 Thread Christian Beier
Am Mon, 5 May 2008 22:16:25 +0200 schrieb Martin Bernreuther [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Montag, 5. Mai 2008 schrieb Adilson Oliveira: There was an email yesterday from Steve talking about it. Check the archives, please. Is there an easy way to search within the lists archives? I didn't notice

Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM)

2008-05-07 Thread Oliver Uvman
Jesus! I thought I was the only one wanting to program CL on the OM. I've had lots of interesting ideas on how to use a gesture-based interface for writing CL, which could work only thanks to the sparse syntax, and plan to make that some of the first things I program for my OM. Hooray! /Oliver

OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Lally Singh
Nah, I'd been planning on getting haskell up for OM. They already have a basic ARM target for ghc, and there's already a haskell-GTK mapping. But, now that we're talking about development environments, who'd be interested in using an IDE for developing OM? I was thinking about putting together

accuracy gps-chip?

2008-05-07 Thread Jens Meyer
Hello all (especially the GPS-specialists)! Actually I am considering to buy an external GPS-mouse (bluetooth + datalogger) for geotagging, tracking and navigation purposes (standalone and with actual handy-software). Of course I am waiting for the Freerunner, too and the question occured if

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Fabian Off
Hey! I personally really like this idea and I'd be glad to test your plugin :) It'd fit fine into my NetBeans. Finally it'll get a use besides being abused for php-scripting... Testing on Kubuntu Hardy 8.04 Mac OS X 10.5.2 if you want. Greetings, Fabian Off - Ursprüngliche Mail Von:

RE: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Crane, Matthew
What's wrong with Eclipse? It's much more common for embedded IDE's isn't it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: OM IDE (was: Re: Common

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Lally Singh
Eclipse has a faster widget toolkit, but it tends to be a lot buggier dumber about a lot of things. You end up spending a lot more time fiddling with it to work right than NB. The tradeoff w/NB is that it tends to do the right thing, but is slower. Definitely so on my mac, but the speed

Re: accuracy gps-chip?

2008-05-07 Thread Peter Kraker
GPS in in freerunner is made by u-blox, antaris 4 I beleive. A bit less sensitive than Sirf III or u-blox LEA-5H (which is excellent) but still a very good GPS receiver. I think you won't need a data logger with Freerunner in your pocket. As for GPS receiver over bluetooth, it's perfectly

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
Hmm... KDevelop 4? (it's being reimplemented and is looking super-nifty by now) :) Wednesday 07 May 2008 skrev Lally Singh: Nah, I'd been planning on getting haskell up for OM. They already have a basic ARM target for ghc, and there's already a haskell-GTK mapping. But, now that we're

Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-07 Thread Josh Schonstal
This problem happened quite a while ago on this mailing list, if I recall correctly. I remember quite a bit of discussion about it, around August 2007. The conclusion that seemed to be drawn at the time was that the list was sending out duplicates. The solution that I ended up using was getting

Re: Software

2008-05-07 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 IMO this seems to be a good way. Is there an entry for this in the wiki, yes? thomasg schrieb: | I think there should be a daemon handling this tasks. | As the RTC-alarm can only be once (every day), the daemon would have to handle this to allow

Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-07 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I use Thunderbird, too. A filter checks if the mail is from a mailinglist and sorts it automatically into a folder. But I never had problems with double mails. Greeting Bastian Jose Luis Perez Diez schrieb: | El Wednesday, 7 de May de 2008

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Lally Singh
You're welcome to do so :-) I use NB for development for my day job the PhD. I also have no respect for KDevelop. I think it's almost as terrible as Visual Studio. On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... KDevelop 4? (it's being reimplemented

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Soulnds like a good idea, even if i preferred Eclipse more ;-). I don't have any problems with Eclipse and use it for Java, PHP and C. But if you prefer Netbeans and you want to write the plugin it's over to you. So when it's finished I will

RE: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Crane, Matthew
Which eclipse version were you using? I think in the past, like 2y ago, it was buggier. I'd say it's pretty solid these days. And it's way faster. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:19 PM To:

Re: Common Lisp for OM

2008-05-07 Thread Clinton Ebadi
Oliver Uvman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus! I thought I was the only one wanting to program CL on the OM. I've had lots of interesting ideas on how to use a gesture-based interface for writing CL, which could work only thanks to the sparse syntax, and plan to make that some of the first

Re: Programming OM

2008-05-07 Thread Clinton Ebadi
Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Clinton Ebadi schrieb: . The FFI problems require a bit of assembly hacking which is new to me (ah munging with the stack! The black abyss of horror). Are we talking about the same libffi here? AFAIK libffi gained ARM EABI support by now (last

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Lally Singh
Latest one as of maybe a month ago. NB 6.1 is pretty fast now. What I don't like about eclipse isn't stuff that changes overnight. And again, I don't spend my time compensating for eclipse being stupid. I used to write plugins/compilers for eclipse, it's even worse on the inside. Feel free

Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-07 Thread Joachim Steiger
hi, i would really like to get this issue resolved if it is one. but for that i would need some _complete_ mails with _all_ headers of the dups. (both dups) so if it happens again, please create a ticket at http://admin-trac.openmoko.org/ and attach both raw mails, so we admins have a chance to

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
Wednesday 07 May 2008 skrev Lally Singh: You're welcome to do so :-) I use NB for development for my day job the PhD. I also have no respect for KDevelop. I think it's almost as terrible as Visual Studio. Note, please, that i said KDevelop 4, not KDevelop ;) There's a huge difference,

Re: Software

2008-05-07 Thread Clarke Wixon
thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think there should be a daemon handling this tasks. Yes. I think the OpenDeviceDaemon http://www.freesmartphone.org/mediawiki/index.php/Implementations/OpenDeviceDaemon and

RE: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Crane, Matthew
Ouch.. Kdevelop is a great way to quickly get an autotooled project going, work with a shell, doxygen, cvs, gdb. Yea, it may have a few more stability issues then even eclipse. I mean, if you are expecting perfection, open-source tools just aren't going to appeal. I guess Netbeans was

Re: accuracy gps-chip?

2008-05-07 Thread Brad Midgley
Jens I found further information how to use the GPS-information from Neo/Freerunner via Bluetooth on a laptop. Will it be possible to use the Freerunner as external GPS-device via bluetooth with a Nokia N73 also (perhaps with following the description under Bluetooth GPS relay?)? yes,

Re: accuracy gps-chip?

2008-05-07 Thread Nils Faerber
Peter Kraker schrieb: GPS in in freerunner is made by u-blox, antaris 4 I beleive. A bit less sensitive than Sirf III or u-blox LEA-5H (which is excellent) but still a very good GPS receiver. I think you won't need a data logger with Freerunner in your pocket. Just from my experience: I would

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
I use vim, and it is the best IDE I have ever used:) (My point is that it is impossible to get people to agree on one IDE, since we all have different taste and needs) -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF

Re: Software

2008-05-07 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 5/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mi 7. Mai 2008 schrieb David Samblas Martinez: And why not implement a execute command option in the PIM Task Manager(Schedule)? If the neo will be able to wake up to play a sound and/or buzz, I suppose it can execute a shell

Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM)

2008-05-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Oliver Uvman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus! I thought I was the only one wanting to program CL on the OM. I've had lots of interesting ideas on how to use a gesture-based interface for writing CL, which could work only thanks to the sparse syntax, and plan

Re: OpenMoko GTA02 status (Searching lists archives)

2008-05-07 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Christian Beier wrote: Am Mon, 5 May 2008 22:16:25 +0200 schrieb Martin Bernreuther [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Montag, 5. Mai 2008 schrieb Adilson Oliveira: There was an email yesterday from Steve talking about it. Check the archives, please. Is there an easy way to search within the lists

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Bastian Muck ha scritto: Soulnds like a good idea, even if i preferred Eclipse more ;-). I don't have any problems with Eclipse and use it for Java, PHP and C. But if you prefer Netbeans and you want to write the plugin it's over to you. So when it's finished I will install Netbeans, too.

RE: interesting development in the world of WiMax

2008-05-07 Thread David Samblas Martinez
meanwhile it this future OM suports usb 2.0... http://www.airspan.com/products_wimax_custprem_16eUSB.aspx I have sent a mail to them to know if possible to work on USB 1.1 but I'm pretty sure the answer will be no ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I had a colleague send me this URL

Re: Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Jeremy List
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedBastian Muck ha scritto: Soulnds like a good idea, even if i preferred Eclipse more ;-). I don't have any problems with Eclipse and use it for Java, PHP and C.

Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

2008-05-07 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't know how fast your computer is, but i never had performance issues. Even in a VMWare-Image my Eclipse worked very fine (and I don't think I'm a slow hacker). The only thing, which can be slow is the code-completion. But this can be

questions for steve regarding group purchases

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Paulson
steve, what methods are being considered by openmoko for group purchasing? most of us do now know the other members of a group and would like some security that the group organised is not able to run off with the money - are openmoko willing to engage in purchases via escrow agents? or is it a

Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-07 Thread onimas
I had this only once about 2 weeks ago. Never happened ever since. Will -Original Message- From: Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 20:16:39 To:List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies

How many framebuffers does openmoko has?

2008-05-07 Thread Bin Chen
Hi, I just take a look at media player source code, seems the mplayer use the fbdev directly instead of X. So I think there are two fbdev in system? One for X the other for mplayer? Otherwise it will conflict. Thanks. Bin ___ Openmoko community

Re: How many framebuffers does openmoko has?

2008-05-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 8 May 2008 11:04:37 +0800 Bin Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, I just take a look at media player source code, seems the mplayer use the fbdev directly instead of X. So I think there are two fbdev in system? One for X the other for mplayer? nup. there can be only one. (yes - bad

Re: questions for steve regarding group purchases

2008-05-07 Thread ian douglas
Robin Paulson wrote: steve, what methods are being considered by openmoko for group purchasing? Hi Robin, I can't speak directly for Steve and Openmoko, I'm guessing that once we get enough people for a bulk order, one of us will need to collect payments from everyone else, then place the

Re: questions for steve regarding group purchases

2008-05-07 Thread Mo Abrahams
Maybe I am just naïve, but in a community like this I doubt that there will be anybody with malicious intent, I would be semi-willing to purchase phones before receiving money for them, and would also trust another purchaser with my money before receiving the phone. When the product becomes more