Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 12:33, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 1/24/07 11:41 AM, kkr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anybody know more about price and precision of the accelerometers's
chips on the market now?
About US$3.
Are they good enough to twice
A simple feature that I'd like to see is a silent mode timeout. What
always happens with my current phone is I set it to silent mode because
I'm in a movie or a meeting, and then later I forget to turn the ringer
back on. This leads to a lot of missed calls. You could have a default
timeout
If you are in the UK, Tescos do a cheap pay as you go SIM;
http://www.tesco.com/mobilenetwork/shop/?page=simcards
Maybe WalMart do the same in the US?
There are various pay-as-you-go services in the US. $20 (10UKP) will
buy you a GSM cellphone and 60 minutes of talk time (With no ID or
Unfortunatly, It looks to me like T-Mobile is currently not
interested in
letting its pre-paid customers use GPRS to go anywhere outside their
Silly
T-Zones walled garden.
Let me guess.
This contains such things as weather reports, news headlines,
ringtones, ...
All available for a
I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld
device. Using it as a remote control is one of the things I've
personally been interested in this whole thing for. I'd like to think
of the OpenMoko device as an extension of myself into the world of
electronic devices. My
I don't want to discourage you guys, I'm all for developing a motion
recognition system. It would be cool for using with a speakerphone
output to spell words when you don't want to look at the screen. Using
gestures to navigate an audio based UI would be great for the blind too.
But for
Dasher is only really information efficient considering the input only.
The output stream needs to be quite dense.
This pretty much means that you have to stare at the display all the time
when inputting text.
Sure - in theory, dasher may approach arithmetic coding in terms of
information
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Ryan Prior writes:
Are my emails getting sent twice somehow? I'm using gmail, but have not
noticed any duplication or errors.
Have you been noticing duplicates from other people? I haven't
noticed whether you've got one of the repeating messages (it isn't
twice
Do we really want this to be dugg?
1. Its not an end-user phone. The average digg user who gets this
phone might be suprized and disappointed.
2. Is there already enough demand for the existing phones from the
developers and interested parties who know about it? If there is, i
say let that
Great video! the OFone, which way is up on this thing?
I'd rather not go with oPhone, it sounds derivative of the iPhone. Like
the openmoko phone is a cheap wannabe iPhone. I don't people to have
that impression.
What about a nice industrial-style alphanumeric designation - like the
'FIC
Rather than alienate one group over the other, why not have something
for both? A non camera version for those who don't need the feature as
well as a camera version with the exact same specs for those who can't
live without it? I mean, why have a chip with camera support if there
are no
Maybe you're right, and the whole point is here: mailing lists are for
geeks and forums are for all other people. We should then have a web
based forum.
Are you sure ? I find personally a mailing is much easier. You get the
messages with your regular mail, you can sort them to a
Jay Vaughan wrote:
On Jul 24, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Daniel Robinson wrote:
The goal is communication, not rightness. How is communication best
served?
duh, use both mailing lists and forums. any new forum post - new
post to the list. and vice versa.
That was my thought too. Anyone
A gateway would not work. Forums and mailing lists are two quite
different means of communication. In a forum you can edit things, move
them, delete them. Also, discussing in a flat view doesn't only look
different, it works differently. Also, if you connect both, you get
all the trash
Nick Johnson wrote:
On 8/16/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 16 Aug 2007, at 00:07, Nick Johnson wrote:
The list server is clearly the issue here, failing to accept messages
in a timely fashion.
It's only affecting GMail messages.
I believe people with
Karsten Ensinger wrote:
Maybe you should switch to this (or improve your configuration):
https://removedupes.mozdev.org/
I use this extension to thunderbird with success. The suggestion
of the extension seems to contain some smart algorithms.
The already read messages are preselected for keep
For me LGPL is proper license for such device. It allows to write free
applications which will use any license (all those hackers which you
listed) AND it allows to write commercial stuff.
But after you add closed source software, the phone is not totally free
anymore. Don't you see
The iPhone killer, competitor, or comparisons you have been describing - to
me - should not be done against the neo.
I happen to think that the neo is indeed an anti-iphone. Unfortunately
a lot of people confuse this position with the idea that the neo is an
iPhone killer - something
Giles Jones wrote:
On 11 Sep 2007, at 18:11, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
I once tried a mouse with tactile feedback (built-in vibrator). I
could actually feel the buttons I hovered the cursor over as being
embossed; it felt like moving the mouse over a non-flat relief rather
than simply
It may be worth mentioning that D also works well with straight C libs,
but can't interface directly with C++. Its in the same league as C++ in
terms of speed, while arguably being more elegant.
I haven't worked with scheme since the 80's, in my intro to programming
course! I'll have to
That's really sad. One of the real strengths of the old versions of
PalmOS (and the applications developed for it) was that interaction
was instantaneous -- in almost all cases, what you wanted happened
right away, and in the few exceptions, you were notified immediately
that the app had
So ultimately i think not having a camera might diminish the market,
but won't doom the phone.
--clayton
I have to agree. I personally would like a camera, and if I knew there
would be a neo coming out with one in the near future I might even wait
for it. But I don't think this will
Thanks for the update! I'm relieved to hear that 850mhz is not a dead
duck. I'm keeping my hopes up for an 850 capable gta02.
Ben Burdette
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Patrick Davila wrote:
Michael was gracious enough to come on our show and talk about the great
work you guys are doing:
http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.ogg
http://www.tllts.org/audio/tllts_221-11-28-07.mp3
Enjoy
I was relieved to hear that 850 mhz seems to be a sure thing -
Check out the Dasher text input system.
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/
It is a text input sytem that uses 2 axis analog inputs, like a mouse,
joystick, or tilt sensor. Its very noise resistant, good for people
with muscle control problems. As long as you don't have to tilt so
Ben wrote:
I can't hold out any longer.
I need a PDA that will work as reliably as possble, have a few options
for easy automatic sync (with Mac or Linux) or at least automatic
backup. I will be using it to implement GTD (Getting Things Done).
Phone not essential.
I don't need it to be open,
Ben wrote:
I can't hold out any longer.
I need a PDA that will work as reliably as possble, have a few options
for easy automatic sync (with Mac or Linux) or at least automatic
backup. I will be using it to implement GTD (Getting Things Done).
Phone not essential.
I don't need it to be open,
great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases
designed and built
My company gets aluminum sensor boxes made on a regular basis. They are
pretty comparable to the neo case in complexity, and I think we could
get them made for about 200$ each in a batch of 30-40
Gilles Casse wrote:
Hello,
FYI, mokoTTS 0.05 has just been released.
Awesome, looking forward to listening to project gutenberg files in the
car... didn't know this was already under construction.
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So what is it that is different from the old spec? Is it just the 850
mhz version?
Christopher Earl wrote:
the specs have changed (very slightly)
* Atheros 802.11 b/g WiFi
* Samsung S3C2442 B54 SoC @ 400Mhz
* SMedia Glamo3362 Graphics Accelerator
* 2x ST 3D Accelerometers
* 256MB Flash
*
Earl wrote:
I said very slightly
Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/08 11:57 AM
So what is it that is different from the old spec? Is it just the 850
mhz version?
Christopher Earl wrote:
the specs have changed (very slightly)
* Atheros 802.11 b/g WiFi
* Samsung S3C2442 B54
Federico wrote:
So... where are those usecases that apply to a phone?
maybe pressing the shift key for typing uppercase letters :P
Or other chording based text entry schemes...
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Why not get a bottom-of-the-line phone from T-Mobile or some other GSM
carrier? It will have the making and receiving calls feature and then
you can use the sim in the freerunner when it is available in a month or
two.
Daniel Spies wrote:
Hi list!
I wonder if it's possible to run Openmoko
JW wrote:
On 14/03/2008, Tom Cooksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.telecoms.com/itmgcontent/tcoms/news/articles/20017514053.html
Please, PLEASE tell me this is not true? Or at least it's the consumer version
that's delayed?
Is this just not sowing seeds of realism along
Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
Just like my recent post about using GPS to enhance the phone, I'll
try to explore the synergy opportunities for the accelerometers that
Neo has. Once again, some of this might have already been discussed.
I'd like to see an accelerometer graphing application, so you
Yes, and my usage too... :) Good idea !
But what about a not moving for a while switch?
In my pocket, my bag, or other moving places, it will ring, and if it
is staying on a desktop, or near my bed, it will use vibrator...
But what happens if I try to locate it on my house, expecting it will
Great news that things are getting so finalized.
I have a question about the '10-pack'. I'm thinking about getting
together a group order for my local LUG. Suppose we have 11 people
interested? Is it more a 10-plus pack, or would that extra 1 phone have
to be ordered at full 399 price?
Steven ** wrote:
I don't see how GSM is much less closed of a network protocol than
CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). The
GSM chip is the most locked down hardware on the Neo. A CDMA chip
would be no different.
Actually the situation here IS very different,
Black on black case is looking great! Glad you're going with that for
the freerunner.
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Remember, Steve is still deciding what to include in the box. These
are just a bunch of stuff that fit, from which he is making decisions:
http://quickstart.openmoko.org/photographs/
I think it has a protective piece of plastic over the screen, for
shipping. You can see the tab where you pull off the plastic in one of
the photos.
Federico Lorenzi wrote:
Just from looking at photos, it seems that 02's screen is a lot less
reflective then 01?
Cheers,
Federico
On Mon, Apr
How about got my moko working. Then you could have a red flannel bag
for your 'moko hand'. Moko is HD (hoodoo) enabled!
http://www.luckymojo.com/mojo.html
ramsesoriginal wrote:
Following Michaels request for a homepage for the photos, I stumbled
upon two simple questions:
1) Do we have
How did you get the plan to begin with? Surely they didn't just give
you a SIM card, did you already have another phone or did you buy a
cheap phone?
Brandon Kruger wrote:
I have the Media Net Unlimited package which gives me unlimied data usage
for $15/month. Just try not to let them
Something that might work would be a guitar finger pick. Here's a link
to a selection of those:
http://www.suncreekmusic.com/index.php/cPath/26_34
The plastic ones would be the way to go.
The only thing is its kind of wide like a fingernail, not a precise
stylus point. but a little work
Travis Tabbal wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The switch to QT
*requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a language that I
personally find unsuitable for use.
QT is C++, but you can write your code
My personal use cases for higher resolution:
- programming on the freerunner. I've been learning Haskell, I want to
get ghci or hugs on there and hack around with that. Also I'm thinking
about running the glade editor on there, if that's possible.
- using the freerunner as a remote control
I plan on using my phone in VOIP mode as often as possible. Since I use
my phone most often at home, I'm hoping I'll be able to use far fewer
minutes per month than normal. That's when the pay-as-you-go SIM plan
starts to really pay off - I don't have to pay for an artificial minimum
of
Hi!
I was wondering - why are we not using forum for community?
It's much better to view, you can subscribe and unsubscribe to the
topics you want and etc.
For me, mailing list is much better to view, filter, read off-line,
quick download etc. etc. For admins, mailing list is much
Ok, this is pointless! But I'll participate anyway:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 12 June 2008 23:33:37 Ben Burdette wrote:
Hi!
I was wondering - why are we not using forum for community?
It's much better to view, you can subscribe and unsubscribe to the
topics you want and etc
What hasn't been entirely clear to me in this discussion is whether,
with the current VGA screen, we are able to enter a QVGA mode and run as
quickly as with a true QVGA screen.
If that is the case, then why not use the QVGA for some things, like
application selection, the phone dialer, or
I found that you can 'subscribe' to mailing lists as newsgroups with
this news.gmane.org list-to-nntp server. I was able to subscribe to and
then download all the headers for the 12 or two openmoko mailing lists,
in just a few minutes. Pretty cool. This is using the Thunderbird news
client.
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