Re: The next shipment

2008-07-04 Thread Jayesh Salvi
OK, I see what you mean. This page (http://www.openmoko.com/product.html) tells about all the bands that the two versions support. - *GSM* - Tri band 850/1800/1900 MHz - Tri band 900/1800/1900 MHz Thanks, Jayesh On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Robert Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What's a Webshop re-open gifts?

2008-07-04 Thread Charles Pax
Thanks for the responses. It's clear to me now. -Charles On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:49 AM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve has mentioned several times that while supplies last, they would be sending laser stylii, 512MB microSD cards and a headset with the 10-pack orders. Once they

Re: 21h of battery live with FSO on GTA01

2008-07-04 Thread Marc Bantle
thomasg wrote: I still wonder what's so new about this? Standby had some bugs (especially when waking up after doing suspend without reboot multiple times), but I'm sure that even in 2007 my GTA01 did over 20h in standby (only). Surprising! The question for battery life has been raise

Re: 21h of battery live with FSO on GTA01

2008-07-04 Thread Marc Bantle
Tim Knapp wrote: Hi Marc, This is great news! Just to confirm the latest with the FSO image, when I looked at the youtube video demo'ing the interface last it was only capable of making/receiving calls - is this still the case? I believe so! I'm using milestone1 [1] Cheers, Marc

Re: 21h of battery live with FSO on GTA01

2008-07-04 Thread Marc Bantle
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Thanks for the experiment, Marc! Most of the honor is due our kernel wizards extraordinaire, of course. With the recently posted NO_IDLE_HZ support and (perhaps) some of the cpufreq patches, I'd expect even more. Pleased to read :-) I'll stay tuned! Marc

Re: Anyone attending Foo Camp?

2008-07-04 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Where? When? On 7/4/08, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm setting up an Openmoko hack-a-thon and would love to know if anyone from this list will be there. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GSM Carrier

2008-07-04 Thread arne anka
Or with a little more work you can make the entire thing transparent by setting up a VPN on one of those ports and just directing linux to route all traffic over the VPN. i'm sure, if it was that easy to circumvent the restrictions imposed on a 5$ plan, t-mobile would have dropped it

InvisibleShield screen protectors

2008-07-04 Thread Cédric Berger
Peter Naulls wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Yorick Matthys wrote: Are there other persons interested in buying one? I do :P We could ask them to make one for the Freerunner. Did you see this: http://tinyurl.com/6rmj5j :) Also:

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 04 July 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 Yes it is :) You only needs 1 Amp,

Re: GSM Carrier

2008-07-04 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Normally it is. If the provider allows you to access SSL sites, there's not much the can do. Google for proxytunnel. On 7/4/08, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or with a little more work you can make the entire thing transparent by setting up a VPN on one of those ports and just directing

Re: audio/video support

2008-07-04 Thread Tilman Baumann
Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 03 July 2008, Giorgio M. wrote: Does the Freerunner has an audio/video player integrated? which kind of audio and video files are supported? The answer probably depends on what you mean by 'integrated' ;-) There is a player in the GTK image that uses

Openexpo 2008 Zürich, Switzerland

2008-07-04 Thread Andreas Zuber
Dear Community There will be a Openmoko booth at the next Openexpo in Zürich. I'll be there, and this year i'll not walk away all the time like in Bern. And i also hope i get a smaller notebook for the Openexpo that fits on the table :-) Are there other people from the commuinity that may help

Re: audio/video support

2008-07-04 Thread Giorgio M.
Il giorno ven, 04/07/2008 alle 11.31 +0200, Tilman Baumann ha scritto: Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 03 July 2008, Giorgio M. wrote: Does the Freerunner has an audio/video player integrated? which kind of audio and video files are supported? The answer probably depends on what you

Re: The next shipment

2008-07-04 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/3 Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see on the moko store that teh 900GSM is sold out. The European / Indian resellers probably got all the 900GSMs for now. Of course they've probably all sold out anyway the first batch, pulster.de states the next shipment would be 25.7. -Timo

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-04 Thread Kevin Zuber
My Freerunner is just arrived, it was a very big surprise because I had no your freerunner is on the way message - it just was here - suddenly :) :) Thanks a lot pulster! BTW. My 8 GB SD card seems to work: /dev/mmcblk0p17.6G 32.0k 7.6G 0% /media/card :) But it won't take

Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

2008-07-04 Thread Cédric Berger
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Cool. Anyway I've already taken one at ZAGG (the free shipping Worldwide thing is so cool), and I got two discount codes too! :P I've always bought accessories (generally USB cables) before than the phone itself. This time the story has not changed :)

Re: not being able to use Skype is a big problem

2008-07-04 Thread Stroller
On 3 Jul 2008, at 18:45, Forrest Sheng Bao wrote: Well, I happen to have a bunch of friends which are not tech geeks, as well as my family members. They can follow instructions to use Skype without bothering me. This is the same open/closed problem that exists with many protocols. I

Re: not being able to use Skype is a big problem

2008-07-04 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have friends who use Skype there's not much you can do about it - evangelising SIP is about effective as telling them to use Linux instead of Windows - but outside of the free calls there are VERY many advantages to open

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-07-04 Thread Kai Römer
2008/6/27 Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] cut a lot! Our tests on GPS TTFF where quite comparable with some of the best devices available. However note there is some data GPS *has* to download from sat for virgin fix, which may take as long as 12min due to low bandwidth the sats offer

Re: GPS

2008-07-04 Thread Kai Römer
I can affirm this for 6 opemoko devices. i guess its an internal antenna issue. as soon as you connect a external antenna to it works like a charm. but fur me thats no solution. TTFF with external antenna (perfect condition): 40 to 60 seconds TTFF with internal antenna AGPS (perfect condition):

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-07-04 Thread Marcelo
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Kai Römer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/27 Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] cut a lot! So far i have tested 6 OpenMokos in Germany. With the internal antenna i never got a fix in less than 1min 20 secs if ever (2 hours) (Perfect conditions/ sirf3 need

USB UMTS Stick

2008-07-04 Thread Ingmar RIeger
Hello, is it possible to use a USB UMTS Stick like the ones from t-mobile (http://www.t-mobile.de/surfpakete/0,12442,17837-_,00.html) at the usbhost of the FreeRunner? Are the kernel modules available or compilable? An is there a firmware for such sticks or isn't one needed? I know that many

Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!

2008-07-04 Thread Michael T. Dean
On 07/03/2008 02:55 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote: I'm getting a Gateway Error 500 before I even get a chance to enter my credit card info--i.e. when it says, Forwarding you to Hi_Trust... Full text of the message is: Error from the Hi Trust gateway: TrustLink Server is closed. Or Merchant

Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!

2008-07-04 Thread Steven Kurylo
As I really wanted to get the phone, I didn't mess around with NAT settings to see exactly what was causing the issue, but I'm happy to do further testing. It worked fine from behind my NAT. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

2008-07-04 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Cédric Berger ha scritto: Peter Naulls wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Yorick Matthys wrote: Are there other persons interested in buying one? I do :P We could ask them to make one for the Freerunner. Did you see this: http://tinyurl.com/6rmj5j :) Also:

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-04 Thread Kevin Zuber
Any news here? I got the same error with the commands: AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN=MYPIN STR=`AT+CPIN=MYPIN' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' What could be the reason? Thanks alot. Kev Am Donnerstag, den 03.07.2008, 21:29 +0200 schrieb Arne

Re: GSM Carrier

2008-07-04 Thread Michael P. Cosby
Well that's not really easy. Remember, this is a mobile phone. So it's either completely closed or closed enough to make a project like that exceedingly difficult. So unless you happen to have a truly open phone (say, one running openmoko?) it's close enough to impossible that the

packing of my freerunner`s

2008-07-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
there is a short video from the packing-process of my freerunner`s... :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmlyR7u-zhI ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: packing of my freerunner`s

2008-07-04 Thread Charles Pax
I like how the packing slip was forgotten. -Charles On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is a short video from the packing-process of my freerunner`s... :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmlyR7u-zhI

Re: audio/video support

2008-07-04 Thread thomasg
I did some basic testing with video and mp3: Both works, mp3 without any problem, video the resolution/quality fits. The Freerunner plays [EMAIL PROTECTED] fps at a reasonable bitrate. No difference between internal flash and the microSD. The problem is, that this only works without scaling. If

Re: audio/video support

2008-07-04 Thread thomasg
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 6:06 PM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did some basic testing with video and mp3: Both works, mp3 without any problem, video the resolution/quality fits. The Freerunner plays [EMAIL PROTECTED] fps at a reasonable bitrate. No difference between internal flash and

Re: GSM Carrier

2008-07-04 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, arne anka wrote: Or with a little more work you can make the entire thing transparent by setting up a VPN on one of those ports and just directing linux to route all traffic over the VPN. i'm sure, if it was that easy to circumvent the restrictions imposed on a 5$

Re: USB UMTS Stick

2008-07-04 Thread thomasg
At least for desktop PCs it's no problem at all. I don't know if the usb host can provide enough power, but with a powered hub it should work. On the user side it's no difference to the internal modem of the neos. On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Ingmar RIeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-07-04 Thread Jonathan Spooner
Marcelo wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Kai Römer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/27 Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] cut a lot! So far i have tested 6 OpenMokos in Germany. With the internal antenna i never got a fix in less than 1min 20 secs if ever (2 hours)

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-07-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 04 July 2008, Jonathan Spooner wrote: Marcelo wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Kai Römer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/27 Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] cut a lot! So far i have tested 6 OpenMokos in Germany. With the internal antenna i never got a fix in

Re: GSM Carrier

2008-07-04 Thread ian douglas
arne anka wrote: i'm sure, if it was that easy to circumvent the restrictions imposed on a 5$ plan, t-mobile would have dropped it already. I'm guessing that their current lineup of phones are so locked up in terms of software ability, it's never been *tried* before on TMobile's network?

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-07-04 Thread Jay Vaughan
So far i have tested 6 OpenMokos in Germany. With the internal antenna i never got a fix in less than 1min 20 secs if ever (2 hours) (Perfect conditions/ sirf3 need 36 sec cold boot). Even when i use AGPS. As soon as i attach a external antenna it easily finds a lot more satellites and

Re: audio/video support

2008-07-04 Thread Philippe Guillebert
thomasg wrote: Oops, forgot to mention some details: Tested with mplayer (svn) out of OE. Hi, I guess you should have a look at the wonderful job done by balrog here : http://unadventure.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/accelerating-in-my-pocket/ He report QVGA @25fps for MPEG-4 video and managed to

SIM problems

2008-07-04 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Hi all, I just got my Freerunner today and I'm having trouble with my Vodafone prepaid SIM card. The SIM-card is almost 3 years old now and works fine in my old Benq EL-71. This might be a 3G Sim card, does anyone know how I can check if it is one? In the Freerunner, registering with the network

Re: Anyone attending Foo Camp?

2008-07-04 Thread Michael Shiloh
Sebastopol, at O'Reilly's headquarters. ian douglas wrote: Is it up north, Michael? Michael Shiloh wrote: I'm setting up an Openmoko hack-a-thon and would love to know if anyone from this list will be there. Michael ___ Openmoko community

Re: Need screenshots of ASU, FSO

2008-07-04 Thread Michael Shiloh
Perfect. Thanks. Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Freitag 04 Juli 2008 05:22:48 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Can someone point me at any screenshots of ASU and FSO? Only some very early ones @ http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=6 It has slightly changed since then. I'll cook some when

Re: Need screenshots of ASU, FSO

2008-07-04 Thread Michael Shiloh
Perfect. Thanks. Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Michael Shiloh ha scritto: Can someone point me at any screenshots of ASU and FSO? The ASU ones are at http://dos.jogger.pl/2008/06/29/asu-to-przyszlosc/ I dunno about FSO... ___ Openmoko

Re: Anyone attending Foo Camp?

2008-07-04 Thread Michael Shiloh
http://wiki.oreillynet.com/foocamp08/index.cgi It's by invitation only I'm afraid. I thought that some people on this list may have been invited. Michael Federico Lorenzi wrote: Where? When? On 7/4/08, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm setting up an Openmoko hack-a-thon and

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-04 Thread Michael Shiloh
Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 04 July 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941 Yes it is :) You only

Re: packing of my freerunner`s

2008-07-04 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: there is a short video from the packing-process of my freerunner`s... :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmlyR7u-zhI ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Anyone attending Foo Camp?

2008-07-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.oreillynet.com/foocamp08/index.cgi It's by invitation only I'm afraid. I thought that some people on this list may have been invited. Well if anyone is going, maybe he/she can recommend invitations for some

RE: Need screenshots of ASU, FSO

2008-07-04 Thread steve
we need this in a archive -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Need screenshots of ASU, FSO Perfect. Thanks. Michael 'Mickey'

RE: SIM problems

2008-07-04 Thread steve
Michael had some similar issues. They were cleared up when he asked for a replacement SIM. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tobias Diedrich Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:33 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: SIM problems Hi

Re: SIM problems

2008-07-04 Thread arne anka
for the record: my sim of simyo (no frills daughter company of e-plus, germany) made no problems whatsoever. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

freerunner shipment confirmation?

2008-07-04 Thread Jayesh Salvi
Hi, I bought freerunner few hours ago from the online shop. The transaction went through after at least 3 different redirections for payment processing. AFAIR, in step 1 they took my shipping information; in step 2 they directed me to some Taiwanese site for credit card information; and I believe

Re: freerunner shipment confirmation?

2008-07-04 Thread Vinc Duran
Hi Jayesh, I ordered a ten pack yesterday and received a confirmation email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] about 90 minutes later. On 7/4/08, Jayesh Salvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I bought freerunner few hours ago from the online shop. The transaction went through after at least 3 different

Picking up Freerunners in Fremont (was: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!)

2008-07-04 Thread Michael Shiloh
Brian C wrote: Harry wrote: Dear All, Sorry for delay long time!!! So far, only GSM850 Freerunner is available in stock, Debug board and spare also!!! http://www.openmoko.com/store.html Freerunner is running Thanks and BR For those who wish to pick up in Fremont, there doesn't

Re: freerunner shipment confirmation?

2008-07-04 Thread Jayesh Salvi
Thanks Vinc, I will wait little longer then. On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jayesh, I ordered a ten pack yesterday and received a confirmation email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] about 90 minutes later. On 7/4/08, Jayesh Salvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,

RE: What's a Webshop re-open gifts?

2008-07-04 Thread steve
Bingo! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ian douglas Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:50 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: What's a Webshop re-open gifts? Steve has mentioned several times that while supplies

RE: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-04 Thread steve
make a compilation of this stuff and wikify accordingly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:09 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Car charger to GTA02 I'd like to buy

RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-04 Thread steve
First step is to get a replacement SIM. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:04 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? Do we

RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-04 Thread steve
Arne, Getting a new SIM worked for us in the USA. When I talked to the ATT people about it they admitted This was a common annoyance. Olds SIMS not working in new phones, especially is the SIM was purchased In an phone under contract. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-04 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michael Shiloh wrote: Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 04 July 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev: I'd like to buy one. Is this [1] good to get the full-charging speed with the Freerunner? Thanks! [1] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360065251941

Re: freerunner shipment confirmation?

2008-07-04 Thread ian douglas
I know his question was to anyone ordering a single unit, but I got my confirmation Email within 5 minutes of placing my order for a 10-pack. Vinc Duran wrote: Hi Jayesh, I ordered a ten pack yesterday and received a confirmation email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] about 90 minutes later.

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-04 Thread Holger Freyther
On Thursday 03 July 2008 21:29:31 Arne Zachlod wrote: AT+CPIN= Try with quotes, AT+CPIN= and according to GSM 07.07 CME ERROR. The general error 3 is operation not allowed. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

import contacts?

2008-07-04 Thread Alexander Syring
Hi on my new Freerunner I want to add my contacts from my old mobile. I have all data in one file in vcard 3.0 format. How can I import all data? I tryed to copy the addressbook.db and addressbook.db.summery in home dir from my local evolution copy but it doesn't work. Greetings Alex

Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!

2008-07-04 Thread Joachim Steiger
Michael T. Dean wrote: On 07/03/2008 02:55 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote: I'm getting a Gateway Error 500 before I even get a chance to enter my credit card info--i.e. when it says, Forwarding you to Hi_Trust... Full text of the message is: Error from the Hi Trust gateway: TrustLink Server

Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!

2008-07-04 Thread Joachim Steiger
Michael T. Dean wrote: Which could /not/ happen before I've been given a chance to type in my credit card information--i.e. before they know which card/bank to ask for authorization. sorry i doubted you. just sounded like another thing we were seeing. BTW, this is 100% repeatable (even

Shipping to canada...

2008-07-04 Thread Matthias Stone
These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you for your replies) a) In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from openmoko.com webstore) b) How long would you expect it to take to ship to Alberta using the normal (aka cheapest)