On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:49 AM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi,
Well, here's the latest release.
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3480288/launcher_0.30_arm.ipk
launcher_0.30_arm.ipk
I guess this is a feature request. How hard would it be to optionally allow
finger swiping from category to
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 08:28:51PM -0500, c_c wrote:
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
My veredict: not yet ready for reliable use, but much better than
illume-launcher
feature-wise :)
Can you tell me the problems you faced?
One is quite predictable: it's still way too slow on launch.
Dear all,
maybe, another perspective here from an apps developer's point of view:
I do believe, that we need a proper / nice directory of applications, which
users may browse through. I am aware of the following repositories right now:
- openmoko wiki - applications (I think, it is a good
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We are planning a buzz fix for FRs in India. As Rakshat has already
Do you pplan it on any particular date? IMHO it is worth to put it into
CU, but need date details also.
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My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks
someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo.
And that's all.
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On Friday 21 August 2009 06:21:52 Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
Not really. Reloading (in the worst case) 128MB from an SD is not exactly
fast either.
The only sane way to substantially improve booting time is to stop
booting like a desktop PC, that is move away from starting all services
On Thursday, 20th of August 2009 14:04:49 UTC Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks
someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo.
And that's all.
That's a great idea. But there has to be some way for a distro
Dnia 2009-08-20, czw o godzinie 16:46 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa pisze:
Hi there!
ABSTRACT
I think a new showroom for community created application is needed to
I think instead of creating new showroom it is better to improve
existing ones.
boost the development and help users to get to know new
On 8/21/09, Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de wrote:
For the packaging issue - I really like the idea of boosting the process to
integrate into reps / distributions. (this would btw. ease the process of
installation).
However, documentation on how to do this is really rare. One could
On 8/21/09, Fabian Henze cc@gmx.de wrote:
On Thursday, 20th of August 2009 14:04:49 UTC Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks
someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo.
And that's all.
That's a great idea.
My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks
someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo.
And that's all.
I agree, however after going through all the development pages in a wiki. The
steps involved in creating an application and making a *.bb file
shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org
This maillist has patchwork on top of it on
http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/
I think that's enough.
maybe you haven't heard yet -- but not everybody uses shr.
and since the subject clearly states ALL, i don't really see what makes
you so adamant about
Hi,
Am 21.08.2009 06:17, schrieb c_c:
Well, thats one issue. Could you copy all the icons from
/usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps to /usr/share/pixmaps ?
cd /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps
for i in *; do
if [ ! -f /usr/share/pixmaps/$i ]
then ln -s /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/$i \
On 8/21/09, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org
This maillist has patchwork on top of it on
http://patchwork.dev.bearstech.com/
I think that's enough.
maybe you haven't heard yet -- but not everybody uses shr.
and since the subject clearly states ALL, i
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Michael Pilgermannkichka...@gmx.de wrote:
Dear all,
maybe, another perspective here from an apps developer's point of view:
I do believe, that we need a proper / nice directory of applications, which
users may browse through. I am aware of the following
Maybe you don't know, but SHR is based on OpenEmbedded, so every
Openmoko OE based distro can benefit from bb files in SHR (and after
commiting our work to org.openembedded.dev not only Openmoko distros
will be able to use that).
ok, i try again: not every distribution used on the fr is based
On 8/20/09, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
err, which version? - I did a make update, built and upgraded yesterday
(shr-u) and its not there (though the new pin dialog is - Yeah!)
or is it only visible on a non-gta02 battery?
BillK
It's only visible when you have smart battery
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:
ABSTRACT
I think a new showroom for community created application is needed to
I think instead of creating new showroom it is better to improve
existing ones.
boost the development and help users to get to know new
On 8/21/09, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
Maybe you don't know, but SHR is based on OpenEmbedded, so every
Openmoko OE based distro can benefit from bb files in SHR (and after
commiting our work to org.openembedded.dev not only Openmoko distros
will be able to use that).
ok, i try
On 8/21/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
Regardless of the above, we should not compare Ubuntu/Debian
repositories with opkg.org, simply because opkg is not repository.
Not? See http://www.opkg.org/packages ...
It is, but it really shouldn't be and that repo just sucks.
So what? Then such showroom should have Android, OpenWrt, Qtopia,
OE, Gentoo, Debian, Arch... and other versions of packages for one
Ok, so we can't talk about any distro here, cause it isn't Android
centric? I can't recommend Debian for someone here, cause it's not
Debian centric? Be
Arne Sebastian, let's try to cool down.
Sebastian: if you don't agree that something like this is needed,
fine, thanks for letting us know, now would you please let us to work
on it if we want.
Android already has it's own showroom (as pointed out in the original
mail). So does QT extended:
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks
someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo.
And that's all.
That's distro maintainers who should do packages, not app developers!
When app developers do packaging,
On 8/21/09, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote:
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
My opinion is simple. Developer of app provides bb file (or asks
someone to write it) and then all distros provide that app in repo.
And that's all.
That's distro maintainers who should do packages, not app
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:13:04PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
- Still I think there's a need for a platform to promote ~working
apps in an appealing way.
Yes that's true and I think that opkg.org is doing just that.
Only few small parts are missing.
1) Use it rather as nice showroom, not
2009/8/21 Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com
IMHO only few improvements of opkg.org are needed..
I agree. And since the opkg.org source code is available, we can add those
improvements, fix the few bugs, and put it somewhere like
www.openmoko.org/showroom (if we don't manage to contact
On 8/21/09, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:13:04PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
- Still I think there's a need for a platform to promote ~working
apps in an appealing way.
Yes that's true and I think that opkg.org is doing just that.
Only few small
On 8/21/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote:
I have one idea: how do you want to catch up with library changes
(...)
STFU, s/idea/question/. It's still a little bit too early for me :x
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Just an idea, why not use the bb file and source files as README,
INSTALL, Changelog, and .desktop files if exist as source for this
showroom?
bb files has a DESCRIPTION field that can be a little wikified (==, *,
) to have a bare minimum presentation card and can be enriched with
the other files
On 8/21/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote:
Just an idea, why not use the bb file and source files as README,
INSTALL, Changelog, and .desktop files if exist as source for this
showroom?
bb files has a DESCRIPTION field that can be a little wikified (==, *,
) to have a
Hi,
as there are some notable differences between navit from SHR[1] and navit
directly [2]. Does someone know how the navit binary from [2] is built? Maybe
advantages can be merged?
Navit version from [1] is 0.1.0+svnrev2309-r3 from [2] is svn-2511
differences I noticed so far:
[1]:
honours
Sounds like a good idea. But don't forget other features that people demand.
Voting, popularity ranks, comments, testing reports on various distros, etc.
We need a website in my opinion.
2009/8/21 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com
Just an idea, why not use the bb file and source
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Sebastian
Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/21/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote:
Just an idea, why not use the bb file and source files as README,
INSTALL, Changelog, and .desktop files if exist as source for this
showroom?
I dont think its a good idea to have the app showroom just browse a
distribution repository.
However, ...
If the showroom is made so that it uses bb files etc, to get the application
information. Then getting your application into the showroom would also imply
that it gets into the
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It does not look good! Wiki is a nice idea, freely editable for
everyone - but it just doesn't work for all purposes.
Such a showroom doesn't need to look fancy - it has to be informative!
Something like:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/ploldid=40837
is nice enough for
2009/8/21 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm:
Sounds like a good idea. But don't forget other features that people demand.
Voting, popularity ranks, comments, testing reports on various distros, etc.
We need a website in my opinion.
Nothing stops a frontend to add features to the basic showing
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:59:30AM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
On 8/21/09, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:13:04PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
- Still I think there's a need for a platform to promote ~working
apps in an appealing way.
Yes
[cut]
So what? Then such showroom should have Android, OpenWrt, Qtopia,
OE, Gentoo, Debian, Arch... and other versions of packages for one
app? Who'll package it then? Application developer? Showroom
maintainer? Please be serious...
and that is exactly why Showroom should be showroom only -
On 8/21/09, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:
Official Openmoko distributions are Om2009 and SHR (as now it's
Really? I have just checked here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions#Official_Openmoko_releases
and SHR is not listed as official. Should it be updated?
Openmoko
2009/8/21 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi:
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Sebastian
Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/21/09, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote:
Just an idea, why not use the bb file and source files as README,
INSTALL, Changelog, and .desktop
Dnia 21 sierpnia 2009 7:33 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz napisał(a):
Do You know why bluetooth couldn't be enabled by btsettings ?
I mean checkbox m_powerCheckBox is checked but Options are disabled.
This is bug in version v6. Thanks for finding it out. I tried to speedup
phone start by
hi all,
i've been trying out osm2go recently on the freerunner, for offline
editing. has anyone else had a go with it? there are ipk packages and
deps at the links below. problem is, i get a segfault whenever i try
to load a project. also, i'm getting the following python error on
start:
Using
Opkg.org seems to be owned by the author so if the author is not
co-operative (cannot be reached, doesn't answer e-mails or jabber)
there's not much we or OM can do about it.
Summa summarum:
* Looks like there are people around who support the idea of showroom.
* Showroom, not a repository
*
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes:
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup()
without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
That's a warning, not error. Just ignore it for now.
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Datum: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:25:25 +0300
Von: Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi
An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
Betreff: Re: [ALL] New showroom for Openmoko apps
Opkg.org seems to be owned by the author so if the
Funnily enough, I was just thinking about posting about something very
similar to this a couple of days ago...
I definitely agree that opkg.org is broken in many ways, and impossible to
fix atm. And I think some kind of application database is very important.
The model I was thinking about was
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 03:25:25PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
Opkg.org seems to be owned by the author so if the author is not
co-operative (cannot be reached, doesn't answer e-mails or jabber)
there's not much we or OM can do about it.
Have any of these physical contacts been tried?
We
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 01:46:05PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 03:25:25PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
Opkg.org seems to be owned by the author so if the author is not
co-operative (cannot be reached, doesn't answer e-mails or jabber)
there's not much we
Frankly, I'm not that fond of the name opkg.org...
As I said, I'd rather have some kind of an application database - something
that explicitly *does not* provide opkg files.
Maybe we should get something like frappdb.org or something like that?
Warren
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Rui
On 8/21/09, Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de wrote:
* Also create a client for FR to search install apps
(+) low prio
I would change this one into * Integrate SHR Installer with showroom
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Warren
Bairdwjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
Funnily enough, I was just thinking about posting about something very
similar to this a couple of days ago...
So there are more of us who want something like this and are not happy
with the current solution. Good
On 8/21/09, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
I'm not sure about tying it directly to the bb files - it's not clear to me
that the formating and information appropriate for a web-based db is the
same as what you'd want in a bb file...
Well, list of packages would be done by
I like that idea. :)
We could combine both approaches - a showroom for apps (making the Hall
of Fame on the wiki obsolete which is kinda hard to keep up to date...)
with possibility to comment on different
app-distro-whatever-combinations. We could even consider having
different kinds of hardware
rusolis wrote:
I hope you have fun
Ok... I use litephone as dailyphone since 2 weeks now and I really love it!
:)
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:10:05PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
Rui: well done trying to call!
:)
And I also agree that the name opkg.org is not the best one as opk is
used in other platforms and other formats are used on FR too..
Ok, so maybe we'll just let opkg.org die then.
I think
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Maybe we should get something like frappdb.org or something like that?
I like it :)
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I had a closer look at apt-portal at https://launchpad.net/apt-portal
To me this sounds like exactly something we're looking for:
-
APT-Portal is a web content management system that retrieves
information from a Debian APT repository and presents an application
list on a user
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:01:53 pm Thomas White wrote:
It's important to note that, at this stage, the work is less about
performance and more about laying a solid basis for DRI [1].
I don't know if it's of interest, but Michael Trimarchi who does the Panicking
port of Android to the FreeRunner
Yeah, that makes sense - using the bb info if there's nothing else - maybe
we just initially populate the frappdb from the bb files...
Hmm. On the other hand, if someone writes a more detailed description on
frappdb, should that description get pushed back into the bb files?
Warren
On Fri,
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
On Friday 21 August 2009 06:21:52 Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
Not really. Reloading (in the worst case) 128MB from an SD is not exactly
fast either.
The only sane way to substantially improve booting time is to stop
booting like a desktop PC, that is move away from
Patryk Benderz wrote:
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DAEMON_OPTS=-S localhost:gpsd -P $PIDFILE
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ fso-gpsd -?
[...]
-S integer (default 2947) Set port for daemon
[...]
so you could provide just -S gpsd so daemon listen an all IPs...
Could that be the default configuration?
A laptop display is
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote:
Could that be the default configuration?
That would also listen on ppp0. Which could be problematic if - dunno
if many operators do that - its IP is directly reachable from the Wild
(i.e. anybody could be able to know
On Friday 21 August 2009 16:36:07 Helge Hafting wrote:
Now, implement suspend-to-disk (SD-card), and you can start
reasonably quick after changing the battery.
It should take around 40 seconds to read the memory back from SD, so if you
can live with that, implementing suspend-to-disk might be
On Friday 21 August 2009, c_c wrote:
Hi,
Going to a different geographical location gives me the location string
of the new cell for the first time. But, re-starting launcher doesn't.
Something to do with the calypso?
Or the cell tower. Have you tried unregistering then reregistering, or
On Friday 21 August 2009, Olivier Migeot wrote:
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote:
Could that be the default configuration?
That would also listen on ppp0. Which could be problematic if - dunno
if many operators do that - its IP is directly reachable
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
The only sane way to substantially improve booting time is to stop booting
like a desktop PC, that is move away from starting all services just because
you can. Start them on demand and bring only the bare necessities up on boot
(filesystems, dbus, X).
Yes,
2009/8/21 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi:
I had a closer look at apt-portal at https://launchpad.net/apt-portal
snip
Tried to istall on Ubuntu 8.10 machine with this instructuions[1] but
fails on running the scripts
Seems to need Jaunty to work out of the box, I will try to install
Jaunt in some
Hi Tom,
It's nice to know that you're still working on this [1]. I had a bit
of a 'break' after I moved back to Germany and got back into my msc
program. Things are naturally quite busy because I'm still working
remotely at my engineering job in Canada, so it wasn't really that
much of a break in
On Friday 21 August 2009, Nathan Kinkade wrote:
I'm running SHR unstable. A number of days ago I decided to try to
turning ti_calypso_deep_sleep to adaptive to see what would happen.
Everything *seems* okay, and though I haven't done any formal test of
battery life some anecdotal evidence
Hi all,
today i did the rework for bug #1024 to my freerunner. First i tried to
remove C1009 and replace it with a 22µF capacitor but i had no luck
getting it off the board with my tools. Maybe it was glued to good and i
have no smd tweezer iron to heat up both ends of C1009 at the same time.
So
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
On Friday 21 August 2009 16:36:07 Helge Hafting wrote:
Now, implement suspend-to-disk (SD-card), and you can start
reasonably quick after changing the battery.
It should take around 40 seconds to read the memory back from SD, so if
you
can live with that,
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:01 PM, David Reyes Samblas
Martinezda...@tuxbrain.com wrote:
2009/8/21 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi:
I had a closer look at apt-portal at https://launchpad.net/apt-portal
snip
Tried to istall on Ubuntu 8.10 machine with this instructuions[1] but
fails on running
On 8/21/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:01 PM, David Reyes Samblas
Martinezda...@tuxbrain.com wrote:
2009/8/21 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi:
I had a closer look at apt-portal at https://launchpad.net/apt-portal
snip
Tried to istall on Ubuntu 8.10
2009/8/21 Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name
Remember, there is almost absolutely no use case for total shutoff and
suspend to 'Disk' since you want your GSM to stay on line on suspend. And
for that everything but past resume from RAM is useless.
There are many use cases if you're on battery
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote:
2009/8/21 Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name
Remember, there is almost absolutely no use case for total shutoff and
suspend to 'Disk' since you want your GSM to stay on line on suspend. And
for that everything but past
On 21 Aug 2009, at 18:10, Edder wrote:
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Michal
Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote:
2009/8/21 Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name
Remember, there is almost absolutely no use case for total shutoff
and
suspend to 'Disk' since you want your GSM to stay on
On Friday 21 August 2009, Fox Mulder wrote:
Now i only need a reliable testcase where i can see if the rework helped
or not. Is there any scenario i can try to find out if #1024 is fixed or
not?
Good to see the pics. All I can suggest is to enable deep sleep, enable
logging to file on SD, and
today i did the rework for bug #1024 to my freerunner. First i tried to
remove C1009 and replace it with a 22µF capacitor but i had no luck
getting it off the board with my tools. Maybe it was glued to good and i
have no smd tweezer iron to heat up both ends of C1009 at the same time.
So i
On Friday 21 August 2009 18:13:14 Tilman Baumann wrote:
Booting after init still takes ages. I don't know, but it seems to be a IO
throughput problem rather then CPU speed.
We're just doing too much at this stage.
What I would wish for is quicker GSM login. I think have the latest
firmware,
Do you pplan it on any particular date? IMHO it is worth to put it into
CU, but need date details also.
We haven't yet decided on the dates. In fact we were trying to figure
out if we can do #1024 and bass fix as well alongwith buzz fix. I have
been neck-deep in work this week and i think same
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Vikas Saurabhvikas.saur...@gmail.com wrote:
Then we would call for the FR from outside Delhi (I know only 2 up
till now...chetan and alok...both, i guess, in bangalore) and then get
them for fix. I thought sending the FRs is a far bigger problem than
actually
2009/8/21 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com:
On 8/21/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:01 PM, David Reyes Samblas
Martinezda...@tuxbrain.com wrote:
2009/8/21 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi:
I had a closer look at apt-portal at
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:49:09 am Christopher Friedt wrote:
I've since become a bit fixated with Android Donut on my FreeRunner,
and am just about finished building an ARMv4T generic version of Donut
(hopefully everything links ok without relocations!). Next I'll have
to try to integrate a
AFAIK, Michael still hasn't published his changes in a public repository.
To improve the speed of the Koolu build, see the patch in this email:
http://android.koolu.org/pipermail/android-freerunner-koolu.org/2009-July/001149.html
Jim
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Chris
Hi guys,
I am new to this community. I am a software developer from india.
Would anybody suggest how to begin with.
What are the technologies and programming languages I have to know to
contribute in this project?
Anybody from India in this group?
Regards,
Soumik.
Hi,
Al Johnson wrote:
On Friday 21 August 2009, c_c wrote:
Have you tried unregistering then reregistering, or
shutting down then restarting the GSM module?
Both do the trick. It seems as if this service is really optimised. Data
is sent only on registration. I guess I'll have to keep
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