Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-06 Thread Holger Freyther
On Saturday 05 July 2008 20:52:30 Kevin Zuber wrote: Hi, now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he

Re: on screen keyboard?

2008-07-06 Thread Jay Vaughan
Once upon a time it was possible on a Neo1973 to use a terminal which made Linux functionality available. For that you need not only the occasional slash or special text character, but Esc, Alt, and a set of Ctrl characters. I am still hoping for an old-fashioned qwerty keyboard for that

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-06 Thread Kevin Zuber
So, what should I do now? Change my provider? Buy a prepaid sim card?... Really, that can't be a solution. BTW.: I tested a sim card from a friend and it worked. It was an 9 YEAR old simcard (G2)! His provider is vodafone, but the sim card is so old, that there is an D2 Mannesmann logo on it

Re: New Wiki Page: Latest Images

2008-07-06 Thread Jay Vaughan
Thus, I tried to resolve my own confusion by creating this wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Latest_Images great, thanks for doing that! its definitely helpful. . . ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: on screen keyboard?

2008-07-06 Thread einstein
Hello, i installed the matchbox keyboard, like the wiki here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards the keyboard works quit well in the terminal or in the webbrowser. But i need the keyboard Icon on the top of the display, like the gps, battery or gsm icon. So i can start and stop

Re: HP calculator on neo1973 - was: More HW from Openmoko

2008-07-06 Thread Rodolphe Ortalo
Indeed, very nice work. Please, do try to offer a bitbake recipe or standalone easy to use package. Btw, are there any licensing issues with this emulator? Rodolphe Le samedi 05 juillet 2008 à 15:12 +0200, Sander van Grieken a écrit : On Saturday 05 July 2008 09:34:55 Ken Young wrote: I've

Re: WLAN not working

2008-07-06 Thread flexd
This is not working (adding -Dwext) i only get additional errors then: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Input/output error ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Input/output error ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-06 Thread David Roetzel
Hi, Here is the AT command stuff: - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN?

Re: WLAN not working

2008-07-06 Thread flexd
After updating and upgrading i now get exactly the same error as when i specified -Dwext, so something is wrong something still :/ anyone got any ideas? regards Kristoffer flexd skrev: This is not working (adding -Dwext) i only get additional errors then: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation

Re: WLAN not working

2008-07-06 Thread Markus Schlichting
Hi, over here wifi is up and runninng using wpa-psk. i get almost the same errors, only missing the lines with ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Input/output error - but its working. you could try running wpa_supplicant with the -dd option (and | less, maybe) and see what the output tells you. my

Re: WLAN not working

2008-07-06 Thread arne anka
did you ifconfig eth0 up before? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

HP calculator on neo1973 - was: More HW from Openmoko

2008-07-06 Thread Ken Young
Rodolphe Ortalo wrote: Btw, are there any licensing issues with this emulator? No. The emulator is open source, and the source code contains the statement: * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify * it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as

Broken battery protection circuit (was: Re: Battery driver problems?)

2008-07-06 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Tobias Diedrich wrote: Apparently it wasn't charged at all? (Voltage 3,324 Volts)o I think I'll try going back to the http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Freerunner/ image... That didn't help. Looking at the battery circuit schematics I now think that the battery protection circuit on

mokomakefile, eclipse

2008-07-06 Thread arne anka
hi, right now i am trying to set up a build environment w/ mokomakefile on debian/unstable following http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile firstly, debian/sid does not know cogito and g++-3.4 anymore. while cogito uis replaced with several *git* packages ( Package cogito is not

Getting Started with your Neo Freerunner/de

2008-07-06 Thread einstein
Hi, i try to translate the english guide http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner to german http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner/de I hope people how understand this two languages better then me will have a look on it and edit

Re: Group Sale Vancouver, BC

2008-07-06 Thread thomasg
Will they get the laser-keyboard, beamer and micro-nuclear-device included? *SCNR* On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 3:41 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks in Canada should take a look at buying from Koolu. They are on our website as a distributor. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: Broken battery protection circuit (was: Re: Battery driver problems?)

2008-07-06 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Tobias Diedrich wrote: That didn't help. Looking at the battery circuit schematics I now think that the battery protection circuit on this battery is probably broken. Discharging is still possible (now at 2.8V at the terminals), but it does not accept any charge (I tried current-limited

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): btw has ever written the howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor to a standard USB charger? Too many different usb-connectors out there, most of them molded and break when you open. So any howto very

Re: WLAN not working

2008-07-06 Thread Al Johnson
Exactly what are you using in your config files, and what commands are you running? Which image are you using? Are you using a configuration that's known to work with your network on another machine? You could also try using wpa_cli to tell you a bit more about what's going on. Using the

Re: FR Max downlink bandwidth

2008-07-06 Thread Mikko Rauhala
su, 2008-07-06 kello 16:01 +0200, Diego Fdez. Durán kirjoitti: What is the max downlink bandwidth of FreeRunner? 80k for the 4 downlink timeslots. In theory. Practice, you can get 50. It's just curiosity, I'm going to use FreeRunner to keep open a SSH session to my server's control server

FR Max downlink bandwidth

2008-07-06 Thread Diego Fdez.
Hi all, - According to specs[1] FreeRunner has a Class12/CS4 GPRS Modem. - According to wikipedia[2] GPRS Class10/CS4 gives 60Kbit/s downlink and 40Kbit/s uplink. What is the max downlink bandwidth of FreeRunner? It's just curiosity, I'm going to use FreeRunner to keep open a SSH session to

Re: FR Max downlink bandwidth

2008-07-06 Thread Diego Fdez.
El dom, 06-07-2008 a las 17:08 +0300, Mikko Rauhala escribió: su, 2008-07-06 kello 16:01 +0200, Diego Fdez. Durán kirjoitti: What is the max downlink bandwidth of FreeRunner? 80k for the 4 downlink timeslots. In theory. Practice, you can get 50. It's just curiosity, I'm going to use

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 06 July 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): btw has ever written the howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor to a standard USB charger? Too many different usb-connectors out there, most of them

Re: FR Max downlink bandwidth

2008-07-06 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Lets say 6kb a sec. In a minute thats 360kb, in an hour it is 24000kb and per day that is 288000kb. In a month that could be 10656000kb or 10gb. But ssh will never use that much :) On 7/6/08, Diego Fdez. Durán [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El dom, 06-07-2008 a las 17:08 +0300, Mikko Rauhala escribió:

Re: Dallas/Austin Group Purchase

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Josh Valdez: Just wondering if there is any more interest in the Dallas area for a group purchase. So far there are only three people. Also, we might be able to work something out with the Austin purchase as they almost have 20. To anyone in Austin, have you ordered

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-06 Thread Steven Kurylo
I can confirm this behaviour with both my 3G sim cards (one from e-plus and one from o2). The sim entered is definitely correct and works like a charm in my nokia phone. Which behavoir? cme error: 3 from the original post or the more recent cme error: 32?

Re: on screen keyboard?

2008-07-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 05 July 2008, Al Johnson wrote: so, is there a fullblown keyboard (hopefully with up/down and tab, so one can sroll in hitory and use completion)? opkg list | grep keyboard gives only matchbox-strokes which looks nice but is not really functional I found the same as you last

Re: Shipping to canada...

2008-07-06 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Dave O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No ten packs :/ Although I've heard of Andrew Greig before, the koolu website doesn't inspire confidence in me. I wouldn't trust them with my money. ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: on screen keyboard?

2008-07-06 Thread arne anka
It works. Where I used to get the multitap-pad I now get the matchbox keyboard. It's not as high so you get to see more of the app, but the keys are smaller so harder to hit without a stylus. It seems to offer a full keyboard, including Esc, Tab, Ctrl, Alt and cursor keys. could you offer

Re: Shipping to Canada...

2008-07-06 Thread Ian Darwin
Steven Kurylo wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Dave O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No ten packs :/ Although I've heard of Andrew Greig before, the koolu website doesn't inspire confidence in me. I wouldn't trust them with my money. Koolu is a real company with real products of

Re: applying screen protector

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb arne anka: hi, after a sight seeing tour cross town ups gave my om on thursday, yesterday they dropped off the parcel! now, i'd like to apply a screen protector -- how do i disassemble the freerunner so the protector fits the whole screen? i found

Re: applying screen protector

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 6. Juli 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: hole? one has a sticker on top -- what does that mean? nothing, I guess. just force screwdriver thru it btw: these are torx! Don't spoil with a phillips driver!!! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Dual Band GSM

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Mikko Rauhala: la, 2008-07-05 kello 14:01 +0200, Sean Lynch kirjoitti: Does anyone know if there are any plans for a Dual Band GSM openmoko phone? It'd be nice to have an 850/900 phone for use in the States or in Europe. You're confused. The phones are triband

Re: applying screen protector

2008-07-06 Thread arne anka
btw: these are torx! Don't spoil with a phillips driver!!! of course! and it's hard to find a sufficient small torx driver. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: applying screen protector

2008-07-06 Thread Francesco Cat
are them the same size of the ones needed for disassembling an Hard Drive? 2008/7/6 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: btw: these are torx! Don't spoil with a phillips driver!!! of course! and it's hard to find a sufficient small torx driver. ___

Re: GPS

2008-07-06 Thread Al Johnson
From what I've seen on the wiki the version of the Antares4 on the GTA02 doesn't have the memory needed to store almanac and ephemeris, last known position or time. This means that every start is a true cold start, unlike every other reasonably modern GPS we're comparing it to. It starts up

Re: on screen keyboard?

2008-07-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 06 July 2008, arne anka wrote: It works. Where I used to get the multitap-pad I now get the matchbox keyboard. It's not as high so you get to see more of the app, but the keys are smaller so harder to hit without a stylus. It seems to offer a full keyboard, including Esc, Tab,

dfu-util upload problems

2008-07-06 Thread Thomas B.
Hi, I have a little problem with dfu-util and my new Freerunner. I thought I'd make a backup of my Neo's filesystem before flashing new images onto it, so I tried to use dfu-util in upload mode to transfer the content of the Neo's flash to my desktop PC. Backing up the kernel partition works,

Re: mokomakefile, eclipse

2008-07-06 Thread thewtex
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: firstly, debian/sid does not know cogito and g++-3.4 anymore. while cogito cogito is abandoned g++-3.4 is not avaliable at all. is it needed for anything else but qemu? qemu need its. a good guide for getting gcc-3.4 is here

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-06 Thread David Roetzel
Hi, I can confirm this behaviour with both my 3G sim cards (one from e-plus and one from o2). The sim entered is definitely correct and works like a charm in my nokia phone. Which behavoir? cme error: 3 from the original post or the more recent cme error: 32? The error 32. I can

Re: Getting Started with your Neo Freerunner/de

2008-07-06 Thread Christian Weßel
Ich hab einen kurzen Blick drauf geworfen, sieht gut aus. Vielen Dank. christian Am Sonntag, den 06.07.2008, 14:51 +0200 schrieb einstein: Hi, i try to translate the english guide http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner to german

Re: Mapless GPS

2008-07-06 Thread Audrius Meskauskas
The GPS Sight team thinks that to have such mapless GPS navigator it is the amazing idea. This is something on that we would definitely plan to work. It would the be nice to have a built - in compass sensor as some watches do as the the instructions would depend on how the device is oriented.

Re: Software Status Update

2008-07-06 Thread Audrius Meskauskas
GTK is under LGPL and Qtopia is under GPL. This may mean nothing for the individual developer, but under GTK we may expect more commercial, proprietary applications appearing. One can buy commercial license for Qtopia as well but this costs money. It is up to you to decide if more proprietary

Re: on screen keyboard?

2008-07-06 Thread arne anka
did it too and built openmoko-keyboard. installation went flawlessly, the only trap was the need to reboot. i put the three ipk and a short instruction at http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15 ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Software Status Update

2008-07-06 Thread arne anka
Most modern Linux distributions would run both QT and GTK applications. Keeping this may not be just a purely technical decision. It may make a lot of sense to do the same on OpenMoko. fso addresses exactly this request. ___ Openmoko community

Re: on screen keyboard?

2008-07-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 06 July 2008, arne anka wrote: did it too and built openmoko-keyboard. installation went flawlessly, the only trap was the need to reboot. i put the three ipk and a short instruction at http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15 Nice job. Looks like I was wrong about the dependencies :-)

Re: HP calculator on neo1973 - was: More HW from Openmoko

2008-07-06 Thread Charles Pax
Anyone working on getting TIemu ported? http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tiemu/ -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: HP calculator on neo1973 - was: More HW from Openmoko

2008-07-06 Thread Francesco Cat
should be trivial since the version for IPaq (ARM CPU) already exists: http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tiemu/screenshots.html 2008/7/6 Charles Pax [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone working on getting TIemu ported? http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tiemu/ -Charles ___

Re: Software Status Update

2008-07-06 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hallo arne, * arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-07-08 19:43]: Most modern Linux distributions would run both QT and GTK applications. Keeping this may not be just a purely technical decision. It may make a lot of sense to do the same on OpenMoko. fso addresses exactly this request. Hmm?

Re: Software Status Update

2008-07-06 Thread arne anka
Keeping this may not be just a purely technical decision. It may make a lot of sense to do the same on OpenMoko. fso addresses exactly this request. Hmm? This is new for me, can you explain this? FSO is middleware only, and has nothing to do with QT or GTK! exactly. the 2007.2 and the

Re: SHR (was FSO Image gets it right)

2008-07-06 Thread Bobby Martin
From: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graeme Gregory wrote: Well I have seen the future and the future is FSO. For the first time I have been able to make and receive phone calls on a gta02 without hassle. GTK+ software could no do this, qtopia software cannot do this. Scaredycats

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-06 Thread Michael Shiloh
Holger is looking into the problem and trying to figure out why this is happening and how to fix it. Your ability to reproduce the problem is invaluable, as Holger can not observe this problem first-hand. If you can make yourself available for further experiments as Holger suggests that will

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-06 Thread Chaosspawn23
Michael Shiloh wrote: Holger is looking into the problem and trying to figure out why this is happening and how to fix it. Your ability to reproduce the problem is invaluable, as Holger can not observe this problem first-hand. If you can make yourself available for further experiments as

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-06 Thread Michael Shiloh
Al Johnson wrote: On Sunday 06 July 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): btw has ever written the howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor to a standard USB charger? Too many different usb-connectors out there,

Re: applying screen protector

2008-07-06 Thread Michael Shiloh
arne anka wrote: btw: these are torx! Don't spoil with a phillips driver!!! of course! and it's hard to find a sufficient small torx driver. Try www.wiha.com. They should have branches everywhere and are IMHO some of the best tools I've ever used. M

Assassin visiting the morgue...

2008-07-06 Thread Gilles Casse
Hello, Some recent projects names are a little bit 'haloweenistisc': assassin, morgue. Using them all along the year, on a dark device, argh... If this vein is pursued, please note that Alzheimer, Ebola, JackTheRipper are already reserved at sourceforge. What a chance :-) Gilles

Re: Assassin visiting the morgue...

2008-07-06 Thread Kevin Dean
How about Morbid and Macabre? On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Some recent projects names are a little bit 'haloweenistisc': assassin, morgue. Using them all along the year, on a dark device, argh... If this vein is pursued, please note that

Re: discount on invisibleshield protectors

2008-07-06 Thread Steven **
I don't have my Neo yet, but the case doesn't look like a material that would easily scratch. Am I mistaken? -Steven On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Jeffrey Malone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious how well these work. Does the cover have any real downsides? Eg: Difficult to

Re: discount on invisibleshield protectors

2008-07-06 Thread Stephen Shelton
On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 06:52:04PM -0500, Steven ** wrote: I don't have my Neo yet, but the case doesn't look like a material that would easily scratch. Am I mistaken? -Steven Based on video you can find on youtube, this stuff looks very promising. I'll let you know some time next week :)

Re: discount on invisibleshield protectors

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 7. Juli 2008 schrieb Steven **: I don't have my Neo yet, but the case doesn't look like a material that would easily scratch. Am I mistaken? I posted my findings some weeks ago. No, I don't consider to protect Neo's housing (if it's only for I get a new one easily [sorry]. Or maybe I'd

Re: Assassin visiting the morgue...

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
+1 need a dictionary to figure out what a particular app (diversity, assassin...) is meant for :-( Just ridiculous, no? Please!!! Can we have decent names?! Even amaroK managed somehow. ;-) /j Am Mo 7. Juli 2008 schrieb Kevin Dean: How about Morbid and Macabre? On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 6:41

Re: Assassin visiting the morgue...

2008-07-06 Thread ian douglas
Gilles Casse wrote: If this vein is pursued, please note that Alzheimer, Ebola, JackTheRipper are already reserved at sourceforge. My favorite comedian quote: I used to play in a Death Metal band... Most Death Metal bands have dark names like 'Obituary' ... 'Mortuary' ... 'Rigor Mortis.' We

questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-06 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Dear Community We want to simplify around key communication points. What do you think of the following: 1) Combine 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into one list -- called 'devel'. 2) Remove 'device-owners'. 3) Remove 'hardware'. Any concerns / comments? -Sean

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-06 Thread Diego Fdez.
El lun, 07-07-2008 a las 09:48 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz escribió: Dear Community We want to simplify around key communication points. What do you think of the following: 1) Combine 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into one list -- called 'devel'. No comments here. I'm only

ancient hardware?

2008-07-06 Thread Ajit Natarajan
Hello, I've seen a number of remarks on this list that the hardware in the FR is ancient and this is the price of openness and freedom. I did a quick search for some of the parts: The Samsung 2442 SoC seems to date back to 2005. I got this from the revision history in the user manual [1].

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-06 Thread Peter Harrison
I was a little confused about all the lists myself. I have started developing apps on the Openmoko, but not for the core - aka I doubt my apps would ever be distributed as part of a standard distro as they focus on robotics. I think it would be good to rationalise the number of lists. Right now I

Re: ancient hardware?

2008-07-06 Thread Peter Harrison
I wouldn't focus on the age of the hardware at all. The real question is whether this will be a hardware platform that others will be able to build innovation on top of. With phone companies making available only applications which earn them money you have not really seen the same kind of

RE: Los Angeles Group Purchase is Complete!

2008-07-06 Thread Russell Dwiggins
I'm one. What's the individual total? You can reach me below or directly at (562)761-1819 Thanks! Russell Dwiggins Assistive Technology Specialist Believe Ability, Inc. PO Box 325, Torrance, CA 90507 310-295-1024 x706 / 888-55-ABILITY phone/fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail is for the named