usb receptables from old motherboard = gender changer = usb host cable?

2008-08-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hi, I ripped http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/openmoko/2-usb-receptables.jpg from an old motherboard. Am I missing something here or could I solder these two receptables together so that they form a gender changer and then put it to the end of my normal openmoko usb cable to produce a usb host

Re: usb receptables from old motherboard = gender changer = usb host cable?

2008-08-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
I tried this USB gender changer and the voltage levels seem to go just about right: normal pc usb port == black GND green 0V white 0V red +5V freerunner as device black GND green 0V white 0V red 0V freerunner as host == black GND green 0V

Re: Openmoko presentation

2008-08-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Interesting. Few comments: 1) sudo echo foo sources.list does not work, you probably meant sudo sh -c 'echo foo sources.list' or even echo foo | sudo tee -a sources.list 2) Could you setup source repository (deb-src) for openembedded-sonkei? (If you are using reprepro I can help too). I

[WORKS] Re: usb receptables from old motherboard = gender changer = usb host cable?

2008-08-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything else looks reasonable. ID won't make trouble. Ha, I had a cold joint. When I touched green with a multimeter the device started to work! :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 011: ID 0553:0202

Re: [WORKS] Re: usb receptables from old motherboard = gender changer = usb host cable?

2008-08-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Olivier Migeot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When everything's settled, would you agree to write some schematics or a even a small howto on your work? It seems pretty interesting :) Yes, I am currently trying to figure out how to upload images to wiki. We have

Re: [WORKS] Re: usb receptables from old motherboard = gender changer = usb host cable?

2008-08-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Olivier Migeot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When everything's settled, would you agree to write some schematics or a even a small howto on your work? It seems pretty interesting :) I added instructions to the end of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_USB_host Please let me know what you

Re: [WORKS] Re: usb receptables from old motherboard = gender changer = usb host cable?

2008-08-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great, it's a handy solution. If I connect 5V from external, I can charge the Neo? Can I break something I Probably. Isn't the Three-Headed Cable chapter instructing you to do essentially the same thing? It's a shame that no motherboard has a set of _three_

Re: [WORKS] Re: usb receptables from old motherboard = gender changer = usb host cable?

2008-08-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But, you can't charge at all like that. As soon as you set hostmode - 1 then power path from USB socket to PMU is disabled (so it doesn't try charge from its own generated power). If you leave hostmode at 0, provide external power AND add 15K pulldowns

Re: How to see how full my battery is?

2008-08-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hi, kazaam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's some symbol in the try looking a bit like a black battery with a lightning symbol in it. Is this meaning it's loading? And where do I see how full it is? I tried acpi -v in the terminal but it seems openmoko is running without acpi. Try apm to see

aptitude install openembedded-sonkei fails [Was: Re: Openmoko presentation]

2008-08-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/openmoko-free-your-phone.pdf $ sudo aptitude install openembedded-sonkei Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information

Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I'm hoping for, is that the openmoko folks use the same software but start making .deb packages instead of .ipk ones :) So that it would be a phone. Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and debian (and fedora and gentoo)

Re: usb receptables from old motherboard = gender changer = usb host cable?

2008-08-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.amazon.com/USB-Type-Female-Coupler-Adapter/dp/B000I97N0S I will give one a try. Ha, too easy :-) If you try this, please let me know if you can get any keyboard or mouse work without a hub. (And tell the wiki too).

Re: USB keyboards silent in terminal (FSO)

2008-08-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hi, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been able to connect two keyboards, they light up but doesn't work in the terminal (FSO). Is there something I can do to enable input from these external devices? Does it work outside X? What does lsof | grep glamo print? What appears to

packaking Xglamo for debian?

2008-08-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hi, after reading http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I noticed that xorg was used and there was only a short chapter on how you can copy Xglamo to /usr/bin. Do both work? Does Xglamo offer some advantages over xorg? If yes, would it be appropriate to package it to

Re: FR and debian, seems it's progressing

2008-08-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is what I'm looking forward to. Something like this was what I always expected to have;). A great distro like debian just getting a GSM daemon that other apps could talk to. Just for the record: I just made a successful call on debian. Only hit a few

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

2008-08-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hi, [Cc'ing to illume author.] Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there an ETA on illume being packaged? Is there anything that can be done to help? I compiled e17 svn head and illume using http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/E17_User_Guide/Installing_Using_CVS on my debian

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

2008-08-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I changed the filesystem to ext3 after partitioning and i also changed the fstab to ext3. My guess is that the kernel does not have ext3 support. It is not properly packaged yet so I can't check /boot/config-`uname -r` to make sure though.

Re: Tester please?

2008-08-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://newkirk.us/om/dnscache_2.1.5_armv4t.ipk and let me know of any Hmm, how do I build this from source? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

2008-08-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: setup - so use x-ui.sh in the illume svn dir (it runs xephyr for you, sets up some modmappings for qtopia - not interesting on a desktop unless you have a desktop x86 build of the qtopia x11 port, and it runs e with the illume

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

2008-08-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. colors. what's up with your colors? are you on ppc? the 16bit engine assumes identical endianess to the host (for x) and doesnt do any proper changes. x86 in debian unstable chroot. 2. looks like you installed illume, but its

Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions

2008-08-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First thing is that i can't find the setting, when the display dims the brightness. The default setting dims it after some minutes (~3-5 min, i didn't measure it) what is way to late for battery usage. Also it would At the moment you need to edit the

29 hours in suspend = 70% battery left

2008-08-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hi, I just hold down power button for 2 seconds and put my freerunner to sleep with zhone on debian. After 29 hours I called it and it woke up with 70% battery left. It seems that c = self._commands[suspend] c.append( +CTZU=0 ) c.append( +CTZR=0 ) c.append( +CREG=0 ) c.append( +CGREG=0 )

Re: 29 hours in suspend = 70% battery left

2008-08-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I presume sound works after suspend? Yep. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 29 hours in suspend = 70% battery left

2008-08-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Benito Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is this? Can you explicate, where to write/pipe/put these lines? (Didn't get an idea from grepping /usr/share and /etc.) apt-get source fso-frameworkd and you'll see they are already in

Re: Debian Install.sh error when run under Qtopia

2008-08-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ganesha Krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: google for cdebootstrap-helper-apt and you get numerous reports on similar install failures on desktops, it seems to be a (well) known bug. I could not find a work around for it though (have not tried too hard), is there one ? As a temporary

Re: 29 hours in suspend = 70% battery left

2008-08-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Russell Sears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about incoming phone calls during suspend? Sorry for the delay, didn't actually answer my test call. Now I did another test (only 1 hour in suspend) and as expected it worked fine. Ringtone was heard and both parties could hear each other.

Re: 29 hours in suspend = 70% battery left

2008-08-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just wondering if you could try the test again, and see how long it lasts before it dies? I'm sorry but a) I can't have it idle for four days b) I don't want it to die :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: dfu-util

2008-08-25 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I push a new rootfs image onto my FreeRunner it takes aproximately 10 minutes. It's a PITA having to wait that long when I try to track down where some functionality got lost or went broken. If the issue is not kernel related you could just mount

Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 potentially solved

2008-09-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It should print something like '/dev/pts/2'. Now use 'minicom -s' and set the device under 'serial device' to the value printed by dbus-send. Wait for a response to the AT initiation sequence and then type in: AT%N0187 The modem should respond

Re: Sound problems under Debian

2008-09-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Sven Bretfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. There seems to be no sound at all. 'aplay file.wav' just pretends to play but neither gives any output nor returns the cursor. aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav plays here. I used alsactl store -f aplay-audible1.state to save my alsa settings

Re: gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?

2008-09-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Tom Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i can make a GPRS connection. when it's up, i can place a call, and the outgoing GPRS connection temporarily suspends. when it's up, incoming calls go straight to voicemail; the phone doesn't even give me the choice of accepting the call. I can answer

Re: Power drain on slee, Was: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop

2008-09-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: same here - i put freerunner to sleep ('apm -s') when i myself went Don't use apm -s directly. Before calling apm -s zhone will ask frameworkd to do all sorts of setup for proper suspend. If you don't do these the phone will wake when you e.g. move to

Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting

2008-09-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never again .. If it only overwrites the first 512 bytes you can surely easily recover these back by just running only the partitioning stage of the installer?

Re: gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?

2008-09-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Tom Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i'd be happy to; can you point me to any resource that lets me know a way of doing that? does the muxd have a flag that tells it to hive off a copy of the datastream (that'd be really handy about now)? The low-level way is to strace -o gsm0710muxd.strace

Re: Debian

2008-09-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You didn't read carefully. We do NOT want to split the list. We want people to prefix their messages with appropriate tags to make filtering possible. I think we should just ask people to write informative subject lines. Instead of Debian this thread should

Re: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop

2008-09-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Sebastian Ohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: here is a new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin. this one has a Is this for matchbox-panel? If so, can you please mention matchbox-panel in the package description? ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [debian] daily kernel and modules package

2008-09-13 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Andre Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I build a simple debian kernel package, containing the latest kernel and modules from [1]. This is only for convenience, Thanks, can you put the debian source package online as well? I'd like to add a few patches to it.

Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://rubino.dyndns.org/ Can you put the debian source package online too? best regards, Timo Lindfors ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [Smartphones-userland] [Debian FSO] GPRS dependencies

2008-10-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Luca Capello [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: necessary, since it removes some print calls. Can anyone confirm that the first part (pdp.py) is enough to have GPRS working on Debian? If it's like that, the package will be available late this evening ;-) Yes, you only need the first part. I initially

Re: media player for debian

2008-10-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can anyone recommend a media player for debian on my freerunner? the important things i need are: *library management *usable with finger - no stylus *support for mp3 or ogg, would prefer ogg Do you know if openmoko-mediaplayer2 would fill these specs?

Re: [FSO] GPRS

2008-10-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Second, where is it performing /etc/resolv.conf replacement, and how do I stop it? because the current behavior is very undesirable for me. I've grep -r resolv.conf . shows that ./framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/pdp.py does

Re: [debian] impressions from fresh debian install today

2008-10-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: enabled rightclick emulation with export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so. Thanks, that was a great tip. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: running om2008 as normal user

2008-10-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: which file is used to set the auto-login user? not sure -- but even changing that would not really help, since a lot of functionality simply requires root rights. _all_ distributions available suffer from the same big security issue that the run as

Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to write small app on my PC using neo1973's GSM modem. I'd like to somehow forward /dev/ttySAC0 and have serial device in my Linux' /dev and connect to it as to ordinary serial port. I have debian installed so I have an access to

Re: [debian/zhone] Start up customization

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In case anyone else wants to use it, my .xsession is now: Just for the record my .xsession (with gdm autologin) is now: #!/bin/sh . ~/.bashrc export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so setxkbmap fi xmodmap -e keycode 191 = ISO_Level3_Shift xset s 20 10 xrdb

Re: gsm and freerunner

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Guglielmo Dapavo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks like the gsm chip on the freerunner stopped working, I cannot register anymore to the network, tried resetting to the latest kernel and rootfs from 2008.9 and tested several sim cards but I cannot get a network registration anymore, what

Re: Touchscreen scratch protection

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative like http://www.zagg.com/ Call me paranoid but I bought both invisible shield(tm) and also keep the phone inside a leather case with

Re: How to change hardware, usbkeyboard layout?

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Morten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, i've been searching quite thorough but haven't found anything. The most logical thing for me would be to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it issn't there :S Maybe you are running xglamo instead of xorg? Can you try with xorg first?

Re: running om2008 as normal user

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been using debian so that all X apps run as normal user for almost a month now. with everything? suspend, gps, wlan, you name it? Yes except that wlan use is bit problematic because of http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1597 that I hit all the

Re: How to change hardware, usbkeyboard layout?

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Morten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah! Where would the config files for keyboard layout be for the xglamo then? Afaik xglamo does not do configuration files. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: just a question: How is the packaging of elightment+illume going? thanks (lokking forward for a usable keyboard on debian) I use xvkbd on debian with a layout that has minimal number of buttons so that they can be large. I can type quite accurately with

Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-02 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can you post your key-layout? or it's just the standard one without the keypad? Sure. I have http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/XVkbd-lindi in my home directory and xvkbd.compact: true xvkbd.customization: -lindi xvkbd.modalKeytop: true xvkbd.dictFile:

Re: epdf evince full screen fail

2008-11-02 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Risto H. Kurppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Evince presentation: you can click the screen to get to the next page. After the last page you get a black screen telling to press esc to close the view. This is not possible without a keyboard - and the button to launch the keyboard is somewhere there

Re: epdf evince full screen fail

2008-11-02 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Bryan DeLuca [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can download my script here: http://www.bryandeluca.com/OM/functions/omkey_functions Seems to be 404. Do you know how to make AUX send nothing? Here if I start cat from xterm and hit AUX I see ^@. Also if I start elinks I see that AUX sends ESC which

Re: Is there a dist with Some hidden Calypso commands included

2008-11-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Robin Häggqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Im looking for a dist that have implemented the magic Calypso commands that *might* solve the ECHO issue. I just want to flash my FR. I cant compile new kernels or modules or any of the other cool stuff you kids do. (Some day I might learn but not

Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging

2008-11-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i tried icewm but it's not that esay to make a UI finger friendly under debian... (matchbox it's the best imho but the scrollbar is really thiny). I'll try your configuration. Maybe it's must a matter of taste. I found icewm adequately usable so that

Re: GPG for SMS?

2008-11-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vinzenz Hersche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wich is in om 2008. sms/mms are a great securityhole now. with the fr, echo a a gpg --encrypt a already produces a file with 337 bytes. SMS only does 160 characters (I have forgotten how many octets it is). So you'd probably want to use symmetric

Re: [OM2008] Events/0 eats 30% -- Causing Doom to run slow.

2008-11-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
SCarlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the remedy for this? Reboot? (Like MS-Windows?).. Don't use wifi :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPG for SMS?

2008-11-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
rhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If they are encrypted, they probably are encrypted on the way to the operator only, so the operator can probably see the content. Of course. About calls - I remember I saw a documentary in which the calls interfered with TV sets, which allowed to hear the

Re: Accelerometer in Java

2008-11-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Sudharshan S [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think, there are DBus bindings for java. So you could probably take a look at the services offered by FSO for reading accelerometers output. Wouldn't that cause huge overhead? Reading 100 (or 400) events per second from two accelometers can not be

Re: Accelerometer in Java

2008-11-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Bernd Prünster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my question is: how do i read our data from the accelerometers in java? You open the file[1] and read data[2]. [1] /dev/input/event{2,3} [2] data is a steady flow of struct input_event { struct timeval time; __u16 type; __u16 code; __s32

Re: GPG for SMS?

2008-11-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vinzenz Hersche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: because they are uncrypt. and the gsm-connection isn't secure, some I thought they are encrypted just like calls. I asked this on #gnuradio too: 18:36 lindi- hi, i looked at the openbts SMS stack to figure out if SMS messages are encrypted or not but

Re: minimo segfaults when surfing to ssl sites with non-standard ports

2008-11-09 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Peter Nijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that knows something about ssl on the freerunner) it segfaults. I use elinks and iceweasel on my freerunner, they both do ssl. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC

2008-11-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: multiplexing bug that Mickey mentioned, as multiplexing in Debian is enabled . Instead of killall gsmd you want to say killall gsm0710muxd and ps -eo pid,cmd|grep framework[d]|awk '{print $1}'|xargs kill

Re: (Debian) IceWm running!

2008-11-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's indeed the tiny one I have now. Not sure how I can make the larger one come up, there must be a way... I could not figure out a way so I switched to xvkbd that respects the -geometry option. ___ Openmoko

Re: (Debian) IceWm running!

2008-11-16 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Tha_Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, I'm still not able to switch my desktop to landscape mode :-( apt-get install xserver-xglamo and xrandr -o 3 works. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: (Debian) IceWm running!

2008-11-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: using xrandr i have a strange behaviour... after restoring previous orientation I have very big fonts... why? and how to fix that? It's a known bug. http://bugs.debian.org/xserver-xglamo ___ Openmoko

Re: How to use links-x11?

2008-11-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But when I try to run it with links I get Illegal instruction all the time. Do I need to install something else? Which instruction is it? Use gdb --args links run bt x/4i $pc info register quit to find out

Re: Freerunner's GSM Calypso Modem Firmware Upgrade...

2008-11-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mostly useless, then. The improvements wrt. +CSIM won't affect basic operation. Is there a detailed changelog available for all the earlier versions? Would be interesting to know how gta01 images differ.

Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix

2008-11-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Fragggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the most important thing for me is, that after the update i get no gps fix anymore. Does the GPS chip have power? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [Debian][OM2008][FSO] Found an easy solution for universal right- and middle-click

2008-11-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Paul Fertser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just added to my fbpanel two icons to launch xmodmap -e 'pointer = 1 2 3' and xmodmap -e 'pointer = 2 3 1' to switch ts to left-click and to middle-click respectively. Right-click can be added as well. Does this work for you with xserver-xglamo? It

Re: [debian] how to avoid wsod?

2008-11-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Suddenly I get it all the time with Debian, probably after recent upgrades. Can you please downgrade? It would be imporant to figure out which upgrade did this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: debian and xfce?

2008-12-02 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vinzenz Hersche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /etc/init.d/zhone-session doesn't exist. ls-output: Have you installed the zhone-session package? so, where is the problem? is the article in the openmoko-wiki too much old? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner is the documentation your should

Re: Bounties?

2008-12-03 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Sargun Dhillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just out of curiosity, how many OpenMoko users out there would be willing to pay for bounties? Additionally, how many developers would work for bounties? What sort of bounties would you guys request? How much would you pay? How about using

Re: [debian] gps still no solution

2008-12-03 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: now: ogpsd comes with fso? ogpsd it's not packaged on debian (if it's It is part of fso-frameworkd package. It is not a separate binary or process. I'm sure that someone uf you uses debian with gps... how in the hell??? ;-) with old fso??? I use

Re: Why echo solution is not in framework?

2008-12-03 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1486414|a1518726 Grr, that link does not work without javascript. Had to wait a while for iceweasel to start. It works very well. So why it is still not in framework git? Does it have some drawbacks which

Re: [debian] gps still no solution

2008-12-03 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sorry but... as far as i know gpsd is not something to use with fso now... because fso uses ogpsd (that is embedded in fso)... or am i totally wrong? You just need to disable gpsd from frameworkd.conf ___

Re: ntpd status?

2008-12-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On desktops, I use ntpq, but this doesnt seem available on the FR - I have ntp, ntpdate and ntp-utils installed so far. Which distro are you using? ntpq is available on debian armel in the 'ntp' package.

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ---2 Mickey's framework milestones As many people know, the next big thing for Openmoko will be Mickey's FSO framework around d-bus and Python, and the Paroli telephony UI. Thank you very much for this overview of strategy. I have used

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EFL isn't exactly new, just not so popular as gtk+ or qt. Heh, maybe I'm just being a bit debian centric here. I saw libecore0 - Core abstraction layer for enlightenment DR 0.17 in debian experimental and thought that it can't be too

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our current stable image is called 'Om2008.9', available at http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/ We are sometimes cherry-picking fixes into it, but admittedly not as many as we would like. If someone wants to step up to become stable

Re: ALSA

2008-12-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Clemens Dörrhöfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any useful Information in the net, which tells me a little something about the big mistery ALSA on openmoko? After installing the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem has a useful block diagram and

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this is no fix... yes it consumes less globally than with the constant reconnecting, but a ton of c4 is also less harmful than an nuclear bomb doesn't mean we have to be happy with a ton of c4 in our pocket... It's better than without the fix so this

Re: ALSA

2008-12-11 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Angus Ainslie angus.ains...@gmail.com writes: pymixer will only save the state if you ask it to and should only change the controls relevant to that state. If you find it has different behavior please send me a bug report. Would it be possible to make pymixer take the path to alsa state files

Re: ALSA

2008-12-11 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Angus Ainslie angus.ains...@gmail.com writes: It could be changed but seeing as the current files are in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ I'm not sure what the objective would be. pymixer doesn't do the state transitions it only changes the mixer I keep them under /etc.

Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko?

2008-12-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com writes: Has anyone had any joy installing Egenix mx base on openmoko? Specifically I need mxDateTime, but I'm not having any luck getting anything installed: Not sure how much this helps with openmoko distro but with debian mxdatetime seems to install just

Re: Newer Navit

2008-12-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
dsca...@gmail.com writes: i tried the deb one [svn-1791] but apparently with no success... terminal output launching navit: illegal instruction It was obviously not compiled for armv4? If the provided source code you could apt-get --build source navit to get packages that work on your

Re: Newer Navit

2008-12-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
KaZeR ka...@altern.org writes: The .deb packages there are intended for pc-compatibles cpus. How can you install them on armel if they have architecture set to i386? dpkg should refuse. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters

2008-12-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com writes: nearly resolved in SHR for example, but the volume is still too low Have you set 'Speaker Playback Volume' to 127? extended period in phone. The Framework is making good progress, but i still miss calls or don't receive sms'es. Qtopia is ok (the

Re: Navit actions menu layout ?

2008-12-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Christian Anke carcin...@gmx.net writes: currently i'am working on an freerunner optimized version of navit. since the internal gui is available i love navit. and i want to Are you going to send the fixes upstream? ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Navit actions menu layout ?

2008-12-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Christian Anke carcin...@gmx.net writes: or is the navit svn repo for testing such changes? You better ask upstream directly in this case. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: Is there a way to do this ? while true; do if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then alert fi sleep 120 done Is there also a way when the device is in suspend mode, to wakeup and do this warning ? I'm guessing yes but I do not know the PMU

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes: Is that a solution if PMU doesn't support us with another solution ? Sure, make the phone wake up every 2 hours to check battery level. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko?

2008-12-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com writes: have to do then is get Debian to work on my openmoko ;-) Just install debian to chroot if you don't want to replace your current distro completely. http://iki.fi/lindi/schroot.txt has instructions on how to make this more or less transparent to use

Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

2008-12-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M of space

Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

2008-12-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: My problem now is, that i can't find any suitable file for wlan. I only Which kernel? andy-tracking de473 has one for wlan too. Btw, I have a similar script too. It tells me how many percentage units of capacity per hour were lost during suspend when the

Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

2008-12-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: That's not good. Is there another way to get the wlan status with help of a console command like dbus or anything else? I am not sure. There's an ioctl but it seems to give different results than the power_on sysfs node.

Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

2008-12-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com writes: echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/devices/s3c2440-sdi/driver/unbind Aha, so this should reduce power consumption? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [2008.12] Accelerometer latency

2008-12-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Charles-Henri Gros charles-henri.gros+openm...@m4x.org writes: Any ideas why this may be happening / how to fix it? Sounds like http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2145 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2008-12-26 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes: I experienced that rendering everything on debian is so slow... Are you using xorg or xserver-xglamo? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

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