Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-21 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/11/21 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As Raster's already pushed hard on Glamo acceleration, and I know he's quite capable (I was an old enlightenment WM user back in the day), I consider the glamo issue closed. We're stuck with what we have, and simply have to find ways to be efficient

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-21 Thread Lally Singh
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Timo Jyrinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/21 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: snip I'm taking a protective role for the community in all this. IMHO the community's what makes the OM phone interesting. I'd rather not see well-intentioned hackers spend long

Re: Is there any kind of network manager?

2008-11-21 Thread Alastair Johnson
Leonti Bielski wrote: Hi! As in the subject - is there any connection manager available for Freerunner to switch and manage between WiFi, GPRS and usb? I've seen connection manager in Illume, but it seems to be empty. What is left to implement to get it working? Are there any alternatives?

Re: Fast screen rotate app

2008-11-21 Thread kazer
Hi, i've used FDOM(great distro) for just a while and the only thing I didn't like was the really slow rotate app. So here is a slightly faster one. The source is in a bazaar repository. It can be get from here: https://turmspitze.org/pubbzr/rotate I will build binaries on request.

[Debian] xterm shortcut

2008-11-21 Thread Atilla Filiz
After I set my driver to Xglamo, [ctrl]+[alt]+[x] no longer launches xterm. How do I get it back? Alternatively, i can maybe just customize ./xsession so xterm starts automatically. Any idea? -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of

Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.

2008-11-21 Thread Cédric Berger
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 16:12, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 16:16, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Just a question before trying these files: do they allow to play media like before? well I don't know since I have never tried playing media... Have you tried ? And

Re: [Debian] xterm shortcut

2008-11-21 Thread Atilla Filiz
Actually, with Xglamo, [alt]+[tab] also doesn't work. I guess i'm returning to fbdev for now. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Neil Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: ahh, so it was Xglamo that did that (ive been at a confrence and havent had time to look discovered i have the no wake from

Re: Fast screen rotate app

2008-11-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:43:14PM +0100, Moritz Bitsch wrote: Hi, i've used FDOM(great distro) for just a while and the only thing I didn't like was the really slow rotate app. So here is a slightly faster one. The source is in a bazaar repository. It can be get from here:

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-21 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/11/20 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] it's accelerated - but likely polling the command queue status as you have no interrupts thanks to the linux kernel's policy of not exporting interrupts to userspace, so you're stuck with a poll loop. i can't remember if glamo had

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-21 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | so right now other than bugs and trying to minimise cpu overhead on handling | the commandqueue 2d is done - it's not getting faster. only thing left is 3d. | and that comes with a long list of gotchas.

[FSO M4] Where is it?

2008-11-21 Thread Arigead
I can't seem to find a link to download the images (kernel File System) of FSO Milestone 4 either on the openmoko wiki pages or on freesmartphone wiki either. Does this have to be built from scratch or are there pre-built images? Thanks for any help

Re: [Debian] xterm shortcut

2008-11-21 Thread Neil Caldwell
ahh, so it was Xglamo that did that (ive been at a confrence and havent had time to look discovered i have the no wake from suspend bug after a format, lol bad timing.) just putting xterm in ./xsession works for me I have two starting on login. unfortunatly i cant help you any further (i

Re: [FSO M4] Where is it?

2008-11-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:01:08PM +, Arigead wrote: I can't seem to find a link to download the images (kernel File System) of FSO Milestone 4 either on the openmoko wiki pages or on freesmartphone wiki either. Does this have to be built from scratch or are there pre-built images?

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:19:59 +0100 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: 2008/11/20 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] it's accelerated - but likely polling the command queue status as you have no interrupts thanks to the linux kernel's policy of not exporting interrupts

Re: [FSO M4] Where is it?

2008-11-21 Thread superalex
^^ http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/ Arigead wrote: I can't seem to find a link to download the images (kernel File System) of FSO Milestone -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO-M4--Where-is-it--tp1561480p1561534.html Sent from the Openmoko

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-21 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi, all this talking without outcome is very boring to read. :| I cannot help with the development of a free 3D-capable driver for the Glamo directly instead I offer money! As soon as cofundos.org is working again (I hope they haven't shut it down) I will create a project and offer 50€ to the

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers ... come on lets do it.

2008-11-21 Thread Robert Schuster
Update! Hi, I am also open for alternative payments like a box of beer, wine or whatever. After all this is all about having fun, isn't it? :) Regards Robert Robert Schuster schrieb: Hi, all this talking without outcome is very boring to read. :| I cannot help with the development of a

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers ... come on lets do it.

2008-11-21 Thread Yorick Moko
i'm willing to send some good belgian beer On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update! Hi, I am also open for alternative payments like a box of beer, wine or whatever. After all this is all about having fun, isn't it? :) Regards Robert Robert

Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Persson
Hi, it would be interesting to know which type of touch-screen that people would prefer to use on their future OpenMoko device. A not so scientific survey can be found at: http://www.733kru.org/~pltxtra/OpenMoko/survey.html Best regards Anton Persson

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-21 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/11/21 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] XSync sends a request to x and waits for a reply - so your client app will stop and wait until x replies. x will reply once it has completed all existing requests - that means the XCopeArea. while your app is waiting xglamo is

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Persson
Naturally the iPhone UI is exciting... But I think that the UI possibilities is an important reason to choose the one over the other. Like; resistive displays allow you to use a stylus, which might be good when you have a small display but high resolution. On the other hand, a capacitive display

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Vikas Saurabh wrote: I think we need to decide upon this without the bias of UIone might get excited with iPhone's UI. What we would have to remember: * capacitive screen would always require a touch of finger (hence all the UI elements need to take enough space on screen) so the whole

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Vikas Saurabh
I think we need to decide upon this without the bias of UIone might get excited with iPhone's UI. What we would have to remember: * capacitive screen would always require a touch of finger (hence all the UI elements need to take enough space on screen) so the whole fun of high reso is

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Persson
Then a capacitive screen would do wonders for motivating the development of proper finger-input on the keypad... ;-D On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vikas Saurabh wrote: I think we need to decide upon this without the bias of UIone might get

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 for the same screen as currently used or at least the same quality but bigger and a keypad. Finger use for the current screen is pretty much a failure. (not impossible but as far as text input goes pretty much failed) Same for me: 1. Bigger

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-21 Thread Yorick Moko
harald welte did good for via: http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/pressrelease.jsp?press_release_no=2887 let's ship him to smedia :) On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/21 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] XSync sends a request

Re: Re : Receiving empty sms after registration

2008-11-21 Thread Shawn Thompson
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:47 AM, François Rigaudie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Same problem for me with the same french operator. I receive those SMS (_@ or _/\@) when I have a message in my voice-mailbox. Clearly they should be interpreted by the phone to indicate that a new message is

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Lech Karol Pawłaszek
Michele Renda wrote: [...] Same for me: 1. Bigger screen (With this resolution we can permit) 2. Same resolution ( I like it a lot :) 3. Current touch technology And borderless screen. I like everything I have except that there are sections unavailable on the screen because there is this

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-21 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | 2008/11/21 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | XSync sends a request to x and waits for a reply - so your client | app will stop | and wait until x

Re: [QtExtended] Best 4.4.2 image?

2008-11-21 Thread drac2000
I went to get mwester kernel and modules Currently i run qtextended from SD card (my flashed distro is FDOM) following the How-to on wiki, so I have /dev/mmcblk0p1 that contains uImage.bin and /dev/mmcblk0p2 thta contains flatted jffs2 image I overwrited the kernel image (uImage.bin) that I had

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Al Iasid
IMHO having to dig out a stylus (pen) or use my fingernail is not nearly as convenient or enjoyable as a finger-friendly interface. I don't min hi res or low res - or big or small screen size - as long as the interface is finger-friendly. The cell phone is our most intimate personal device. There

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Marcel
Am Friday 21 November 2008 14:58:47 schrieb Lech Karol Pawłaszek: And borderless screen. I like everything I have except that there are sections unavailable on the screen because there is this plastic border. I suppose it would be possible to make borderless case so my point be invalid...

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Persson
If you make a borderless case the risk is bigger for scratches and other damaging things to happen to the display... In that case a hard surface would be preferable. Best regards, Anton On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Lech Karol Pawłaszek [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Michele Renda

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread DJDAS
Al Iasid ha scritto: IMHO having to dig out a stylus (pen) or use my fingernail is not nearly as convenient or enjoyable as a finger-friendly interface. I don't min hi res or low res - or big or small screen size - as long as the interface is finger-friendly. The cell phone is our most

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Yorick Moko
nothing a good screenprotector can't prevent 2008/11/21 Anton Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you make a borderless case the risk is bigger for scratches and other damaging things to happen to the display... In that case a hard surface would be preferable. Best regards, Anton

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Lally Singh
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nothing a good screenprotector can't prevent 2008/11/21 Anton Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you make a borderless case the risk is bigger for scratches and other damaging things to happen to the display... In that case

Re: [Android] Soft keyboard

2008-11-21 Thread Denis Galvão
Hi Yann. Should I press the button twice? once? I sent the Phone.apk into the apps dir, but the answer didn't work for me. Is there any tricky around that? Thanks, -- Denis On 20/11/2008, at 22:05, Yann neveu wrote: Le jeudi 20 novembre 2008 21:23:33 Yann neveu, vous avez écrit : Le

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Denis Galvão
My two reais. My choince is a capacitive screen, and we must consider the user finger interaction when developing applications. Really, we don't need a hi res screen on a day by day gadget, what we NEED is an easy way to handle the phone, carry a stylus should not be a good idea, is a step

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Gothnet
Larger screen. More real estate for a keyboard, basically, the current ones are just on the boundary of unusable with a finger and anything bigger would take up too much space; you need a comfortable amount of space for the application and the on screen input. -- View this message in context:

Re: Fast screen rotate app

2008-11-21 Thread Moritz Bitsch
Hi, I've built a small binary package. It can be get from here: https://turmspitze.org/files/rotate_0.0.1_armv4t.ipk A Source package can be get from here: https://turmspitze.org/files/rotate-0.0.1.tar.gz Moritz ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Persson
Less capable in which way? We just saw that you CAN use a stylus with a capacitive screen, if you really need that. What other arguments are there for a resistive screen? Best regards, Anton On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I agree

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Yorick Moko
maybe it's just me, but the pictures on http://www.tenonedesign.com/stylus.php seem to indicate that this is one big mother fucker of a stylus, i mean, the diameter of the stylusis is almost as big as the surface of the tip of you fingers you use to click... (keep in mind you use an area with a

Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Ken Young
Denis Galvo wrote: Really, we don't need a hi res screen on a day by day gadget I could not possibly disagree more strongly. Ken Young ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Persson
Novelty-factor? Have you ever used an iPhone for a longer period? I know several people who own one now , and they would _NEVER_ turn back to anything like a stylus controlled device, again. I really would _LOVE_ an iPhone, if it came with Free Software... But the novelty factor-argument has

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Persson
Me too, high-res is all good.. But high-res does NOT preclude the use of a capacitive display.. So that's no argument for the classic type... On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Ken Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis Galvo wrote: Really, we don't need a hi res screen on a day by day gadget

Re: [Android] Soft keyboard

2008-11-21 Thread Yann Neveu
Le Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:19:50 -0200, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi Yann. Should I press the button twice? once? I sent the Phone.apk into the apps dir, but the answer didn't work for me. Is there any tricky around that? Should be juste one on the power button. Have you

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Damien Thébault
2008/11/21 Al Iasid [EMAIL PROTECTED]: IMHO having to dig out a stylus (pen) or use my fingernail is not nearly as convenient or enjoyable as a finger-friendly interface. I don't min hi res or low res - or big or small screen size - as long as the interface is finger-friendly. The cell phone

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 04:51:07PM +0100, Damien Thébault wrote: 2008/11/21 Al Iasid [EMAIL PROTECTED]: IMHO having to dig out a stylus (pen) or use my fingernail is not nearly as convenient or enjoyable as a finger-friendly interface. I don't min hi res or low res - or big or small screen

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Persson
To just view the current standings in the poll: http://www.micropoll.com/akira/mpresult/509337-120694 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 04:51:07PM +0100, Damien Thébault wrote: 2008/11/21 Al Iasid [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
I just want to point out that I will not vote because the vote is bullshit. The type of the screen is not the only thing. Size and resolution matters too. And even more important. Price and availability. What you want is totally unimportant. The question is which compromises are you ready to

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
I don't care about the poll. I care about a rich user experience, and what the iPhone has of best is not due to the touchscreen (with the exception of physical area and no huge border) :) On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 05:13:50PM +0100, Anton Persson wrote: To just view the current standings in the

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Anton Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Novelty-factor? Have you ever used an iPhone for a longer period? I know several people who own one now , and they would _NEVER_ turn back to anything like a stylus controlled device, again. I really would _LOVE_ an iPhone, if it came with Free

Re: [Android] Soft keyboard

2008-11-21 Thread akurpiel
Yann neveu-2 wrote: Le Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:19:50 -0200, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi Yann. Should I press the button twice? once? I sent the Phone.apk into the apps dir, but the answer didn't work for me. Is there any tricky around that? Should be juste one on

Re: [Android] Soft keyboard

2008-11-21 Thread Denis Galvão
On 21/11/2008, at 13:36, Yann Neveu wrote: The Phone.apk is on the phone end not on the usd? It is on the app dir on the SD. Am I wrong doing that? -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Denis Galvão
On 21/11/2008, at 13:20, Ken Young wrote: Really, we don't need a hi res screen on a day by day gadget I could not possibly disagree more strongly. So, give me a reason where you will need that. Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [Android] Soft keyboard

2008-11-21 Thread Yann Neveu
Le Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:36:26 +0100, Yann Neveu [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Le Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:19:50 -0200, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi Yann. Should I press the button twice? once? I sent the Phone.apk into the apps dir, but the answer didn't work for me. Is

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
And I'm not sure that multi touch is really so important and the low res I do not know if it's important, but being restricted to events of the form mouse-1-down, mouse-1-up, and mouse-move is problematic in my experience. So if we can't have multi-touch sensitivity, we need some other source

Re: [Android] Soft keyboard

2008-11-21 Thread Yann Neveu
Le Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:49:06 -0200, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : It is on the app dir on the SD. Am I wrong doing that? Yes, it shoul overwrite the system one, you've to enable rw mount in init.rc. You can install another distro on usd, boot on it to modify init.rc, see some

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
Me too, high-res is all good.. But high-res does NOT preclude the use of Actually, the high-res is one of the highlights of the FR for me. So, while I don't need 280dpi, I wouldn't settle for less than 200dpi for a gadget I hold so close to my eyes. Stefan

Re: [Android] Soft keyboard

2008-11-21 Thread Yann Neveu
Le Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:48:01 -0800 (PST), akurpiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : With new Phone.apk answer is working for me, but I cant end call - power button give me dial keyboard, not previous menu. Yes, just added a hook for the answer, not for the end call :) Anyway, without

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 01:16:36PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: I do not know if it's important, but being restricted to events of the form mouse-1-down, mouse-1-up, and mouse-move is problematic in my experience. Apple has handled that quite nicely for a long time with one button mice. But I

TwitterMoko

2008-11-21 Thread Carlo Minucci
(sorry for my bad english) hi, i write here for announce the first release of TwitterMoko, a simple Twitter client for openmoko you can find here http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/twittermoko/ Hi I'm Carlo Minucci, you may remember me for application like gtkaddpoi or gpsdcontrol... :)

Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Ken Young
Denis Galvao wrote: On 21/11/2008, at 13:20, Ken Young wrote: Really, we don't need a hi res screen on a day by day gadget I could not possibly disagree more strongly. So, give me a reason where you will need that. As long as we have at least a VGA resolution screen, it is relatively easy for

I realy like them

2008-11-21 Thread drac2000
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes :-p -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/I-realy-like-them-tp1563210p1563210.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-21 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:10:00 +0100, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed FSO and I'm quite happy with it : it seems the most reponsive distribution I have yet used. I still have some questions : Addressbook : Is there a way to import a former qtopia sqlite file ? I

Re: I realy like them

2008-11-21 Thread Kosa
lol :D drac2000 escribió: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes :-p ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Lech Karol Pawłaszek
Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote: [...] my experience is different. i didn't try iPhone myself, though. (i refuse to use anything from a company like apple,) but i know two people Well. I have used iPhone for a while. It is indeed quite nice. Easy to learn and fun to use. with iPhones and both

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Persson
OK, let's compare the number of sold units... How many iPhone 2G and 3G have been sold? I figure it's quite a lot... Of course you have to consider what compromises you have to make. What have apple surrendered when they selected the capacitive screen instead of the resistive? What have they

Re: I realy like them

2008-11-21 Thread Tim Dobson
drac2000 wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes :-p That's awesome. I pledge 10,000 imaginary internet lulz to the first person to come up with a *funny* joke where openmoko/the freerunner isn't the butt of the joke.. :) Tim -- www.tdobson.net

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Thorben Krueger
+1 indeed, the screen is about the only thing that truly blows people's minds away atm... 2008/11/21 Ken Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Denis Galvao wrote: On 21/11/2008, at 13:20, Ken Young wrote: Really, we don't need a hi res screen on a day by day gadget I could not possibly disagree more

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Persson
You mean, the only thing that truly blows them away is the resolution of the screen... Which you can have with any type of modern LCD panel, can you not? /Anton On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: +1 indeed, the screen is about the only thing that

Re: I realy like them

2008-11-21 Thread Leonti Bielski
Those are awesome! I'm glad OM users have healthy sense of humor :) Leonti On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Tim Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: drac2000 wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes :-p That's awesome. I pledge 10,000 imaginary internet

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Thorben Krueger
sorry for being imprecise. I was referring to the amazing resolution considering the size of the display. The freerunner got 300 dpi IIRC. For comparison, the iphone only seems to have 160. I usually demo the crispness (if you will) of my neo's screen using top on the terminal at the smallest

Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-21 Thread Steve Mosher
That would be great, especially for guys in the community who want to start a repair business. Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Mo 17. November 2008 schrieb robert lazarski: Hi all, I'm about to buy an openmoko, as I finally have some time and cash. However, my understanding is that the latest

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Leonti Bielski
Big resolution means better image quality. We can run qvga apps on our vga screen, don't we? But how can we run vga apps on qvga screen? VGA screen is a step forward, QVGA is a step backward. For me it's clear. Leonti On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Leonti Bielski
Why do we need capacitive display? We still are not going to solve hanging up during the call - because capacitive screen does it too - the only way to avoid that is by doing it in software. Someone said - it will be a good motivation to make programs more finger-friendly. What I like about

Optimization team update (11/16 ~ 11/22)

2008-11-21 Thread John Lee
Dear community, Not much to say this week. Most of the work we did could be seen by querying docs.openmoko.org with keyword 'Om2008.11' and the commit logs. Overall, Olv pushed his boot time enhancements (#69), so it will be in testing repo. Tick enhanced etk scroll list (#2031) and is working

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Simon Matthews
On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 13:16 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: So if we can't have multi-touch sensitivity, we need some other source of input. It could be buttons on the sides (e.g. I could imagine a phone where you use one hand for the touchscreen while the other hand holds the phone and can

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-21 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/11/21 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graeme seems to be planning to do his xorg version of Xglamo partially in kernelspace to unify the locking, that would be when to do this too. The Glamo's interrupt itself is supported and working, it's the basis for the same waiting strategy (yielding

Re: Is there any kind of network manager?

2008-11-21 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Alastair Johnson wrote: Or you could follow Joel Newkirk's simple lightweight configuration described at http://jthinks.com/better-freerunner-networking About this... Have you tried it? Does it fix the most common network issues? Thanks... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux

Re: Survey about the Touchscreen

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Persson
Hi, I think this is the best argument for the need of a precision stylus yet. However, as I see it, if you make this argument it means that you want a phone that works just like your desktop computer, but which you can carry along easily.. Maybe an EeePC is better suited? The current OpenMoko