Re: infos about packages in various distributions

2008-11-14 Thread Pander
Please read this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions#Features_by_distribution.2Frelease_target until the end of the page. Make any updates if you se possible. and see also http://opkg.org/ Regards, Pander heat wrote: Still trying various distributions (... and still haven't find MY

Re: Optimization team update (11/02 ~ 11/08)

2008-11-14 Thread Jeremy Chang
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:28:32PM +0100, Petr Vanek wrote: Hi community, Hi John Lee, thank you for the great update :) Great work, thank you! I haven't tried yet but today want to download the testing quick boot image from last week to see the difference :) Jeremy looked into the two

Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.

2008-11-14 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Tim, The only threat a patent troll understands is a well funded group of researchers and lawyers ready and willing to spend millions of dollars and years of effort to invalidate their prized patent. Fortunately, such things _do_ exist. I suggest OpenMoko search for, and solicit help from

[Om2008.9] tar file corrupt after transport to FR

2008-11-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, I wanted to tranfer some thousand (OSM) files from my laptop to the FR; the tar file is fine on the laptop (FreeBSD 7.0r): $ tar tf osm-20081114.tar | wc -l 13067 the MD5 sums are matching after transport with SCP: $ md5 osm-20081114.tar MD5 (osm-20081114.tar

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Jacob, Glamo is not a forbidden topic. Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to not trust high-level promises as much as before. In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward, we will not trust any promises about 'we will open this up later' anymore.

Re: [Om2008.9] tar file corrupt after transport to FR

2008-11-14 Thread William Kenworthy
) files from my laptop to the FR; the tar file is fine on the laptop (FreeBSD 7.0r): $ tar tf osm-20081114.tar | wc -l 13067 the MD5 sums are matching after transport with SCP: $ md5 osm-20081114.tar MD5 (osm-20081114.tar) = 4b23f51e29307281d0a18e3aac2f7324 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 06:11:30PM +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: built with the Freerunner is awesome. Please continue to buy Freerunners and to develop for it, same is happening internally. The next phones will build on top of the free platform we have built together, the technology

Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread mallikarjun arjun
Dear all I am new to openmoko and i am not able to install applications and my network is up i can ping. When i type [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc# opkg install openmoko-dates2 An error ocurred, return value: 2. and when i update it will flash these errors in seconds [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc# opkg

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread smurfy - phil
opkg install openmoko-dates2 An error ocurred, return value: 2. i not know what happend but try a opkg upgrade Signature check failed this is normal. all repositories does not have .sig files. phil ___ Openmoko community mailing list

(Debian) IceWm running!

2008-11-14 Thread Paul
Yes, it works. Fast! Including the openmoko-panel-plugin. See an example at http://www.nlpagan.net/images/img_3914.jpg (And no, that's not my cat ;-) Paul -- The things I want to know are in books; my best friend is the man who'll get me a book I ain't read. -Abraham Lincoln

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread rakshat hooja
try checking if you can install by giving the full ipk url (see opkg.org for the full urls) of some packages with opkg install. Let me know if that works. Rakshat On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:37 PM, mallikarjun arjun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all I am new to openmoko and i am not able to

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread smurfy - phil
ok crap, the download of the packages also fails :) you said you could ping, your own computer or something else? i normally connect my freerunner to my eeepc with linux. i have special iptables rules on my eeepc host to provide NATing to the internet. does pinging www.openmoko.org works?

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread mallikarjun arjun
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:44 PM, smurfy - phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: opkg install openmoko-dates2 An error ocurred, return value: 2. i not know what happend but try a opkg upgrade Signature check failed this is normal. all repositories does not have .sig files. but when i enter

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread mallikarjun arjun
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:48 PM, rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try checking if you can install by giving the full ipk url (see opkg.orgfor the full urls) of some packages with opkg install. Let me know if that works. Rakshat [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg install

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread mallikarjun arjun
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:51 PM, smurfy - phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok crap, the download of the packages also fails :) you said you could ping, your own computer or something else? i normally connect my freerunner to my eeepc with linux. i have special iptables rules on my eeepc host

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread mallikarjun arjun
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:01 PM, mallikarjun arjun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:51 PM, smurfy - phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok crap, the download of the packages also fails :) you said you could ping, your own computer or something else? i normally connect my

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread smurfy - phil
yes i think so, My working settings on GTA02, i use the 192.168.10.x net for my usb connection, this could differ for you. 192.168.10.2 is my freerunner and 192.168.10.1 my eeepc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 208.67.222.222 nameserver 208.67.220.220 cat

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread Steven Goyvaerts
Hi, This may happen because DNS server adress is missing. Just ssh into your freerunner and add the IP adress for the DNS server command : nano /etc/resolv.conf then add to the resolv.conf file : nameserver your DNS serveripadress (without the quotes) save the resolv.conf file (ctrl o) quit

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread mallikarjun arjun
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:21 PM, smurfy - phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes i think so, My working settings on GTA02, i use the 192.168.10.x net for my usb connection, this could differ for you. 192.168.10.2 is my freerunner and 192.168.10.1 my eeepc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat

Re: [Om2008.9] tar file corrupt after transport to FR

2008-11-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, November 14, 2008 a las 07:32:25PM +0900, William Kenworthy escribió: Yeah, the busybox tar command cant handle large files without dying. I untar'd what I could and just ran rsync to fix the problems and move the rest over - slower but it worked. I've Google'd around and

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread rakshat hooja
I am also pretty sure its a missing DNS server in resolv.conf. Rakshat On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Steven Goyvaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, This may happen because DNS server adress is missing. Just ssh into your freerunner and add the IP adress for the DNS server command :

Re: Openmoko Problem

2008-11-14 Thread mallikarjun arjun
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:24 PM, mallikarjun arjun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:21 PM, smurfy - phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes i think so, My working settings on GTA02, i use the 192.168.10.x net for my usb connection, this could differ for you. 192.168.10.2 is

Re: Openmoko Problem (Solved)

2008-11-14 Thread mallikarjun arjun
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:28 PM, rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am also pretty sure its a missing DNS server in resolv.conf. yes man it was DNS server problem. Rakshat On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Steven Goyvaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, This may happen because DNS

[shr] phone apps don't work

2008-11-14 Thread Tilman Baumann
I have problems with all openmoko-* apps regarding GSM/SIM. But strangely the GSM applet shows i have service. I have collected some messages from the console output. Maybe they have a common cause which i can fix. Because i really like to use shr, because it has just the right gui and the

Re: [shr] phone apps don't work

2008-11-14 Thread photonmedia
I was having problems with the built-in versions of those apps. Apparently my GSM was not properly registered. What worled for me was to: Opkg remove frameworkd fso-gpsd tangogps Then opkg install them again. Maybe it will work for you. James Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Nishit Dave
I might have to skip GTA03 since I have just spent a huge 300 Euros for a GTA02 :) I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03 or it'll be hard to get much new customers... Well said. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.

2008-11-14 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:38 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me link back to one of my Weekly Engineering News (back when they were still weekly, ahem - I am working hard to get this good discipline back!) http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td837114 We looked at

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to not trust high-level promises as much as before. In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward, we will not trust any promises about 'we will

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Rui Nishit, I might have to skip GTA03 since I have just spent a huge 300 Euros for a GTA02 :) I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03 or it'll be hard to get much new customers... Wow, this is actually really complicated, let me tell you a bit how I see

Re: [shr] phone apps don't work

2008-11-14 Thread Julien Cassignol
As I told before, please use the shr-devel mailing list for that kind of issue, as SHR hasn't been released yet and we don't want to/can't settle all the issues of all the users in the world right now, as we already have issues to fix :-) On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you for your answer. I bought GTA02 and I am really happy of this buy. I hope to buy the next major revision! I am not still using it as my daily phone (to say the true I hate phones), but I using my free time to develop it. About the lesson,

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Jacob Peterson
Thank you for the response Wolfgang. The current FreeRunner is already starting to show its potential as a kick-ass phone and defiantly has me excited to see what future version can offer, but it is sad to see the user interface will never be able to support smooth animations or run any

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Minh Ha Duong
I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03 or it'll be hard to get much new customers... Actually I have never read any jokes about the software stack. But it is a sign of good mental health when a community is able to make fun of itself. Besides, where else would

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Nishit Dave
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03 or it'll be hard to get much new customers... Actually I have never read any jokes about the software stack. But it is a sign of good mental health

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Torsten Sievers
Hi Wolfgang, i really appreciate the work you and all the OM-folks and the community does, but: You say the current software is a 'joke', which is painful for me but I accept it. From where we all want to be it's a joke, yes. Agreed. Well, for me, the software is not a joke. It's a little

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Gothnet
To add my two pence-worth about the joke comment - I have a very high tolerance to stuff not working. or not working smoothly. Most of my computers are broken in some way at any given time. However, when forced to rely on it for a month, even I got annoyed with the freerunner running OM

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Dear Wolfgang, On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 09:11:40PM +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: You say the current software is a 'joke', which is painful for me but I accept it. From where we all want to be it's a joke, yes. Agreed. So that also answers your question when GTA03 will come out. It's a

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 02:36:27PM +0100, Minh Ha Duong wrote: I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03 or it'll be hard to get much new customers... Actually I have never read any jokes about the software stack. But it is a sign of good mental health when a

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Yorick Moko
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jacob, Glamo is not a forbidden topic. Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo, please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to extend the smedia documentation to

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Yorick Moko
somebody (leinir) on irc suggested you could maybe hire http://www.tungstengraphics.com (leinir Tungsten Graphics being the people behind gallium3d of course) although I don't know how much openmoko is willing to spend on it y On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problem editing wiki

2008-11-14 Thread Thomas Franck
Hi.. I have a problem editing the wiki. [...] Is anyone else experiencing this? Do you know what can be causing it? Known problem.. see: http://n2.nabble.com/whitespace-going-missing-on-wikipages-td1479519ef1958.html#a1479519 -- Thomas ___

Re: Problem editing wiki

2008-11-14 Thread glownan
Thanks! Thomas Franck wrote: Hi.. I have a problem editing the wiki. [...] Is anyone else experiencing this? Do you know what can be causing it? Known problem.. see: http://n2.nabble.com/whitespace-going-missing-on-wikipages-td1479519ef1958.html#a1479519 -- Thomas

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Le vendredi 14 novembre 2008, Yorick Moko a écrit : On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jacob, Glamo is not a forbidden topic. Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo, please get in touch with me and we will find a

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Jacob Peterson
I know the buzzing issue had quite a bit of attention from the Openmoko team, judging from watching the traffic on the Hardware and Kernel mailing lists. So I don't think they have given up on that, but it doesn't seem like there is any set solution for current devices, only anecdotal reports of

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Gothnet
Jacob Peterson wrote: I know the buzzing issue had quite a bit of attention from the Openmoko team, judging from watching the traffic on the Hardware and Kernel mailing lists. So I don't think they have given up on that, but it doesn't seem like there is any set solution for current

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Jacob Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the buzzing issue had quite a bit of attention from the Openmoko team, judging from watching the traffic on the Hardware and Kernel mailing lists. So I don't think they have given up on that, but it doesn't seem

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Iain B. Findleton
I run Mesa on my FR without any problem, aside from the possible slowness of it, but then again, its pretty similar in performance to any 400 mhz box I have used in the past. I can only presume this complaint laments the lack of hardware acceleration for the OpenGL calls. How complex can that be

Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-14 Thread polz
On Thursday 13 November 2008 09:14:01 grslmpf wrote: ... Mayby the Glamo will work only partly caused by a bad reset? I've experienced the WSOD about three times in the last six months on a Neo 1973. It only appears if I use an X server (I've never seen in on Qtopia). Since the 1973 doesn't

Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-14 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Mayby the Glamo will work only partly caused by a bad reset? I've experienced the WSOD about three times in the last six months on a Neo 1973. It only appears if I use an X server (I've never seen in on Qtopia). Since the 1973 doesn't have Glamo, the source of the problem probably lies

Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-14 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thursday 13 November 2008 09:14:01 grslmpf wrote: | ... | Mayby the Glamo will work only partly caused by a bad reset? | I've experienced the WSOD about three times in the last six months on | a Neo

Re: testing report (with hardware conclusion)

2008-11-14 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Friday 14 November 2008, Wendy wrote: Feel free to ask questions. :) Hi! What about the echo? Any reports on that issue? Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing

GPRS Issues - Related to infamous 'buzz'?

2008-11-14 Thread Warren Baird
Hi all, Since my FR has been working as a pretty reliable phone since I installed QtE 4.4.2, I decided to get greedy and see if I could get GPRS working. Note that I've been lucky, and have never suffered from the buzz issues that I've heard so many people talk about. So on QtE, I went to the

Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-14 Thread Petr Vanek
| ... | Mayby the Glamo will work only partly caused by a bad reset? | I've experienced the WSOD about three times in the last six months on | a Neo 1973. It only appears if I use an X server (I've never seen in on | Qtopia). Since the 1973 doesn't have Glamo, the source of the problem probably |

Re: WSOD (ticket #1841) (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-14 Thread Petr Vanek
I just installed the 2008.9 kernel and the latest FDOM jffs2 as in: http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fdom/Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.jffs2 I just checked and the 2008.9 is no longer available! About 2 weeks ago I downloaded from:

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Riccardo Centra
2008/11/14 Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to not trust high-level promises as much as before. In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward,

Re: (Debian) IceWm running!

2008-11-14 Thread Tha_Man
Paul-8 wrote: Yes, it works. Fast! Including the openmoko-panel-plugin. See an example at http://www.nlpagan.net/images/img_3914.jpg (And no, that's not my cat ;-) Paul Hey Paul, (fellow GoT member ;-) ) Looks pretty good! I'm running IceWM as well, but how did you rotate the

Re: (Debian) IceWm running!

2008-11-14 Thread Paul
Hey Jeroen tha GoT Man! Looks pretty good! I'm running IceWM as well, but how did you rotate the screen? The method described on the Debian page (editing xorg.conf) doesn't seem to work for me, is there anything I missed? I did only edit xorg.conf and restarted X. It worked after that, no

Re: (Debian) IceWm running!

2008-11-14 Thread Pander
Paul wrote: Hey Jeroen tha GoT Man! Looks pretty good! I'm running IceWM as well, but how did you rotate the screen? The method described on the Debian page (editing xorg.conf) doesn't seem to work for me, is there anything I missed? I did only edit xorg.conf and restarted X. It

Re: (Debian) IceWm running!

2008-11-14 Thread Paul
Here are efforts to do this without using x.org all together: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-November/035551.html Please also look into Illume keyboard of enlightenment, could that with with IceWm? Nifty. Playthings for the weekend. Thank you!! Paul -- The things

Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.

2008-11-14 Thread Chris Samuel
- Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact... if OpenMoko could make as much information available as possible about how much this has cost them - in lost productivity, lawyers fees, etc. - I'm sure it would help to galvanize more action among the community. FWIW as this was

Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound

2008-11-14 Thread Michel
Peter Mogensen wrote: Hi, Hi, I just wanted to congratulate the FSO team for their new images. Looking at FSO for the first time and was very nicely surprised by the interface. If this path is continued all will be well :) For the first time I have perfect sound over GSM. No echo, no buzz.

Re: Buzzing

2008-11-14 Thread Chris Samuel
- Torsten Sievers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What really is a joke and absolutly unacceptable for me is the Buzzing I'm puzzled about this buzzing, is this something that the other party only hears or are you hearing this yourself ? I've never experienced a buzzing on my end of my phone

Re: Buzzing

2008-11-14 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 22:26, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm puzzled about this buzzing, is this something that the other party only hears or are you hearing this yourself ? I've never experienced a buzzing on my end of my phone (GTA02, rev 5 I think, purchased July/August in the

Re: Buzzing

2008-11-14 Thread Michel
Chris Samuel wrote: Hi Chris, I'm puzzled about this buzzing, is this something that the other party only hears or are you hearing this yourself ? For the other party, and tweaking the gsmhandset.state is not helping (for me at least). I've never experienced a buzzing on my end of my phone

Raster's Alarm

2008-11-14 Thread Joel Newkirk
I've put together an opkg of Raster's alarm app from his testing images. (also appears in latest SHR testing) The GUI and the wakerd service that actually handles the alarm. But there's a problem, and I'm hoping someone can see what I missed. Everything works find, EXCEPT the slider-button

Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound

2008-11-14 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:24:15 +0100, Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Mogensen wrote: Hi, Hi, I just wanted to congratulate the FSO team for their new images. Looking at FSO for the first time and was very nicely surprised by the interface. If this path is continued all will be

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Jacob Peterson
After really digging the archives I came across one thread [1] that has a lot of good information on the limits of the Glamo and what has been tried already to get more usefulness out of it. I think it would be good to have some of the information from that thread on the wiki. Any suggestions on

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Lech Karol Pawłaszek
Jacob Peterson wrote: After really digging the archives I came across one thread [1] that has a lot of good information on the limits of the Glamo and what has been tried already to get more usefulness out of it. I think it would be good to have some of the information from that thread on the

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Thomas White
Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a GTA02 owner, as a founding member of the Open Graphics Project, as a Director of the Open Hardware Foundation, I believe I have the resources to accomplish such a task. I'd love to try. Can we make it happen? I would love to contribute in some

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Tim Dobson
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to not trust high-level promises as much as before. In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward, we will not trust any promises about 'we will open this up later' anymore. Either it's open

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo, please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to extend the smedia documentation to you. In fact we have done that in a few cases before already, but I'm not sure how much

Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?

2008-11-14 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
FilipBE wrote: I was able to disable/re-enable wifi with following lines, I did however not have the time to check the impact on battery life # using Atheros wmiconfig command to disable wlan ./wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan disable # To re-enable wlan: ./wmiconfig -i eth0 --wlan enable

Flashing Neo

2008-11-14 Thread mallikarjun arjun
Dear all, Is there a problem if i flash my neo too many times? because i have done around 20 times in a week time.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Font size problem #2

2008-11-14 Thread Michael Mather
I am running FDOM and I think that font sizes are being handled wrongly. Here is what I think is happening. Could someone who knows more about this correct any details that are wrong. It seems that the standard font size in desktop computers is 12 points, which means that the characters are

Re: Font size problem #2

2008-11-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:52:08 -0500 Michael Mather [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: i absolutely agree. scaling with dpi is short-sightned and too simplisitc as you are right - it is not just scaling to dpi BUT scaling to the visual field that the display would consume - ie how many % of your field of

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Stroller
On 14 Nov 2008, at 16:10, Minh Ha Duong wrote: Le vendredi 14 novembre 2008, Yorick Moko a écrit : On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jacob, Glamo is not a forbidden topic. Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo,

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Kishore
On Friday 14 Nov 2008 8:13:20 pm Gothnet wrote: Also, I know everyone loves X, but is it really the best choice for a low powered device that needs a responsive UI? I am just curious about this. I hope someone can comment on this. My thought is that X is used because most apps that already

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-14 Thread Stroller
On 15 Nov 2008, at 07:08, Kishore wrote: On Friday 14 Nov 2008 8:13:20 pm Gothnet wrote: Also, I know everyone loves X, but is it really the best choice for a low powered device that needs a responsive UI? ... I still would like to know more in terms of performance and memory