Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:59:35 +0200 Tom Cooksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Tuesday 03 June 2008 09:06:35 Carsten Haitzler wrote: the day nvidia comes with open drivers for this... we can begin to take an interest :) Sorry, just how open is the current glamo driver exactly? the driver is

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
thomasg ha scritto: Hi list, there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too. So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it behaves like and some of the next-generation

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Lorn Potter
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:26:25 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: And they use WINE to run android dev stuff on linux? My god - that beggars the imagination. I think he's talking about

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread Kalle Happonen
thomasg wrote: Hi list, there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too. So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. I

Re: y-cable in action

2008-06-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hey | | I figured I would share... I cut a mini-usb plug's insulation right | down to the housing and opened the housing to solder the 47k resistor | to the id pin. I cut up a regular usb extension cord to

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Tom Cooksey
On Wednesday 04 June 2008 21:56:56 Andy Green wrote: | IMO, OpenMoko's choice of using the the glamo was a big mistake (Connecting it to a | shared, 4-bit bus was probably the _biggest_ mistake). Huh what? It's a 16-bit memory bus, maybe you mean 2^4 ;-) When I actually use the thing I

Re: duplicate mail

2008-06-05 Thread Pawel Kowalak
On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Philippe Guillebert wrote: Hi list, Am I the only one to get some of the e-mails on this list twice ou more ? looks like the issue is back ... I get duplicates for every mail I receive (not only for openmoko list) and it started yesterday ;) Strange, but it's

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread Kyle Gordon
Kalle Happonen wrote: thomasg wrote: Hi list, there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too. So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it behaves like and some of the

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Wednesday 04 June 2008 21:56:56 Andy Green wrote: | | IMO, OpenMoko's choice of using the the glamo was a big mistake | (Connecting it to a | | shared, 4-bit bus was probably the _biggest_ mistake). | |

Re: OT: TinyURL

2008-06-05 Thread Joseph Reeves
I'm sorry, but this is a pretty ridiculous argument: Company A releases a largely redundant service that does little more than expose its users to a potential attack vector. In return, Company A releases a second service to try improve the security of its first. Why bother with either? My email

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: thomasg ha scritto: Hi list, there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too. So I decided to do a

Re: OT: ajax image galleries

2008-06-05 Thread Joseph Reeves
Yes, you're right, any site can redirect to anywhere else, but if that happens and I end up somewhere I don't want to be, I can blacklist both the original site and the target. I admit that this may be an exercise in futility, but at least it's possible. My personal mail client, and the one I use

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:57:12 +1000 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:26:25 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: And they use WINE to run android dev stuff

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:33:58 +0200 Tom Cooksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Wednesday 04 June 2008 21:56:56 Andy Green wrote: | IMO, OpenMoko's choice of using the the glamo was a big mistake (Connecting it to a | shared, 4-bit bus was probably the _biggest_ mistake). Huh what? It's

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Marc Bantle
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:59:35 +0200 Tom Cooksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Tuesday 03 June 2008 09:06:35 Carsten Haitzler wrote: the day nvidia comes with open drivers for this... we can begin to take an interest :) Sorry, just how

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread Rahul Joshi
Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i think and the FreeRunner should be faster. don't be so sure about that! :) Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w 1973

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Tom Cooksey
On Thursday 05 June 2008 11:29:10 Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:33:58 +0200 Tom Cooksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Wednesday 04 June 2008 21:56:56 Andy Green wrote: | IMO, OpenMoko's choice of using the the glamo was a big mistake (Connecting it to a | shared,

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Tom Cooksey
On Thursday 05 June 2008 10:29:36 Andy Green wrote: The Glamo offers normal async memory bus interface which we use, but it has a bunch of timing constraints. (There is a synchronous burst bus mode that we don't use because the CPU doesn't support it and adding a CPLD in there to translate

Swiss Group-Order

2008-06-05 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
Some time back (March or so) I had offered to organize a Freerunner group order for Switzerland. At the time, most people were expecting a late April/early May shipping date which would have fit my schedule pretty well. But as we all know, that date slipped; right now it looks like late June

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread matt_hsu
Brad Midgley wrote: Yorick Maybe I missed somehting, but to my knowlegde the AGPS is not yet working on the Freerunner. Is there any work being done to get AGPS working? Does anybody have an idea if it will ever be implemented or not? And if it will be implemented, when will it be

QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-05 Thread rakshat hooja
quick question - would you prefer a qvga lcd (save a bit of cost) since we'e going to need to software-drive all graphics - the fewer pixels you have to fill, the better for speed. i'm really tossing up if the speed of qvga is worth the loss of resolution. i'm just not sure. I have a

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thursday 05 June 2008 10:29:36 Andy Green wrote: | The Glamo offers normal async memory bus interface which we use, but it | has a bunch of timing constraints. (There is a synchronous burst bus | mode

GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Yorick Matthys
** Matt said: http://people.openmoko.org/matt_hsu/ImplementationAssistNowServerAndClient(GPS.G4-SW-05017-C).pdf Cheers, Matt *** I get the impression there is only informtion to have AGPS working with an internet connection. I was

GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Yorick Matthys
** Matt said: http://people.openmoko.org/matt_hsu/ImplementationAssistNowServerAndClient(GPS.G4-SW-05017-C).pdf Cheers, Matt *** Scratch my previous question, I realise now that it was a stupid one :)

Re: OT: ajax image galleries

2008-06-05 Thread Andy Powell
On Thursday 05 June 2008 09:31, Joseph Reeves wrote: Yes, you're right, any site can redirect to anywhere else, but if that happens and I end up somewhere I don't want to be, I can blacklist both the original site and the target. I admit that this may be an exercise in futility, but at least

GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

2008-06-05 Thread Ron K. Jeffries
Can the revised case for GTA03 *please* be designed to hold a stylus? The Palm Treo 700p and similar provide good examples re the stylus design and receptacle. -- Ron K. Jeffries http://www.retaggr.com/Card/RonKJeffries ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-05 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 05 June 2008 14:32:14 rakshat hooja wrote: The N95 is also good when you look at it on its own and one has no problems reading anything but when kept next to the Neo 1973 and Sharp 903 one can tell the display is not in the same league. (the Sharp is also visible in the sun though

Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Ken Young
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: quick question - would you prefer a qvga lcd (save a bit of cost) since we'e going to need to software-drive all graphics - the fewer pixels you have to fill, the better for speed. i'm really tossing up if the speed of qvga is worth the loss of

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-05 Thread Dylan Semler
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:32 AM, rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quick question - would you prefer a qvga lcd (save a bit of cost) since we'e going to need to software-drive all graphics - the fewer pixels you have to fill, the better for speed. i'm really tossing up if the speed of

Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread steve
The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis

RE: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-05 Thread steve
Ya, there are also ugly taxes on FM last time I looked. ( in EU) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joachim Steiger Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:31 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Joerg Reisenweber Subject: Re:

Hardware Block Diagram

2008-06-05 Thread Dale Schumacher
I've done several searches on the wiki and I can't seem to find any block diagram of the Freerunner hardware. Is there any such thing? It would sure help to clarify how all this stuff is connected. -- Forwarded message -- From: Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 05 Jun

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Dylan Semler
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:12 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. : ) -- Dylan Type faster. Use Dvorak:

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

2008-06-05 Thread Stroller
On 5 Jun 2008, at 15:38, Ron K. Jeffries wrote: Can the revised case for GTA03 *please* be designed to hold a stylus? Nooo! Stylii are EVIL! If I can't operate an app with my fingers, then there's no place for that app on my mobile phone! vi FTW! Stroller.

Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Mark
Robert Schuster theBohemian at gmx.net wrote on Tue Jun 3 18:10:18 CEST 2008 Hi. flexd schrieb: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) skrev: On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:12:30 -0400 Lally Singh lally.singh at gmail.com babbled: the day nvidia comes with open drivers for this... we can begin to take an

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread ian douglas
... and there was much rejoicing! steve wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. ___ Openmoko

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Tyrell Berry
I'm sorry if this question is completely ignorant, but I am always seeking understanding, and my previous understanding is inconsistant with the discussion here. I had originally believed 2 things. First, that AGPS was required by law in all US cell phones (Possibly elsewhere). And second, I

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Yay at last! So when does your psuedorandom date generator say they will be ready for shipping :) Also, in a previous email you mentioned pickups, I assume this means we would be able to go Fremont, CA, and actually fetch a FreeRunner, or is it only for larger orders? Cheers, Federico On Thu,

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Antoine Reid
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:12 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. Wonderful ! :) -- Antoine Reid

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 05.06.2008 um 17:12 schrieb steve: Ya, there are also ugly taxes on FM last time I looked. ( in EU) AFAIK 14 % import duties for broadcast receivers. Therefore some companies split production between basic device + receiver module (china) and final assembly in europe. Then, the 14% are

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Roland Häder
Hi, On Thursday, 5. June 2008, steve wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. Is this the mail I have waited for? :D -- (GNU) PGP ID:

Re: GSoC project status: Speech Recognition facility in open moko

2008-06-05 Thread Esben Stien
saurabh gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am saurabh gupta, working on speech recognition facility in open moko All fine and dandy, but are you also looking at sphinx? -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b -

Re: Cleared to start Mass production #2

2008-06-05 Thread Roland Häder
Hi, On Thursday, 5. June 2008, steve wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. Is this the mail I have been waiting for? :D Second try

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
Thursday 05 June 2008 steve wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. This is roughly the best news since hmm... i'm not entirely sure,

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Sebastian Billaudelle
Wow! I can't believe it;-) Thanks! Am Donnerstag, den 05.06.2008, 08:12 -0700 schrieb steve: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START.

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Kevin Dean
Excellent! Thanks for the update! On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:12 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START.

RE: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Staley, Daniel L
That's the best news I've heard in months! Thanks Steve! -Dan Staley From: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 11:12 AM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: Cleared to start Mass production The latest update I have

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread kazaam
Can someone here answer my question if at the moment v5 or v6 are produced? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

2008-06-05 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Thursday 05 June 2008 18:04:32 Stroller wrote: On 5 Jun 2008, at 15:38, Ron K. Jeffries wrote: Can the revised case for GTA03 *please* be designed to hold a stylus? Nooo! Stylii are EVIL! If I can't operate an app with my fingers, then there's no place for that app on my mobile

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Thursday 05 June 2008 18:05:47 Mark wrote: Robert Schuster theBohemian at gmx.net wrote on Tue Jun 3 18:10:18 CEST 2008 Hi. flexd schrieb: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) skrev: On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:12:30 -0400 Lally Singh lally.singh at gmail.com babbled: the day nvidia

Congratulations! Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
Way to go! Please send best regards to all who have made it possible so far :-)) Kind regards, Boudewijn --- steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread simarillion
Very good news, finally another milestone is done ;o) Thank you Steve Am Donnerstag 05 Juni 2008 17:12:42 schrieb steve: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been

Re: Hardware Block Diagram

2008-06-05 Thread Jakob
may be you're looking for something like this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:SimpleComponentDiagram.jpg well it's quite simplified, but i just found that on the wiki.. On 6/5/08, Dale Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've done several searches on the wiki and I can't seem to find any

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread ian douglas
Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: This is roughly the best news since hmm... i'm not entirely sure, since some really good news ;) (insert political joke about the rumors of Hillary Clinton stepping down from the American presidential race on Friday...) (and before that starts a flame war

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Ilja O.
I can see death looking carefully at my piggy bank. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: y-cable in action

2008-06-05 Thread Brad Midgley
Guys | I'm unable to test either of these with the verizon 3g/evdo usb | adapter... I don't have access to it this week :( I did find one of these at the office... so it does work, woohoo. At least with the AA supply. I'll test the AAA battery hub setup too when I can. I had to plug in the

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Kosa
I'm soo happy tp read that!! Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - steve escribi: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. -Original

London Groupsales

2008-06-05 Thread Johan Badenhorst
Hi there, I was just wandering if there is any plan for how to go about the group purchase for the London group (Half and half etc.) Speed is the most important thing for me, so if the logistics are going to mean that I don't get to play with my freerunner until mid August I might seriously

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Markus Bossert
Somehow I just remember how nice Tie Fighter looked on my computer back in 1994 - or 1996? With a full fledged VGA resolution. And gouraud shading. Mhmmm. If wine happens to run on the om? :-D Ken Young schrieb: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: quick question - would you prefer a

USA, East coast groupe order

2008-06-05 Thread Feydreva
It seems we will never have 10 people in VA, nor in Maryland, nor in New york. New york group is already 5. Why not all go in the NY group then ? I was thinking joining the NY group, and get someone to send me the phone in VA. Philippe ___ Openmoko

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Gianluigi
Alle 17:12, giovedì 5 giugno 2008, steve ha scritto:  The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. So a switch is waiting only to be pushed on for make we

Re: y-cable in action

2008-06-05 Thread Mike Hodson
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to add the usbserial module too... iirc the ppp modules were already installed. Just an FYI: make sure you have the AirPrime driver installed as well, as the standard USBSerial does not have large enough data buffers

Re: London Groupsales

2008-06-05 Thread Andy Selby
I was going to sign up with the London groupbuy, but nobody has asserted themselves to be the main purchaser. HantsLUG's groupbuy is a more attractive prospect because it is organized through an existing LUG and includes notable people such as Andy Smith and Alan Pope so there's less chance of

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Robert Taylor
You know, you are jokingly commenting about this ... ... but i'm fully setting mine up as a mame emulator. I think that while initially moko is positioned for the technically experienced, I believe we have a device here that can trully do something unique - become a portable general computing

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
kazaam wrote: Can someone here answer my question if at the moment v5 or v6 are produced? According to the past thread v5 vs v6, they should be led-fixed-v5 freerunners. Anyway... Well, finally the GREAT news I was waiting for! :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread steffen
The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production (that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. hmm...so where is GNU/Hurd? ... :D ___ Openmoko community

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
Ilja O. ha scritto: I can see death looking carefully at my piggy bank. Wonderful news and hey i'm worried about your piggy bank, please please don't kill it!!! :D Cya! Pietro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
So the sale will begin soon then? *Happy* Alexander Frøyseth steve skrev: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. -Original Message-

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread David Samblas Martinez
Thanks, thanks to you all coreteam, fanboys, critical ones, wanabees and geeks in general, and any other kind of entity thanks you all to make it posible. --- El jue, 5/6/08, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: De: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Cleared to start Mass production Para: 'List

Re: USA, East coast groupe order

2008-06-05 Thread Lally Singh
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Feydreva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems we will never have 10 people in VA, nor in Maryland, nor in New york. New york group is already 5. Why not all go in the NY group then ? I was thinking joining the NY group, and get someone to send me the phone in

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

2008-06-05 Thread Stroller
On 5 Jun 2008, at 18:46, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: On Thursday 05 June 2008 18:04:32 Stroller wrote: On 5 Jun 2008, at 15:38, Ron K. Jeffries wrote: Can the revised case for GTA03 *please* be designed to hold a stylus? Nooo! Stylii are EVIL! If I can't operate an app with my

Re: GSoC project status: Speech Recognition facility in open moko

2008-06-05 Thread Flyin_bbb8
So wouldn't it be a main problem if we change the main applications like the Dialer, the contacts etc? for example from GTK to Qtopia? other way round or anything else? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Lally Singh
A quick look on google says that GPS is required for all cell phones (well, E911 requires that 911 calls from cell phones also get the coordinates, and operators didn't want to change all their towers, so they started requiring their phones to have GPS). Sadly, most phones don't allow application

keyboard openmoko-qtopia-x11-image

2008-06-05 Thread Michael
hi all, i spent some times to search how can change the virtual keyboard (openmoko-qtopia-x11-image) from letters to numerical classification. but i dont find it :( is it possible to change? how i can change this? michael ___ Openmoko community

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

2008-06-05 Thread Lally Singh
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesn't mean that we will not write all our apps finger- compatible (we also hate stylii), I think what you're saying there is that 1st-party apps will be finger-compatible, but that ported applications are not sure to be

Re: keyboard openmoko-qtopia-x11-image

2008-06-05 Thread Richard Reichenbacher
Flick the screen up or down. On Jun 5, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Michael wrote: hi all, i spent some times to search how can change the virtual keyboard (openmoko-qtopia-x11-image) from letters to numerical classification. but i dont find it :( is it possible to change? how i can change this?

Re: London Groupsales

2008-06-05 Thread Ben Fleming-Williams
Andy Selby wrote: I was going to sign up with the London groupbuy, but nobody has asserted themselves to be the main purchaser. I'd be willing to do this, with suitable safeguards of course. However, I'm number 11 on the list of (currently) 14, so we'd have to work out who actually gets

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

2008-06-05 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Thursday 05 June 2008 23:14:41 Stroller wrote: On 5 Jun 2008, at 18:46, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: On Thursday 05 June 2008 18:04:32 Stroller wrote: On 5 Jun 2008, at 15:38, Ron K. Jeffries wrote: Can the revised case for GTA03 *please* be designed to hold a stylus? Nooo!

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 6/5/08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 05 June 2008 18:05:47 Mark wrote: Robert Schuster theBohemian at gmx.net wrote on Tue Jun 3 18:10:18 CEST 2008 Hi. flexd schrieb: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) skrev: On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:12:30 -0400

Re: USA, East coast groupe order

2008-06-05 Thread Feydreva
Hum.. I was just expecting one of the NY guy to send it by mail ... Even if the Week end in new york seems appealing :) On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Feydreva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems we will never have 10 people

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

2008-06-05 Thread Feydreva
a stylus is a another thing to loose... I do NOT want to be Dependant on a stylus... On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5 Jun 2008, at 18:46, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: On Thursday 05 June 2008 18:04:32 Stroller wrote: On 5 Jun 2008, at 15:38, Ron K.

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Lally Singh
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/5/08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Michael. The only reason I want a Freerunner, is because it is open. Open's great. But Open+Powerful would also be nice. I can't be the

USB connectors on FreeRunner Hostmode

2008-06-05 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
It's my understanding that the SC32442B in the FreeRunner has a host controller that can support 2 peripherals (I found a link to the manual today updated in the wiki). Is there just the 1 external connector or are there additional pins or connectors internal to the FreeRunner that can be easily

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Lally Singh: AFAIK, the AGPS allows you to upload additional information into the onboard correlator (the CPU that does the actual location calculations for GPS) to enhance the accuracy over what you get with simple satellite triangulation. It's about reducing

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Lally Singh
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Lally Singh: AFAIK, the AGPS allows you to upload additional information into the onboard correlator (the CPU that does the actual location calculations for GPS) to enhance the accuracy over

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Robert Taylor
Lally Singh wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/5/08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Michael. The only reason I want a Freerunner, is because it is open. Open's great. But Open+Powerful

Re: USA, East coast groupe order

2008-06-05 Thread Paul Buede
Count me in. Feydreva wrote: It seems we will never have 10 people in VA, nor in Maryland, nor in New york. New york group is already 5. Why not all go in the NY group then ? I was thinking joining the NY group, and get someone to send me the phone in VA. Philippe

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

2008-06-05 Thread W.Kenworthy
As I have short, fat fingers stylii are are a neccessay evil - I find fingers on most smart phones a pain. The only evilness my stylii have is a propensity to hide when they are really needed! - they are so so much faster than my fingers on a treo650 for instance :) And trying to use the dialler

Re: USB connectors on FreeRunner Hostmode

2008-06-05 Thread Joachim Steiger
Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: It's my understanding that the SC32442B in the FreeRunner has a host controller that can support 2 peripherals (I found a link to the manual today updated in the wiki). Is there just the 1 external connector or are there additional pins or connectors internal to

Boulder Colorado group sale

2008-06-05 Thread Vinc Duran
Hello, If you're in the Boulder, Colorado area consider joining our group. We're up to five buyers. We may join forces with Tuscon, AZ. Please contact me or add your name to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Boulder. I can make the purchase and do local delivery. Vinc

San Diego and LA group sales

2008-06-05 Thread Kosa
Hi guys, Well, as some of you know I'm from México, and I'm not being very succesfull about making a group to buy a 10 pack. I'm sure some of my friends will buy a Freerunner when I show them what we can do with it, but right now I almost alone here. I was wondering if we could join LA, San

Re: Hardware Block Diagram

2008-06-05 Thread BrendaWang
Here is the detail spec of GTA02 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware Dale Schumacher 提到: I've done several searches on the wiki and I can't seem to find any block diagram of the Freerunner hardware. Is there any such thing? It would sure help to clarify how all this

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Ken Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: quick question - would you prefer a qvga lcd (save a bit of cost) since we'e going to need to software-drive all graphics - the fewer pixels you have to fill, the better

resolution preferences??

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:50:43 +0200 Marc Bantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: quick question - would you prefer a qvga lcd (save a bit of cost) since we'e going to need to software-drive all graphics - the fewer pixels you have to fill, the better for speed. i'm really tossing up if the speed

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:56:00 +0200 Tom Cooksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Well... yeah, that's kindof the reason for the initial post! I must have misunderstood previous posts as I was convinced the glamo was itself attached to the CPU's SDIO interface. You can understand where I was coming

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:04:27 -0700 Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: at vga.. forget mame and games - they will be doing fullscreen updates. at vga... no chance (of any decent framerate). if you don't believe me... try it when you get one! :) at qvga though - maybe. also a lot of arcade

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i think and the FreeRunner should be faster. don't be so sure about that!

Re: keyboard openmoko-qtopia-x11-image

2008-06-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:51:53 +0200 Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: hi all, i spent some times to search how can change the virtual keyboard (openmoko-qtopia-x11-image) from letters to numerical classification. but i dont find it :( is it possible to change? how i can change this?

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Flyin_bbb8
actually i believe it does help in much better accuracy (unless if you're indoors) On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Lally Singh: AFAIK, the AGPS allows

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Flyin_bbb8
just wanted to add, Differential GPS is mainly for aircraft GPS systems to get better guidance on the ILS (Instrument Landing System). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

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