Re: Wiki editors

2008-07-16 Thread Marek Lindner
On Thursday, 17. July 2008 08:25:54 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: BTW, has anyone asked Brenda if she wants in on this? And have time for it? Happy to see that you bring that point up. I had a long and healthy discussion with her. The bottom line is: - She really appreciates your wish to help and

Re: Wiki editors

2008-07-18 Thread Marek Lindner
On Thursday, 17. July 2008 20:34:40 digger vermont wrote: - Mailing list fit into the Western style of communication not in the Eastern style. I'm curious, what would be the Eastern style? Eastern people try to avoid all public discussions for various reasons: - They don't want make other

Re: Public build host (proposal)

2008-07-23 Thread Marek Lindner
Hi, since it seems to be extremely difficult to build software for the OpenMoko on my home machine, perhaps it would be usefull if someone (within OpenMoko?) would set up a globally reachable build host with an openembedded and toolchain environment on it. could you describe what kind of

Re: Openmoko on Design

2008-07-29 Thread Marek Lindner
Hi, At the same time we heard comments from a key developer who indicated that the decision was made above him by unnamed individuals with whom the community has no obvious means of communication, and who apparently don't even listen to the reasonable technical arguments of key developers.

Re: Openmoko on Design

2008-07-29 Thread Marek Lindner
On Tuesday, 29. July 2008 19:19:10 Al Johnson wrote: Whether the term is 'key developer' or just 'a developer' is irrelevant. The issue is the total lack of communication over removal of a function many in the community, not to mention said developer, have good technical reasons to see as

Re: Openmoko on Design

2008-07-29 Thread Marek Lindner
On Tuesday, 29. July 2008 20:17:00 Chris Wright wrote: But you do have a design team, according to Rasterman. Of course we have. How do you think we are trying to get to a device that is ready for end user ? And this is just the beginning. We will work with more designers for the UI, the

Re: Openmoko on Design

2008-07-29 Thread Marek Lindner
On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 04:57:27 Chris Wright wrote: Where I work, the design team is the same as the development team. May I ask where you work and what kind of consumer products you are creating ? Something as simple as a keyboard button -- well, users were complaining about its lack

Re: More info on on ticket #666 SIM Card problems.

2008-07-29 Thread Marek Lindner
On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 08:15:52 Adam Talbot wrote: There is a new bit of debug on ticket: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 I am not sure if this is the right place to send this, but here is my out put. Please inform the devel or support list about your results. Also, it may be

Re: ASU - opkg upgrade - is it possible to exclude some packages?

2008-07-29 Thread Marek Lindner
On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 06:13:02 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: After an 'opkg update' today, I did a 'opkg -test upgrade'. And opkg still wants to install a Neo1973 kernel on my FreeRunner: Is there a way to tell 'opkg upgrade' to upgrade everything except the kernel? Please open a bug report

Re: Openmoko on Design

2008-07-29 Thread Marek Lindner
On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 10:18:33 Al Johnson wrote: I agree with everything you say here. The keyboard should just appear when I want it and disappear when I don't. The absence of a manual override means that whenever it gets it wrong I can't correct it, the worst case being when I need to

Re: Openmoko on Design

2008-07-30 Thread Marek Lindner
On Thursday, 31. July 2008 05:24:45 Josh Monson wrote: Or is Sean saying that this would be an option if it was in the form of a package, so if the package was built (by the community) then you would have the choice to toggle or not to toggle? I am assuming that functionality was removed so

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-08 Thread Marek Lindner
Hi, by the way, is uboot file necessary ? I think it would be nice to have everything in one place. :-) Marek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Ahah: and you released anyway ? - Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

2008-08-13 Thread Marek Lindner
On Wednesday, 13. August 2008 18:02:35 Michele Renda wrote: People like you bring firms to have a close development process. Following our new trac culture: +1 Marek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Is Neo1973 truly abandoned?

2008-08-14 Thread Marek Lindner
On Friday, 15. August 2008 02:03:43 John Locke wrote: How many GTA01s did you sell? Gotta be a few thousand. I'm sure we all bought them assuming *someday* we'd have a usable phone. Right now, I have a usable GPS, thanks to TangoGPS, other than the fact that the battery dies before I finish

Re: 2008.8 update

2008-08-26 Thread Marek Lindner
On Tuesday, 26. August 2008 16:31:45 Jelle De Loecker wrote: Well, look at those filenames: 20080826-asu-stable-rootfs.jffs2 http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/20080826-asu-stable -rootfs.jffs2 It's a filename which actually makes sense! Anyhow, I installed the 20080808

Re: 2008.8 update

2008-08-26 Thread Marek Lindner
On Tuesday, 26. August 2008 17:34:40 Yorick Moko wrote: Seriously, I appreciate all your efforts, but some things I just can't grasp: Why would any sane man remove items that provide useful functionality (the wrench, full qwerty) without providing an alternative?? You guys know a lot of us

Re: 2008.8 update

2008-08-26 Thread Marek Lindner
On Tuesday, 26. August 2008 18:07:25 Yorick Moko wrote: Marek, installing that illume-config package was the first thing I did yesterday. It only gives the qwerty button in the upper left corner. I have not found a way to enable the spanner. It should do both (as the description indicates).

Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-27 Thread Marek Lindner
On Wednesday, 27. August 2008 17:08:34 Al Johnson wrote: Sounds good so long as the packaging stops people accidentally breaking things just by installing a package. The problem installing 2 diallers is a recent example where it didn't work. Also how will it handle the situation where

Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-27 Thread Marek Lindner
On Wednesday, 27. August 2008 22:27:37 Rod Whitby wrote: Will you be autobuilding from the OE git repository or the OM git repository? AFAIK it is based is a OM git repository that closely syncs with OE git. Julian and/or Graeme can give details about that. If the latter, will non-Openmoko

Re: Feeds for testing packages

2008-08-29 Thread Marek Lindner
On Friday, 29. August 2008 13:31:57 Jean-Eric Cuendet wrote: Could someone explain me what's the diff between: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/ buildhost should be ignored as all official builds / packets are published on downloads. Our admin team is working on the shutdown of

Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-30 Thread Marek Lindner
On Saturday, 30. August 2008 14:08:48 Rod Whitby wrote: I'm still waiting for Openmoko to decide which branch they are using, so I can advise people how to build Om2008.8 properly using MokoMakefile. The decision is made. Julian tried to explain it before but I can try it again: It used to

Re: Mokomakefile

2008-08-30 Thread Marek Lindner
On Saturday, 30. August 2008 15:17:35 Rod Whitby wrote: OK, can you describe *exactly* how you built that released image and how you build those updates/fixes, so that others can replicate. 1) Git repo site 2) Git repo URL 3) Git repo branch 4) DISTRO setting (assume openmoko, but please

Re: testing 20080901 first steps to 2008.09??

2008-09-01 Thread Marek Lindner
On Monday, 1. September 2008 18:22:56 David Samblas wrote: Inspite the it's really barebones, I have seen very interestings things by default, the raster ilume pack: qwerty on/off button the illume keyboard (oh Yes! :) ) illume configuration the backgound image is pretty zen and

Re: Please add me to the planet

2008-09-19 Thread Marek Lindner
On Saturday, 20. September 2008 08:52:14 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: If you could please add my openmoko articles to the planet, I'd be pretty much grateful. http://blog.1407.org/tag/openmoko/feed Best would be you open a bug at http://admin-trac.openmoko.org/ Marek

Re: [2008.x] Settings app not working

2008-11-17 Thread Marek Lindner
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 01:40:42 Ivar Mossin wrote: November 1st I upgraded from 2008.9 stable to 2008.x testing, using opkg update opkg upgrade. This broke the settings applications which no longer starts. I have just now updated and upgraded again to see if there would be a fix in the

Re: [2008.x] Settings app not working

2008-11-19 Thread Marek Lindner
On Wednesday 19 November 2008 22:29:58 Ivar Mossin wrote: So... What would have been the preverred way of figuring which packages I would need to install? Is there a list somewhere on the net/wiki/anywhere else? Are there some meta-packages I could have installed instead, like 'opkg install

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Marek Lindner
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 20:52:13 Gothnet wrote: OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtopia is fairly limited. I know it's important for OM to keep moving forward, but really, focusing on gta03? Already? It's been a few months since GTA02 went GA and we

meeting in Braunschweig

2009-01-07 Thread Marek Lindner
Hi, yesterday, we (Mickey, Daniel, Jan, Stefan, Ray and me) sat together in Braunschweig to discuss the next steps regarding the builds / images / feeds / 2.6.28 / etc. Here is the summary of the outcome: = latest / experimental package feed * This feed contains the latest version (autorev)

Re: Community Updates/February 6, 2009 released

2009-02-06 Thread Marek Lindner
Hi, There was no reason to react so. Brenda just forgot to mention the work team. I think we all know that X.org is not done by Openmoko. ok, let me update you on that: In the last 2 months OM hired 2 developers to work full time on X.org (Juan + Jorge). Yes, it took a while to find these