AGPS or: Global Locate's Marketing debunked

2006-12-26 Thread Marcus Bauer
The neo1973 will come with a Global Locate GPS chip. In the following I will try to explain the disadvantages of that situation. First thing to keep in mind is that all the tomtom PDAs do pretty well without any A-GPS at all!! So what is that A-GPS good for? ---

Re: Real Neo1973 photo / Neo delayed...!?

2007-01-11 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 15:48 -0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 1/11/07 3:38 PM, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there's enough interest, it might be cool to just sell the mapping data Raster or vector, and with or without address data? This would be the raw stuff that companies

Re: OpenMoko-ID

2007-01-23 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 09:23 -0500, Richard Franks wrote: Will we have something like this? Do we want something like this? It could be useful for contact-sharing, authentication, access to services on the OpenMoko site, keeping track of gaming friends, referencing file/data resources on the

Re: Free Your Phone

2007-01-23 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 08:42 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Exploit used in the context of people, is something not to be taking lightly. I _really_ don't want to come across as guy trying to exploit others for my personal benefit. Creating this project was not for exploitation. I sincerely

Re: Need info on AGPS

2007-01-24 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 23:09 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote: All, I've been reading on this lists for some time now and saw that there are quite intelligent people here ;-) I am not very up to date in my knowledge of GPS. Can somebody answer me a couple of quick questions? 1. Has anybody

Re: R: Need info on AGPS

2007-01-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 14:38 +0100, Michele Manzato wrote: 1. Is there any A-GPS standard whatsoever? The Open Mobile Alliance (OMA) has defined a couple of protocols how to provide assistance data on the mobile network layer. This is mostly important in emergency situations (911/112 calls) to

Re: R: Need info on AGPS

2007-01-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 16:39 +0100, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: Well, it does or not. The question is, does AGPS help with accuracy? AGPS is a marketing term invented by the mobile industry and their caterers. The reference docs for the SiRF binary protocol simply calls these functions set ephemeris

Re: R: Need info on AGPS

2007-01-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 16:24 +0100, Harald Welte wrote: 3. A-GPS involves additional data traffic and thus (potential) additional costs. Does it use a normal GSM/GPRS IP-based data transfer? does it use some out-of-band GSM/GPRS control messages? or does it get data from broadcasts in the

Re: GPS Power Requirements

2007-01-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 10:23 -0600, Jonathon Suggs wrote: There has been a lot of talk about GPS recently. There are some really good ideas floating around, but before people start getting really excited the BIG question is what is the power draw on the device? Will you be able to keep the

Re: GPS Power Requirements

2007-01-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 11:08 -0600, Jonathon Suggs wrote: Marcus Bauer wrote: 5mW if you get a fix every ten seconds. 10 seconds is a pretty big interval. Where did you get that information from? I don't have a link at hand, but the GL chip consumes 50mW in continuous mode and gets a fix

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

2007-01-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 20:00 +0100, Ortwin Regel wrote: The only situation where I can see the accelerometer being really useful is where Apple is using it: For changing the screen orientation of things according to how you hold the phone. An accelerometer is a nice to have for navigation too.

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

2007-01-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
michael, when did you last time visit your shrink? you should immediately make an appointment with him^W it! believe me michael, ladies is by all accounts a politically correct word. On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 11:25 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please refrain from making any comments of a sexist

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

2007-01-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 01:53 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Marcus, please watch your tone on this mailing list. It shall be. You obviously didn't follow the news closely otherwise you would have already known about

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

2007-01-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 02:16 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote: An you mean insulting people and guessing about facts helps us here? I don't think so. Stop insulting I'll refrain from harsh words. buy your phone in march I'd buy it today already if it would be available. and show us what

Re: Some thoughts about the real importanted dates for OpenMoko/Neo1973 3GSM World 2007 Barcelona this year ...Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

2007-01-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 03:42 +0100, Robert Michel wrote: I don't think that people buy a new phone to going on holiday with the new phone - AFAIK the most phones are sold November-January. People buy phones all year round. And those that do so before their holidays will come back and make

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

2007-01-26 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:35 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Marcus, these kind of comments are not constructive at all. Mickey is a core member of OpenMoko and is doing an amazing job. You haven't even seen the work he's done and you're already bashing us? I honestly believe that OpenEmbedded

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

2007-01-26 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:37 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Listen, there's nobody on this list that wishes we'd had this phone out in January more than I. But delays happen. You can't seriously be calling us liars now are you? Gosh no, that would be nonsense! However I'm sure I'm not the

tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hello, I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for Openmoko/Neo. It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching them. You can drag the map, zoom in and out and see your current position and track if a gps signal is available. In order to run it you

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 10:51 +0100, Lionel Dricot wrote: I'm highly interested in your software. I'm curious about a comparison with Maermo mapper. And also : how hard do you think it would be to port your TangoGPS to Maemo (Nokia N810) ? Great job ! Quick answer: on a N810 you are happier

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-05 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 08:58 +0100, jan korinek wrote: Very good!!! fast and working. Is there a way to predownload some maps in some radius? GPRS is expensive :) I will come up with a collection of regional tgz-files and a script for downloading. For now you can simply zoom and drag the map

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-05 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 06:44 -0500, Christopher Earl wrote: Where is the config located , stupid new unstable OM image has a new OSKB with no slashes It is gconf, thus you can use gconftool-2 to get/set the keys. Currently there are: - /apps/tangogps/repos - /apps/tangogps/repo_name more

Re: Wiki - New Page - OpenMoko Community Applications

2008-02-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 16:48 -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote: And BTW this method would not work for finding TangoGPS, because the ipkg is on its own separate site. (Why? it must mean it's too hard to get a new ipkg into the regular repository, right?) I haven't yet asked anybody to get

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-08 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 01:04 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote: Hello, I've researched this a little, and this is what I've learned: 1. We are still looking at a number of different batteries, so there is no final capacity or feature set determined yet. 2. The capacity will most likely be

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-08 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 10:29 -0600, Steven ** wrote: Search the archives. There's some Nokia battery that is apparently a drop-in replacement for the Neo1973's battery. They discovered this a long time ago. The Nokia batteries are AFAIK not a drop-in replacement. According to

Re: Question for OpenMoko: can we please buy just a battery?

2008-02-21 Thread Marcus Bauer
For those with a soldering iron I can recommend mintyboost [1] Works great here, two AA batteries extend the life of the Neo for about two hours. As it is a dumb charger you need to manually activate fast charge, otherwise the Neo will only pull 100mA. Make sure you test the output voltage

Re: Any experience with iGO stowaway BT keyboard?

2008-03-04 Thread Marcus Bauer
I got it from amazon uk (qwerty) without the Dell branding and it works like a charme. Just switch on bluetooth and then do hidd --search That's it. If there are plenty of other BT things around you, go with hidd --connect BT-MAC-OF-KEYBOARD Apart from being careful when opening and

tangoGPS 0.7 is out - lots of improvements

2008-03-05 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hello community, tangoGPS, a fast and lightweight GPS and map application using openstreetmap is out in version 0.7. Lots of improvements, more stability and a friend finder function. The tripmeter now features trip time, maximum and average speed plus start/stop button turning your Neo into a

Re: tangoGPS 0.7 is out - lots of improvements

2008-03-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 01:37 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Looking at the demos it seems to be a really good project, the support for the OSM maps is good, but what about integrating support for libgarmin to allow using also free and commercial garmin maps (of course, waiting OSM

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 14:11 +, David Pottage wrote: More of a problem is the fact that the Neo is not waterproof, and if you put it in a waterproof case, the touch screen can't be used. You would just need a decent sealing/joint around the touch screen. I don't think the touchscreen itself

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 15:27 +0100, Schmidt András wrote: As the Neo's screen is pressure based (not capacitive) it could be possible to be used through a thin plastic layer. There are PDA bags which cover the touch screen and it still remains functional I'd try to go for a joint: -

Re: GSoC 2008: Call for ideas

2008-03-11 Thread Marcus Bauer
already there, thanks to openembedded: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv4t/sqlite3_3.5.6-r0_armv4t.ipk On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 22:52 +0200, Ilja O. wrote: Sqlite port would be nice thing to have. (With C/C++/Python bindings, of course)

Get it at Pulster (was: Re: freerunnter - get it over trisoft)

2008-03-20 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 14:58 +0100, Matthias Ringwald wrote: ok. ripping off might be a bit exaggerated. [..long thread...] Just for info, pulster is going to sell it too, so if you don't like trisoft - go there (I'm not affiliated with them). They still have the Neo1973 in their shop but I

RE: Price of the Freerunner spare parts

2008-03-24 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 16:00 -0700, steve wrote: I thought about spare parts a while back. The Issue is this. 1. WHAT do I stock ( which parts) batteries 2. How Many do I stock? thousands ;-) 3. How do I sell them to you? via the resellers 4. What will it cost? free as in beer :°)

headphone (was: RE: Price of the Freerunner spare parts)

2008-03-26 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 18:58 -0700, steve wrote: But onto your specifics: 4. Headsets. It’s a standard part. Hi Steve, I looked on the wiki pages but can't find the specs. As nokia headsets with a 2.5mm plug don't work (different wiring and impedance) there are apparently several

Re: TomTom on Openmoko?

2008-03-27 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:38 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, ramsesoriginal napisał: I am of the idea that a navigation system would be THE killer-app for the openmoko, and I personally know many persons that would also pay extra money to have a navigator

OSM maps (was: Re: TomTom on Openmoko?)

2008-03-27 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:46 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: The coverage of the Netherlands has already commercial quality (go and have a look) - actually it is already better than commercial data and in the US the governments TIGER data has been imported. Compare that with other parts

Re: TomTom on Openmoko?

2008-03-27 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:57 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: It was not done by community but by commercial company... But *now* it is Creative Commons licensed! And to see what the community does within one year, here another nice link, showing how Munich grew in an animated gif.

submit data to OSM (was: Re: TomTom on Openmoko?)

2008-03-27 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 08:36 -0500, Tim Shannon wrote: Does tangogps submit data to OSM as well, because that would be great. Yes, you can to load the track logs into the JOSM editor, give them a quick check and upload to OSM. I'd imaging that the quality of data in OSM would greatly increase

RE: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 12:59 -0400, Crane, Matthew wrote: * Detect when phone has dropped out of ones pocket, short fall by aprupt stop, beep three times loudly. (that's kind of reaching..) Better even: start self check and if it fails play HAL singing Daisy while fading away (from Kubrick's

Re: customized CPE - Android Openmoko

2008-04-04 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 01:25 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Let me use this opportunity to talk a bit about Openmoko and Android. First of all we really like Android! We don't see Android as competition, it is complementary to what we are doing and may help us in many ways. For all those

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 11:22 -0700, Uncle Kridley wrote: What sort of browser will Openmoko have? From various postings on the lists I get them impression that there is a (somewhat) working browser, but the wiki page is very sketchy. Will/does it support the following? *) Javascript *)

Re: tangoGPS refresh maps?

2008-04-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 16:16 -0700, John Locke wrote: Fantastic work on TangoGPS--it's seen more use than anything else on my Neo... and today I just tested out the tracking feature, following Marcus's instructions to upload my map to openstreetmap.org for some trails in a local park...

Charger? (was: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)

2008-04-14 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 08:38 +0200, Erland Lewin wrote: 2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone. 2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine. How long will charging the phone take with the fast charger vs. a normal

Re: Charger? (was: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)

2008-04-14 Thread Marcus Bauer
was that it was a wall charger. Thinking about it now I realize that perhaps that was not a good assumption to make. Just my 4 1/2 cents. On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 08:38 +0200, Erland Lewin wrote: 2008/4

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-14 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:36 +0200, Andreas Kemnade wrote: It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly to it), I

Re: What should be included in packaging (was: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)

2008-04-14 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 10:33 -0500, Bobby Martin wrote: I lost the stylus (it's way too cool; if you forget it at a restaurant or something, you don't get a call asking if you want it back :-) They are $3 a piece w/ shipping included if you take ten. For example this one here:

Re: Target Market (was: Re: Charger?)

2008-04-14 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 20:06 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: I have made the same observations when showing the Neo. An additional feedback came from a former key account manager who had sold millions of phones to Vodafone and other MNOs: it is impossible to sell this industrial

Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-17 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 16:41 +0200, Eildert Groeneveld wrote: with the Freerunner approaching I wonder which applications are currently in a usable status? Apparently, Steve's managed to make a phone call. What about SMS or addressbook? Is there a list somewhere? or does the current qemu

Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-17 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 00:33 +0300, Flyin_bbb8 wrote: Marcus can you please inform me of how long the battery lasts on your neo 1973? on average ... I have to second what Kevin already answered. 3-5 hours. However, the spare batteries are just a few grams, so I don't care - they easily fit in my

Re: which applications are usable

2008-04-18 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 13:10 -0400, Kevin Dean wrote: the multi-tap input was dropped in as a replacement. Because this doesn't have a (-) or a CTRL or a / key, it's essentially useless for terminal. It does have a / (on the +/0) but the slash does not come up in the terminal. However, the

Re: Will GTK be used in Openmoko?

2008-05-15 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 09:55 -0700, Edward Falk wrote: I really liked using GTK to develop -- it meant I could write my code on a workstation with the intent of porting it to Moko later, and also with the possibility of writing a workstation version of the same app. So what are supposed to

Re: Ublox AGPS On-line impelementation

2008-06-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 13:30 +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: Matt, that's great, thanks, will compile now. I've just emailed u-blox support requesting a username and password; hopefully I'll be able to test this soon enough (just need to find a reasonable way of getting GPRS to work now...) I

Re: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price

2008-06-10 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 13:15 -0700, Lowell Higley wrote: In this case, the iPhone is way more expensive than an iPhone. ^^^ I always knew there is some conspiracy going on with Apple ;-p

Re: Openmoko official resell partners

2008-06-11 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 17:43 +0800, Harry Tsai wrote: Dear Community, You should already know Pulster and IDA, they are our official reseller in the Germany and India. Today, I want to introduce new partners in Germany and UK, you can buy freerunner from them for save your shipping cost and

Re: GPS

2008-06-23 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 10:25 +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote: This seems to be really misunderstood. The GPS is the Freerunner can get a fix with no help whatsoever, it'll just take longer. This is where the AGPS can come in. Download some data off an assistance server, and suddenly your time to

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-27 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 02:30 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: I connect my 1973 to my car's AUX input and it sounds just fine. The issue he has is with the headset, not the jack. Either way, his assessment is true - headset quality and audio issues make using the Freerunner as a DAP

Re: Fast questions about GTA03

2008-06-27 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 15:09 +0300, Mikko Rauhala wrote: On pe, 2008-06-27 at 13:56 +0200, Lucas Bonnet wrote: Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I encourage you to get involved today. We need your help. Waiting for GTA03 is a possibility of course, but keep in mind how long it

Community Initiative GTK

2008-06-27 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hello, I'm wondering if there is any interest in maintaining the GTK software stack? Actually many companies have expressed their interest in a GTK based platform as it is perceived as more future proof than some kind of exotic software stack with a very small developer base. Lots of

Re: Community Initiative GTK

2008-06-27 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 17:27 +0200, Francesco Cat wrote: I must have missed something... Can you post some links to explain what are the future plans for the Software Stack? Will GTK not be present any more? Basically Openmoko has stopped the development of the GTK stack in order to start a new

Re: Freerunner @ pulster.eu Shop

2008-06-27 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 18:11 +0200, Bumbl wrote: Freerunner 299€ Headset 9€ Bag 19€ summa summarum 237€ Cheaper than trisoft (which doesn't ship the bag and the headset at all) and golden delicious which offer it for 350€ If one does not need it noone is forced to buy it As discussed, the

Re: Community Initiative GTK

2008-06-27 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 04:13 +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: Marcus Bauer wrote: Hello, I'm wondering if there is any interest in maintaining the GTK software stack? Actually many companies have expressed their interest in a GTK based platform as it is perceived as more future proof

Re: Fast questions about GTA03

2008-06-27 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 17:00 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote: my personal interest for the OpenMoko is as a device to display Virtual Reality (VR). That's a 3D application where a picture is mapped on a sphere or cube and rotated by the user. 3D-accelerated displays have a much higher frame per

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 18:24 +0200, Mathias Ballner wrote: hi all, today i tried to get the gps running, but i didn't get a gps fix i tested it with tangogps (nice tool!) and openmoko-agpsui the only output i got was: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/6d11990f0c82d92f0252742d7ef44950.png what

Re: Posible Bluetooth Keyboard

2008-07-07 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 16:39 -0600, michael irons wrote: The Stowaway from iGo / ThinkOutside works nicely for me. I was looking at that, but they seem to not be selling them anymore... Any ideas where to find one in US

Re: GPS

2008-07-08 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 13:36 +0200, flexd wrote: Im actually having some trouble installing that, it says: / [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin# opkg install http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/util/gps/openmoko-agpsui_0.1+svnr7-r0_armv4t.ipk Downloading

Re: T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01?

2008-07-09 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 09:25 +0200, thomasg wrote: ASU works basically, but getting telephony work with it is a matter of luck. Mostly it doesn't work at all, mostly the qtopia phoneserver eats 90% CPU.. You may have one of the broken GSM modems. From my four phones two have a broken GSM -

Re: T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01?

2008-07-09 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 16:38 +0200, thomasg wrote: Like said before, they are (at least for me) all but working well (not even to mention the UI design with 2-color icons without ever knowing what they might mean). Some of the icons are all but intuitive but this is a question of the icons and

Re: x offset in landscape mode

2008-07-10 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 21:28 +0200, Michael Kluge wrote: Hi all, I have a slight problem with the landscape mode. It seems that the touchscreen subtracts some value from the x position where I touched the screen with the stylus. The y value seems to be fine. If I tap on the '+' on the

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-15 Thread Marcus Bauer
Confirming this too. Under decent conditions first TTFF 130s, then after a power down/power up it was ~40secs. Never saw it that fast on the Neo1973. Excellent! Well, more or less :o) On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 12:42 +0200, thomasg wrote: Hi ppl, I write this to community, not to devel or

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-15 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 12:42 +0200, thomasg wrote: First results show at the same devices, even outdoor, that there is no fix in over 400 seconds with SD card, the signal seems to be at least 10 to 20 dB worse (so bad, that most satellites don't even appear). confirming this too. I never saw a

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-16 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 09:22 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Alejandro - This issue does not look good. Is there someone in Openmoko or FIC aware of it? Aware of it? You must be kidding. Dear Wolfgang, there remains one question that the community has to you and it is even more

Re: New Freerunner, factory image - Registering...

2008-07-16 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:01 -0500, Greg Bonett wrote: Anyway, once booted to the factory image I get continuously a Registering... message in the top-left corner of the Home screen. After 30 minutes or so this message persists. Did you get this resolved? I'm having the same

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 21:38 +0200, Alasal wrote: What is the problem? - The Openmoko Freerunner have a long TTFF with the SD card in the phone. So it takes a long time (10min+) before you get your first GPS data. More specific: the GPS signal level drops by -20dBm, i.e. factor 100. Signal

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 23:00 +0200, Yorick Moko wrote: question: does the lower signal also effect accuracy? It is a good deal more jittery. However, if you drive around in a city you will get a lot more error from signal reflections than from the jitter. IMHO nothing to worry about.

Re: New Freerunner, factory image - Registering...

2008-07-17 Thread Marcus Bauer
You could post the output of logread -f On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 09:42 -0500, Greg Bonett wrote: Although I'm still having trouble getting this SIM card to work but I think it's doable. It actually registered last night and I was able to make and receive a phone call. After a reboot it went

Re: Problem in logging in freerunner through ssh

2008-07-17 Thread Marcus Bauer
Paul Bonser answered already with the fix. I'll add the reason: whenever you connect to an unknown system, you are asked if you want to accept the key like this: - The authenticity of host '192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202)' can't be

Re: Problem in logging in freerunner through ssh

2008-07-17 Thread Marcus Bauer
Somewhere on the wiki is a description how to shut this behaviour off, but I hope nobody will ever inactivate this vigilance. Thanks for the explanation... Regards... I have to add that Joachim Steigers suggestion is very okay too, as it only

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-18 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 17:05 +0200, Alexander Köb wrote: Hey Michele, Michele Renda schrieb: I am an Electronic Engineer but I will bring to a place where repair telephone, and with 5 Euro they will do for me. if you know of a place where they do that for 5 EUR, please let me know,

Re: Influence of WiFi on GPS readings (200m error)

2008-07-21 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 07:54 -0700, C R McClenaghan wrote: I'm not sure where the fault lies, but with tangogps, I seem to get a scatter plot displayed for my position. Initially the fix seems accurate, then it starts to wander, although I may not be. If I am moving, the trial doesn't

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-24 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 21:03 +0200, Yorick Moko wrote: i tried to walk with tangogps and sometimes i jumed 1-2 km in a random direction and kept drifting there were no roads in openstreetmaps for my location, could this influence it? No, that is definitely not the case. But occasionally I

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-24 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 09:42 +0300, Timo Jyrinki wrote: 2008/7/24 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: fixed a long way back in the route. I didn't have a tile cached for the area I had walked into. When I zoomed out to a scale where I did have a tile cached it redrew the track, this time following

RE: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld

2008-07-28 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote: Of course!!! Every toolkit is allowed. The whole point about FSO is to free people to pick their toolkit! The opposite is true. FSO forces you into ASU. It basically makes all work that has been put into OM2007.2 useless. Please stop telling

RE: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld

2008-07-29 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 01:08 +0200, Kristian 'kriss' Mueller wrote: Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 00:46 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote: Of course!!! Every toolkit is allowed. The whole point about FSO is to free people to pick their toolkit

Re: Openmoko on Design

2008-07-29 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 17:14 -0700, ian douglas wrote: And while Openmoko is working on their own framework, I have to agree with many other voices: knowing which platform to develop for, as a developer myself, is confusing. This is exactly the point. Openmoko should be like Ubuntu:

Re: Openmoko on Design

2008-07-29 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 00:35 -0700, Brian C wrote: [snip lots of very clever thoughts] So, I'll ask again: does Openmoko intend to allow direct code contributions by community members to core components of the ASU/FSO frameworks? It would be better to get rid of this whole framework concept

Re: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld

2008-07-29 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hello John, thanks for taking the time for writing your answer. On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 18:38 +0800, John Lee wrote: Part of my current work requires me to use fso daily. It seems strange that what I know seems to be different from what you know. * fso does not force you to ASU or closely

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:46 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 15:28:56 schrieb rakshat hooja: Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it. Not to start a flame war but even I would

Re: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld

2008-07-29 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:26 +0100, Tim Coggins wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from tangogps. Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it. OM2007.2

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:49 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: @Marcus - My main job is to sell the Neo ( I work for a distributor) and tangoGPS is the application that impresses my clients (and me) the most (even though we hardly have OSM data for India!). I would love to see it continue to be

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:47 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: Well, i like tangoGPS very much. But it is hardly a comprehensive solution. First it's only a tile viewer for online maps. No routing, no offline maps. I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is ready for routing this will take at

Re: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld

2008-07-30 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 13:37 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 7/29/08 Marcus Bauer wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote: Of course!!! Every toolkit is allowed. The whole point about FSO is to free people to pick their toolkit! The opposite is true. FSO forces

Re: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld

2008-07-30 Thread Marcus Bauer
Neos will be produced - Marcus Bauer -- developer of tangoGPS ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like communityapplications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-08-03 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 11:25 -0700, steve wrote: Bike mount? Or car mount? Guillermo how hard is that? The rubber skin is cool: http://www.sureda.org/Portfolio/Electronics/OpenMoko/Accesories/NeoSkin/OpenMoko-NeoSkin-StandardFrame.htm ___

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

2008-08-13 Thread Marcus Bauer
PROTECTED] (RHK) wrote: I have contacted the developer (not about this though) to ask if there is a svn repo or something for the community to participate. He (Marcus Bauer) answered that there only the source codes of releases are available currently, he's been developing tango only

Re: debian and tangogps

2008-08-17 Thread Marcus Bauer
, - Marcus Bauer -- Lead Architect Developer of tangoGPS ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Navit patch for faster map dragging

2008-08-20 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 13:04 +1000, Dale Maggee wrote: so I tried: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/navit# /etc/init.d/gpsd start and got: Starting gpsd: No GPS device, aborting gpsd startup. Check /etc/default/gpsd The line in /etc/default/gpsd needs to read (for freerunner):

Re: (Some?) 3G support for Linux from Nokia - relevant for future models?

2008-09-17 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 05:45 +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: I would beg to differ. Trolltech is now part of Nokia, Qt and Qtopia certainly are open source and I can tell you for certain, we are committed to keeping them open source. I wonder what your plans are for the phone stack? I doubt that

Re: TangoGPS svn/git ?

2008-11-10 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:31:20 +1300 Glen Ogilvie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A friend and myself are planning on contribute to TangoGPS. Looking for the git / svn repository we can pull the latest source from? Does anyone know if a repository for tangogps exists? The latest on the

Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1

2008-12-17 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hey guys, fully in the spirit of release early, release often we want to announce hackable:1, a new distribution for the Neo and other hackable devices. What is hackable:1 ? Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the OM2007.2 applications, extending

Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1

2008-12-17 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:27:19 -0500 (EST) Paul Wouters p...@xelerance.com wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Marcus Bauer wrote: * GPS works out of the box It comes as a tarball, thus you need a 2 GB SD card (SanDisk work well) Is the GPS+SD card problem solved yet? Yes, the fix

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