Re: noise while making a phone call: hardware or software?

2008-01-04 Thread joerg
unused mixer input), or the amp or D/A power supply is unsufficiently decoupled from GSM-modem transmitter (this might be tested by connecting some elcos to power pins of amp and D/A). cheers jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: noise while making a phone call: hardware or software?

2008-01-04 Thread joerg
Am Fr 4. Januar 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh: I will also copy the ideas that came out of this discussion into the bug. Richard, Lorn, Joerg, would you rather do this yourselves? I've been sending to you an email some weeks ago, offering my help in debugging/improving GTA02 hw (the battery 1

Re: Recent spam.

2008-01-07 Thread joerg
Am Mo 7. Januar 2008 schrieb Torfinn Ingolfsen: BTW, for those who feel the need to reply to the spam messages in order to inform the rest of us that the message is spam[1] and should be dealt[2] with - please, please do NOT quote the message. If you do, the spammer gets the commercial

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-11 Thread joerg
a very convenient durable probe by soldering 2 wires to the 2 planes and fixating it with gaffatape around end of probe and wires. cheers jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

OT: Multilanguage Text-To-Speech

2008-01-21 Thread joerg
(recording, listenselect, programming...) for Siemens GPS car navi, which had been used in quite a few of the standard equipment for german/european cars since. So i'm interested in the topic somehow. cheers jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: digital compass modules

2008-01-23 Thread joerg
Am Mi 23. Januar 2008 schrieb Schmidt András: Hi! A compass module would be very nice with many applications! I have no hardware related experince. Is it possible to integrate a chip like this into the phone? How would you do that? True drop-in solution Simple I2C interface 2.7 to 5.2V

Re: digital compass modules

2008-01-23 Thread joerg
and the + and - leads aren't parallel/twisted or *magnetic* shielded. So compass readout probably should be done in low power mode of the NEO - no backlight, no GSM transmission, no full speed CPU. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: digital compass modules

2008-01-23 Thread joerg
Am Mi 23. Januar 2008 schrieb Sébastien Lorquet: I'm not sure a magnetic sensor is useful when you have a GPS, because a GPS can give you a heading as soon as the measured velocity is not zero! You get heading of *velocity vector*, NOT heading of *device*! So for Andras' intended use, this is

Re: digital compass modules

2008-01-23 Thread joerg
distance from each other in a system make a nice gyro with the aid of some mathematics in driver. IIRC there was mentioned more than one acc-meter for the GTA. I thought that's exactly for this purpose. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Digital Compass JavaFX

2008-01-23 Thread joerg
Price: $44.95 10-99: $40.46 each (10% off) 100 or more: $35.96 each (20% off) :-( jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPS/Cell phone patent issue

2008-01-25 Thread joerg
http://www.tomtom.com/products/features.php?ID=280Category=2Lid=1 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPS/Cell phone patent issue

2008-01-25 Thread joerg
let's move this thread to blackberry, iPhone, or google forum. I think we're boring others here, because this is the *OpenMoko* forum, and i don't see how the 'impact on *current* phone market' -however highly intriguing- has anything in common with what we are talking here: **GTA** j

Re: GPS/Cell phone patent issue

2008-01-25 Thread joerg
The maps ARE on board for all common GPS car navis (really big 256MB-flash card e.g.). In *cars*, not phones. btw: there have been on-board(!) navi solutions for phones(!) even before iPhone hit the market. This is the *Openmoko* list. We're talking *phones* here. Sure bout that? I

Re: GPS/Cell phone patent issue

2008-01-25 Thread joerg
Hmm... The patent purports to cover getting *any* information based on where you are, including maps. So unless all the map information or whatever information you need can fit on your phone you are not interested in it? I guess you better wait for some *really* big flash memory chips. :)

Re: GPS/Cell phone patent issue

2008-01-25 Thread joerg
Am Fr 25. Januar 2008 schrieb hank williams: [...] It appears that, in essence, the patents cover a phone providing current location information to a remote database which returns to the phone a collection of location centric information. According to the patent application, this location

Re: GPS/Cell phone patent issue

2008-01-25 Thread joerg
In other words, like it or not, if this patent is valid (who knows) and its scope is what it looks like (I'm not a lawyer) it will have a significant impact on the *phone* world. In other words, *you* consider GTA to be a *phone*, nothing else and not beyond. You're kidding? Like it or not,

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread joerg
Am Mi 30. Januar 2008 schrieb Colan Schwartz: Other options are http://ekiga.org/ and http://www.openwengo.org/. They both do SIP. I know about Ekiga because it ships with Ubuntu, and it's completely open source. I don't know that much about OpenWengo. www.twinklephone.com. Qt based, so

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread joerg
Am Mi 30. Januar 2008 schrieb Mikko J Rauhala: On ke, 2008-01-30 at 18:00 +0100, Michael Schmidt wrote: the serverless instant messenger http://retroshare.sf.net (Qt gui) will have soon as well VOIP and VIDEO Chat, and this is quite good for openmoko, as this is an encrypted one, so you

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread joerg
Am Mi 30. Januar 2008 schrieb Jeremiah Flerchinger: Ekiga is just a client package and doesn't contain a server component, What for do you want to have a server on GTA? BTW linphone is no way different in this aspect AFAIK. like asterisk. There is also linPhone (http://www.linphone.org/),

Re: FM Tuner for RDS on the Neo ?

2008-01-31 Thread joerg
Am Do 31. Januar 2008 schrieb Pierre Hébert: On Thursday 31 January 2008, Lionel Dricot wrote: Thanks, It looks indeed like what I want. How difficult is it to access the i2c bus ? From the software point of view it is quite easy, the linux kernel provides the required

Re: FM Tuner for RDS on the Neo ?

2008-01-31 Thread joerg
Am Do 31. Januar 2008 schrieb Pierre Hébert: On Thursday 31 January 2008, joerg wrote: see other posting about magnetic compass chip interfacing with I2C. It's 4 wires. If getting audio from the FM radio IC is needed, it will probably need some connections with the WM8573 audio chip too

Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-01-31 Thread joerg
Am Do 31. Januar 2008 schrieb Shawn Rutledge: [...] My goal is to have applications written in arbitrary languages, running on app servers, using a terse UI meta-language *) to transfer the user-interaction parts of the apps to the thin client (more or less, depending on the processing

Re: GTK RAD

2008-02-01 Thread joerg
Am Fr 1. Februar 2008 schrieb john: You mileage will vary depending on the type of app. I do most of my testing on the desktop but lately I have been testing with a GPRS connection on my Neo. I had no idea Vodafone would reset my TCP connections when I idle for example! Some of the GSM

Re: Mono development in openmoko

2008-02-02 Thread joerg
Am Fr 1. Februar 2008 schrieb Brandon Kruse: I am not bashing on enthusiasm, but why do you guys chose to develop in a language that hates freedom? Especially on this platform :/ My experience with Mono: 10.1-YaST-sw-management adopted red carpet, and came to a grinding halt. top: yast uses

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread joerg
Am Mo 4. Februar 2008 schrieb Ian Darwin: Marcus Bauer wrote: Quick answer: on a N810 you are happier with maemo-mapper, on the Neo with tangogps. You have more buttons on the N810 and a landscape screen, whereas the Neo uses portrait-mode. tangogps was designed to be fast and to be

Re: Dates on the Wiki pages

2008-02-04 Thread joerg
Am Mo 4. Februar 2008 schrieb Christ van Willegen: since everyone is editting at the moment... may I suggest standardising dates on the wiki to ISO 8601 coding, or -mm-dd. 100% agree! j btw: hope there are metric screws used in NEO!? And ground = minus.

Re: how to enable usb host mode?

2008-02-05 Thread joerg
Am Di 5. Februar 2008 schrieb JW: if you are talking about GTA01 then there is no host mode (I believe). GTA01 is supposed to have *unpowered* HOSTmode GTA02 (not released yet) has 100mA host mode JW j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: how to enable usb host mode?

2008-02-05 Thread joerg
Am Di 5. Februar 2008 schrieb Mikko J Rauhala: On ti, 2008-02-05 at 16:01 +, JW wrote: if you are talking about GTA01 then there is no host mode (I believe). Bzzt, there is, though it is unpowered (and therefore nonstandard as-is), requiring power to be fed from the side via eg. a

Re: Input Method Development

2008-02-07 Thread joerg
Am Do 7. Februar 2008 schrieb dda: I agree that a system of plugins/callbacks could do fine, if it can handle resetting output: eg typing gks bkspc f would output successively: ㅎ - 하 - 한 - 하 - 할 [Unicode 0x1112, 0xd558, 0xd55c, 0xd558, 0xd560]. Being able to backtrack is quite necessary in

Re: proprietary firmware

2008-02-08 Thread joerg
I like the idea of having total control over my electronic devices - especially if they are able to collect everything about my life like a mobile phone. Thats why I'm currently living without any mobil. If I am able to look into what runs on my device, I can trust that stuff. so I'm one

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-08 Thread joerg
Am Fr 8. Februar 2008 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz: of the case CAD files is not software (per say). In the future you will see a lot more. We don't believe software is only place people need openness. So does this mean we will eventually see the circuit diagrams (and even PCB layouts??), so we

Re: Mono audio output on GTA02?

2008-02-08 Thread joerg
Am Fr 8. Februar 2008 schrieb Ben Burdette: I was looking at the GTA02 hardware spec on the wiki, and its looking (to me) like mono only output. According to this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem The neo1973 has a stereo LM4857 amplifier, which drives the stereo

Re: solar power

2008-02-09 Thread joerg
Am So 10. Februar 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Spraul: Andy (or anyone else), if the whole back of the Neo would be a solar panel, and you would put it back side up into direct sunlight, say for 5 hours, how much could that charge the battery? Could you operate the phone without a battery (and

Schematics, circuit diagrams

2008-02-10 Thread joerg
GTA, for obvious reasons ;-) Old one didn't do it anymore. Orders will be stacked and shipped all at same day when order volume is sufficient. coming soon: how i disassembled my GTA02... Eagle-files free your phone! ;-) jOERG ___ OpenMoko community

Re: Schematics, circuit diagrams

2008-02-10 Thread joerg
about a different deal: We collect donations to get you a new phone and you make your findings public under a free license? On 2/10/08, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi hardware-hackers! Anybody interested in my story? How i completely disassembled my GTA01, put everything on a needlebed

Re: Bike power (Re: solar power)

2008-02-10 Thread joerg
Am Mo 11. Februar 2008 schrieb Schmidt András: Today we were talking about new generation of portable personal computers (yes, that is OpenMoko :-) with friends. Our idea was to use it as cyclocomputer (That idea has already appeared on the wiki or in the list somewhere). We were wondering

Re: List of Linux Cell Phones

2008-02-13 Thread joerg
Am Mi 13. Februar 2008 schrieb Stephan Maka: Schmidt András wrote: So it is a list of GSM phones which are capable of running linux? No. This list just indicates that there are HOWTOs available for connecting the phones to your Linux box. However OT, this:

Re: List of Linux Cell Phones

2008-02-13 Thread joerg
Am Mi 13. Februar 2008 schrieb Stephan Maka: Schmidt András wrote: So it is a list of GSM phones which are capable of running linux? No. This list just indicates that there are HOWTOs available for connecting the phones to your Linux box. I understood this site dealing with Linux on my

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-14 Thread joerg
Am Do 14. Februar 2008 schrieb Kyle Bassett: I have been following the Suspended Mode thread in the kernel ML and they have made amazing progress within the last week. As GTA02A5 currently stands, a cold suspend mode (just GSM in standby awaiting incoming call/sms), could result in 20 days

Re: Alarm clock (Re: Wiki - OpenMoko Community Applications)

2008-02-14 Thread joerg
Am Do 14. Februar 2008 schrieb Schmidt András: I have re-read the wish list and community applications list and could not find a feature that I use on my current phone day to day. That is alarm clock. Or is it part of the calendar? Do you have any pointers to OpenMoko's alarm clock

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-14 Thread joerg
Am Do 14. Februar 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Basically as a rule hardware is set in stone, it goes double when it is micro BGAs and so on like this hardware, there's not much anyone can do about that. That's the reason why polite PCB-designers are planning for a NC-via at least for those

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-14 Thread joerg
Am Fr 15. Februar 2008 schrieb Andy Green: As I say it matters a bit less because so many signals are unavailable anyway, but of course I really understand the point of having them. To offset it a little there are bunch of testpoints which are annotated on the board and will be annotated in

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-14 Thread joerg
Am Fr 15. Februar 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Still for quite a few embedded tasks I2C or LVTTL UART -- let's not forget USB OTG 12Mbps host from the mini USB B connector -- will be enough to make a practical solution though. Good point! If i need additional GPIO, so what. I got I2C, so i just

Re: proprietary firmware

2008-02-15 Thread joerg
to nag manufacturers to open the sources of firmware, because we can do better, and do not want to use what we paid for. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

netiquette

2008-02-27 Thread joerg
Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb Tilman Baumann: PS: Do not reply on tread when you want to open a new topic! Your mailer is smarter than you. In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Agh ACK! Also seen frequently and even worse maybe: Fullquote on daily digest j

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-28 Thread joerg
takes place (-if you can't power on your NEO, connect to USB and try again after ~30 min...). There are chances this will be the same for missing resistor, depending on what logic is in the driver. Maybe one of the devs may shed some more light on this. jOERG

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-28 Thread joerg
___ AKII Technology Charger Model: A10P1-05MP Input: 100-240v~ /0.3A Output: +5v up to 2.0A Add 47.5k 1% resistor between ID pin and ground for openmoko charger identification Anyway a good question, whether there will be other chargers working with GTA02 jOERG

Re: Populated IrDA?

2008-02-28 Thread joerg
(IR-)device(s) might help! completely OT: ambient light sensor? (PCU is supposed to support...) jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Populated IrDA?

2008-02-28 Thread joerg
Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb joerg: Near OT: what's Hold on 3. ring of same connector... Sorry: Hold on 1.ring aka tip / MIC. 3. ring = jack insert sense / LOut (/ IR_enable). j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-28 Thread joerg
Am Do 28. Februar 2008 schrieb Uncle Kridley: Michael Shiloh wrote: There will be a charger for the Neo Freerunner, which has the secret resistor jOERG mentions below. Does this mean that it won't charge (or will only charge slowly) from a generic USB connector/charger? Part

PMU user manual

2008-02-28 Thread joerg
Management Unit... A nice example for open drivers worth nothing without hw-spec (ref: other thread about proprietary firmware) Thanks jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Dasher on OpenMoko?

2008-02-29 Thread joerg
in my opinion jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Idea of a voice mail application

2008-02-29 Thread joerg
Am Fr 29. Februar 2008 schrieb Dean Collins: Can I suggest that you don't really have the processing power onboard the neo to perform a real intelligent call routing application Sorry, but even my TV remote control has the processing power for such a simple application. It only needs a RAM

Re: Idea of a voice mail application

2008-02-29 Thread joerg
See www.capisuite.de for inspiration on concepts. Though it's ISDN, the principles may fit 1:1 for your intended project. cheers j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Idea of a voice mail application

2008-02-29 Thread joerg
Am Sa 1. März 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano ha scritto: In italy the caller will pay for the call but the recipient no, as a recipient if the caller will leave the message on the carrier message box (don't know how to translate, pardon) i have to call it

Re: Idea of a voice mail application

2008-02-29 Thread joerg
Am Sa 1. März 2008 schrieb Steven Kurylo: Nope, for all EU countries i know about, this is absolutely no difference. You pay for a call to provider side voicebox as you do for a straight call. Interesting. On my Rogers (Canada) phone, I don't pay for them to leave messages. I also

PMU user manual

2008-02-29 Thread joerg
Am Fr 29. Februar 2008 schrieb Andy Green: For PCF50633(GTA02) there obviously never was a public datasheet/user manual (at least i found 2 years old postings asking for it), only a broken/empty link on manufacturers site. :-( Please can anybody give a pointer to these docs, or even

Re: iphone-haptic

2008-03-02 Thread joerg
an actuator (Piezo?) directly to the screen. You surely can't do this with the common built-in vibrator motor (though you can give it a try). Mere Vibrator feedback on keypress shouldn't be any issue, even should be standard (best practice) for OM input devices. cheers jOERG

Re: 25 native [iPhone|OpenMoko] we hope to see

2008-03-03 Thread joerg
Am Mo 3. März 2008 schrieb Tilman Baumann: David Samblas Martinez wrote: 22. Digital level Is any side of the phone straigh enough to be able to develop such a freaking geek widget? I could be a funny exercice to play with the accelerometers. Sure, at least backside. No

Re: chroot desn't work

2008-03-03 Thread joerg
Am Mo 3. März 2008 schrieb Federico: mmh you are right: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/moko/mokobox$ file bin/sh bin/sh: symbolic link to `busybox' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/moko/mokobox$ file bin/busybox bin/busybox: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs),

Re: Warning. Don't remove battery with usb power

2008-03-03 Thread joerg
Am Di 4. März 2008 schrieb Ben Wilson: Hey, Just a reminder to everyone *NOT* to pull out the battery while the neo has USB power. Hard to tell what the state machine in 50606 will do... :-( sure no good idea to try on a precious piece of hardware j

Re: Warning. Don't remove battery with usb power

2008-03-03 Thread joerg
Am Di 4. März 2008 schrieb joerg: Am Di 4. März 2008 schrieb Ben Wilson: Hey, Just a reminder to everyone *NOT* to pull out the battery while the neo has USB power. Hard to tell what the state machine in 50606 will do... Maybe substantially increase C1706 from 10u to say 470u

Re: Warning. Don't remove battery with usb power

2008-03-04 Thread joerg
Am Di 4. März 2008 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Ben Wilson wrote: Hey Nick, I've not looked at the electronics inside the neo myself but the sound is typical in the electronics world of a switchmode power supply under grate strain. The reason is a bit more banal. (AFAIK) The scream

Re: Audio wired Headset

2008-03-04 Thread joerg
will not work (or only low sound). I guess 40R should be minimum impedance for the speakers. cheers jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Multi-touch: Many questions to one desire....

2008-03-04 Thread joerg
discussion of a true multi-ts for GTA03. I think this should be a capacitive one. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Multi-touch: Many questions to one desire....

2008-03-04 Thread joerg
Am Mi 5. März 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): joerg ha scritto: I'm investigating to squeeze some multi-touch properties out of the GTA02 4wire-resistor touchscreen, by hacking the basics and probing the ts in a couple non-recommended completely different manners. There still

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread joerg
Am Do 6. März 2008 schrieb Marcus Bauer: I'd try to go for a joint: - |ooo -- silicone joint -- ooo| | =TS | | | |-case| (cut through the phone) Caveat: the

Re: NXP free their PMU user manual/datasheet for OM community, ambient light

2008-03-07 Thread joerg
Great news! Now it seems simple to add a photodiode and a capacitor to have ambient light controlled backlight. :-) Only someone of OM has to disclose which testpoint is connected to 50633, pin32(LEDAMB) jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

ambient light sensor

2008-03-08 Thread joerg
Am Sa 8. März 2008 schrieb joerg: Great news! Now it seems simple to add a photodiode and a capacitor to have ambient light controlled backlight. :-) Only someone of OM has to disclose which testpoint is connected to 50633, pin32(LEDAMB) For GTA02A5 this testpoint is labeled H-TP1705

Re: Openmoko release

2008-03-08 Thread joerg
Am Sa 8. März 2008 schrieb Daniel Spies: If the Freerunner is now free of hardware failures I would like to get one, even if the software is not mass market ready, simply because I don't want to use my spare phone any more (Nokia 3410). As long as Openmoko is ready to make a call

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-10 Thread joerg
, and you wonder whether this is a phone that's registered stolen at them. gsm: show IMEI = *#06#, dunno how to do this via AT cmd set. ATD*#06# ? cheers jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread joerg
. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-11 Thread joerg
? jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread joerg
Am Di 11. März 2008 schrieb Andy Green: - gpg control packet Somebody in the thread at some point said: No, I was just noting you could put the CPU peripheral logic into host mode but leave the EN_USBHOST signal low. Then you could add 15K pulldowns as a hack, and it would all work.

Re: hand charger for neo

2008-03-11 Thread joerg
Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Robin Paulson ha scritto: i spend a fair part of my time away from power points/computers and having recently got a hand-crank powered torch, i realise this would be the way to go for re-charging my neo. I've one too... I've some

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread joerg
Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: joerg, Ah, i see a Y-adapter: one end usb-device, one end receptable for usb charger, one end GTA02 *with ID-R of e.g 82k* PLUS *2 x 15k pulldown*. And GTA02 automatically switching to external powered host mode. :-) This was on the list

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-12 Thread joerg
Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Robin Paulson: So, are there any issues with running software for this OS under OM? is it just a matter of installing the correct dependencies - hildon, etc? You might compile software source for use on OM, with a little work to fix dependencies. However for sure

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-12 Thread joerg
to NEO at the same time, but if all else fails, there are USB-host2host solutions commonly used to create a usb-based network of 2 PCs. Chances to see any kind of changes in layout of GTA02 PCB/housing are *very* low i think. cheers jOERG

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-16 Thread joerg
the wiki mentions usb1.1 everywhere. Can you check your source? I think the wiki is wrong here, due to copypaste from 1973. Andy Green mentioned 2 15k resistors from D+, D- to GND, to detect _highspeed_ cheers jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-16 Thread joerg
Am So 16. März 2008 schrieb Andy Green: - gpg control packet Somebody in the thread at some point said: Could you confirm that USB2 devices are actually recognized in _highspeed_ mode (Freerunner), and which transfer rate we might expect? They are recognized as 12Mbps devices, that's

Re: german openmoko, qtopia, neo1973 forum

2008-03-16 Thread joerg
NXP(!) developed a battery pack(!) named PCF50633?? AFAIK the PCF50633 is GTA02's PMU chip, and the battpack is made by PPS, not NXP. j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread joerg
Am Mo 17. März 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: Do you have some examples to post? Thanks! I didn't know any of this until Magnus said, but it seems it is like this, additional texts appear between additional

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-16 Thread joerg
in the next weeks, no more need for a _monthly_ update blog. cheers jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: network registration from NEO! please help!

2008-03-17 Thread joerg
-mobile cell base station? How can a GTA01 be different than GTA02, if they have same GSM firmware? http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1024#c9 Reporters should include serial number printed on the simcard. cheers jOERG

Re: network registration from NEO! please help!

2008-03-17 Thread joerg
RF-emission interference? Sure you already tested GTA02 with external GSM-antenna. And checked if other cellphone normally working with a bad card starts to fail when GTA02 is near. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: import of dataset for new zealand

2008-03-18 Thread joerg
no redirect, as in HTML. jOERG ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Freerunner available soon! :-)

2008-03-19 Thread joerg
THANKS! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) /j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Price of the Freerunner spare parts

2008-03-23 Thread joerg
Am So 23. März 2008 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz: We will have our own hub in the EU. Neos will move directly from our factory to that hub. What's about availability and pricing of spare parts like LCM, battery, housing? Will there be any repair service? cheers jOERG

Re: Price of the Freerunner spare parts

2008-03-24 Thread joerg
number + address. Surface delivery. cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GSoC 2008

2008-03-25 Thread joerg
to buffer the G-meter data, and recognition of the actual gesture has to be done on main CPU. (no real option) jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GSoC 2008

2008-03-25 Thread joerg
for best match (after transforming for size and orientation). All this is very low accuracy, so 16bit integer and sine-tables will do easily, but i don't think it will become much cheaper than this. That is, if the gestures are more complex than just one sharp shake 2 gentle shakes etc. jOERG

Re: Price of the Freerunner spare parts

2008-03-25 Thread joerg
think. jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Price of the Freerunner spare parts

2008-03-25 Thread joerg
smart-bat coloumb-counter (see wiki). jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: headphone (was: RE: Price of the Freerunner spare parts)

2008-03-26 Thread joerg
wiring and impedance) there are apparently several standards for headsets. Can you tell us which wiring the jack uses and what impedance the earplugs have? I already did this somewhere in wiki, IIRC. Wait a moment, I'll have a look where to find it. jOERG

Re: headphone (was: RE: Price of the Freerunner spare parts)

2008-03-26 Thread joerg
for mic) 2K2 from +3.3v(wolfson codec) (+HoldButton shortcircuit to ground) Due to the internal 33R resistors, any low impedance headset will not work (or only low sound). I guess 40R should be minimum impedance for the speakers. cheers jOERG

Re: GTA01 Machine Config Renamed

2008-03-27 Thread joerg
production line colocated at FIC Suzhou. Whoever may do the assembly, it's an OM product (however OM is closely affiliated to FIC). jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: TomTom on Openmoko?

2008-03-27 Thread joerg
Openmoko run on TomTom go, whatever it's worth for. jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: TomTom on Openmoko?

2008-03-27 Thread joerg
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Dnia Thursday 27 of March 2008, joerg napisał: Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Sebastian Hammerl: Hi, as far as i know on the TomTom go devices is running Linux. So would it be possible to rip out the TomTom applikation and get

Re: TomTom on Openmoko?

2008-03-27 Thread joerg
-routeguidance, I easily can imagine a lot of people who start by using TomTom, later may consider to migrate to OSM, for actuality / foreign maps / fun, whatever reason. jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Price of the Freerunner spare parts

2008-03-27 Thread joerg
-standard. You also may enable 1A-mode (and 500mA mode) via some small GUI-app IIRC. cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

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