Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

2007-01-24 Thread Ben Burdette
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Wednesday 24 January 2007 12:33, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 1/24/07 11:41 AM, kkr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know more about price and precision of the accelerometers's chips on the market now? About US$3. Are they good enough to twice

Silent mode timeout

2007-01-29 Thread Ben Burdette
A simple feature that I'd like to see is a silent mode timeout. What always happens with my current phone is I set it to silent mode because I'm in a movie or a meeting, and then later I forget to turn the ringer back on. This leads to a lot of missed calls. You could have a default timeout

Re: T-Mobile finagling advice?

2007-02-07 Thread Ben Burdette
If you are in the UK, Tescos do a cheap pay as you go SIM; http://www.tesco.com/mobilenetwork/shop/?page=simcards Maybe WalMart do the same in the US? There are various pay-as-you-go services in the US. $20 (10UKP) will buy you a GSM cellphone and 60 minutes of talk time (With no ID or

Re: T-Mobile finagling advice?

2007-02-10 Thread Ben Burdette
Unfortunatly, It looks to me like T-Mobile is currently not interested in letting its pre-paid customers use GPRS to go anywhere outside their Silly T-Zones walled garden. Let me guess. This contains such things as weather reports, news headlines, ringtones, ... All available for a

Re: Can OpenMoko Make Coffee? - SoC Project Proposal

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Burdette
I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of electronic devices. My

Re: Gestures and Unicode Input

2007-03-22 Thread Ben Burdette
I don't want to discourage you guys, I'm all for developing a motion recognition system. It would be cool for using with a speakerphone output to spell words when you don't want to look at the screen. Using gestures to navigate an audio based UI would be great for the blind too. But for

Re: information efficient text enty using dasher

2007-05-29 Thread Ben Burdette
Dasher is only really information efficient considering the input only. The output stream needs to be quite dense. This pretty much means that you have to stare at the display all the time when inputting text. Sure - in theory, dasher may approach arithmetic coding in terms of information

Re: gmail.com problems and this list

2007-07-07 Thread Ben Burdette
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Ryan Prior writes: Are my emails getting sent twice somehow? I'm using gmail, but have not noticed any duplication or errors. Have you been noticing duplicates from other people? I haven't noticed whether you've got one of the repeating messages (it isn't twice

Re: Let's get some digging done!

2007-07-08 Thread Ben Burdette
Do we really want this to be dugg? 1. Its not an end-user phone. The average digg user who gets this phone might be suprized and disappointed. 2. Is there already enough demand for the existing phones from the developers and interested parties who know about it? If there is, i say let that

Re: Not the free phone

2007-07-17 Thread Ben Burdette
Great video! the OFone, which way is up on this thing? I'd rather not go with oPhone, it sounds derivative of the iPhone. Like the openmoko phone is a cheap wannabe iPhone. I don't people to have that impression. What about a nice industrial-style alphanumeric designation - like the 'FIC

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Ben Burdette
Rather than alienate one group over the other, why not have something for both? A non camera version for those who don't need the feature as well as a camera version with the exact same specs for those who can't live without it? I mean, why have a chip with camera support if there are no

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread Ben Burdette
Maybe you're right, and the whole point is here: mailing lists are for geeks and forums are for all other people. We should then have a web based forum. Are you sure ? I find personally a mailing is much easier. You get the messages with your regular mail, you can sort them to a

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Ben Burdette
Jay Vaughan wrote: On Jul 24, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Daniel Robinson wrote: The goal is communication, not rightness. How is communication best served? duh, use both mailing lists and forums. any new forum post - new post to the list. and vice versa. That was my thought too. Anyone

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Ben Burdette
A gateway would not work. Forums and mailing lists are two quite different means of communication. In a forum you can edit things, move them, delete them. Also, discussing in a flat view doesn't only look different, it works differently. Also, if you connect both, you get all the trash

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-16 Thread Ben Burdette
Nick Johnson wrote: On 8/16/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Aug 2007, at 00:07, Nick Johnson wrote: The list server is clearly the issue here, failing to accept messages in a timely fashion. It's only affecting GMail messages. I believe people with

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-16 Thread Ben Burdette
Karsten Ensinger wrote: Maybe you should switch to this (or improve your configuration): https://removedupes.mozdev.org/ I use this extension to thunderbird with success. The suggestion of the extension seems to contain some smart algorithms. The already read messages are preselected for keep

Re: At the risk of being flamed : State of software

2007-08-25 Thread Ben Burdette
For me LGPL is proper license for such device. It allows to write free applications which will use any license (all those hackers which you listed) AND it allows to write commercial stuff. But after you add closed source software, the phone is not totally free anymore. Don't you see

Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors

2007-09-07 Thread Ben Burdette
The iPhone killer, competitor, or comparisons you have been describing - to me - should not be done against the neo. I happen to think that the neo is indeed an anti-iphone. Unfortunately a lot of people confuse this position with the idea that the neo is an iPhone killer - something

Re: The problem with touch screens

2007-09-11 Thread Ben Burdette
Giles Jones wrote: On 11 Sep 2007, at 18:11, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: I once tried a mouse with tactile feedback (built-in vibrator). I could actually feel the buttons I hovered the cursor over as being embossed; it felt like moving the mouse over a non-flat relief rather than simply

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-25 Thread Ben Burdette
It may be worth mentioning that D also works well with straight C libs, but can't interface directly with C++. Its in the same league as C++ in terms of speed, while arguably being more elegant. I haven't worked with scheme since the 80's, in my intro to programming course! I'll have to

Re: UI responsiveness, Hope its not like new Blackberry

2007-10-03 Thread Ben Burdette
That's really sad. One of the real strengths of the old versions of PalmOS (and the applications developed for it) was that interaction was instantaneous -- in almost all cases, what you wanted happened right away, and in the few exceptions, you were notified immediately that the app had

Re: No Camera???

2007-10-06 Thread Ben Burdette
So ultimately i think not having a camera might diminish the market, but won't doom the phone. --clayton I have to agree. I personally would like a camera, and if I knew there would be a neo coming out with one in the near future I might even wait for it. But I don't think this will

Re: November 26, 2007 Community Update

2007-11-26 Thread Ben Burdette
Thanks for the update! I'm relieved to hear that 850mhz is not a dead duck. I'm keeping my hopes up for an 850 capable gta02. Ben Burdette ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Michael Shiloh interview on The Linux Link Tech Show

2007-11-29 Thread Ben Burdette
Patrick Davila wrote: Michael was gracious enough to come on our show and talk about the great work you guys are doing: http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.ogg http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.mp3 Enjoy I was relieved to hear that 850 mhz seems to be a sure thing -

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-08 Thread Ben Burdette
Check out the Dasher text input system. http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ It is a text input sytem that uses 2 axis analog inputs, like a mouse, joystick, or tilt sensor. Its very noise resistant, good for people with muscle control problems. As long as you don't have to tilt so

Re: What to use while waiting of v2?

2007-12-17 Thread Ben Burdette
Ben wrote: I can't hold out any longer. I need a PDA that will work as reliably as possble, have a few options for easy automatic sync (with Mac or Linux) or at least automatic backup. I will be using it to implement GTD (Getting Things Done). Phone not essential. I don't need it to be open,

Re: What to use while waiting of v2?

2007-12-17 Thread Ben Burdette
Ben wrote: I can't hold out any longer. I need a PDA that will work as reliably as possble, have a few options for easy automatic sync (with Mac or Linux) or at least automatic backup. I will be using it to implement GTD (Getting Things Done). Phone not essential. I don't need it to be open,

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Ben Burdette
great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built My company gets aluminum sensor boxes made on a regular basis. They are pretty comparable to the neo case in complexity, and I think we could get them made for about 200$ each in a batch of 30-40

Re: Multilanguage Text-To-Speech

2008-01-21 Thread Ben Burdette
Gilles Casse wrote: Hello, FYI, mokoTTS 0.05 has just been released. Awesome, looking forward to listening to project gutenberg files in the car... didn't know this was already under construction. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: More about the GTA02

2008-02-06 Thread Ben Burdette
So what is it that is different from the old spec? Is it just the 850 mhz version? Christopher Earl wrote: the specs have changed (very slightly) * Atheros 802.11 b/g WiFi * Samsung S3C2442 B54 SoC @ 400Mhz * SMedia Glamo3362 Graphics Accelerator * 2x ST 3D Accelerometers * 256MB Flash *

Re: More about the GTA02

2008-02-06 Thread Ben Burdette
Earl wrote: I said very slightly Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/08 11:57 AM So what is it that is different from the old spec? Is it just the 850 mhz version? Christopher Earl wrote: the specs have changed (very slightly) * Atheros 802.11 b/g WiFi * Samsung S3C2442 B54

Re: Multi-touch: Many questions to one desire....

2008-03-04 Thread Ben Burdette
Federico wrote: So... where are those usecases that apply to a phone? maybe pressing the shift key for typing uppercase letters :P Or other chording based text entry schemes... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Need a Cellphone now...

2008-03-10 Thread Ben Burdette
Why not get a bottom-of-the-line phone from T-Mobile or some other GSM carrier? It will have the making and receiving calls feature and then you can use the sim in the freerunner when it is available in a month or two. Daniel Spies wrote: Hi list! I wonder if it's possible to run Openmoko

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-15 Thread Ben Burdette
JW wrote: On 14/03/2008, Tom Cooksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.telecoms.com/itmgcontent/tcoms/news/articles/20017514053.html Please, PLEASE tell me this is not true? Or at least it's the consumer version that's delayed? Is this just not sowing seeds of realism along

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Ben Burdette
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Just like my recent post about using GPS to enhance the phone, I'll try to explore the synergy opportunities for the accelerometers that Neo has. Once again, some of this might have already been discussed. I'd like to see an accelerometer graphing application, so you

Re: accelerometer thought

2008-04-12 Thread Ben Burdette
Yes, and my usage too... :) Good idea ! But what about a not moving for a while switch? In my pocket, my bag, or other moving places, it will ring, and if it is staying on a desktop, or near my bed, it will use vibrator... But what happens if I try to locate it on my house, expecting it will

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-13 Thread Ben Burdette
Great news that things are getting so finalized. I have a question about the '10-pack'. I'm thinking about getting together a group order for my local LUG. Suppose we have 11 people interested? Is it more a 10-plus pack, or would that extra 1 phone have to be ordered at full 399 price?

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

2008-04-16 Thread Ben Burdette
Steven ** wrote: I don't see how GSM is much less closed of a network protocol than CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). The GSM chip is the most locked down hardware on the Neo. A CDMA chip would be no different. Actually the situation here IS very different,

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-21 Thread Ben Burdette
Black on black case is looking great! Glad you're going with that for the freerunner. Michael Shiloh wrote: Remember, Steve is still deciding what to include in the box. These are just a bunch of stuff that fit, from which he is making decisions: http://quickstart.openmoko.org/photographs/

Re: photographs of box and POSSIBLE contents of Neo Freerunner

2008-04-21 Thread Ben Burdette
I think it has a protective piece of plastic over the screen, for shipping. You can see the tab where you pull off the plastic in one of the photos. Federico Lorenzi wrote: Just from looking at photos, it seems that 02's screen is a lot less reflective then 01? Cheers, Federico On Mon, Apr

Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto

2008-04-21 Thread Ben Burdette
How about got my moko working. Then you could have a red flannel bag for your 'moko hand'. Moko is HD (hoodoo) enabled! http://www.luckymojo.com/mojo.html ramsesoriginal wrote: Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled upon two simple questions: 1) Do we have

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Ben Burdette
How did you get the plan to begin with? Surely they didn't just give you a SIM card, did you already have another phone or did you buy a cheap phone? Brandon Kruger wrote: I have the Media Net Unlimited package which gives me unlimied data usage for $15/month. Just try not to let them

Re: Stylus Recommendation

2008-05-01 Thread Ben Burdette
Something that might work would be a guitar finger pick. Here's a link to a selection of those: http://www.suncreekmusic.com/index.php/cPath/26_34 The plastic ones would be the way to go. The only thing is its kind of wide like a fingernail, not a precise stylus point. but a little work

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

2008-05-20 Thread Ben Burdette
Travis Tabbal wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The switch to QT *requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a language that I personally find unsuitable for use. QT is C++, but you can write your code

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-09 Thread Ben Burdette
My personal use cases for higher resolution: - programming on the freerunner. I've been learning Haskell, I want to get ghci or hugs on there and hack around with that. Also I'm thinking about running the glade editor on there, if that's possible. - using the freerunner as a remote control

Re: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price

2008-06-11 Thread Ben Burdette
I plan on using my phone in VOIP mode as often as possible. Since I use my phone most often at home, I'm hoping I'll be able to use far fewer minutes per month than normal. That's when the pay-as-you-go SIM plan starts to really pay off - I don't have to pay for an artificial minimum of

Re: Why not use forum?

2008-06-12 Thread Ben Burdette
Hi! I was wondering - why are we not using forum for community? It's much better to view, you can subscribe and unsubscribe to the topics you want and etc. For me, mailing list is much better to view, filter, read off-line, quick download etc. etc. For admins, mailing list is much

Re: Why not use forum?

2008-06-13 Thread Ben Burdette
Ok, this is pointless! But I'll participate anyway: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 June 2008 23:33:37 Ben Burdette wrote: Hi! I was wondering - why are we not using forum for community? It's much better to view, you can subscribe and unsubscribe to the topics you want and etc

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-13 Thread Ben Burdette
What hasn't been entirely clear to me in this discussion is whether, with the current VGA screen, we are able to enter a QVGA mode and run as quickly as with a true QVGA screen. If that is the case, then why not use the QVGA for some things, like application selection, the phone dialer, or

Using gmane with openmoko mailing lists + thunderbird

2008-06-20 Thread Ben Burdette
I found that you can 'subscribe' to mailing lists as newsgroups with this news.gmane.org list-to-nntp server. I was able to subscribe to and then download all the headers for the 12 or two openmoko mailing lists, in just a few minutes. Pretty cool. This is using the Thunderbird news client.