Re: How many batteries is included?

2008-07-08 Thread Dustin Knie
From what I could tell, there is 1 battery per phone regardless of single or 10-pack. The Spares pack gives you 2 additional batteries and a couple other things for another $50. Dustin On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the subject says How many

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Francesco Cat
for me it was accurate within the 4 km range, but i live in Milan and this could easily make a big difference :) 2008/7/8 W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 20:47 +0200, Francesco Cat wrote: Another thing that might help: If the FR is connected to any network one should also

Re: Not just a phone

2008-07-08 Thread Cédric Berger
Once we all have such data collected, google could probably offer to publish it... They already do so for their own car fleet : http://www.google.org/recharge/dashboard Of course, not so many people are ready to publish such private data !! About crazy ideas... the same thing could also be done

Re: How many batteries is included?

2008-07-08 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
2008/7/8 Dustin Knie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From what I could tell, there is 1 battery per phone regardless of single or 10-pack. The Spares pack gives you 2 additional batteries and a couple other things for another $50. Dustin On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-08 Thread Jay Vaughan
Yes! I've got mine! (From http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner) Jan. Great! When did you order it? ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-08 Thread Jan de Haan
Ordered 20080627 Status changed to sent 20080702 Arrived 20080707 On 7/7/08, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! I've got mine! (From http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner) Jan. Great! When did you order it? ; -- Jay Vaughan

Getting started in german

2008-07-08 Thread simarillion
Hi, we (until now 4 people) started at docs.google.com (where multiple people can edit the same document) a german (until now quick dirty) getting started document. This document is not meant to be a copy of http://quickstart.openmoko.org/ and does not want to compete with the official

Re: Laptop Replacement

2008-07-08 Thread Francesco Cat
Now what we do need is just a USB 2.0 port :/ Otherwise the entire thing will be unusable for very low datarates... But something like that would be awesome on the GTA04. They should start thinking about making stuff like this easier! 2008/7/8 Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jay Vaughan

Re: Not just a phone

2008-07-08 Thread Jay Vaughan
Let's see more crazy/interesting ideas! As soon as we've got voice-recognition onboard, we can use it to automate such things as adding credit to the cell account. I thought about this on the drive in to work today - wouldn't it be nice to be able to 'train' a phone to navigate through a

Re: How many batteries is included?

2008-07-08 Thread Andrew Bennett
I'm afraid I have no actual information, just additional, perhaps orthogonal, questions. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But for us that are buying a 10 pack, we alreddy have the bag and the earplugs. Is it possible to buy only the batteries That

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2008/7/7 Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: after reading shawn lin's testreport i believe we really have a problem with the 1.8V sim cards then. too bad the one i tested has no voltage printed on (some sims have, this sadly doesnt). will try to find out next time i get near that sim. My

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread AVee
On Tuesday 08 July 2008 03:25, W.Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 20:47 +0200, Francesco Cat wrote: Another thing that might help: If the FR is connected to any network one should also be able to use IP Locator services like http://whatismyipaddress.com/ to get another extimation of

1 freerunner in hamburg for sale

2008-07-08 Thread arne anka
hi, from the hamburg group sale (or rather purchase) i participated in there's still one freerunner available. so, if you are in the hamburg area and interested, its 294,- € -- if you're not in the hamburg area but still interested additional 8€ for shipment.

Re: How many batteries is included?

2008-07-08 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
You get 10 pouches og 10 headsets in an 10 pack Soo if I order an spare parts set I get an extra pouch and an extra headset, and I dont want that. And you get only one headset ;) 2008/7/8 Andrew Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm afraid I have no actual information, just additional, perhaps

nameserver was: Re: Signature check failed

2008-07-08 Thread arne anka
The miss of those was just because I (as always) forgot to setup resolv.conf (as Ian guessed correctly ;) ) check your /etc/network/interfaces and change in iface usb0 ... the line up echo nameserver XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX /etc/resolv.conf to match your dns.

Re: 1 freerunner in hamburg for sale

2008-07-08 Thread André Gaul
hi arne! do you already have it in your hands? if yes i would love to buy it! cheers, andré arne anka schrieb: hi, from the hamburg group sale (or rather purchase) i participated in there's still one freerunner available. so, if you are in the hamburg area and interested, its 294,- € --

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-08 Thread Erland Lewin
Hmm, I ordered the 28th and have not heard from them since the confirmation e-mail. /Erland 2008/7/8 Jan de Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ordered 20080627 Status changed to sent 20080702 Arrived 20080707 On 7/7/08, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! I've got mine! (From

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Al Johnson
Gets my location wrong by 100 miles or so. Other GeoIP services put me in other locations similar distances away. The BBC has had complaints from people reported as being in a different country because it blocks them from using the download service. Perhaps this only affects a minority, so it's

Re: 1 freerunner in hamburg for sale

2008-07-08 Thread arne anka
hi arne! do you already have it in your hands? if yes i would love to buy it! yes. the freeruners arrived friday afternoon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-08 Thread Erland Lewin
2008/7/8 Jan de Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ordered 20080627 Status changed to sent 20080702 Arrived 20080707 At what point did you pay Pulster? I placed the order, but have not received payment instructions. /Erland ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: 1 freerunner in hamburg for sale

2008-07-08 Thread André Gaul
that's wonderful! alright, so let's discuss the details (payment,...) in private mails. wouldn't be too interesting for the list... bye, andré arne anka schrieb: hi arne! do you already have it in your hands? if yes i would love to buy it! yes. the freeruners arrived friday afternoon.

Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]

2008-07-08 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please keep device-owners and community. shouldn't community members and device owners more or less be congruent, now the freerunner is in the world? Possibly. My observation is that any (ok, most) threads on the

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-08 Thread Jay Vaughan
At what point did you pay Pulster? I placed the order, but have not received payment instructions. Same with me .. so I ordered from handhelds instead .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Should setup sale-center in china mainland

2008-07-08 Thread 杨明
The factory is at SuZhou, but we need but the product from TaiPei and pay $88 to UPS. $88 is so expensive for us. If you can setup a sale-center or reseller in china mainland, more linux fans will become openmoko's fans. Yang Ming. ___ Openmoko

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi, On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Matt Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Community Would there be any support for prefixing the subject with the list names ? eg [openmoko-community] It's a trivial enough to implement with Mailman (the system being used). No, please don't do that. I

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Tilman Baumann
How accurate does this position information have to be? With my own telephone numer, i could at least find out in which country i am. Not so good for america, russia and brazil. But in smaller countries, you culd get a ±500km position. Al Johnson wrote: Gets my location wrong by 100 miles or

Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]

2008-07-08 Thread arne anka
My observation is that any (ok, most) threads on the community mailinglist tend to evolve into a lot of 1) wishes for things that aren't in the devices today 2) requests / demands that things should be done differently which is good for future, but not so ood for specific question about

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Discussion_Forums Am 08.07.2008 um 07:55 schrieb W.Kenworthy: I thought someone has already set up a forum - but few can be bothered using it so perhaps thats your answer. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: VMWare Freerunner Flash

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
Johan Badenhorst wrote: Hi guys, I was just wondering if anyone has flashed their Freerunners using VMWare Player on Windows and if that would even be possible? Alternatively would it be possible to use colinux or a similar tool? I've been developing for Maemo using VMWare

Re: Should setup sale-center in china mainland

2008-07-08 Thread xiangfu
need time. :-) ?? wrote: The factory is at SuZhou, but we need but the product from TaiPei and pay $88 to UPS. $88 is so expensive for us. If you can setup a sale-center or reseller in china mainland, more linux fans will become openmoko's fans. Yang Ming

RE: Should setup sale-center in china mainland

2008-07-08 Thread Lin Mac
It takes almost $80 even in Taiwan. There is no distributor in Taiwan too. Could we just go to OpenMoko @ Taipei and get one? Best Regards, Mac Lin Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:59:35 +0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Should setup sale-center in china mainland

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread flexd
What i did with my phone (using the script stuff Al posted), i took my position from google maps, simply by finding my home, centering it, and making a link. In the link you can see the coordinates and use the spreadsheet attached to his mail to calculate the right x,y,z. This works very

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
Hi Billk- Does the freerunner have software that can show how the satellites position overhead? - satellite location will certainly cause a lot of variability - I would think the only worthwhile measurements on how the FR performs will be comparative (with another, known performer placed

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Jay Vaughan
In the link you can see the coordinates and use the spreadsheet attached to his mail to calculate the right x,y,z. This works very well, i've been able to get a fix easy now. Could you do a step-by-step guide for how to do this, and put it on the web somewhere? I think it would be easy

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread flexd
Basically, follow this: http://www.mmenterprises.co.uk/blog/2007/07/how-to-find-gps-coodinates-from-google.htm That gives you the numbers you need to put into his spreadsheet :) Jay Vaughan skrev: In the link you can see the coordinates and use the spreadsheet attached to his mail to

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread flexd
Im actually having some trouble installing that, it says: / [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin# opkg install http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/util/gps/openmoko-agpsui_0.1+svnr7-r0_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/util/gps/openmoko-agpsui_0.1+svnr7-r0_armv4t.ipk

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
Hi flexed- Could you scp this ipk into GTA02, and try install from GTA02? Tony Tu flexd ??: Im actually having some trouble installing that, it says: / [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin# opkg install http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/util/gps/openmoko-agpsui_0.1+svnr7-r0_armv4t.ipk

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 13:36 +0200, flexd wrote: Im actually having some trouble installing that, it says: / [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin# opkg install http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/util/gps/openmoko-agpsui_0.1+svnr7-r0_armv4t.ipk Downloading

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread AVee
On Tuesday 08 July 2008 13:09, flexd wrote: What i did with my phone (using the script stuff Al posted), i took my position from google maps, simply by finding my home, centering it, and making a link. In the link you can see the coordinates and use the spreadsheet attached to his mail to

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Matt Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Community Would there be any support for prefixing the subject with the list names ? eg [openmoko-community] It's a trivial enough to implement with Mailman (the system being

Re: Software Status Update

2008-07-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:38:21 +0200 Audrius Meskauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: GTK is under LGPL and Qtopia is under GPL. This may mean nothing for the individual developer, but under GTK we may expect more commercial, proprietary applications appearing. One can buy commercial license for

Re: audio/video support

2008-07-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:06:19 +0200 thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I did some basic testing with video and mp3: Both works, mp3 without any problem, video the resolution/quality fits. The Freerunner plays [EMAIL PROTECTED] fps at a reasonable bitrate. No difference between internal flash

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
Not really my idea of quite accurate! It's just initialisation data. More accurate will probably be better, but 20km of doesn't sound that bad. It sure is *way* better than not even knowing which hemisphere you're in. Actually it think just knowing which country your in will

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM, matt joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you elaborate please (not for the sake of debate, I'm just curious No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. The last time it lasted for more than a month, wasting lots of time for anybody reading this list, and

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread arne anka
No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. so you were speaking about the discussions that may arise from the request not some drawbacks of the markers as such? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM, matt joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you elaborate please (not for the sake of debate, I'm just curious No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. The last time it lasted for more than a month, wasting lots of

OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi, yesterday I read an article in the German computer magazine c't that gives an overview over the projects dealing with Linux-based smartphones. As you might know besides OpenMoko there is the LiMo Foundation (lots of companies), Open Handset Alliance (Google, Android) and the LiPs Forum. As it

band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Shaz
Have openMoko been made for bands available in Pakistan? Are they ready for shipment? I am curious because openmoko site has shipment available for Pakistan but are they considering the band regulations of pakistan? -- Shaz ___ Openmoko community

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Francesco Cat
in Pakistan the 900/1800 freq are used so they should be fine, if you get the 900/1800/1900 vers. It is the same vers shipped in Europe. It is important because if you do get the 850/1800/1900 version some operators will not work at all. 2008/7/8 Shaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have openMoko been made

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-08 Thread Peter Thorin
I got mine from handhelds today, very happy! -- Peter Thorin On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At what point did you pay Pulster? I placed the order, but have not received payment instructions. Same with me .. so I ordered from handhelds instead .. ;

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread arne anka
Who has a German SIM working in their FR? me. as posted before: simyo (e-plus no frills), 2.5G, ie not umts capable, only gprs. says 16K 3V at its back. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Masoom Alam
Till when it will be available in the 900/... Bank.. Secondly, the OpenMOKO website suggests that UPS will deliver it to Pakistan with an additional cost of 101.xx$. Can any body provide me some clue that if this possible at all, i mean we will order it, but whether we will get it or not. Thanks,

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Michael Kluge
My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Yorick Moko
but whether we will get it or not. why wouldn't you get it if you order it and pay for it? ps: there is an indian reseller, maybe that way will be cheaper for you? On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Masoom Alam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Till when it will be available in the 900/... Bank..

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Francesco Cat
yes! tell us if they are UMTS capable or not! :) 2008/7/8 Michael Kluge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: We want to simplify around key communication points. What do you think of the following: 1) Combine 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into one list -- called 'devel'. 2) Remove 'device-owners'. 3) Remove 'hardware'. It seems like generally

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread matt joyce
arne anka wrote: No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. so you were speaking about the discussions that may arise from the request not some drawbacks of the markers as such? ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-08 Thread Michael
On 04/07/08 20:38:02, Michael Shiloh wrote: Depends what you're going to do with it. If you use a Y cable to charge the phone while powering another USB device you may need 1.5A. Recognize also that you'll have to either add the ID resistor yourself, or manually enable 1A charging

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-07-08 Thread Sander van Grieken
Hmm, I ordered the 28th and have not heard from them since the confirmation e-mail. I ordered the 27th and only received confirmation mail so far. Guess I was just too late for the first batch.. grtz, Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread atweb
I´ve an o2-SIM from the time of Viag-Interkom in my Freerunner with the Code 1001710251761MC on the Chip-Side. I can perfectly phone an do SMS with it. cu Markus Jeffrey Ratcliffe schrieb: 2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst

Sims

2008-07-08 Thread Scott Derrick
I'm expecting my FreeRunner soon and was wondering about the Sim card issue the 1973 version experienced. Was it fixed? Can I expect just about any ATT sim card to work now? I was looking on ebay for sim cards and couldn't find any that were in the good list as published here.

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread cedric cellier
They are not phones, but the Nokia internet tablets are not that far for freedom and deserve to be mentionned IMHO. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Scott Derrick
I was hoping the external ant port on the FreeRunner was for the cell modem and was disappointed to find out it was for the GPS. Any diagrams available on how to add an antenna port myself? What contacts to solder to, etc... Will I need a switch to enable an external antenna or will it

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Masoom Alam
Please specify that indian seller. I think it is IDA systems right? does that seller ship it to Pakistan? any information On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but whether we will get it or not. why wouldn't you get it if you order it and pay for it? ps:

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Michael Kluge
The SIMYO is. Not sure about the other. Michael Am Dienstag, 8. Juli 2008 15:22:49 schrieb Francesco Cat: yes! tell us if they are UMTS capable or not! :) 2008/7/8 Michael Kluge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Dienstag 08 Juli 2008 15:49:08 schrieb Scott Derrick: I was hoping the external ant port on the FreeRunner was for the cell modem and was disappointed to find out it was for the GPS. Look again... there are two ports for external antennas. :M:

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Yorick Moko
yes, that is the one I don't know if they ship to Pakistan, you better ask them: http://www.idasystems.net/contact_us On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Masoom Alam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please specify that indian seller. I think it is IDA systems right? does that seller ship it to

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Jul 2008, at 12:57, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM, matt joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you elaborate please (not for the sake of debate, I'm just curious No, I'm not going to restart that discussion. The last time it lasted for more than a month,

Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]

2008-07-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Jul 2008, at 10:56, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please keep device-owners and community. shouldn't community members and device owners more or less be congruent, now the freerunner is in the world? Possibly. My

USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/7/5 Diego Fdez. Durán [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all! At the moment my FR is travelling to me, so I'm looking for a good portable bluetooth keyboard. What do you think about BT KB? what about Nokia SU-8W? on a similar note, i'm looking for an ultra-small USB keyboard (there are various

Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Francesco Cat
are you sure you are looking for something like that? The name is thumbpad keyboard and I think it is unusable if you are thinking about writing using all the fingers of your hands. Or what about a flexible one? like http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0194 or this: it seems quite

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Charles Pax
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look again... there are two ports for external antennas. Is that what the hole in the side of the Freerunner is in this image? http://www.elitezoom.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/openmoko-neo1973-black1.jpg This

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Paul Wouters
At LinuxTag 2008 I learned that Motorola is giving you the kernel sources but are using signed kernels and the bootloader to prevent you from putting your own kernel on the device. I expect that phones provided by LIMO and OHA will have the same 'feature'. Unfortunately its the linux

Re: Sims

2008-07-08 Thread ian douglas
I use a 3G SIM card from ATT and it works just fine. Scott Derrick wrote: I'm expecting my FreeRunner soon and was wondering about the Sim card issue the 1973 version experienced. Was it fixed? Can I expect just about any ATT sim card to work now? I was looking on ebay for sim cards and

Re: Not just a phone

2008-07-08 Thread Michael Shiloh
Good, good. Keep those ideas coming, and I encourage you all to think way outside the traditional box of cellphone applications. Michael Jay Vaughan wrote: Let's see more crazy/interesting ideas! As soon as we've got voice-recognition onboard, we can use it to automate such things as

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread arne anka
Is that what the hole in the side of the Freerunner is in this image? http://www.elitezoom.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/openmoko-neo1973-black1.jpg This is the only image I could find with that side exposed. that would be the headset jack (at least it is in the fr) -- unless it doubles as

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Tuesday 08 July 2008, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Look again... there are two ports for external antennas. As far as I can see, there is just one antenna jack on the Freerunner on the outside. The port for the GSM antenna is under the cover according to [1]: Accessible GSM/GPRS antenna

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread martin-o23533
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 03:17:17PM +0200, Michael Kluge wrote: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Russell Sears
Paul Wouters wrote: Now imagine the OS being linux with no restrictions, fully GPLv3 compatible. Now imagine one propretary binary running on that GPLv3 platform, which sends a signature based on the OS/kernel contents to the baseband via serial. If it is not a known good signature, the

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Tilman Baumann
Russell Sears wrote: Paul Wouters wrote: This is exactly what Motorola does. It is the 60 seconds of working phone with openezx. GPLv3 doesn't say anything about how the protection is implemented, though it does say continued functioning, so I think they've covered this loophole. :)

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Shaz
I had a talk with them earlier but they do not ship to Pakistan. If I ask a friend like in Germany then will he be able to ship it to me considering shipment policy in Germany? Any better ideas? On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, that is the one I don't

Re: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread Shaz
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in Pakistan the 900/1800 freq are used so they should be fine, if you get the 900/1800/1900 vers. It is the same vers shipped in Europe. It is important because if you do get the 850/1800/1900 version some operators will

Re: SIM problems

2008-07-08 Thread Tobias Diedrich
steve wrote: Michael had some similar issues. They were cleared up when he asked for a replacement SIM. For some totally unknown reason, my Vodafone SIM suddenly started working just fine yesterday. -- Tobias PGP: http://9ac7e0bc.uguu.de

RE: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Crane, Matthew
I want to get a frogpad to go with the phone. I've not tried it but they seem pretty cool. http://www.frogpad.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Paulson Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:36 AM To: List for Openmoko community

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Jay Vaughan
I'm glad I purchased an openmoko though. I'm tired of fighting against mobile phone vendors. yeah, its a lot easier to fight against all the open source guys shivvying into position to make *the* bomb distro for the freerunner, thus destroying all hope of 3rd-party developer markets being

Re: Battery loading ...

2008-07-08 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: 1) The battery seems to be charging: But why is the value POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW negative? Positive = Discharging current Negative = Charging current Simple as that. :) -- Tobias PGP: http://9ac7e0bc.uguu.de

RE: band issue

2008-07-08 Thread McCreery, Lee CTR DISA
Shaz, When ordering from Openmoko.com there will be radio buttons to select the different models( 850 or 900), but at this time the Openmoko.com store does not have the 900MHz units available. At least they didn't have the 900MHz as of last Thursday. Lee _ From: [EMAIL

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Michael Kluge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 03:17:17PM +0200, Michael Kluge wrote: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Dustin Knie
FWIW I prefer the mailing list subject lines as they are. [openmoko-users] preppended to the subject line just adds clutter and reduces the useful description of the subject that can be used in that line. Only so much fits in the list of messages in the mail- client's window and

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Kevin Dean
Not everyone uses Gmail, but that said, most modern mail clients offer the same kind of sorting. Personally, I like modularlity. I'm subscribed to every Openmoko list except the kernel devel one, but I can see very compelling reasons why someone might be interested in say, not being on community

Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/7/8 Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED]: are you sure you are looking for something like that? The name is thumbpad keyboard and I think it is unusable if you are thinking about writing using all the fingers of your hands. i'm not sure to be honest - i want to look at a few options. i think a

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 08 July 2008, Jay Vaughan wrote: In the link you can see the coordinates and use the spreadsheet attached to his mail to calculate the right x,y,z. This works very well, i've been able to get a fix easy now. Could you do a step-by-step guide for how to do this, and put it on

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Chris
Al Johnson wrote: It would be very easy to take the formulae from the spreadsheet in javascript. Alternatively you can use it directly in the script if you glue in the calcs in perl to calculate $posx, $posy and $posz as below. Variable $posacc is the estimated accuracy of the supplied

Re: USB keyboard

2008-07-08 Thread Esben Stien
Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i'm looking for an ultra-small USB keyboard http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3848cl=us,en -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i .

Re: USB keyboard (was Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard)

2008-07-08 Thread Erland Lewin
I googled and found this: http://pc.pcconnection.com/1/1/44869-asus-computer-international-r2h-slim-usb-2-0-foldable-keyboard-04gngv1kus00.html A foldable, (but not flexible) keyboard. I don't know anything more about it, but I like the idea better than the rollable membrane keyboards. Here's

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
The GSM-antenna connector is near hole and near one of the two screws, inside of Neo. You see when opening back-lid. HTH jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Hugo Mills
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 09:20:17PM +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: The GSM-antenna connector is near hole and near one of the two screws, inside of Neo. You see when opening back-lid. Is there a standardised connection for such things? Can I buy anything describing itself as a GPS antenna,

When will the sale of GSM 900 start?

2008-07-08 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
I am refreshing the mokostore site every 5 min. Manually When are the sale going to start??? Are almost sick to get one!! Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 8. Juli 2008 schrieb Jeffrey Ratcliffe: Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? I tried o2 (9Y old): ok Vodaphone (unknown but probably

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