Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)

2009-01-14 Thread Torsten Sievers
Hi Arne, On Tuesday 13 January 2009 16:26:00 arne anka wrote: Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; you don't think, there might be reasons? no there aren't any. THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO REASON (to put in pure caps, as you just did) i read the list

Re: Community update

2009-01-14 Thread Fielder George Dowding
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: Minh, On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Minh Ha Duong hadu...@centre-cired.fr wrote: 6. Tips and tricks * Howto get the wrench and QWERTY buttons in 2008.12 with the ASU theme. I followed the instructions,

Re: Community update

2009-01-14 Thread William Kenworthy
Try the links here - this list is from gentoo where its built from source, plus there are freeware packages (I looked at the unrar link) for most operating systems. * app-arch/rar Latest version available: 3.8.0 Latest version installed: 3.8.0 Size of downloaded files: 1,576 kB

Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot

2009-01-14 Thread Fox Mulder
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, January 13, 2009 a las 02:38:45PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribió: Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: only; perhaps there are more o complexer situations cuasing that problem :-( In any case, try compiling linux from andy-tracking branch.

Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot

2009-01-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, January 14, 2009 a las 12:22:02PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribió: Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: the point to start from to create my own Om2008.x kernel and userland or some other/better places to start? Thx I do 1) ssh to a PC with debian unstable.

Re: Community update

2009-01-14 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Fielder George Dowding fgdowd...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies to Christ, that is two l's in Willegen. I hadn't noticed, no offence taken, and my phone now boots with ASU again. Thanks! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Re: shr- GPS howto?

2009-01-14 Thread Helge Hafting
Fernando Martins wrote: No luck: - I've setup date and timezone; - GPS is on, per /sys/class... incantation - demon fso-gpsd is on, checked with ps - telnet comunicates with gpsd but no good data - tangoGPS doesn't find GPS device I have no idea of the reception capabilities of om (or

Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot

2009-01-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: above line ' to wiki under Development_Environment' which let me think that it was truncated, maybe because of a single dot . on a line which terminates SMTP??? just to clarify... Nope, it was complete mail. I have no PC with Debian, but I will

Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot

2009-01-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: the point to start from to create my own Om2008.x kernel and userland or some other/better places to start? Thx I do 1) ssh to a PC with debian unstable. You can easily install it to a chroot with http://iki.fi/lindi/schroot.txt if you don't want to

Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)

2009-01-14 Thread Marcel
Am Tuesday 13 January 2009 22:57:57 schrieb Martin Bernreuther: Hello, Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 schrieb arne anka: I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this PLEASE, STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY AND READ THE ARCHIVES! PLEASE no more READ THE ARCHIVES platitudes!

Re: Function - Plotter for OM,

2009-01-14 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
I tryed to build arm version of gnuplot with mokomakefile, but it doesn't believe that I'm crosscompiling it. ./configure \ --build=i486-linux-gnu \ --host=${TARGET_SYS} \ configure log says: checking whether we are cross compiling... yes But error is: | ./doc2gih: ./doc2gih: cannot execute

Re: Watching videos on neo freerunner (openmoko 2008.12) mplayer-glamo

2009-01-14 Thread kimaidou
Hi +1 for the package in opkg thanks in advance 2009/1/11 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net can someone package this in an opkg? pottwal4 wrote: Hi again. pottwal4 wrote: r...@om-gta02:~# mplayer -vo xover:glamo -fs /media/card/big_buck_bunny_320.avi mplayer doesn't know on

Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot

2009-01-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: With 'debian unstable' you mean perhaps the 'weekly builds' from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ and do I need all 5 DVD or only the first one? There is hardly any point in fetching any DVD images at all. Just use

Re: [om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...

2009-01-14 Thread john dowd
Thanks guys!! On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 john dowd wrote: I've alway been able to backup the kernel partition of my Neo FR but not the jffs2 partition. Here's the error that is reported:

Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot

2009-01-14 Thread arne anka
With 'debian unstable' you mean perhaps the 'weekly builds' from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ and do I need all 5 DVD or only the first one? debian basically exists in three flavours: - stable - testing - unstable (sid == still in development) stable is, as

QT goes LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Espoo, Finland -- Nokia today announced that its Qt cross-platform User Interface (UI) and application framework for desktop and embedded platforms will be available under the Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 2.1 license from the release of Qt 4.5, scheduled for March 2009. Previously,

Re: QT goes LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Jeff Tranter
Yes, this is great news and should greatly accelerate the use of Qt, both on desktop and embedded platforms now that the cost of Qt for most people will be zero even for developing commercial applications. At ICS, as Qt Software's largest consulting partner we are very excited about the new

Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?

2009-01-14 Thread VirtuAlex
Thomas Otterbein wrote: Perhaps a Accelero-Deamon? Applications could register for receiving, probably even already pre-processed, events. And an application could also request exclusive access in which case the others would just not receive further events. So, problem's solved!

Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?

2009-01-14 Thread VirtuAlex
VirtuAlex wrote: the window manager should dispatch accelerator events I meant accelerometer events. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Conflict-when-several-apps-use-the-accelerometers--tp2145087p2157147.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at

Out of date, please update me

2009-01-14 Thread Daniel Spies
Dear community, I am in the list now since before the release of GTA01 and used to read most of the messages. After the release of GTA02 a huge flame war started and after some mails regarding the future of OM I was unsettled and decided to wait for a while. The amount of mail per day increased

Re: QT goes LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Read what Richard Stallman/FSF says about LGPL: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html (But it is Nokias business what license they use) -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-14 Thread Helge Hafting
Helge Hafting wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: - Now you may also configure E, from the wrench, to use the software_16 rendering engine (it causes less quality, but more speed) and a lower framerate value... Where exactly would that be? I tried the wrench, and waded through a

Re: [om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...

2009-01-14 Thread john dowd
Well I tried the NeoTool but it has its limitations. I was going to copy my current configuration to the uSD card as the backup. I tried the wiki page Booting From SD and was going to prepare the uSD card by partitioning it. I then saw that there is an entry: /dev/mmcblk0p1 497920

Dual touch display

2009-01-14 Thread Lothar Behrens
Hi, if not yet posted: I have found a dual touch / multi touch input device for pens and fingers. It may be interesting, if GTA3 design not finished yet. But I don't know about availability :-) http://www.n-trig.com/Default.aspx Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration |

Re: Out of date, please update me

2009-01-14 Thread Daniel Spies
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:02:02 +0100, Daniel Spies daniel.sp...@fuceekay.com wrote: Dear community, I am in the list now since before the release of GTA01 and used to read most of the messages. After the release of GTA02 a huge flame war started and after some mails regarding the future of OM

Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?

2009-01-14 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:40 PM, VirtuAlex virtua...@linuxoid.net wrote: Fully exclusive access is not a solution. It just defeats the purpose of multitasking. Actually I think the window manager should dispatch accelerator events, like it dispatches the mouse events. Only focused application

Re: QT goes LGPL

2009-01-14 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Well if you read your own link you would see that that RMS actually recommend the LGPL in cases like Qt, I quote: The most common case is when a free library's features are readily available for proprietary software through other alternative libraries. In that case, the library cannot give free

Re: [om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...

2009-01-14 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 14 January 2009, john dowd wrote: Well I tried the NeoTool but it has its limitations. I was going to copy my current configuration to the uSD card as the backup. I tried the wiki page Booting From SD and was going to prepare the uSD card by partitioning it. I then saw that there

Re: [fso]is there any way to accesswifi eitherthrough the ui? the shell?

2009-01-14 Thread Jakob
regarding browsers i prefer minimo http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimo it has a quite nice interface ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: buzz fix

2009-01-14 Thread KaZeR
-Message d'origine- [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Christoph Pulster Envoyé : mardi 13 janvier 2009 08:20 À : community@lists.openmoko.org Objet : Re: buzz fix Hello, thanks for asking about hardware fixes (I read this list daily). At the

Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?

2009-01-14 Thread Thomas Otterbein
Fully exclusive access is not a solution. It just defeats the purpose of multitasking. Actually I think the window manager should dispatch accelerator events, like it dispatches the mouse events. Only focused Okay, that's basically what I meant with deamon. A piece of software that's

[Freerunner] Access GPS chip's parameters and navigational models?

2009-01-14 Thread Olivier Migeot
Hi ev'ryone, I'm currently experimenting things with the Antaris chip, and I'm starting to like it - at least through FSO and it's gpsd compatibility layer. I've been browsing through the UBX protocol specification, and I stumbled upon one interesting parameter : the dynamic platform model of the

Re: [Freerunner] Access GPS chip's parameters and navigational models?

2009-01-14 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 14 January 2009, Olivier Migeot wrote: I guess I should shut down FSO's GPS handling first, but how? Is stopping fso-gpsd enough? (I tried, but it didn't seem better) Any insights, somebody? Thanks. Disable ogpsd in /etc/frameworkd.conf by adding 'disable = 1' to the [ogpsd]

Re: [Freerunner] Access GPS chip's parameters and navigational models?

2009-01-14 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: Disable ogpsd in /etc/frameworkd.conf by adding 'disable = 1' to the [ogpsd] section, then restart frameworkd nicely: Whoa, that was quick, thank you. That'll be ok for some testing, but I sure wouldn't want to

Re: [Freerunner] Access GPS chip's parameters and navigational models?

2009-01-14 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 14 January 2009, Olivier Migeot wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: Disable ogpsd in /etc/frameworkd.conf by adding 'disable = 1' to the [ogpsd] section, then restart frameworkd nicely: Whoa, that was quick, thank you.

Re: [no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?

2009-01-14 Thread Gothnet
john dowd wrote: I've been using minicom but its a disaster. Unless some has settings that they would like to share. Cheers!! -- John Dowd jdowd at slashdevslashnull dot org Search the wiki for a program called

Re: [fso]is there any way to accesswifi eitherthrough the ui? the shell?

2009-01-14 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/15 Jakob jackram...@googlemail.com: regarding browsers i prefer minimo http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimo it has a quite nice interface second that dillo has problems with ssl, and midori is awful - menus and so on weren't set up for a small screen, at least in the package i tried

Re: [Freerunner] Access GPS chip's parameters and navigational models?

2009-01-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop Hmm, why is stopping X server necessary? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?

2009-01-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
john dowd jdowds...@gmail.com writes: I've been using minicom but its a disaster. Unless some has settings that they would like to share. picocom /dev/ttyACM0 under screen with ^a : slowpaste set to 20 ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?

2009-01-14 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:38:30 -0800 (PST) Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net wrote: john dowd wrote: I've been using minicom but its a disaster. Unless some has settings that they would like to share. [...] Search the wiki for a program called neocon, that seemed to work for me.

[zomg] imporant

2009-01-14 Thread Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster
if you are using ZOMG! please update. there was a really bad bug in prior version which could break you feeds - dont't panic it is reversible. just check opkg.org or the wiki page for more info ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?

2009-01-14 Thread john dowd
Well, I tried Neocon, whenever I press a key I just get the message [closed] printed out for every key and no joy talking to the device. Is there a console program out there that works right now and that people are using to communicate with the Neo Freerunner? On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:48 PM,

Re: [no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?

2009-01-14 Thread john dowd
OK, it was a integration problem between the keyboard and my chair. I ran it as root and voila it works. Thanks everyone who responded. Cheers!! On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:08 PM, john dowd jdowds...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I tried Neocon, whenever I press a key I just get the message [closed]

Re: [Freerunner] Access GPS chip's parameters and navigational models?

2009-01-14 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 14 January 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop Hmm, why is stopping X server necessary? Apps using frameworkd can get upset if you restart frameworkd while they are running. This would include zhone,

Re: [no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?

2009-01-14 Thread Al Johnson
I just use minicom, connect to /dev/ttyACM0 and enable line wrap. If you could be more specific about what's wrong then perhaps I could help. On Wednesday 14 January 2009, john dowd wrote: Well, I tried Neocon, whenever I press a key I just get the message [closed] printed out for every key

Re: [no distro] What console s/w are linux people using to communicate with the Neo FR boot loader?

2009-01-14 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/14 john dowd jdowds...@gmail.com: OK, it was a integration problem between the keyboard and my chair. :-) I haven't heard that one before! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [Hackable:1] trouble booting

2009-01-14 Thread Tha_Man
Greg Bonett wrote: Hi, I'm having some trouble booting hackable:1. I downloaded the tar balls and extracted them to fat and ext2 partitions on a 2GB micro sd card. I then tried to boot using the NOR uboot. It gets stuck after the message: s3c2410_udc: debugfs dir creation failed -19

Roll The Dice

2009-01-14 Thread kris Occhipinti
I wrote this Dice Rolling Application in Python for the FreeRunner I've tested it on both om2008.9 and Hackable1 Just shake the phone and it rolls 2 dice using random numbers. you can download it at http://filmsbykris.com/freerunner-debian/ko-user/ko-dice.tar.gz Once untared you will see where

Re: Roll The Dice

2009-01-14 Thread The Digital Pioneer
4 stars. I just tested it on SHR, and it works with exception to one thing: it doesn't close. The exit button doesn't work, and using Illume's close button on it makes it lock up. Have to kill it. I'd love to see a game like Zilch (on Kongregate) put on the FR, which also rolls the dice by

Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-14 Thread Eldon Koyle
On Jan 13 12:25-0700, Eldon Koyle wrote: I was looking at this once and I think the problem might be that pppd closes the device and re-opens it before reconnecting, and the mux device is no longer usable once it has been closed. I didn't verify this, but it seemed logical to me ;). I

GPSDproxy: send GPS data from gpsd to a remote server

2009-01-14 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
Hi, I released a little software to proxy GPS data read from gpsd to a remote server. I use it to store my live track on a Postgres database (running on my home server) via GPRS connection. The software is hosted here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpsdproxy/ This is the announce: This is

Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail

2009-01-14 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:53:16PM -0700, Eldon Koyle wrote: If you have the 'persist' option in /etc/ppp/peers/connection name, pppd will reconnect after errors. To reconnect, it closes the device then reopens it. With gsm0710muxd, when /dev/pts/N gets closed it is deallocated. Then,

Re: GPSDproxy: send GPS data from gpsd to a remote server

2009-01-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Niccolo Rigacci nicc...@rigacci.org writes: I released a little software to proxy GPS data read from gpsd to a remote server. I use it to store my live track on a Postgres database (running on my home server) via GPRS connection. Interesting idea. I looked around the code: /* Fork into

Re: [0m2008-9] Trying to partition the uSD card but unable to umount the partition that has been created

2009-01-14 Thread W.Kenworthy
lsof will tell you that qtopia uses the file. Stop the xserver and it should free up. By the way, it would be worth your while to read up on the qtopia indexing problem which the sqlite file is a result. BillK On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 11:22 -0500, john dowd wrote: Would anyone know which

Re: [Freerunner] Access GPS chip's parameters and navigational models?

2009-01-14 Thread W.Kenworthy
because the qtopia indexing stops with it ... Its probably possible to just stop the app doing the indexing (mediaserver I think), but I am not sure if it would create problems to knock out a low level part of qtopia or not. An alternative is to change the config so on the next boot, it wont

Re: Roll The Dice

2009-01-14 Thread The Digital Pioneer
OK, to any who are interested, I have made some modifications to the python script to make it not shake as easily (I was having a lot of accidental shakes). Now it has to be shaken twice within 3 seconds to actually roll the dice. It may not be pretty, but it works. :) My modded ko-dice is here:

Illume finger scrolling probs

2009-01-14 Thread Joel Newkirk
all distros I've tested. (2008.x, FSO, SHR) Selecting the Illume (or Illume-SHR, or my in-development 'Serenity' based off Illume) theme instead of ASU causes finger scrolling to be almost unbearably slow. WHY? Also, a bug: I usually have icon size set to 'very large' for the launcher,

Re: Illume finger scrolling probs

2009-01-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:28:18 -0500 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us babbled: all distros I've tested. (2008.x, FSO, SHR) Selecting the Illume (or Illume-SHR, or my in-development 'Serenity' based off Illume) theme instead of ASU causes finger scrolling to be almost unbearably slow.

Re: Roll The Dice

2009-01-14 Thread Alex Tsui
Kind of cool, I fetched it to check out the code. I tried it with om2008.12, after installing pygtk etc. I ran the program, but shaking the phone gets no response. Only touching the screen starts it off vibrating. I also tried the modified ko-dice with same result. I think the shakes are not

Re: Illume finger scrolling probs

2009-01-14 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:35:22 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:28:18 -0500 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us babbled: all distros I've tested. (2008.x, FSO, SHR) Selecting the Illume (or Illume-SHR, or my in-development 'Serenity'

Re: Illume finger scrolling probs

2009-01-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:56:28 -0500 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us babbled: On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:35:22 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:28:18 -0500 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us babbled: all distros I've tested.

FSO unstable upgrade errors alsa-states and initscripts-openmoko

2009-01-14 Thread qhaz
Upgrading from http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-unstable/images/om-gta02/ repos I get the following errors. Downloading http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-unstable/feeds/om-gta02/task-boot_1.0-r46_om-gta02.ipk Installing initscripts-openmoko (1.0-r0) to root... Configuring zhone