Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-18 Thread Kevin Dean
money behind their rants. Whom do you THINK they're going to cater to given that? Viva Libre! -Kevin Dean On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathon Suggs wrote: Why? Don't know your exact situation but my guess is that even when the FreeRunner

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-18 Thread Kevin Dean
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, responding to my own post. I've got more to say on this. This'll be it for a while, I want to see how this community's going to go without me dragging it kicking screaming. Growing up in a bunch of open-source

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-18 Thread Kevin Dean
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lally, This is clearly my responsibility, and in fact there is such a page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates I confess I have been lax in the past few months and have not updated since January,

Re: Neo Freerunner manufacturing status

2008-03-19 Thread Kevin Dean
Excellent update. :) Thanks! On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:33 AM, James Olney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the update Michael! Good news! looks like you've turned a corner! On 19/03/2008, Daniel Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much for these good news! Really appreciate

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-19 Thread Kevin Dean
) as those debating how much RAM the device has or what cell frequencies should be enabled. ] I abbreviate here for brevity, not to ignore any points you've mentioned. On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you allude to this, and if so, I agree

Re: Additional info

2008-03-19 Thread Kevin Dean
You use the words long life and fragile, if you're wondering about the long-term viability of the hardware, it's quite a bit more robust than the last few phones I've used. :) I've dropped it several times getting in and out of my car, I keep it in my pocket with my keys and loose coin when I

Re: Price of the Freerunner published?

2008-03-19 Thread Kevin Dean
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: both US and EU must offer some sort of warranty. I don't believe this is true. IIRC the EU requires sellers or manufacturers to warranty items (or perhaps specific items) but there's no such requirement in the USA (though

Re: Congratulations Harald!

2008-03-21 Thread Kevin Dean
Congrats Harald! On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well deserved by both recipients! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Price of the Freerunner spare parts

2008-03-25 Thread Kevin Dean
life suck on the Neo/Freerunner people will need chargers for the device, and as long as a working fast-charge charger doesn't exist, it will be construed as bad planning. -Kevin Dean On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:18 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Spraul wrote: There are lots

Re: Price of the Freerunner spare parts

2008-03-27 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:58 PM, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct, it checks for 48k-OHM resistor on ID-pin of mini-USB, then enables 1A instead of 100/500mA USB-standard. You also may enable 1A-mode (and 500mA mode) via some small GUI-app IIRC. This is possible via userspace with

Re: Price of the Freerunner spare parts

2008-03-28 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:18 PM, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alas there is *absolutely* *NO* way for NEO though to tell when your braindead 850mA charger will start to slowly melt down overnight when you set 1A charge mode via applet. It's very unlikely there will ever be any trouble

Re: Loosing your moko

2008-04-03 Thread Kevin Dean
The idea of a homing beacon is pretty cool. I have to say, however that havign a centralized place for this information to be stored is... as politely as possible, stupid. Asking Can we do something expresses creativity but requires a should we do something. We know the device CAN do that,

Re: GTA02 Release Date

2008-04-06 Thread Kevin Dean
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Sean Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think many people are anxious to know when the Neo FreeRunner will actually be released. I know of many people that are quite eager to buy one; if it won't be ready till December, say so. Stop keeping hundreds of

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Kevin Dean
I'd happily trade wifi for 3G. Well, that is... Until Openmoko begins offering a wifi service for under $20 a month that allows me to do streaming internet radio in my car. :) Wifi is worthless with 110 mile daily commute. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-07 Thread Kevin Dean
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a US resident, 3G is pretty useless to me. Mostly because it costs AT LEAST an additional $30 a month to utilize it. I'm also not sure it's available in my area. I'm also a US resident and the unlimited plan on my

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin Dean
Excellent, thanks for the update! On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT, or production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from the first PVT run. Michael Shiloh will be back in

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin Dean
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Andrea Debortoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about EUROS prices?? IF, and this is an IF, it works as it did with the GTA01, the USD price is technically incorrect. When i paid, it charged my debit card for $309 worth of Taiwan dollars. I would imagine that your

Re: What should be included in packaging (was: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)

2008-04-14 Thread Kevin Dean
I'm in the same position as Bobby. I use my Neo as my primary phone as well as my digital media player. I haven't touched the lanyard or the pouch since I took them out of the box. But I also don't use my stylus. My stylus was neat in the beginning, because I could use it to play with my cats,

Re: What should be included in packaging (was: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)

2008-04-14 Thread Kevin Dean
that work with the NEO. I suggest you add your iGo charger to that list. On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the same position as Bobby. I use my Neo as my primary phone as well as my digital media player. I haven't touched the lanyard or the pouch

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-14 Thread Kevin Dean
The RapRep doesn't have the precision needed to build a Neo case, and last I checked, didn't have varied enough base materials to make a study, opaque, and APPEALING case. Put simply multi-colored cases are purely a looks thing. The CAD files are out there and someone who wanted to sell after

Re: Nano on Openmoko

2008-04-14 Thread Kevin Dean
Nano is available in the repositories included with recent images. To install it, one simply needs to do opkg install nano -force-overwrite on an internet connected Neo. I'm assuming that QEMU would do the same. -Kevin On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Brandon Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Trading in €uros ?

2008-04-15 Thread Kevin Dean
The figure in USD is as innacurate as anything else. You're not actually paying $399 USD, you're paying the number of New Taiwan Dollars that can be exchanged for $399 USD. Rebasing the price in ANY currency means absolutely nothing since (assuming you aren't paying exchange premiums) it's the

Re: DHL has a package for me!

2008-04-15 Thread Kevin Dean
Ihre Ausweis! On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:57 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My samples arrived! I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have to send them a copy of My social security card or my taxes. ___

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

2008-04-16 Thread Kevin Dean
GSM is essentially an international standard. With some exceptions, CDMA isn't used much. Furthermore, even in the USA, Verizon will be deploying a GSM network soon (next few years). So a Freerunner WILL work on Verizon in the near future. Don't count on a CDMA device, using a relatively closed

Re: openmoko roadmap

2008-04-16 Thread Kevin Dean
Speaking realistically, it's impossible for Openmoko to reveal that information and no have it hurt sales, for EXACTLY the reason you mentioned. As a support (and Neo1973 owner) I debated with this myself. Why pay for a phone today when I KNOW the newer model is around the corner? At the same

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

2008-04-16 Thread Kevin Dean
. In that case, the only network that it won't work on is Sprint's. You can debate over who is exactly at fault in that situation; all the handset makers worldwide or Sprint. -Steven On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GSM is essentially an international standard

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-04-17 Thread Kevin Dean
The table colors have too little contrast, I think. It's readable, but I have to force myself to do so. On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a vote: I like the old one more. Am 17.04.2008 um 12:58 schrieb Ivo Anjo: Hi. Personally, I

Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-17 Thread Kevin Dean
I do reviews using the GTA01 and will begin doing reviews on the GTA02 as soon as I have it. Currently, I use the Neo1973 (GTA01) as my primary phone. Call quality is decent. There are some stability issues that come and go as the code is tweaked and such. Just about everything in a default image

Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-17 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcus can you please inform me of how long the battery lasts on your neo 1973? on average ... Not Marcus but I have an answer. :) Using the Dim first, don't lock mode which dims the screen after a few seconds and then turns

Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-17 Thread Kevin Dean
. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcus can you please inform me of how long the battery lasts on your neo 1973? on average ... Not Marcus but I have an answer. :) Using

Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-18 Thread Kevin Dean
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To this i have a little question. I didn't find the ESC-key (which is essentially in vi(m)) and i also didn't find the CTRL-key. Whithout this a simple tail can make you to

Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework

2008-04-18 Thread Kevin Dean
I have to say, I'm baffled by that sentiment. GTA02v5 is fully functional, the only problem is that it's not as efficient as it could be, just like every other product on the planet. For those saying wait another month I've got a different arguement - let's NOT hire people to make the changes,

Re: Terminology (was: Charging Neo Freerunner via USB port)

2008-04-19 Thread Kevin Dean
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/19, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Feature phones only differ between talk time and standby time. For us, it's a bit more complicated, since we have more modes. Can we agree on the following:

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Kevin Dean
I'm happy paying $399 for all ye who feel the need to pay $400 to make it even. :P Though, I'll hop on the even bandwagon if it's dropped as long as Openmoko makes profit. :) If you really want to pay more, you could set up a Tip a Developer program... -Kevin On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 7:13 PM,

Re: Progress on GTA01 power management issues !

2008-04-21 Thread Kevin Dean
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Fredrik Markström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still no official comments on this issue ? Until this is resolved I advice newcomers to be careful before spending $399 on another piece of potentially useless hardware (GTA02). If you think your GTA01 is

Re: 99

2008-04-21 Thread Kevin Dean
For the record, my tip a programmer thing was almost pure sarcasm. I find this discussion to be amusing by the level of absurdity in it. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:57 AM, ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so first, i also would like to see 400$ instead of 399$, because it's simply a

Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto

2008-04-21 Thread Kevin Dean
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Georg Michelitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Concerning the soundset (if I understood right you meant something like a standard sound for the phone-startup as a lot of other companies pratice) I think a human voice saying Openmoko - Open mobile communication

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread Kevin Dean
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Travis Tabbal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info. T-Mobile seems to have good coverage here. It sounds like the Total Internet plan is the way to go. I'm looking forward to the release of Freerunner. I love being able to add/change software on my

Re: GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?)

2008-04-24 Thread Kevin Dean
. The one thing I've written[1] was specifically designed to be finger-friendly as I don't intend to carry a stylus around with me either. -Steven [1] http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/moko-sudoku/ On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu

Re: Freerunner AC adaptor.. Kevin dean you there?

2008-04-24 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:47 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my razr charger draws 850. I haven't check my igo charger, Kevin is the IGO usb 100ma or 500ma? This may be a trick question... I don't have an AC iGo, I have a DC iGO car charger.

Re: Freerunner AC adaptor.. Kevin dean you there?

2008-04-24 Thread Kevin Dean
So... Here's the magical question. How would an average user like myself find that out without buying equipment to test it if the manufacturer didn't include actualy numbers (or in my case, if the manufacturer specifies a range of possibilities)? On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:59 PM, ian douglas

Re: 10 PACK UPDATE!!!

2008-04-25 Thread Kevin Dean
I've not had ANYONE comment it's ugly but just about everyone I've handed it to said It's HUGE. I personally LOVE it, I'm huge too. :) On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Lowell Higley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was the GTA01.. the first pics I saw of the GTA02 was last week. I showed both

Re: Kentucky / Indiana Group Order

2008-04-25 Thread Kevin Dean
I figured that the person who started a KY/IN group would be from Louisville or New Albany and not from Indy, Fort Wayne or Lexington. Keep in mind when forming the groups that if it still needs to be shipped (as opposed to physically delivered) there isn't much savings. You're saving $30 by

Re: Freerunner AC adaptor.. Kevin dean you there?

2008-04-25 Thread Kevin Dean
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Dean Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:07 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Freerunner AC adaptor.. Kevin dean you there? So... Here's the magical question. How would an average user like myself find

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you could do this. Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
: Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's quite useful, thanks! On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is what you're looking for: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html On Thu, May 1, 2008

Re: Group Sales, distribution model

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
device. If not, then I'm sure he will also order directly. Clearly details like these must be worked out for each local group, but should be done OFF LIST. I've described my expectations as simply an example of the choices to be made. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kevin

Re: Wiki distorted in Firefox 3?

2008-05-05 Thread Kevin Dean
Iceweasel 3 shows the sidebar moved to the bottom. On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:20 PM, MartinG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/5/08, Tomas Gustavsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Firefox 3 Beta 5 in Ubuntu 8.04

Re: microSD support

2008-05-09 Thread Kevin Dean
It's also worth noting that the 32GB limit is also artificial. 2048GB is the technical limit for SDHC, if I recall correctly. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Stefan Misch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crane, Matthew wrote: The SD card association has limtied the size of sdhc to 32gb, the max

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

2008-05-19 Thread Kevin Dean
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha snapshot of the ASU software. I've done Daily Snapshot Reviews since January. I enjoy bug hunting and communication. Where can I get this image? Does it run

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

2008-05-19 Thread Kevin Dean
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Travis Tabbal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz wrote: Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have C++/QT versions running on my phone. I really don't

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

2008-05-20 Thread Kevin Dean
ASU is literally the April Software Update. Three letter acronyms give it more geek cred. :) On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does ASU stand for anyways? It makes me nervous knowing that the phones software shares the same initials with my

My blog, Freerunner FIrst Impressions and some pics

2008-05-22 Thread Kevin Dean
a few tidbits of opinion on some of the changes that seem to get overlooked. Anyway, the writeup can be read at: http://monochromementality.com/index.php/blog/show/Day-One-Openmoko-Freerunner.html -Kevin Dean ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: My blog, Freerunner FIrst Impressions and some pics

2008-05-23 Thread Kevin Dean
. You're doing well enough. :) Any questions you have might help me decide what ends up in the reviews I write, so I'd appreciate the input. :) Thanks again Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible- Kevin Dean escribió: I recieved my Openmoko Freerunner sample this morning via DHL, and like I did

Re: My blog, Freerunner FIrst Impressions and some pics

2008-05-23 Thread Kevin Dean
Hrm... I've been having issues off and on too. I'll tranfer the site to a new server when I get to work, hopefully that will help. -Kevin On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Dean wrote: Anyway, the writeup can be read at: It's about

Re: Video of production device?

2008-05-23 Thread Kevin Dean
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vinc Duran wrote: Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/illume-vv-01.avi posted by Kevin Dean on May 19th. Is that video of shipping software or just

Re: My blog, Freerunner FIrst Impressions and some pics

2008-05-23 Thread Kevin Dean
escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have the same Problem. :-( Marco Trevisan (Treviño) schrieb: | Kevin Dean wrote: | Anyway, the writeup can be read at: | | It's about a day (since it has been posted on planet) that I can't connect to your site! :( | -BEGIN PGP

Re: GTA01 battery charge circuit: ID pin?

2008-05-23 Thread Kevin Dean
Wurp wrote an applet that adds a LOT of functionality to the 1973. Install the applet on you phone and then force it to fast charge when connected to a charger and you're golden. Charge on the go, using a wall charger or a car charger. :) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CheckFastCharge-script On

Re: Qtopia Vs. GTK or both?

2008-05-24 Thread Kevin Dean
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag 24 Mai 2008 14:47:03 schrieb rakshat hooja: I am not to sure how many people have seen the Neo software stack diagram on the wiki but after looking at it there really should not be a GTK Vs Qtopia argument any more.

Re: My blog, Freerunner FIrst Impressions and some pics

2008-05-24 Thread Kevin Dean
] On Behalf Of Kevin Dean Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:10 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: My blog, Freerunner FIrst Impressions and some pics On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Kosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome! Thank you very much. No problem. :) What about

Re: Re[2]: Video of production device?

2008-05-24 Thread Kevin Dean
? Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/illume-vv-01.avi posted by Kevin Dean on May 19th. Is that video of shipping software or just a concept video? If someone cares I dislike such UI.Even on video playback it can be seen that sometimes some

Re: Qte or Qt?

2008-05-24 Thread Kevin Dean
Qt has been adapted for X11. This is why GTK apps will still be supported. On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Bin Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As ASU switched to Qt, to ensure the coexistence of GTK+ and QT, the backend should be chosen to X11. As I know, QTE only support framebuffer

Re: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships?

2008-05-25 Thread Kevin Dean
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am NOT asking if mass production has started. I am asking if OpenMoko has frozen a release to load into the microSD cards. It seems to me that the unit can come off the line, and that one of the final steps before

Re: sales tax on freerunners

2008-05-25 Thread Kevin Dean
There's no American tax. I was chatting with a friend from Croatia who was confused by how American sales tax works because apparently it's more common elsewhere (or particularly in Europe) to roll the sales tax (VAT?) into the advertised price of the good. In America, each state has it's own

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-27 Thread Kevin Dean
Yeah, there are GTA01 images for the ASU, I've tested them. Not too much to report, ASU is almost totally non-functional but it gives a good view of it's potential. I planned on doing video over this weekend but I got sick for the first time in almost three years. *growls* On Tue, May 27, 2008

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-30 Thread Kevin Dean
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:35 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yorick Matthys wrote: I don't know how to post on the mailing list (shame on me, I know...) although i read every mail that gets posted on them, so I write it directly to your e-mail address. If you're subscribed to the

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-31 Thread Kevin Dean
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Mike Montour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Dean wrote: Unscientific testing, yes. The echo is still there. :) s/)/(/ Can you please add a note about this to bug #1267? How bad was the echo - enough that a normal person would complain about

Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Kevin Dean
If you're speeding, you're already breaking the law. Good people have an ethical imperative to ignore and oppose unjust law. I'd love to see a Trapster[1] app on Openmoko. I was made aware of this project because of the Dash GPS-device which was made in association with FIC/Openmoko, so I've got

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Kevin Dean
This is GTA03 - http://walkingice.twbbs.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=715 On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Sergey Volkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, openmoko community. I have a question regarding future products of Openmoko. Wiki says http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA that GTA03 is

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-03 Thread Kevin Dean
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:51 AM, flexd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) skrev: On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:12:30 -0400 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the day nvidia comes with open drivers for this... we can begin to take an interest :) To be honest, (i myself do

Re: Cleared to start Mass production

2008-06-05 Thread Kevin Dean
Excellent! Thanks for the update! On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:12 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START.

Re: Wireless providers in the US

2008-06-11 Thread Kevin Dean
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could those of you in the US, who have the prior phone,and who plan to get the new one, share what providers you are using? T-Mobile. Been with them 5 or 6 years and zero complaints. Also, any details would be great. I am going to

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-11 Thread Kevin Dean
The Freerunner has a single SIM slot. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Adilson Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I'm quite sure the answer is no but as I didn't find any definitive answer for that I decided to ask: does the openmoko

Re: SIM cards for Freerunner (was Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price)

2008-06-11 Thread Kevin Dean
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stroller writes: On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:44, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Did you get a lower price on your contract than you would have with a phone? Yes, they would have let me pay for a subsidized phone without giving me the

Re: Wireless providers in the US

2008-06-11 Thread Kevin Dean
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ian douglas wrote: ... but not at ATT plans are available coast-to-coast. Got it! This was something I wasn't aware of. I've lived in several states over the past handful of years and the plans I've had have all been the

Re: SIM cards for Freerunner (was Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price)

2008-06-11 Thread Kevin Dean
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Dean wrote: I'm an American and your statement confuses me. Why is it obvious that a contract without a phone should be cheaper? The service (cellular connectivity for voice and/or data) is the same service

Re: SIM cards for Freerunner (was Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price)

2008-06-11 Thread Kevin Dean
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because the price of the free phone is bundled into the price of the contract. I don't think so. The only thing that changes in the deal is the profit margin of the company. The costs of the mobile carrier also indirectly

Re: SIM cards for Freerunner

2008-06-11 Thread Kevin Dean
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh okay so its semantics then. In the USA, the contract is for the service ONLY. That's why I asked in the beginning if we had a different definition of what it meant to contract. It's a lot like a grocery store that offers

Re: SIM cards for Freerunner (was Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price)

2008-06-11 Thread Kevin Dean
Please note this is an OFF LIST reply, since it is off topic for Openmoko mailing lists. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Lowell Higley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I make an observation.. I am an American by birth but have lived all over the world.. In the middle of the Pacific, Korea, and now

Re: SIM cards for Freerunner (was Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price)

2008-06-12 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, at 03:19, Kevin Dean wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I don't get a phone, I shouldn't have to pay for one. Walk into T-Mobile or ATT and buy a phone

Re: Why not use forum?

2008-06-12 Thread Kevin Dean
It's interesting how much divide this issue causes, I think. :) I'm personally a fan of fora, but I don't really care too strongly either way. Some people REALLY like mailing lists and some people REALLY like fora and never the twain shall meet. :P On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Richard

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-13 Thread Kevin Dean
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering English is not his native language... I am sure something did not come through as he intended. I think what he means is this: Businesses are not yet ready to fully embrace open source as the community see's

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-13 Thread Kevin Dean
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion is averse. There's no valid reason to abandon the very simple concept of users, groups, and permissions, just to have an easy start on development (fixing apps later on is a PITA). If you don't care from

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-15 Thread Kevin Dean
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:25 AM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will tell you that having those kind of permissions systems when the INTRUDER has physical access to the device is next to pointless. the om is connected via wlan or bluetooth -- thus allowing hacking into it (if it is not

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-15 Thread Kevin Dean
Firstly, sorry for the blank reply. Accidentally double clicked and send is in the same spot. :P On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:25 AM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: only opkg is run, not everything possible. logging in as root opens a world of ways to harm your data, either by accident or

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-16 Thread Kevin Dean
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Dean wrote: In the mobile world, there is NOTHING more important than the user's data. Nothing. And in the mobile world, you can impliment root priv seperations till the cows come home, but it doesn't eliminate

Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?

2008-06-16 Thread Kevin Dean
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Andy Selby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a post on engadget mobile that suggested some have been released. I cant find it, you got a link? http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/06/11/openmoko-freerunner-gets-reviewed-early/ I didn't get this as part of a

My blog: Photo Tour Of The ASU

2008-06-16 Thread Kevin Dean
Hi everyone. Over the weekend I took perhaps 50 or so screenshots of the ASU on a Freerunner. A lot of them are repetitive, simply showing all of the options on a given application. But others are interesting and show some new or under-reviewed applications. I've taken those best of images and

Re: My blog: Photo Tour Of The ASU

2008-06-16 Thread Kevin Dean
, Charles Edward Pax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the post. I love screenshots. -Charles On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. Over the weekend I took perhaps 50 or so screenshots of the ASU on a Freerunner. A lot of them are repetitive, simply

Re: My blog: Photo Tour Of The ASU

2008-06-17 Thread Kevin Dean
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad Raster joined up w/Moko for this. What's that slider view for (the one with three panels)? The equations, zoomed text, giant icon, etc? It's an application launcher. Each application is in a category, and each

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-18 Thread Kevin Dean
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Knight Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The root/user separation is the most fundamental part of a security policy and here is why. Root is by its nature not only unrestricted but unrestrictable (I think I just made up a new word). A non-root user can only

MokoMakefile Build Issues

2008-06-19 Thread Kevin Dean
of date. Any help in resolving these issues would be greatly appreciated! -Kevin Dean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Enough already (too many posts about forum vs. mail lists)

2008-06-19 Thread Kevin Dean
You really should post that on the forum. :) -Kevin On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People, It's time to end the infinite string of emails about using a forum vs not using one. NOW! For $diety's sake, don't those interested in the world's first

Re: upgrade memory card

2008-06-24 Thread Kevin Dean
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a question about the miniSD card in the FreeRunner. If I want to install a larger card at some point is it any easier to already have the new card in hand before I even turn on the FR and just install it when I

Re: Best Image to run on the neo1973 these days?

2008-06-25 Thread Kevin Dean
ScaredyCat's images are probably the most functional of all of them at this point, especially since they will auto-detect the gllin .ipk if it's installed on your device and it includes TangoGPS. I don't use GPS on my Neo and what I personally run is Qtopia because it's media player can fast

Re: ATT SIM problems

2008-06-25 Thread Kevin Dean
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds like yes to me... This would be a very important issue for me, as I'm definitely going to have to use ATT. On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Daniel

Re: warranty

2008-06-25 Thread Kevin Dean
Sounds pretty final to me. 14 day DOA on individual units. 28 day DOA on 10-pack purchases. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Dave O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the final word on warranties or are you still trying to work that out? On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, steve wrote: 10 pack is a

Re: warranty

2008-06-25 Thread Kevin Dean
Realized that looked confrontational. :) I should have phrased it There didn't seem to be any indicaiton that this would or has changed, do you have reason to doubt that this policy is the official one? -Kevin On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds pretty

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-25 Thread Kevin Dean
The rumors of the Freerunner being on sale have been greatly exagerated. From what I've heard, SOME distributors have been notified that Freerunner devices are being shipped to those retailers. Retailers need to have a product in stock in order to sell it on the day it is released, that is what

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