Re: OpenMoko codesprint at FSCONS, 24th Oct

2008-10-10 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi Fredrik, thanks for the kind words, I thought I'd chip in with an article on http://www.linux-magazine.com[1]. Looking forward to seeing you and other Openmoko enthusiasts and freedom activists at FSCONS [2] ;) /mirko [1] http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/

Paroli project

2008-11-03 Thread Mirko Lindner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, FSO and EFL are ready for deployment, tichy is waiting for plugins and Openmoko is steady on course. So now it is time to take the next step. Meet paroli. It will combine the technologies mentioned above in order to provide a unique user

Re: Paroli project

2008-11-03 Thread Mirko Lindner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marco, My main question is how to manage the PIM. Will you wait for the FSO PIM implementation or is there any other way to manage contacts and SMSs (first of all) without using the SIM? For now paroli only supports the SIM card, but as I

Re: Paroli project

2008-11-04 Thread Mirko Lindner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Julien, Just so you know, SHR already chose this path, and we successfully built our dialer based on EFL (and currently moving to elementary), using frameworkd, and libframeworkd-glib which is used as a tool allowing the developer to forget

Paroli + Tichy

2008-11-11 Thread Mirko Lindner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, last week I told you a bit about the paroli project and what happened so far. I want to keep you updated and maybe bring a little more light into the darkness surrounding paroli. There where two main tasks for the past week: a) make paroli run

[Paroli] Update #3

2008-11-18 Thread Mirko Lindner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, A quick update on things happening on the paroli-front. In short the svn is growing in size and so is the wiki. I just uploaded a new version of the paroli-dialer application which makes use of of edje rather than a toolkit. This version of

Re: [Paroli] Update #3

2008-11-19 Thread Mirko Lindner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I used the current tichy fresh from the git and adjusted the runparoli page [1]. Should you have further problems please let me know and I'll try to help and also start collecting for a FAQ or common problems while installing. Ah, btw there were

Re: [Paroli] Update #3

2008-11-19 Thread Mirko Lindner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 22:13 +0100, Mirko Lindner wrote: This is a version without functionality, but implementing this is not difficult and the dialer has been written to be easily adapted to actually work. The reason for this non-working

Re: paroli development

2008-12-16 Thread Mirko Lindner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hej, sorry it took a bit. As there was not much response I thought this might be due to lack of communication from my part. I have to admit paroli is rather well hidden right now, but I am working to change that. So far I am happy to say, that

Paroli Base

2009-01-09 Thread Mirko Lindner
The Paroli Team wishes all of you a happy new year. Our last update was a while back but development continued and, despite sickness, vacations, Christmas, New Year's as well as jet lags, a lot has been accomplished. Most importantly, you can now find a paroli package in the testing

Re: Paroli Base

2009-01-09 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi again, just a small note, paroli nedds enlightenment and Illume and relies on a standard keyboard being configured in Illume. /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Paroli Base

2009-01-09 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Do we have to kill or remove qpe to use Paroli ? (any resources conflict maybe ?) The fso might have a problem with qpe, so I guess a clean fso M4 or 4.1 is safest ;) /mirko Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Paroli Base

2009-01-09 Thread Mirko Lindner
/ Le vendredi 09 janvier 2009 à 10:53 +0100, Mirko Lindner a écrit : Hi, Do we have to kill or remove qpe to use Paroli ? (any resources conflict maybe ?) I just installed paroli on 2008.12. I can start PLauncher (despiste some crashes) but couldn't register so far. * does paroli

Re: Paroli Base

2009-01-12 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi William Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 10:40 +0100, Jorge Luis Zapata wrote: Just an observation - looking at your website in firefox, the white text on very dark grey is readable, but the dark grey on very dark grey is barely visible and to all intents unreadable - more contrast

[paroli] update week 6/09

2009-02-02 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi all, in the good tradition of weekly updates we will try to to get back on track of keeping you posted on current developments in the paroli and GUI section. For the code base of paroli(d) the past weeks development has been focused on the core on the one hand and finishing the first set

[paroli] Paroli says: Hello World

2009-02-03 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Just in time with FSO’s Milestone 5 we are releasing our first tutorial. It outlines how to create a simple app, write a simple service and do some basic interaction with edje. read more at: http://www.paroli-project.org/2009/02/03/paroli-says-hello-world/ /mirko

Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-04 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, The paroli version used in MS5 seems very very old (in paroli terms) I will try to get it updated. /mirko Marc Bantle wrote: Hi, I just installed FSO M5. Are the paroli-apps that come with M5 supposed to work ? I always get the following error: root INFO launch

Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-04 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, We updated a few things and think we are ready to change the sec rev. I also changed the setup.py a bit so it should be easier recognizable what to do ;) In essence,just click the icon on the desktop (there is only the PLauncher) and that should open a launcher window. Would be great if

Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-09 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Arigead wrote: Got python-edbus installed but still hitting problems with running paroli on MS5. My Python is not good enough for my looking at the code to have any point but if I get a chance later I'll try find the source of the problem. If anybody has any ideas in the mean time that

Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-10 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Hi Mirko, according to the Paroli web pages this is a good a place as any to discuss issues on Paroli. Perhaps it'd be better on Devel which doesn't see much action these days? Either one works, if we get to technical devel is probably better. Anyhow thanks for your help I got

Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-11 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, I am almost certain that that is not a paroli error. See more comments below: Arigead wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok now I've got Paroli up and running and removed the test stuff from the config file. I'll cut and paste the output to the terminal windown.

paroli package is back

2009-02-17 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, after some long struggles the paroli package is back. There is packages in fso MS5 openmoko unstable (those two are the same) as well as openmoko experimental. The latter should be build from the latest revision. A small manual how to get it: Install the following: kernel:

paroli meets fso

2009-02-17 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, I met with the fso team last week and wanted to share some of the outcomes. We talked about releases and especially about what we need for a fully functional paroli. We came up with fso milestone 5.5. It will focus on the tings desperately needed for paroli - namely bluetooth, pim and some

Re: paroli package is back

2009-02-17 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Sven Klomp wrote: Hi Mirko, create a file in the /etc/opkg folder with the content: src/gz openmoko-experimental-armv4t http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/armv4t Then do an opkg-update and opkg install paroli . Hm, paroli is downloaded from :

Re: paroli package is back

2009-02-17 Thread Mirko Lindner
opkg update - install paroli opkg install paroli - launch paroli on your desktop click the icon named PLauncher the paroli launcher will appear might ask for your PIN etc. Once the gray overlay disappeared from the launcher you can start Tele and make a call :) /mirko Mirko Lindner wrote: Hi

Re: paroli meets fso

2009-02-18 Thread Mirko Lindner
+ef21f72ff9e33d1a083bc933e4e3824b28207a18-r0_armv4t.ipk This should contain the msgs application and there is some storing of contacts in tele as well. see: http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/tele/ /mirko qhaz wrote: Mirko Lindner-2 wrote: Hi, I met with the fso team last week and wanted to share some

Re: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released !

2009-02-20 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, I can't speak for the whole engineering, but I can bring light on paroli and the respective images. Over the past 7 days we have: - gotten daily build unstable images which by now boot directly into paroli

Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)

2009-02-20 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Scott Petersen wrote: No need to wait. I have been using Paroli as my daily phone software on FSO MS5 for almost 2 weeks. It has been extremely stable. A bunch of functionality is not there yet but the one basic thing that has just worked is as a phone. Dialing works, answering works,

Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)

2009-02-23 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Brenda Wang wrote I have updated the Paroli 's information on Wiki page. And continued maintain this page. Feel free to use it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli Great, thx. I changed the links a bit to match the new locations. /mirko

Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)

2009-02-23 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Timo Jyrinki wrote: What plans are there for I18N of Paroli? I'd like to already start doing initial translations for various Paroli applications, but I do not see gettext usage / .pot files etc yet. I have to admit right now there are no plans as such. I guess using gettext for the

Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button

2009-02-26 Thread Mirko Lindner
c_c wrote: Hi, The freerunner and 1973 have only 2 buttons. While the power button is being used for suspend and for switching off, the 'AUX' button seems under utilised. I was wondering whether there could be a method added to FSO that allowed overloading of this button based on the

Re: Want to keep up with times.

2009-03-01 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej Ilya, Ilya O. wrote: 1) How long FreeRunner currently works as everyday phone? (Please, tell me that it can survive for a day). It can indeed survive longer than a day. Mickey did some tests and published the results here on the list. 2) What distribution is currently developed by

Re: Om2009 release plan

2009-03-02 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, Can you clarify sliding in UI? Sliding here means any form of scrolling and dragging. Scrolling of lists such as contacts, messages etc and sliding of items in that list t have secondary functions connected to those. Our problem here is, that the py bindings for etk are broken (and

[paroli] weekly update week 10 of 2009

2009-03-03 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej all, here an overview if the highlights of the things the paroli team has been working on in week 9 and the first part of week 10: -the msgs application is in and being shipped in every build you can view, send, receive, answer to and forward messages also it will offer you to save any

[paroli] codesprint coming closer

2009-03-03 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej all, I just wanted to send a gentle reminder about the upcoming paroli codesprint at the Chemitz linux days. It is a whole day of live coding and hacking in paroli. I thought we should focus on getting a flexible, stable settings application in paroli. The foundations have been written

Re: How to use other applications with Paroli fullscreen?

2009-03-06 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, I've been tracking OM unstable. Now that Paroli is starting at boot with a full-screen I can't figure out how to start any other applications outside of using ssh. Then once started the application doesn't have the Illume top-bar available to do any of the functions it provided such as

Re: IRC conversation with Mirko from the Paroli team

2009-03-15 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, I tried to stay out of this thread as the discussion drifted away from paroli towards general discussion about OM's behavior, which is not controlled by me, but it seems to me that here 2 things are mixed that simply are unrelated and I am being judged based on a conversation log(!) and

Re: paroli updates

2009-03-24 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Is paroli still being worked upon? I see that the latest git changes were made 10 days ago. Some kind of holiday going on? Sure, I am still fighting :) Stumbled across some issues that meant I had to do a lot of research etc. I am trying to get elementary in and etk out. That requires a

Re: paroli updates

2009-03-24 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Marcel wrote: Does this mean that paroli will finally also run on debian which is missing python-etk? I'd be really happy to hear that. :D That would be part of the deal yes :) I am not sure how long the switch takes, but I am doing my best. If anyone wants to lend a hand, I'd be

Re: Intone (0.24) Elementary based mplayer frontend

2009-04-14 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Oh - and paroli gives me an error that it wants to replace default.edj owned by elementary theme. Is that related by any chance? I think paroli might play a role here. The elm theme we install sets the text color in elm-entries to white rather than black. Afaik there is no way to

Re: [om2009] Reject incoming call

2009-04-14 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi there, HouYu Li wrote: Hi, all! Just tested om 2009 testing build. It is Nice. Glad to hear :) But.. how can I reject an incoming call?? The only button available is answer. The button to the left of answer (shoudl be a speaker symbol) disables all sounds and hitting the top bar

Re: [om2009] - send SMS GUI logic

2009-04-15 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, When I want to create a new SMS , it first shows me the num-pad to enter and then the text. Would it not be more easy to first type the sms , then select contact(s) || type the tel number in ? Does it make a difference ? Who is working on the GUI ? That would be me than.

Re: [om2009] - send SMS GUI logic

2009-04-15 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi again, blokkie wrote: Yes , Image you want to send a sms to a bunch of people , then you would have to enter all the numbers first (because you cannot select contacts from your phonebook yet :-)) , Actually you can, just tried it on testing again. Hit the number field (the place

Re: [om2009] - send SMS GUI logic

2009-04-15 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, arne anka wrote: assume, you want to sent the same message to several recipients. you type the msg once and select either a list of recipients (given, the ui allows that) or the message is avaliable again after sending and you can select another recipient to resend. in both cases

Re: [om2009] - Power Button

2009-04-16 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, blokkie wrote: Hi , When pressing the power button for 1 sec it powers off very fast . . This is _nice_ . I like it a lot. But there is no way to lock it or put it in sleep via this button What happens is indeed suspend, not a shut-down. In SHR there is a exelent way to trap

Re: Om2009 testing Release 2

2009-05-05 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi Petr, thanks for the detailed report and especially for sharing it. I already stated at the issues you mentioned and hope to report positive outcomes later this week ;) Some comments are in-line Keep it coming :=) /mirko Petr Vanek wrote: sending sms while off signal gave no error,

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-09 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Petr Vanek wrote: wow! i haven't tested stability, but the settings app is full of great features some of them missing in other distros i.e. message delivery notification and call forwarding. and i big plus - the responses are really fast. Glad you like it :) Can you let me know if

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-11 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, thanks for the kind words and the list of issues. We are trying to get all of them reproduced, so that I can hunt them down :) If you can reproduce the freezing issues or where the UI crashed, it would be great if you could open a ticket on http://www.paroli-project.org/trac and attach

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-12 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, Ben Thompson wrote: Hi Folks Has anyone else noticed that Om2009 does not suspend anymore after recieving a call? I think this only happens if it wakes from suspend in the first place. this is probably due to a problem in paroli. On activating a call it used to occupy the CPU

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-12 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Tom Yates wrote: i noticed that too. in at least one case, for me, it can also make no more calls itself (the call button in the tele screen does nothing). mirko, you sound like you've got a good handle on this. would more logs be helpful, or should i just say me too and sit down

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-13 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Warren Baird wrote: Hi all, I thought I'd share my experiences so far with the testing release. I've been using QT Extended 4.4.3 as my primary phone for more than 6 months now, but I decided to try putting the OM2009 TR3 build on my SD card to give it a shot. Great and thx for

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-15 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, Would you point me to link so I can watch for bug status and know exactly when om2009 ready for real-life testing? There is basically 2 places: the paroli trac: http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ and the om main trac: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ Hope those help, the channel paroli

[Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hey there, A lot has happened over the past couple of months, but most important in my mind has been getting OM2009 out into the hands of the community. When we set the very limited goals of OM2009 we had two goals in mind: 1. Give those members of the community who only wanted a daily

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, pike wrote: OK, I am inclined to try that. Yay :) Installations instructions say http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 If you have not upgraded the GSM firmware do that too but it doesnt say which version of firmware needs upgrading, or any way to check your current firmware

Re: Comments questions abou Paroli UI design

2009-05-16 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I really like the simple design but it must be easy to use, too, for a someone that steals my phone (or who I give my phone to :). On the other hand I'd like it to be colourful, with background image and everything but maybe that comes with the themes (if Paroli is

Re: [Om2009] comments about om2009

2009-05-18 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, thanks for sharing your findings. Really, all this is helpful to us! So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone

Re: [Om2009] comments about om2009

2009-05-18 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, Aapo Rantalainen wrote: So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone suspended. I turn suspending off in illumes

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hiya, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yeah, we want it all :) Yesterday I felt bold and flashed Om2009t3 onto my phone, but neither moko11 nor the new u-boot yet, though. Playing around without a SIM card installed, I found two problems

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-20 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, On Fri, 15.05.2009 at 12:53:22 +0400, Alexey Shvetsov alexx...@gmail.com wrote: You can read Cyrillic letters =) but you cannot write them. ticket already openned for it. will this work for other languages, too? Eg. Chinese comes to mind... Yes in fact

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-20 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Max wrote: As far as I understood it's just a text strings. Is that possible to change them without actually re-building paroli? It would be great if I could just edit some configuration file and set something like: utf8_str_IO = Call log/Журнал utf8_str_TELE = Звонилко utf8_str_MSG

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-25 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Sorry for the delay in answering, I was at a conference over the weekend. Ben Wong wrote: Thanks for the update. Unfortunately Om2009 is still not a usable phone out of the box for me. I realize that this is probably my fault for not persevering, but I will be reverting to SHR since

Re: Launcher/Home Page (Proof of concept) Working Release

2009-05-25 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, Johny Tenfinger wrote: so - the question I have - should this be a separate app - or should this be considered a proposal for the new Paroli UI Maybe your right with Paroli UI, but I, as SHR user, would more like to see it as part of libframeworkd-phonegui-efl ;) The launcher in

Om2009 testing releases

2009-05-26 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej guys, just a quick note about Om2009 testing releases. We won't follow our usual weekly schedule for now, as there are a few things that need fixing first. It is mainly stuff in the framework as well as paroli. Before these are fixed a testing release won't make much sense as it won't be

Re: New Open Hardware company

2009-07-20 Thread Mirko Lindner
to the blog roll. Is mirko the same Mirko Lindner who is used to work on paroli? Hehe, indeed :) I would like to see the team behind the project. Is it possible to have a short introduction interview with every member inside Qi company? Or is it the same tight-lipped policy as with Openmoko Co.? Check

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-24 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, On 24 Jul 2009, at 02:04, Nicola Mfb wrote: Hi! Is om2009 and paroli in a temporary sleeping status or was development terminated? Somethings changed in the last days and may be now there is less man power to improve them. Less man power is the right way of putting it. There still is

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-03 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, I am still alive and by no means agree that I am not doing anything. I would agree that I am not coding right now. I am in active contact with the pyneo crew, met with them in Hamburg and talked with fgau of epydial how to get the apps into paroli. MDT of pyneo who has started 2

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-03 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hey again, On 3 Aug 2009, at 19:01, Steven Le Roux wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Mirko Lindnervegyra...@paroli-project.org wrote: Hi, I am still alive and by no means agree that I am not doing anything. I would agree that I am not coding right now. I am in active contact with

Re: Om2009

2009-08-31 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hey, just wanted to add another 2-cents to the bucket, which by now should contain a lot of small change ... Reading some of the mails in this thread I think we need to get the definitions straight: - fso - phoning middleware - shr - a distro which comes with fso preinstalled - om2009 -