Re: How about a slim Openmoko design?

2007-08-22 Thread ian douglas
Shawn Rutledge wrote: A lot of people say they want a plain old telephone without so many features, but it doesn't seem very interesting to me, and I'm not sure if they really want that either I've used various cell phones since 1996 and now seeing that it's nearly impossible to buy a phone

Re: Fwd: Myth Busting FTW

2007-08-31 Thread ian douglas
Thanks, Mike, for forwarding his responses. It's been interesting to hear more about his point of view from his original scathing article. Like many others, I couldn't finish reading his blog article either. -id Mike Hodson wrote: And what appears to be a final reply from Dan. --

Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors

2007-09-07 Thread ian douglas
Andreas Utterberg wrote: Better to get it out now with more bugs, then later with less bugs. I disagree: having *any* noticeable bugs in a release product will bring a lot of criticism. Having more bugs just to get a release out the door will generate a lot of bad press about the efforts put in

Re: webkit do_compile failed

2007-09-10 Thread ian douglas
George Barta wrote: Looks like we must also remove build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/libWebKitGdk.* Thank you for posting the fix, I've been stuck there for 2 days now :( I got past this issue without removing the above-mentioned file(s). Once I got past the webkit, I hit a

Re: application idea

2007-09-12 Thread ian douglas
... which doesn't help any if you're in the air-conditioned afore-mentioned airport in Arizona and you want to know how warm it is outside ;o) -id Baxter Kylie wrote: Actually, current temperature should be able to be picked up from the touchscreen if, that is, the touchscreen is heat

Re: application idea

2007-09-17 Thread ian douglas
Tilman Baumann wrote: The biggest challenge would be a mapping from gps coordinates to regions/postcodes or such. If you have this information, you could do all sorts of crazy stuff. But i doubt these data would be very easy to get. I've seen it at another contract I worked a year ago, but

Re: application idea: georeferenced photos

2007-09-17 Thread ian douglas
Dean Collins wrote: Definitely a great application - and not just for openmoko. Helio's been doing it for a while now -- just don't call it a phone. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Help Request for our Webshop

2007-09-23 Thread ian douglas
Giles Jones wrote: If you use an existing engine and you get hacked then you have someone to sue if they were incompetent. I would think many third-party solutions have some sort of disclaimer in their documentation against this. But then, that's the beauty of open source -- if you find a

Re: Is neo1973 dual boot possible?

2007-09-25 Thread ian douglas
Piotr Duda wrote: 1. format my SD card with ext3 and mount it (on laptop) 2. unpacked rootfs from qtopia-4.3.0-preview-neo-flash.tgz to SD card 3. copied the uImage-2.6.22.5-moko11-r2-fic-gta01.bin kernel to the boot/ on SD card and rename it to uImage 4. umount and take out SD card from the

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-26 Thread ian douglas
Jonathon Suggs wrote: Tim Newsom wrote: the data interfaces should be the same... If I open up qtopia phone edition and look at my contacts or maybe even edit them and then close it down and open up my OM interface and look at them, they should be the same. All edit are visible.. No double

still having trouble getting Neo to boot Qtopia from SD

2007-09-26 Thread ian douglas
So to recap what I've tried, that doesn't work to get Qtopia on my SD card and boot from SD: I went to http://www.qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php and downloaded the three files under Qtopia for the Neo1973 Downloads, and unpacked them onto a 2GB microSD card, formatted as ext3: #

Re: still having trouble getting Neo to boot Qtopia from SD

2007-09-27 Thread ian douglas
Yeah, I can flash it to the Neo and use it that way, but I was hoping for the dual-boot feature that others have talked about. -id Peter A Trotter wrote: I have to admit I have not had time to out this on my SD card yet but I have booted it from the neo normally.

Re: No Camera???

2007-10-06 Thread ian douglas
Frankly, I'm mixed on the subject. For years, I never had a camera phone. I avoided it, as I thought it was a waste. I'd look for phones that specifically didn't have a camera and it took a lot of legwork to find one that was suitable for what I needed but didn't include a camera. Then I got

Re: Right-click (as opposed to left-click)

2007-10-07 Thread ian douglas
On my old Treo, you could press the stylus on a square, and drag up to flag it, or drag left to clear a flag. Dunno if the OM version of the game does that though. If not, it'd be handy if it did. -id Mikkel Meyer Andersen wrote: Hi, I've just tried Mines (testing purposes only, of

3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread ian douglas
Hey all, I've been playing with a Neo for a little while now, and unfortunately my current 3G SIM card from ATT has a serial number that falls within the range of doesn't work on the wiki. Yesterday I bought a pre-paid TMobile 3G card to see if that would work, and it didn't work either.

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread ian douglas
Mikko Rauhala wrote: To be clear, the 3G status of the Neo is a resounding does not, will not. The Neo is a 2G GSM phone. Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up. Ian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: 3G status within the US?

2007-10-08 Thread ian douglas
The version number on my TMobile SIM is 39.01a and does NOT work. My ATT SIM is listed on the wiki within the range of serial numbers that will not work. I'm disappointed that this isn't something that's field-programmable. I feel like I wasted the money buying this phone since it's just a

Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4?

2007-10-23 Thread ian douglas
Richard Reichenbacher wrote: Al Johnson wrote: What more do you want? A Big flashing neon sign on the wiki saying the exact time and date the phone will be available for purchasing. Or perhaps just a correction on the wiki giving us a better estimate of when the GTA02 will be available

Re: Community update: The 850 MHz issue

2007-11-05 Thread ian douglas
Agreed, I'm in California as well, and though I bought a pre-paid T Mobile card, it doesn't work either because of the 3G issue. It would seem the 850 issue plus the 3G issue has just 'bricked' my Neo (in a metaphorical sense) without me writing a single line of code. And given that the

Re: Gphone and 850, perspectives

2007-11-07 Thread ian douglas
Al Johnson wrote: We should find out one way or the other reasonably soon. Like we'd know reasonably soon about the TI modem firmware delivery system that they told us about almost a month ago? ;o) Seriously, if they can fix the 3G issue so I can just use TMobile for the time being, then

Re: i'm going to lose my neo....

2007-11-08 Thread ian douglas
Jeff Andros wrote: Thinkgeek used to sell something like this, but I couldn't find it on their site... look around, they're out there It was a USB dongle to lock your PC if you moved outside a certain range, if I recall. I remember seeing it too at one point, but the software for the gadget

Re: Moved page for those interested in second hand Neos

2007-11-10 Thread ian douglas
Is there any recourse with OpenMoko that we can take about misrepresentation as a quad-band phone, and getting a refund? -id rakshat hooja wrote: I have moved the wiki page for those interested in buying a second hand Neo to- http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Interested_in_second_hand_neo

Re: Moved page for those interested in second hand Neos

2007-11-10 Thread ian douglas
Well, if we don't hear something pretty soon about the 3G issue, I'm going to list mine -- I'd like to at least use the upper frequency bands with ATT or TMobile since I'm in a major metropolitan area. -id Jae Stutzman wrote: ian douglas wrote: Is there any recourse with OpenMoko that we

Re: Community update, Thursday, December 20 2007

2007-12-20 Thread ian douglas
GSM Firmware Update --- We are still waiting for the signed agreement allowing you to update the GSM firmware yourselves. Meanwhile, we have resolved the difficulties I was having in performing the upgrade, and I am now able to upgrade your handsets. Anyone interested in having

Southern California Linux Expo, Feb 8-10 2008

2008-01-14 Thread ian douglas
Hey all, Just saw that OpenMoko is going to be at the SCALE show this year -- can't wait to drop by and meet some of you guys. Got any good giveaways planned? ;o) Ian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: what's not functional?

2008-01-14 Thread ian douglas
After the modem firmware upgrade from Michael, I was able to connect and make a phone call with an ATT SIM card that didn't work before. And a TMobile SIM card that didn't work at all before would now at least register on the network and show signal strength, but would not make/receive a phone

Re: France : Taxes for video and mp3 playing capacity

2008-01-24 Thread ian douglas
The speedometer on my Volkswagen says my 10-year old Passat is capable of driving 160mph, but doesn't mean I should have to pay a speeding ticket as though I do. I concur, these tax laws are silly business. I was glad to hear that Canada shut down the DRM tax that some group was trying to get

Re: GPS/Cell phone patent issue

2008-01-25 Thread ian douglas
hank williams wrote: Hmm... ok, so it comes with it but you cant use it without paying? You can use TeleNav if you know where you are and where you're going. You only have to pay the extra $10 for the TeleNav service to use the GPS on the phone. Without the GPS, it'll still give you the

Re: GPS/Cell phone patent issue

2008-01-25 Thread ian douglas
hank williams wrote: I don't think any phones are going to come with navigation data built in. To my knowldge, the Samsung Blackjack 2 from ATT includes maps from TeleNav. You have to pay an extra $10/month to use GPS with those maps of course, so I just use the Mobile Google Maps

SCALE 2008 recap, and a pre-paid SIM question for the list.

2008-02-11 Thread ian douglas
Hey all, First piece of good news: Michael was *swamped* at SCALE 6x, answering questions from probably hundreds of people asking what an open source phone was all about. There's definitely a buzz in the industry about OpenMoko, and being at SCALE was a definite boost in the exposure of what

Re: Interview with Raider Realm

2008-02-12 Thread ian douglas
Will OpenMoko give any consideration to those of us who purchased the GTA01 before the tri-band issue was announced, to discount the price of a GTA02 to give us the functionality we thought we were initially purchasing? Like a trade-up of some sort like ATI used to do, where you send in your

Re: List of Linux Cell Phones

2008-02-13 Thread ian douglas
My understanding is that Michael got a list of all current handsets (GSM or otherwise) running some form of a Linux-based operating system on the device. It would be nice to have the list on the wiki and include whether it's GSM only or GSM+other, etc., but I haven't got the time to volunteer

Re: Request for assistance: Need a wiki page for buying andselling GTA01

2008-02-19 Thread ian douglas
@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ian douglas http://iandouglas.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: eBay considered good option for GTA01 issue

2008-02-20 Thread ian douglas
Another user wrote: eBay is a no brainer for those who wish to trade in their GTA01 to recover some cash to apply toward GTA02. BTW, if anyone is interested, someone (not me) has placed a GTA01 Advanced Kit (including JTAG board) on eBay:

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread ian douglas
Heikki Sørum wrote: In my ideal world: Alice gets a OpenMoko, and then starts getting annoying calls from Peach Corporation that would like to sell here an Peach M-Phone. As Alice dislikes Peach Corporation, she tags any sms/mms and caller ID's with a Marketing Call tag. One of my favorite

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread ian douglas
Tilman Baumann wrote: In my eyes, trust should be calculated automaticly, not by manually defining trust (like pgp). Using the system could improve it. Perhaps number of successful phone calls, and length of phone call to add a number of trust 'points' ... the more successful calls over some

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread ian douglas
Tilman Baumann wrote: Yea. But this is limited to a simple question 'was this call spam?'. What i mean was that you should have 'the list[tm]' that is automatically the right thing for you. Yes, I agree, it should be personalized to the user/phone, and being prompted after a call to specify

Re: questions about Neo FreeRunner

2008-02-26 Thread ian douglas
Shawn wrote: Does anyone currently use a Neo on T-mobile's network? If so, do you have the data plan and does it work well (: I use it for calls on T-Mobile, but not for data -- I have a prepaid SIM card (1000 minutes) but haven't tried data connections at all. I'm not sure if it's included

Re: About ipkg on Openmoko

2008-02-28 Thread ian douglas
I've found that connecting the Neo to my PC built a resolv.conf pointing to my workstation's address (192.168.0.200) which obviously doesn't do DNS lookups. I solved it by writing a new resolv.conf using OpenDNS: nameserver 208.67.222.222 nameserver 208.67.220.220 It'd be trivial to grep the

Re: 25 native [iPhone|OpenMoko] we hope to see

2008-03-04 Thread ian douglas
Jeff Andros wrote: Personally, I'd like to see a plugin for pidgin that turns it into an IM proxy... the NEO would connect in to my system here and use pidgin on it... that way I have unified logs, a single place to sign in, etc I concur -- running Pidgin on three different platforms, it's a

Re: Audio wired Headset

2008-03-04 Thread ian douglas
Am Di 4. März 2008 schrieb Gilles Casse: Is it possible to buy a new audio wired headset from OpenMoko.inc? Otherwise, where can we get one please (OpenMoko distributor?). I mentioned to Michael at SCALE 2008 that having a 'store' where we could buy stray parts, like batteries would be a

Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread ian douglas
Kyle Bassett wrote: I have acquired an 8GB iPhone I actually am writing for suggestions to make this iPhone helpful to the OpenMoko community. Likewise, I won an 8GB iPod Touch (essentially the iPhone without the cell phone components), and I'd love to run OpenMoko on it at some point. I

Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread ian douglas
If I recall, the iPhone is a 3G phone, but only uses EDGE on 3G, the slowest speed. I have a friend with an iPhone, I'll ask if I can borrow his SIM to see if it'll connect to ATT on my Neo later this week. -id Michael Shiloh wrote: Do you have an ATT SIM card? Does it work with your iPhone?

Re: Audio wired Headset

2008-03-04 Thread ian douglas
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: I simply agree... JTAG for example, could be needed for standard users only after bricking the device, and new/extra batteries will be needed soon! So: - batteries - headphones - JTAG interfaces - sylus - stylus batteries? I'm not sure it's economically

Neo1973 on eBay

2008-03-10 Thread ian douglas
Starting bid is $200. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120232014254 I'm including a 2GB microSD card instead of the 512MB that shipped with the phone, and also including a USB cable (I hate when cables aren't included!) More photos at http://iandouglas.com/neo1973/ Now

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-10 Thread ian douglas
If it helps any, using the March 4th daily build, my Neo registers just fine on both my TMobile and ATT SIM's and both receive SMS messages and can place phone calls. Mind you, I can connect to TMobile from within my apartment to make/receive a phone call and receive SMS messages. Inserting

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-11 Thread ian douglas
: http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/net_usb3.shtml And since the Neo cannot operate at 850MHz, it means I'm only using 1900MHz. -id Michael Shiloh wrote: Do you know offhand what bands are used by TMobile and ATT in your area? Michael ian douglas wrote: If it helps any, using the March

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-11 Thread ian douglas
Michael Shiloh wrote: I checked the map, and I'm in the same situation as you: 1900 and 850. But I notice the maps are not maintained by the providers. How do we know they are up to date? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile The US T-Mobile network predominately uses the GSM/GPRS 1900 MHz

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-11 Thread ian douglas
Mike confirmed that my home address is in an 850/1900 area, which gave me decent T-Mobile coverage, and weak-but-present coverage with ATT. Ian Mike Hodson wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian, I checked the map, and I'm in the same situation

Re: hand charger for neo

2008-03-11 Thread ian douglas
joerg wrote: get yourself a powered usb-hub Personally, I ordered a gadget talked about on Andy Powell's blog on the weekend: http://blog.automated.it/2008/03/08/how-long-does-yours-stay-up/ In his blog article, he talks about a USB power pack that you charge, and then attach other

Re: Neo1973 on eBay

2008-03-17 Thread ian douglas
Just under 3 days left! ian douglas wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120232014254 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread ian douglas
Mark wrote: Michael Shiloh michael at openmoko.org If you have little interest in putting up with the frustrations that will surely follow, you will do best to wait for the consumer software to be ready. ...in other words, it *is* intended strictly as a developer's plaything, and you have no

Re: Neo Freerunner manufacturing status

2008-03-19 Thread ian douglas
Hi Michael (and Steve), I'm surprised nobody has asked yet: I know Michael himself has admitted that Openmoko has been historically bad at estimating delivery dates, but is there *any* chance on getting an updated timeline now that we have this news about the A5/A6? IE: How long can we

Re: Price of the Freerunner published?

2008-03-19 Thread ian douglas
Vincent wrote: 2. 19% VAT in germany 3. x% additional fees (recycling, ...) in germany/europe Regarding points 1, 2, 3 and 6 - doesn't the US have something similar? 2. I'm originally from Canada, but my experience in the US is that each state, and sometimes within separate counties

Re: Neo1973 on eBay

2008-03-19 Thread ian douglas
Less than a day left for anyone interested. :o) ian douglas wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120232014254 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Further details of theprocess as we ramp up production of Freerunner

2008-03-20 Thread ian douglas
Shawn wrote: Do you need people to physically test the phones that are being run on this process? (: The best way for them to test the devices are created uniformly is to test them uniformly, so it's pretty much a given that a QA team at Openmoko will test every unit coming off the line, not

Re: Price of the Freerunner spare parts

2008-03-25 Thread ian douglas
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: There are lots of clones of these Nokia batteries, we bought a few and can give you the names. But basically anything BL-4C, BL-5C, BL-6C compatible should work. Just my $0.02 here, but: *Should* work, or *definitely* work? I'd rather not buy a 'maybe' battery and

Re: Who is who ?

2008-04-10 Thread ian douglas
Ian Darwin wrote: How does having more bureaucracy help you find out who is trustworthy? Anybody can sign up on the wiki. I agree with this -- anyone can sign up on the wiki and claim anything they like. If I had to guess, I'd say anyone with an @openmoko.com Email address is pretty

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-14 Thread ian douglas
Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I also would like to have - may be separately: - Stylus personally, i'd want: *a modified charger (if one is made) *a pouch included, and that's it I think for a phone that's heavily touch-based, a stylus is a must-have.

Los Angeles (or Southern California 10-pack)

2008-04-15 Thread ian douglas
Added my name to the bulk-purchase price for the FreeRunner for the Los Angeles area. I'm technically in Santa Monica now, but if anyone else in the city is interested, add your names to the list on the wiki and save a few bucks. Personally, I'll probably opt for the fastest shipping method

Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework

2008-04-18 Thread ian douglas
I agree. If the LED's are used by the software to show various states in the software, then why can't we just use software to turn them off when we don't want them on? Problem solved, without any hardware hacks needed. That's the beauty of open source. Find where the lights are controlled,

Re: Welcome to Openmoko GSoC

2008-04-21 Thread ian douglas
Daniel Willmann wrote: IM/VoIP using telepathy I'm hoping you meant telephony? Or is Google seriously funding some sort of telekenesis projects? ;o) -id ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Welcome to Openmoko GSoC

2008-04-21 Thread ian douglas
Ah, thanks for the correction. Joseph Jon Booker wrote: IM/VoIP using telepathy http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Travis Tabbal wrote: Has the 850Mhz issue been resolved? The Freerunner will be sold in 850/1800/1900 tri-band, and 900/1800/1900 tri-band models. You'll have to specify which model you want when you order. -id ___ Openmoko community mailing

bulk order question

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Steve, I understand about the discount on the bulk order of 10 Freerunners, but do all 10 have to be the same tri-band mode, ie: 10 of the 850/1800/1900 phones or 10 of the 900/1800/1900 phones, or can we mix and match as long as we have 10 phones in the box? -id

GTA03 wish list (was: What US plans are people using?)

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Travis Tabbal wrote: Of course, a quad band setup would be preferred Hey OpenMoko team, has anyone started a wish-list for the GTA03 yet? - true quad-band - a place to hide a stylus - anti pooch pouch poaching device ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Travis Tabbal wrote: This implies that a GTA01bv4 can NOT use 850 mhz. But my Neo1973 works PERFECTLY in the USA, which means either it DOES support 850mhz OR that the LACK of 850mhz is irrelevant. As I understand it, 850 will matter or not depending on where you live and what

Re: Freerunner AC adaptor

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Just as a comparison, since my workplace just got me a Blackberry World Phone (8830), here's a photo of the power adapters that come with it, which I guess connect to the standard American power plug. http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2435261066/ For what it's worth, the

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Brandon Kruger wrote: I have the Media Net Unlimited package which gives me unlimied data usage for $15/month. Just try not to let them know it's for a PDA-ish device or they may try to make you get the $60 equivalent for PDAs instead. The $60 equivalent includes tethering which lets you

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
If you already have a capable phone, I don't see why they wouldn't just sell you just the SIM card and data/voice plan. Ben Burdette wrote: How did you get the plan to begin with? Surely they didn't just give you a SIM card, did you already have another phone or did you buy a cheap phone?

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Brandon Kruger wrote: It may not be allowed in the fine print, but I never had any problems tethering my A707 with that plan to my laptop over BT or USB. The sales guy I talked to at ATT back in December said they can catch this behavior by monitoring your data transfer behavior, and charge

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-23 Thread ian douglas
Yes, ATT uses both 850 and either 1800 or 1900 (I forget which at the moment, maybe 1900 and TMobile uses 1800, or vice versa?). In my last apartment, where there were a lot of buildings very close together, lots of concrete, etc., my usual ATT phone (Blackjack 2) would only connect on the

Re: Thoughts about calls not taken

2008-04-23 Thread ian douglas
2. Called person cannot talk right now (Meeting, cinema, etc.) I use pidgin (gaim) for IM, and you can set several 'away' messages depending on why you don't want to be disturbed. Some sort of voicemail app on the phone which plays back one of several messages like Hi, I'm enjoying a movie

Re: Thoughts about calls not taken

2008-04-23 Thread ian douglas
Sorry, just realized I hadn't finished my thought... ian douglas wrote: I use pidgin (gaim) for IM, and you can set several 'away' messages depending on why you don't want to be disturbed. Some sort of voicemail app on the phone which plays back one of several messages like Hi, I'm enjoying

Re: Thoughts about calls not taken

2008-04-23 Thread ian douglas
ian douglas wrote: I use pidgin (gaim) for IM, I tried to use pidgin on the OM but found that I couldn't enter my IM profile details as the multi-tap keyboard didn't get 'activated' when in these fields - has this been fixed now? /me will try again if this is the case. No, I use it on my

Re: What US plans are people using?

2008-04-24 Thread ian douglas
Rivera wrote: How do you tell which band the phone is currently connecting to? Someone stated in the last day or so that there's an AT command you can send to the Neo's modem to tell which service. how did you know the Blackjack 2 would only connect to the lower freq? The basis of my

Re: Freerunner AC adaptor.. Kevin dean you there?

2008-04-24 Thread ian douglas
My new Blackberry 8830 charger draws 500mA -id For what it's worth, the Blackberry charger also ends in a USB plug, but I didn't check the wall plug portion to see how many mA it draws. -id ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Group ordering details?

2008-04-24 Thread ian douglas
I imagine that one of the 10 people who wants to be part of the bulk order will be responsible for collecting the funds from the other 9 orders, waiting for checks to clear, etc., and then place the order with OpenMoko. It's really up to the group. I know personally I'd hate to pony up the

Re: 10 or more phones order

2008-04-28 Thread ian douglas
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote: Well, may be that i missed the answer but someone asked if the discount and the extra stuff are applied only to the 10 pack or it could also be a 12 pack? So to let you understand the condition is: if (phones_ordered == 10) do_the_10_pack_trick(); More

Re: mobile gps gaming

2008-04-29 Thread ian douglas
Robin Paulson wrote: i just listened to an interesting piece on the bbc about gps gaming on mobile phones: There was a group of people in some major American city a year or so ago that played a city-wide game of PacMan using GPS-enabled phones... teammates would lead the 'ghost' characters

Re: mobile gps gaming

2008-05-01 Thread ian douglas
Michael Shiloh wrote: Was this organized by the group area code? http://www.wired.com/gaming/gamingreviews/news/2004/05/63400 I was mistaken, I thought it had been run with GPS phones, but it was back in 2004 (I thought it was much more recent) and they couldn't use GPS due to the tall

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread ian douglas
Kevin Dean wrote: Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? From Steve's Email to the Community list April 24 at 12:44pm Pacific time with a subject of 10 PACK UPDATE!!! : Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets. In an Email around

Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-06 Thread ian douglas
Hey all, I'm randomly getting a second and sometimes a third copy of messages coming to the list. For exampe, Torfinn Ingolfsen's last Email with a subject line Re: Software -- I got three copies. I also got three copies of Bradley Hook's message about the external displays, but only one

Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-06 Thread ian douglas
Likewise, I got one copy of Daniel Barkalow's Email just before I sent my message, but received three copies of my own post. ian douglas wrote: Hey all, I'm randomly getting a second and sometimes a third copy of messages coming to the list. For exampe, Torfinn Ingolfsen's last Email

Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-06 Thread ian douglas
Michele Renda wrote: Only one copy also for me. It is like you registered two / three times. Are you sure you don't have mail fowarding activated to another email address registered to this mailing list? Nope, I've always only had a single address on the list, and I've been a member since

Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

2008-05-06 Thread ian douglas
function you get an email adressed to your email adress and one to the mailinglist. Possibly that might be an answer. And of course sometimes there are double-posts. Greetings Bastia ian douglas schrieb: | Michele Renda wrote: | Only one copy also for me. It is like you registered two / three

Re: questions for steve regarding group purchases

2008-05-07 Thread ian douglas
Robin Paulson wrote: steve, what methods are being considered by openmoko for group purchasing? Hi Robin, I can't speak directly for Steve and Openmoko, I'm guessing that once we get enough people for a bulk order, one of us will need to collect payments from everyone else, then place the

Los Angeles / Southern California group sales

2008-05-08 Thread ian douglas
Assuming that Steve's last timelines are semi-accurate, unless more interest is generated by the end of the month, the Los Angeles group only has 4 interested parties -- would the other Southern California groups be willing to combine if none of us can reach enough orders for the 10-pack

Re: Los Angeles / Southern California group sales

2008-05-08 Thread ian douglas
you or the one who gets the babies to ship one to me to the Mexico City? I have some friends who want to get one, but they want to see it before buying it, and I think there won't be a mexican group this time. Thanks Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - ian douglas escribió: Assuming that Steve's

Re: Los Angeles / Southern California group sales

2008-05-08 Thread ian douglas
For something worth that much money, I don't see the point in declaring its value as less than the purchase price plus shipping -- if you declare it as a $100 phone and it gets broken or lost/stolen, you'd only be able to file an insurance claim for the $100 declared value and lose the extra

Re: A few questions about the games

2008-05-12 Thread ian douglas
There's another real-world game involving getting a marble through a maze without dropping through holes by tilting the maze-board to get the marble to the end of the maze. Sounds like it'd be a good game for accelerometers... steve wrote: make pacman rip off using the acelleromters

Marble Maze (was: Re: A few questions about the games)

2008-05-12 Thread ian douglas
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: http://www.amazon.com/none-CAR190-Labyrinth/dp/B0ISLL Yeah, that's exactly the game I'm thinking of. I imagine implementing the physics of it (roll the ball faster the more you tilt) might be a bit tricky, but completely possible. We'd also have to allow for skill

Re: Marble Maze

2008-05-12 Thread ian douglas
/watch?v=uHyfPzCe5OEfeature=user http://youtube.com/watch?v=uHyfPzCe5OEfeature=user Ak 2008/5/13 ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joe Pfeiffer wrote: http://www.amazon.com/none-CAR190-Labyrinth/dp/B0ISLL Yeah, that's exactly the game I'm thinking

Re: Software Status Update

2008-05-14 Thread ian douglas
Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Does this mean that FreeRunner arent shipped this week?? Yes, Steve just reconfirmed a few minutes ago that production doesn't even start until about May 16th... plus whatever timeline he previously mentioned for any final work to get things verified and packaged and

Re: clarification re easy OpenMoko updating for average consumer

2008-05-15 Thread ian douglas
Ron K. Jeffries wrote: As an Ubuntu *user* every now and then I get an alert that upgrades are available. Likewise with other major distros like Fedora -- you get an alert that upgrades are available when you login, or come back from an idle state overnight (nightly cron job I imagine). In

Re: clarification re easy OpenMoko updating for average consumer

2008-05-15 Thread ian douglas
Mo Abrahams wrote: How about it downloads the updates whenever wifi is available (battery or not), and then (if set to update automatically) updates once plugged in to charge, and if set to manual requires battery power to be above a certain percentage. I'd say that if GSM downloads are going

Re: Value of headsets and pouches for 10 pack orders?

2008-05-15 Thread ian douglas
If it's included in the bulk order, do you *need* to declare an extra value? Chris Hogan wrote: Just wondering if anyone knows how much the bonus pouch/headsets being offered with the bulk orders would cost if purchased separately? The Sydney group are looking into the (huge) customs costs

Re: Value of headsets and pouches for 10 pack orders?

2008-05-15 Thread ian douglas
Steve has already mentioned on the list that they don't intend to sell pouches or headsets as individual items, and that they're only available as part of a bulk order -- included at no extra cost as part of the bulk order, which to me means no extra value. -id Neil Davey wrote: It's not so

Re: Value of headsets and pouches for 10 pack orders?

2008-05-16 Thread ian douglas
Chris Hogan wrote: True - I hadn't yet read Ian's reply when I wrote that :-). And I was just reiterating what Steve and Michael have said over the past two months -- OpenMoko would rather concentrate on making phones than pouches and selling individual accessories like pouches and

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