Headset Amp circuitry (jOERG)

2008-05-31 Thread Yorick Matthys
There used to be a problem with this. AFIK jOERG mentionned it first in the devel list: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-March/001994.html Does anybody know if it has been resolved and/or if the mp3 playback quality can be compared with a standard mp3 player? Thanks y

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-31 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | +1 ;-) So, how is unmounting SD card to share it going to work on GTA03. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora -

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-31 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | If someone knows what to do to get gps device going and can instruct me, | Qtopia 4.4 has a mapping demo for testing. It has both nmea and gpsd plugins. Here is a standalone shell script to see GPS NMEA

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-31 Thread Matt Mets
Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | +1 ;-) So, how is unmounting SD card to share it going to work on GTA03. How come that is an issue? (warning: wild speculation) Does the GTA03 not have flash? If so, you could

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-31 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 21:37 -0700, Mike Montour wrote: http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=5262651 says that the iPhone plug uses: tip=R, ring1=L, ring2=Common, sleeve=Mic (which is not what I would have guessed) God damn it, Apple. Ground is supposed to be closest to the

Re: 2.5 or 3.5mm?

2008-05-31 Thread Lasse Poulsen
On Fri, 30 May 2008 19:19:18 -0700 Ajit Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am new to the world of cell phones, so please bear with me. And, I am not trying to start a flame. I have a corded phone and a cordless phone. I purchased a wired headset from a local store that fits

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-31 Thread ramsesoriginal
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Green wrote: [snip] I think most phones that are capable of doing usb network/storage do this, as well as the Nokia tablet devices. It is not that difficult to make the software safely umount the sd/cf/whatever on

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Rahul Joshi
The very first thing a phone thief does is throw away the SIM. No SIM, No SMS, No protection.. erm.. destruction :) Rahul J On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vinc Duran wrote: I like the stolen phone sms message. Me too. When can I start erasing the

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-31 Thread Kevin Dean
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Mike Montour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Dean wrote: Unscientific testing, yes. The echo is still there. :) s/)/(/ Can you please add a note about this to bug #1267? How bad was the echo - enough that a normal person would complain about it, or

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The very first thing a phone thief does is throw away the SIM. No SIM, No SMS, No protection.. erm.. destruction :) When my friends phone got stolen it happened the other way - some people. whose numbers were in his phone

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 2:04 AM, Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could make it longer too. I mean you could require receiving multiple sms's. It could be a very long key. Why bother? Even using only alphanumeric characters (I've counted 62 characters) there are more than 10^216

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
(warning: wild speculation) Does the GTA03 not have flash? If so, you could partition the SD card, and then only unmount the partition used for media storage. wild speculation Having two memory card slots (one for OS, one easy accessible for usage with changeable memory cards) could be nicer

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-31 Thread Mike Montour
Kevin Dean wrote: I'd like to reconfirm this before reporting, or at least kill my theory before reporting on it and creating a false lead. It seems that the SIM itself is important. Two likely factors affecting GSM buzz are: which band it's using (850 or 1900), and the transmitted signal

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I read an provocative estimate a year or so ago that each extra character of a password adds only on average 1.5 bits of entropy to it. ~ Considering how most passwords are

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ian Darwin
Ilja O. wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vinc Duran wrote: I like the stolen phone sms message. Me too. When can I start erasing the phones of people I don't like? :-) You'll have to try hard to guess 120 random alphanumeric (at least) characters.

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Rahul Joshi
1. This is exactly why thieves dump the SIM in the first place. To avoid getting SIM tracked, which is the quickest easiest. 2. IMEI tracking is as you said involves paperwork but which makes keeping a stolen phone of no use to anyone. Cops use this (in tandem with carriers) to track offenders if

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Rahul Joshi
I'm no security expert but I'm pretty sure a lightweight 8 bit salt encryption (security guys?) can give any dektop pc software enough trouble to abort the attempt of trying to read a 256 meg worth of datacard, unless it really belongs to the director operations FBI ;) Rahul J On Fri, May 30,

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: Kevin Dean wrote: I'd like to reconfirm this before reporting, or at least kill my theory before reporting on it and creating a false lead. It seems that the SIM itself is important. Two likely factors affecting GSM buzz are: which band it's

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-31 Thread Lally Singh
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Ilja O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wild speculation Having two memory card slots (one for OS, one easy accessible for usage with changeable memory cards) could be nicer than standard (current) architecture. You flush operating system with simple card reader.

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-31 Thread Mike Montour
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA01_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29 you read this field during a call when actually transmitting audio (NO silence)? I called the Neo from my other (non-GSM) phone and listened to that other phone. The Neo was

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Lally Singh: On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Ilja O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wild speculation Having two memory card slots (one for OS, one easy accessible for usage with changeable memory cards) could be nicer than standard (current) architecture. You

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: Joerg Reisenweber wrote: your link: that's it Thanks for sharing your thoughts and giving this link If you do choose a 4-pin 3.5mm connector to be compatible with iPhone (or with another major vendor), please double-check that you use the same

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: Joerg Reisenweber wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA01_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29 you read this field during a call when actually transmitting audio (NO silence)? I called the Neo from my other (non-GSM) phone and

Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-05-31 Thread Mike
If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery life, any suggestions? And can I run openmoko on it to develop apps, or does openmoko linux need to be on the neo/freerunner? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-31 Thread Mike Montour
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: WAAH, they're NOT compatible to usual headphones which have tip1=L 2=R, (3)=4=GND. I can't guarantee the accuracy of that web page - it would be good to find someone with an iPhone who can make a direct measurement. In fact we already did and will follow / stay

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm no security expert but I'm pretty sure a lightweight 8 bit salt encryption (security guys?) can give any dektop pc software enough trouble to abort the attempt of trying to read a 256 meg worth of datacard, unless it

Re: Private data protection.

2008-05-31 Thread Ilja O.
Also, processors are cheap these days one guy [1] has build 96-core machine (for unknown price). Sorry. That's 24 cores. He's planning to build 96-core next. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Android on Freerunner ... Would it be possible ?

2008-05-31 Thread Piotr Duda
Mikko Rauhala pisze: [...] Being a VM platform that just happens to run Linux at the bottom, probably their jitter will require some work in addition to simple recompilation, but shouldn't be an unreasonable amount of work. I think that it could be more work that it seems at first glance.

Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 31 May 2008 18:39:00 -0400 Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery life, any suggestions? n800/n810. use mamona (which is openembedded based - same base os as openmoko). And can I run openmoko on it to develop apps, or

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:23:16 -0700 Mike Montour [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: unsure of that adaptor, BUT my motorola rokr e6 uses a 3.5mm headphone plug that also has mic support with the 4-pin headphone+mic set that it came with. this headphone also works on all normal stereo 3.5mm sockets i have

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

2008-05-31 Thread Clinton Ebadi
Matt Mets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It should be no problem. You just have to set up your routing tables correctly so that the desktop knows to route its traffic to the device, and the device knows to forward traffic to the cellular connection. It would be really handy to have an

Re: Android on Freerunner ... Would it be possible ?

2008-05-31 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008, Piotr Duda wrote: Mikko Rauhala pisze: [...] Being a VM platform that just happens to run Linux at the bottom, probably their jitter will require some work in addition to simple recompilation, but shouldn't be an unreasonable amount of work. I think that it could be more

Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-05-31 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
geek writes: Nokia N810 internet tablet...no openmoko...but mimo...good product with community support.. But no phone, if I understand correctly. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-05-31 Thread Robert Taylor
Mike, why not consider using the moko smartphone as a pda? PDA's aren't that much more powerful than the moko thus you won't really be running anything but what you run on the smartphone anyway, plus they usually have few connectivity routes, extremely short battery lifespans and generally

Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-05-31 Thread Ian Stephen
On May 31, 2008, Mike wrote: If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery life, any suggestions? I've got a Nokia N800. Much less expensive than the N810, but 810 has some things 800 doesn't. Battery life is from 1 day to 1 week or so depending on how I'm using it.