.
Shachar
Delays are likely.
If FIC is listening, I'm also waiting for the second gen hardware and
would like to see it ship as soon as it's ready. I don't care if the
software is pretty or even fully functional yet, as long as its upgradeable.
-Steve
Ian Stirling wrote:
I would like to see a bare GTA01 board being available - even after
GTA02 becomes available.
There was some previous mention of available parts. I'd like to be able
to buy the plastic case. That way I would have the option of possibly
doing a little hardware hacking along
on the impression I get from this list.***
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Harald Welte wrote:
On 9/6/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may be worth talking with ATI again. Since this announcement, I
[...]
As indicated previously, this agreement includes a statement that
OpenMoko will work on to-be-publicized documentation on the SMedia chip,
which
a better way.)
Notes:
It should be easy for a novice user to pick up the phone and turn data
usage completely on and off at will, at least for cellular.
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describes the classes:
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Brad Midgley wrote:
Steve
I wonder why this update can't be done in the field. The only cellular
phones I can think of that had radio code which wasn't field updatable
were AMPS phones with the firmware in (OT/E)PROMs. Surely the radio
firmware in the Neo 1973 is stored in some sort
a
little antsy regarding my future GTA02 purchase. Thanks for keeping us
up to date on this issue.
Does this mean future updates will also be made available, or is it a
matter of negotiating separately for each release?
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ambiguity. Failure to retrieve either would just be ignored.
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Thanks for letting us know so quickly. This definitely gives me
something to think about purchase wise. Please keep us informed as to
any future plans for alternate tri-band or quad-band hardware.
-Steve
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Unfortunately, this also affects the GTA02, which is now far too
/e5bcc84ba00ce053?lnk=stq=triangulate+group%3A*cellular*#e5bcc84ba00ce053
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Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK, legal matters aside, your network operators ALWAYS know where your
phone is: cell towers can triangulate the position of your phone(it's like
reverse GPS
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Subject: Re: Neo Freerunner manufacturing status
Hi Ian,
Since I'm in California and the factory is in China, it's a little
difficult for me
. And there
will be a discount.
Steve
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ramsesoriginal
the whole bag of parts; fix it your self.
or build a business around this service.
Let me think about it. Throw rotten fruit at this idea if you like.
Steve
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are proceeding with a series of
PVT builds to test the production worthiness of the design.
As those PVT runs get going, I'll update everyone on the results.
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screens? do
I pass those costs on everyone?
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I think spare parts
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On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 16:00 -0700, steve wrote:
I thought about spare parts a while back. The Issue
in stock for all the
customers? If you sell a Lamp, do you hold 3 years of light bulbs as spares?
basically, this goes to the definition of spare part. Im curious how they
define it.
Steve
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BIZ
Maybe I just create a spares product?
with 3 batteries, and some other goodies thrown in?
What goodies would go in that bag?
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I dont believe the replacements have the columb counter.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:05 PM
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) is that our device
checks the ID of the charger and then determines whether or not we can fast
charge. ( greater than 750ma I think... )
Steve
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Will,
On the web shop and the wiki I would like to see a list of suitable
replacements for the batteries ( nokia bl4,5,6 and clones) the charger,
the stylus, the headsets.
Steve
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ok, let me noodle on this a bit. I have some ideas.
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Cc: steve
Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner spare parts
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb steve:
Hi Kevin,
Libertarian as well here. The first charger I want to test is my iGo as
well.
A while back I discussed the fast charging issue with Engineering. I'll
revisit that issue and get
than
500ma from a PC USB. Somebody not in marketing should answer that question.
Steve
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Subject: Re
Thx.
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Engineering says: you can't have both, 1A charging _and_ protection for
every
Ya this nailed it for me. thx Michael.
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Ya, I started down the API path with Michael Shiloh a while back, but we got
diverted by other things.
Hi matt,
Lets talk about your ideas, we need to highlight the new hardware we
added. Let me know what you are thinking
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Steve wrote:
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:30:33 -0700
Subject: RE: Price of the Freerunner spare parts Yes,
The information about returns and defects etc needs to be shared. First,
however
number: xx and is located here: y could you please get it back
for me?
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As I explained a while back we had a few milestones to hit before beginning
mass production.
The First was DVT. Building phones and verifying the design. That's been
completed and so we have
Moved onto the next stage PVT. Verifying the design for Production. This
stage is always a bit annoying
I listen to ideas and proposals I havent heard.
Steve
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Hello,
Just
The FreeRunner uses a 500 Mhz CPU. The board design is rated to 400 Mhz.
So, if people check CPU processing specs they will see 500MHz.
Operationally, we limit it to 400 Mhz. For a varety of reasons.
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could run it at 500Mhz the battery life would suffer.
So. We designed it to run at 400. All the cpus are rated at 500.
Steve
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The accelerometers measure gforce. They measure this force at a certain
frequency ( the spec is out there) as with all accelerometers there is a
measurement error and a drift. the Phone has two 3 axis accelerometers, and
simple physics tells you if you have Xdotdot, Ydotdot, and Zdotdot, you
can
we actually wanted to promote local groups so we created a special product
for them
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a small group or club.
For these people we created a 10Pack. instead of 399 per phone, we will
charge 369 per phone.
Over the next few days I will explain the next steps we go through and how
the product will get distributed
Steve
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of them legal) so, the team will make a decision.
We won't please everybody, but it will be a rational decision, based on
cost of the extra goodies, availability, and importance, and your feedback
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Exactly why we decided to do the 10 pack!
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What about a nice wiki
price, and openmoko can focus on open source hardware and
software.
Steve
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the CAD files.
So, that is the direction I am working toward. Open Engineering. Open
Marketing. Open Sales.
These culture changes take time. But from Sean on down we are committed to
move forward with them.
Steve
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I'll get the dimensions on the 10 pack, but we have reduced the size of the
individual box very much.
If you want to guess at shipping, figure at 10 pack will weigh on the order of
3 Kilo, and use the dimensions
Of the Neo 1973 to figure the total package size.
The average of shipping a single
finalized.
I have a question about the '10-pack'. I'm thinking about getting together
a group order for my local LUG. Suppose we have 11 people interested? Is
it more a 10-plus pack, or would that extra 1 phone have to be ordered at
full 399 price?
steve wrote:
I thought I would combine
: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
2008/4/13, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to
add some other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
There won't be a charger in the standard box? And I thought there was a
custom charger
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The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone
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and no more stylus ?
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/4/13, steve [EMAIL
That will be the subject of my next post. It's somewhat complicated
With a host of side issues. I look at it like debugging code. I try to fix
One issue at a time. Then test my fix. Then move onto the next problem and fix
that.
So, We had to prioritize issues.
First: get a good product line up,
of course it has all the goodies.
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Thank you Steve for precisions.
One more
Ha,
Dont go encouraging me with wacky ideas I like.
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But is the software going to depend
Sorry,
I want to keep things as simple as possible for our shipping folks. So,
that's the current plan. I'll make rational adjustments as time goes
forward. Think about the 10 pack as a bulk product. That's what it is.
Steve
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yes,
I am trying to balance all of these issues and keep the ordering process
and fulfillment process simplified.
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2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone
Ok,
Well I apologize for killing the orange/white model. When I
get to place where I can figure what colors everyone wants and in what
ratios, then I can easily add colors. For now, folks are focused on the
innards and not the cosmetics.
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Thanks Erland,
I'm getting more info on the audio performance. I'll have samples arrive
in a couple of days and test the audio myself.
Bass for music was reported as a potential weakspot. So, I have to listen to
it. Then I have to make my input.
WRT the big CAP. I don't track the passive
.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 08:38 +0200, Erland Lewin wrote:
2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone.
2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine.
How long
Ok thanks dirk.
Frankly, some people thought the pouch sucked.
If I ship a pouch, you have no choice. you get my pouch.
My opinion: it's a phone sock.
Ideally I would love to have the community
develop this accessory if they want it.
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I think Michael and I were supposed to test the 8GB version.
Actually Michael tests and I say wow and great and then do the happy dance.
He'll be back soon. We will revert on this.
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(Treviño)
I use toothpicks. Free in most restaurants, every Swiss army knife has
one, and impossible to accidentally shine the laser into your eye.
:-)
steve wrote:
Ha,
Dont go encouraging me with wacky ideas I like.
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that the US product website support either PayPal or Amex in
addition to MC/Visa?
Thanks,
Matt
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Thank you Breakable.
We struggle long and hard with this question.
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Hi there,
I read some
USB cable will be in the goodies.
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It is not necessary to modify a
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Subject: Re: PVT Update.
steve wrote:
1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on after
this, but the image we commit is one we will stick with for a while.
Don't ask me what a while is. I'll talk about the software release
late Next week and let you
... and because of
the standard port every headset should work. I also thought that the
openmoko (GTA01) headset has no mic. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Kevin
Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 02:35 +0200 schrieb Marco Trevisan
(Treviño):
steve ha scritto:
Many people have voiced there opinion to me about what
of
the standard port every headset should work. I also thought that the
openmoko (GTA01) headset has no mic. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Kevin
Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 02:35 +0200 schrieb Marco Trevisan
(Treviño):
steve ha scritto:
Many people have voiced there opinion to me about what
Probably need to set up a wiki of stuff like this.
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of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
free of defects :)
2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive
tests.
Where we try to break the phone.
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, 12:36 -0700 schrieb steve:
Ok thanks dirk.
Frankly, some people thought the pouch sucked.
If I ship a pouch, you have no choice. you get my pouch.
My opinion: it's a phone sock.
Ideally I would love to have the community
develop this accessory if they want
wish, or decorate to your heart's content.
Half jokingly,
Michael
steve wrote:
Ok,
Well I apologize for killing the orange/white model. When I
get to place where I can figure what colors everyone wants and in what
ratios, then I can easily add colors. For now, folks are focused
My samples arrived!
I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have to
send them a copy of
My social security card or my taxes.
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) in the community
could see possibly some videos of the testing? namely the destructive
tests? i've learnt how to use technology by breaking it and would like
to see the snuf videos if possible
-nick
steve wrote:
ya, I was telling somebody earlier I worked on an experimental plane
for 5
I'll look into it
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I was wondering if it would be possible
i'll look into it, but this country by country selective processing is
defeating the purpose.
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the
destructive tests? i've learnt how to use technology by breaking it
and would like to see the snuf videos if possible -nick
steve wrote:
ya, I was telling somebody earlier I worked on an experimental
plane for 5 years: we built 2. 500 Million per copy.
we flew them
and PVT update
I wanna see a video of that happy dance xD
--- steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
I think Michael and I were supposed to test the 8GB version.
Actually Michael tests and I say wow and great and then do the happy
dance.
He'll be back soon. We will revert on this.
-Original
It's much more complex than that. We will quote in USD. We buy components in
other currencies, so as currency
changes, the value of what we hold changes as a function of currency
fluctuations. At this stage of the game, the currency we quote
in is a minor issue. That said , the dollar sucks.
a package for me!
Haha
But ARE you an american?? hmm
Perhaps you are an alien xD
Alexander Frøyseth
steve skrev:
My samples arrived!
I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have
to send them a copy of My social security card or my taxes
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Has somebody eaten a clown this morning at breakfast? ;-)
Of course noone really wants a pink freerunner, does someone?
steve schrieb:
| When I did my first MP3 in Aluminum I ran out and had it anodized gold!
| I was lucky to find
for it ;)
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:57:17 -0700, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My samples arrived!
I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have
to
send them a copy of
My social security card or my taxes
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awesome!
why does it matter that you are or are not an american?
-Kyle
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:57 AM, steve [EMAIL
Maybe we should just make an adventure film of Michael and Steve getting
FreeRunners.
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the Freerunner as an research item
On 4/15/08, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i'll look into it, but this country by country selective processing is
defeating the purpose.
Thank you! I really hope for the best:)
--
Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy
steve skrev:
The Happy dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypnlOJjC368
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Ole.
Let's do a thought experiment
I'll sell you all the red phones you care to buy at a deep discount.
In fact, I will promise never to sell a RedRunner and let you have
all of the red phone market.
How many would you buy?
Today, they like red, yesterday it was pink, Tuesday will be
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Has somebody eaten a clown this morning at breakfast? ;-)
Of course noone really wants a pink freerunner, does someone?
steve schrieb:
| When I did my first MP3 in Aluminum I ran out and had it anodized gold!
| I was lucky to find a place that was set up to do gold
Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two teenage
boys.
Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha.
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One goal of freeing the CAD , freeing the flesh of the phone, was to enable
others to seize these opportunities.
So, the CAD files for the FreeRunner are out there, before it has even
shipped. I think this decision is
underappreciated.
The per piece cost of plastic is small. Go price a pound
This is EXACTLY why we freed the CAD files
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2008
discussion
Subject: Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9
So it appears to be the destructive test ;)
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:41 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two teenage
boys.
Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha
Well, you actualy have to design the case to allow painting.
Paint has THICKNESS. So if you look at the clearence for buttons, you would
have one clearence
for a non painted plastic and a bigger clearence for a painted plastic part.
I have made this mistake before, when I wanted to change
to stress the phone? Or you? ;-)
-Steven
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:41 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two
teenage boys.
Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha.
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On Wed April 16 2008 2:30:04 pm AVee wrote:
On Monday 14 April 2008 01:13, steve wrote:
A. We killed the orange colored phone. May it rest in peace.
*snif*
I will now forever (or at least the rest of the day) regret not buying
a GTA01.
AVee
Are the GTA01
Pricing and PVT update
I've never used emachineshop, but I will ask around. Perhaps some of my
friends have.
Michael
steve wrote:
I love emachineshop.
I thought of approaching them to do some kinda co promotion. Maybe
Michael Shiloh can weigh in here.
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, that is moving enough units to make it
profitable for FIC and the accessories makers, we will see the CAD files be
put to use outside of hobbiests.
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Hugo Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:07:18AM -0700, steve wrote:
One goal of freeing
Subject: Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9. Teenagers stop fighting!
HAHA
How old are they?
steve skrev:
I decided to do a test of sorts. I gave a phone to the boys and decided to
let them see if they could
Figure it out. I gave them 1 bit of info. Go buy a Pay as you go phone and
make sure it's GSM
side), or the Y usb cable for
usb host?
Ivo
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:43 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
USB cable is in.
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Billaudelle
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Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
steve wrote:
USB cable is in.
Hello all,
Sorry to keep that up but I see three kind of potential cables and I'm
not sure which one you're talking about :
- First is male USB A = freerunner (USB mini AB, I believe
Our CAD files are open.
Anyone who wants to persue this as a business is welcome to.
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Subject: Re: Unofficial
I'll update in a bit, but for launch we put the focus on basic applicatons
for developers to get started. Dialer, contacts,SMS, and terminal.
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Groeneveld
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:41 AM
Ajit,
I will answer the question on warrenty in due course. For now, assume a
policy like we had on GTA01. 14 days for DOA. I'm working at coming up
with a more comprehensive policy. But Until then we will default to the last
known value.
Steve
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community discussion
Subject: Re: HAPPY DANCE version .9. Teenagers stop fighting!
Did they get WOW working? That's what I want to see ;)
(kidding..mostly..abt 98% kidding)
eric
steve wrote:
15 and 19.
I think they will probably get the video cable thing figured out.
And hopefully post
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