Re: is FDOM unstable

2008-11-10 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Sunday 09 November 2008 22:29:31 Atilla Filiz wrote: Hello I was trying my FR as my primary phone for one week. It went good with QTextended 4.4.1. Today, I decided to try FDOM. It is really nice that it comes withh the apss and fixes I would manually install anyway but it occasionally

Re: OM Testing: task-openmoko-qtopia-x11 has unsatisfied gstreamer depencies

2008-11-10 Thread John Lee
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 03:41:51PM +0800, Ray Chao wrote: Hi Martin, According to Julian, we were taking out a package due to license issue since last Friday, that should be reason for this issue. This might be the cause, but the issue itself still need to be fixed. Please create a ticket

Re: [Om2008.9] 'qpe' causes heavy load on boot

2008-11-10 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Monday 10 November 2008 10:25:10 Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, Since some time I encounter that on boot the 'qpe' proc causes very heavy load short after boot; I digged into this and now I know what's going on but don't know why: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Known_Issues Look

Virtual music instrument using microphone and touchscreen

2008-11-10 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Hi Folks, I know being just a follower could be bad, but I liked these iPhone videos so I wanted to share : http://www.korben.info/un-ocarina-dans-votre-iphone.html A fun idea don't you think ? Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: [2007.2] - Where?

2008-11-10 Thread PieterC
Thanks, I flashed 2007 celtone (what's celtone anyway?) version. It boots pretty fast but there are many thinks not implemented yet. I'm going to flash FDOM 20080927 now, hoping wifi will work keeping http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt in mind. I'm connecting to a mac-address filtered network.

Re: distro woes

2008-11-10 Thread Yorick Moko
and what's _not_ happening On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le lundi 10 novembre 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : distro woes Yes, the Qt Extended wiki page need a good rewrite from someone who knows what's happening. Minh

Re: Re: GPG for SMS?

2008-11-10 Thread Mikko Rauhala
On ma, 2008-11-10 at 11:42 +0100, Pander wrote: One might consider alternative (weaker) encryption of SMS which do not result increased number of characters compared to the original text. Does not follow that it would be weak. You just need to do key setup (with gpg perhaps) beforehand, as rhn

Re: TangoGPS svn/git ?

2008-11-10 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:31:20 +1300 Glen Ogilvie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A friend and myself are planning on contribute to TangoGPS. Looking for the git / svn repository we can pull the latest source from? Does anyone know if a repository for tangogps exists? The latest on the

Re: is FDOM unstable

2008-11-10 Thread Margo Koppelmann
I had the same problems with FDOM 20081023. I flashed back to FDOM 20080927. FDOM 20080927 is much more stable and I have been using it as my everyday phone for a few weeks now. On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello I was trying my FR as my primary phone

Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

2008-11-10 Thread kimaidou
Personaly I haven't encountered stability issues with my 44.2. The only thing is the bluetooth does not work (not a pbm for me). The audio settings are pretty good (no echo, etc.). It suspend resume as needed. What I dislike (for the moment) : no gps application (only a demo writing the current

Re: [2007.2] - Where?

2008-11-10 Thread Margo Koppelmann
I got wifi working in FDOM using instructions in http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt And I'm using FDOM 20080927, not 20081023. The 20080927 version is much more stable. 2007.2 images can be downloaded here - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#Om_2007.2_images_.28GTK.29 On Mon, Nov 10,

Re: [2007.2] - Where?

2008-11-10 Thread PieterC
I don't get it, it doesn't work: What I did yet: manually: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0 essid belkin54g [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# udhcpc udhcpc (v1.9.1) started Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending discover... run-parts:

Re: TangoGPS svn/git ?

2008-11-10 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, November 10, 2008 a las 03:02:50PM +0100, Marcus Bauer escribió: On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:31:20 +1300 Glen Ogilvie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A friend and myself are planning on contribute to TangoGPS. Looking for the git / svn repository we can pull the latest source

Re: idea: accelerometer daemon

2008-11-10 Thread Atilla Filiz
Then maybe gestures daemon can be extended to be more robust. The biggest problem with the acc.meters is that they go unresponsive and block read attempts. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Monday 10 November 2008 14:14:45 schrieb Atilla Filiz:

Re: TangoGPS svn/git ?

2008-11-10 Thread Max Giesbert
have you had a look at this: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/gtkaddpoi ? just read about it... haven't tested it or anything... Matthias Apitz schrieb: El día Monday, November 10, 2008 a las 03:02:50PM +0100, Marcus Bauer escribió: On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:31:20 +1300 Glen Ogilvie

Re: idea: accelerometer daemon

2008-11-10 Thread Paul V. Borza
Mickey, I've talked with Daniel recently and told him that I was working on recognizing contexts. For that I'm using self-organizing maps (Nokia is using these for gesture recognition) and I'll try to recognize walking, running, walking up/down stairs etc. Just wanted you to know that I'm

Re: TangoGPS svn/git ?

2008-11-10 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you had a look at this: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/gtkaddpoi ? just read about it... haven't tested it or anything... I tested it and at least the address query works great! I didn't test if it actually

Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-10 Thread grslmpf
I am also affected by the WSOD and read many about it. So I try several things and figured out that WSOD is gone if I keep the freerunner over 30°C AND suspend it by the power button. If I dont switch of dimming and automatic suspend - everytime the WSOD will appear. I can imagine this happens

Re: [Om2008.9] 'qpe' causes heavy load on boot

2008-11-10 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, November 10, 2008 a las 10:35:01AM +0100, David Garabana Barro escribió: On Monday 10 November 2008 10:25:10 Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, Since some time I encounter that on boot the 'qpe' proc causes very heavy load short after boot; I digged into this and now I know

[2007.2] - Where?

2008-11-10 Thread Pieter Colpaert
Hi, I installed FDOM but I'm not quite satisfied: ~#ifup eth0 udhcpc (v1.9.1) started Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending discover... run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/99avahi-autoipd exited with return code 1 No lease, failing (I haven't been able to get an IP-address from my AP) and it's

Re: USB keyboard udev rule

2008-11-10 Thread Alastair Johnson
Pander wrote: Does anyone have a udev rule for USB keyboard that does the following. When no external USB devices are connected and a keyboard is plugged in, USB can switch to host mode and switch back when USB keyboard is unplugged. As far as I'm concerned, this would be a very welcome

idea: accelerometer daemon

2008-11-10 Thread Atilla Filiz
I don't know if there is any work towards this anyway, i think having an acc daemon like gpsd would be nice. The daemon can check for blocking in acc.meters and reset the hardware if necessary, and serve multiple clients(which is not very likely actually). This way maybe we can have more quality

[Om2008.9] 'qpe' causes heavy load on boot

2008-11-10 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, Since some time I encounter that on boot the 'qpe' proc causes very heavy load short after boot; I digged into this and now I know what's going on but don't know why: if one monitors the 'qpe' is turns out that the proc is talking to the modem of the SIM card to get information about the

[FSO] Stability and other problems

2008-11-10 Thread Christoph Simolka
Hi, I received my Freerunner about 3 Months ago. Because of the software status I just played around with different distros but didn't use it as a phone. This weekend my old phone went out of battery and didn't start anymore (yes.. this also happens to non-freerunners ;) ) So i decided to cange

Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

2008-11-10 Thread Christoph Simolka
I red about stability problems with qtextended as well.. is this solved already? kimaidou wrote: Hi For using it as a phone, I recommed you to use the last qtextended distribution. 2008/11/10 Christoph Simolka [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I received my

Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

2008-11-10 Thread Alastair Johnson
Lothar Behrens wrote: Thanks, I had some more look about other cards about 8GB, but if there are more users having success, I will buy this card. I'm successfully multi-booting with a Sandisk 8GB card. I don't remember the model number and it's not printed on the card. Uboot says this

Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

2008-11-10 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:20:40 +0100 kimaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personaly I haven't encountered stability issues with my 44.2. The only thing is the bluetooth does not work (not a pbm for me). The audio settings are pretty good (no echo, etc.). It suspend resume as needed. no echo

Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

2008-11-10 Thread kimaidou
I follow the guide on the wiki to install it on the sd card : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_/_Qt_Extended_on_FreeRunner#Option_2:_Dual-Booting_between_Qtopia_and_2007.2_.28Qtopia_boots_from_MicroSD_card.29 It worked pretty well for me ! ___

Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

2008-11-10 Thread Andrew Chu
Hi Christoph, You could try the Option 2 instructions found on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia_/_Qt_Extended_on_FreeRunner and see if that works. If it does, other users could benefit if you update the wiki to reflect any changes to the procedure you had to make. Cheers,

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-10 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Martin Vyšný wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 For those that don't read the kernel ML,

Re: idea: accelerometer daemon

2008-11-10 Thread kimaidou
Hi the potentiel of these accelerometer is great, but I need some help to really understand what can be done with them. I mean for now i know openmoocow, gestures What can I do with theses recognized gestures ? Load a command, call my mother ? I don't wnat to sound against their use, but for

Re: idea: accelerometer daemon

2008-11-10 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Hi Paul, Here is an interesting reference for you on recognizing contexts from mobile phone data (can send you the PDF as PM upon request): Modular Bayesian Network for Uncertainty Handling on Mobile Device Keum-Sung Hwang, Sung-Bae Cho. Mobile devices can now handle a great deal of

Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-10 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I am also affected by the WSOD and read many about it. | So I try several things and figured out that WSOD is gone if I keep the | freerunner over 30°C AND suspend it by the power button. The high

Re: Re: GPG for SMS?

2008-11-10 Thread Kieran Fleming
I think a client/server setup would be better than this. You could have a generic messaging program that attempts to contact the person using normal TCP/IP and fall back to SMS if that doesn't work. With this you can have proper public key encryption and message signing, and there is a guarantee

Re: Re: GPG for SMS?

2008-11-10 Thread rhn
Wiadomość Oryginalna Od: Vinzenz Hersche [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wiki.thc.org/gsm#head-1d4386f26b54c1890bdb6b181b6293c3b9b5af62 i read a article about this group. they could crack gsm-connection's in 2 hours without some cleartext. another issue in my eyes is the possibility of the

Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems

2008-11-10 Thread Christoph Simolka
Thanks, gps is not importent for me right now. I'll try qtextended for now.. Is there a way to install it on the sd-card? I'd like to keep FSO to test it from time to time to give some feedback and maybe help improving fso. As soon as it is stable enough to use it as a phone I think it should

Re: [Qtextended] Bluetooth headset

2008-11-10 Thread Nishit Dave
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Angus Ainslie [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks, I was testing the bluetooth connection today and realised that once you use the installed script to switch bluetooth off, there is no (known or

Re: Openmoko chronology

2008-11-10 Thread David Samblas
El lun, 10-11-2008 a las 10:39 +0100, Minh Ha Duong escribió: Hi, I think openmoko-the-project was founded not by FIC but by a core team comprising a handfull of german devs (Sean, I guess Harald, and others but the The original core team page was deleted from the wiki on Sep. 2, 2008).

Re: OM Testing: task-openmoko-qtopia-x11 has unsatisfied gstreamer depencies

2008-11-10 Thread Ray Chao
Hi Martin, Due to the license issue, it seems we took out a package and this is the reason gstreamer failed to install. And we couldn't distribute this anymore. I am sorry about this. At the mean time, we could not provide the codec to make gstreamer work, however, you could try to build a

FreeRunner as Bluetooth GPS

2008-11-10 Thread Angus Ainslie
There have been instructions on the wiki [1] on how to use your FreeRunner as a bluetooth GPS. I wrote a script to simplify the process. To use it python, python-pygtk, gpsd and gps-utils need to be installed. http://handheldshell.com/software/BtGPS.py

Re: [OM2008] Events/0 eats 30% -- Causing Doom to run slow.

2008-11-10 Thread François TOURDE
Le 14191ième jour après Epoch, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra écrivait: On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 08:32:16PM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: those flaming laptops popped into my mind :) - oddly, the battery wasnt any hotter than the rest of the phone, though the screen did seem so (perhaps whatever is

Re: Openmoko chronology

2008-11-10 Thread Steve Mosher
David, Thanks for doing this. It was on my TODO list for CES. Steve David Samblas wrote: El lun, 10-11-2008 a las 10:39 +0100, Minh Ha Duong escribió: Hi, I think openmoko-the-project was founded not by FIC but by a core team comprising a handfull of german devs (Sean, I guess

Re: idea: accelerometer daemon

2008-11-10 Thread William Kenworthy
I think its quite likely to need multiple clients: openmoocow/gestures/accel-rotate are on my phone now. When it starts being a reliable phone I would also like to try the orientation based profiles so there will often be two or more applications running at the same time. BillK On Mon,

Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

2008-11-10 Thread Marian Flor
Am Montag, den 10.11.2008, 00:33 +0100 schrieb Lothar Behrens: I had some more look about other cards about 8GB, but if there are more users having success, I will buy this card. The iPhone and the N810 support 16GB microSD so why shouldn't the Openmoko? was my guess and so I gave it a try.

Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-10 Thread joakim
hiciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I've packaged E for Debian. So far it works. Installation (clean Debian, from http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/files.git;a=blob;f=install.sh): Thanks for this, its very nice! wget

[debian] “Official” installer revision now always in git

2008-11-10 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, just a quick announcement from the Debian folks. Because we continually improve the installer script, it turned out to be most useful if everyone uses the latest version. Therefore, the official place to get the source is now

Re: FreeRunner as Bluetooth GPS

2008-11-10 Thread Radek Bartoň
On Monday 10 of November 2008 21:15:06 Angus Ainslie wrote: There have been instructions on the wiki [1] on how to use your FreeRunner as a bluetooth GPS. I wrote a script to simplify the process. To use it python, python-pygtk, gpsd and gps-utils need to be installed.

Re: FreeRunner as Bluetooth GPS

2008-11-10 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Radek Bartoň [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool. Unfortunatelly, I can't get it started for now. First there was issue mentioned here https://savannah.cern.ch/bugs/?28400 and then this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/BtGPS.py, line 26,

Re: USB keyboard udev rule

2008-11-10 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/11/11 Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pander wrote: Does anyone have a udev rule for USB keyboard that does the following. When no external USB devices are connected and a keyboard is plugged in, USB can switch to host mode and switch back when USB keyboard is unplugged. As far as

gsm modem and suspend

2008-11-10 Thread Flyin_bbb8
DISTRO=FDOM-27-09-2008 http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/mirror/compartida.net/Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20080927.rootfs.jffs2 KERNEL= http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture-2.bin when system starts apm -s suspends the freerunner properly, but when i go to

Re: LSCD project

2008-11-10 Thread SCarlson
How much are the biped frames? with and without servos. Where do I purchase the equipment? The local distributor does not seem to have their site finished. http://www.wlrobot.com/contacts.html ? The only product I've seen for sale is the servo kit on ebay. Am I missing something? -src SoG

Re: gsm modem and suspend

2008-11-10 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi, On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when system starts apm -s suspends the freerunner properly, but when i go to config/services and turn off gsm and turn on again or i manually turn off the gsm by echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on