Re: GTA01 battery charge circuit: ID pin?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 24. Mai 2008 schrieb Major A: Hi, I have a GTA01 and want to use it even when I don't carry a computer with me. I read that the battery charge circuit of the GTA02 will switch to high current if a 48k resistor is present between the mini-USB ID pin and ground. Does this also apply

Re: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 26. Mai 2008 schrieb Steffen Winkler: stupid question: but for what stands ASU? Abgas Sonder Untersuchung - hey you're no German guy?! ;-) maybe we should find a better name - yea it's hard with all these Spanish and German ambiguities. Let's wait and see what's next... LOL. Siemens

Re: Available Encryption algorithms

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 27. Mai 2008 schrieb David Pottage: If there is a difference between what the spec sheet for the GSM modem supports and what the AT command says is supported, then my guess would be that the GSM modem is also considering what is permitted by the network SIM card. Alternatively there

Re: Car Mode Application...

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 27. Mai 2008 schrieb Staley, Daniel L: * If someone calls while the program is running, ideally I would like the program to pause all music etc and say Incoming call from Fred and display 2 large buttons Ignore and Accept. If accept is pressed, I want the phone to go into

Re: 3G USB Dongle (was Re: Neo as cellular modem?)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: i think it may still be up in the air how to run a usb device and keep the freerunner charging externally. this 3g adapter i'm using draws a lot of power, so it almost certainly won't work when only powered from a freerunner's battery. Nope it's not,

Re: Car Mode Application...

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Staley, Daniel L: One question I still have though: Is it possible to catch the incoming call signal from the GSM modem before the dialer app gets it, and handle all the call stuff in my app? Will I need to rework all of the call taking code? Or is there an

Re: 3G USB Dongle (was Re: Neo as cellular modem?)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: Joerg On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: i think it may still be up in the air Nope it's not, see Y-cable in wiki. Should work perfectly. You just have

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Jan Stöckel: hey given pro-linux.de (german news site)is right, MPX http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/ is now a part of Xorg, and I can remember that the display of the freerunner was ready for multituch, so coud it be possible that the freerunner/openmoko is

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb thomasg: The capacitive touchscreen of the Freerunner only detects a single point and FR has a resistive TS /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | What we need is to enable to install these into the toolchain somehow, | | rather than make that a special do it at the factory operation | to get | | things into toolchain. | | | | Agreed, but till

Re: early experince Freerunners w/ ASU load, vs. thousnads of Freeruners

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): In this Linuxtag report [1] (google translated here [2]) there are not so good news about production :/ Can you share with us something more Steve? Bye [1] http://tinyurl.com/6rs6j2 [2] http://tinyurl.com/643y64 -- Treviño's

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
you are not supposed to correct each single keystroke - just like on T9. Simply type ahead and *in the end* select from list the word you tried to type, probably that's nearest to _all_ of your physical keystrokes PLUS some recent/most-used-factor. If I got that right, Raster? /j

Re: 3G USB Dongle (was Re: Neo as cellular modem?)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: | Joerg | | On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: | Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: | i think it may still be up

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: USB power direction in host mode (was: Re: 3G USB Dongle (was Re: Neo as cellular modem?))

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: | Joerg | | On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: it's possible we can do this - in svn there is even a full qwerty kbd layout i initially used - with ctrl, alt, etc. for terminal junkies, BUT for now correction is always-on. U made my day. :-) Just wondering how long it takes til there's a howto

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the WiFi chip in | fact _can_ do AP mode, but that mode is not allowed in the open source | driver. | | its a firmware. the wifi module has its own

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Joerg, as it seems that my mail did not reach the community list (I am not a subscriber, just monitoring the archives) may I ask you directly the question regarding multi tutch :-) . See below: Hi all, if the geometric average point is

Re: multi-touch?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Bastian Muck: I have a little idea. Imagine, you put your finger somewhere on the right side of the screen. The average point is also somewhere at the right side. When you put another finger e.g. at the left side the average point jumps somewhere to the middle. This

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2008 08:59:10 +0200, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're helpless unless Atheros decided to implement Master mode in their closed firmware. Unfortunately the power advantages of having the bulk

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Lasse Poulsen wrote: | Also it would be nice to see how long call time you have if you talk | continually (might i suggest an audio-book or to). If you don't i | properly will (haven't got the device yet!) |

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb ian douglas: I think that knowing a best case scenario (where you stay in the same location), you get about 6 hours of talk time, is still helpful. Cell phone manufacturers typically report a best case scenario when reporting talk time and standby time, with the

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb AVee: This test might not even be 'best case'. A better test would be having the Neo really close to the cell tower for optimal conditions. I guess the difference between testing far away from the cell tower and testing close to the tower might be pretty big.

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): ian douglas wrote: I think that knowing a best case scenario (where you stay in the same location), you get about 6 hours of talk time, is still helpful. Cell phone manufacturers typically report a best case scenario when reporting

2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) or B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where

Re: kids phone

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I'm contemplating making a kids phone from a Freerunner. I'm supposing the software part will be doable: - interface with a few large icons - it should be possible to make a call to the phone and it will answer automatically in a

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb niclone: Joerg Reisenweber a écrit : Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there. Even if | every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see anyone | using it. | Today bluetooth headsets are cheap and

Re: AW: multi-touch?

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Fabian Off: Hey! How does synaptics handle this? When I look at the output my touchpad does, I can see X Y Fingers Values... Maybe we could look into this code and see how they do detect the amount of fingers? Dunno whether they work nearly the same, but I

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Benedikt Schindler: Sven Klomp schrieb: 2.5mm, since I want to pick up a phone call while listening to music. Sven And that isn't possible with the actual 3.5mm headset on the GTA01 / 02 ??? It IS possible with the ACTUAL *2.5mm* headset on

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Rahul Joshi: And I thought I read somewhere in wiki that the touchscreen would be similar if not same to the ones having multi-touch sensing support (which can be programmed to support multi-touch at some point of time). With your statement I can't decide if I'm

Re: screen protector

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: the cheaper ones. This make me worry that they might not have a good conductivity, which is nessecary since the Freerunner has a resistive touch screen. The R-TS is BETWEEN two foils that touch each other when pressing on some point with

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Shawn: 1 more vote for 'B'. I'm curious, though, why the decision has to be made in such a rush for future editions of the product? . . .shawn because we're moving forward very fast ;-) You see it took long time for GTA02, we're trying to speed up, and product

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: Joerg Reisenweber wrote: B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm headSET standards or adapters?) This one, but with a 4-pin (stereo

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Rahul Joshi: The vendor of the touch panel we are using said it might be possible. But it would be a considerable driver effort. I'd really like to see a pointer to this first hand info. This guy I*d like to invite on a couple a beers and have a chat - always thought

Re: gsmd question

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
hey guys, this was an issue 1988. Since then, AT command set is well understood, for Hayes modems and everything that came later on... Sorry it's late at night here, and I might be a little ungraceful... But REALLY *THATS* an issue??? c'mon let me write your specs ;-) maybe I'm totally OT, then

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Kim Alvefur: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 09:16 -0400, Kevin Dean wrote: 3.5 mm. I hear mention of standard 2.5 mm and other than my 1973 and the Freerunner, I don't think I've ever seen a 2.5 mm used. Most wired headsets on phones I've purchased in the past each used

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
that's been my idea when I started. But obviously there's a demand for adapter-free 3.5 connectivity. So you probably have to use an adapter for headsets (with mic)[see other post]. No big thing though. Thanks for voting jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: gsmd question

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Bin Chen: On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bin Chen: I am a mobile phone developer and I am looking at the GSMd application on OpenMoko. Seems all the AT command are sent to UART without waiting the OK or ERROR

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: Kevin Dean wrote: I'd like to reconfirm this before reporting, or at least kill my theory before reporting on it and creating a false lead. It seems that the SIM itself is important. Two likely factors affecting GSM buzz are: which band it's

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Lally Singh: On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Ilja O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wild speculation Having two memory card slots (one for OS, one easy accessible for usage with changeable memory cards) could be nicer than standard (current) architecture. You

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: Joerg Reisenweber wrote: your link: that's it Thanks for sharing your thoughts and giving this link If you do choose a 4-pin 3.5mm connector to be compatible with iPhone (or with another major vendor), please double-check that you use the same

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: Joerg Reisenweber wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA01_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29 you read this field during a call when actually transmitting audio (NO silence)? I called the Neo from my other (non-GSM) phone

Re: Private data protection.

2008-06-01 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 1. Juni 2008 schrieb Kim Alvefur: On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 10:55 +0300, Ilja O. wrote: Also portable self-destruction hardware would be nice. echo overload /sys/devices/blaha/battery LOL :-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 5. Mai 2008 schrieb steve: Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sita.openmoko.org) by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K32Dg-0001Yg-F5; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:04:32 +0200 Received: from smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.64.88]) by

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Bin Chen: Hi, I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time of the response, another unsolicited command sent to the AP and the name is the same: AT+CREG? +CREG: 2

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: Am Mo 5. Mai 2008 schrieb steve: Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sita.openmoko.org) by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K32Dg-0001Yg-F5; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:04:32 +0200 Received: from smtp115

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time of the response, another unsolicited command sent to

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
I'm not sure about my NDA, but this topic has been around quite some while now. So mickeyl says it's about evolution, not revolution. GTA03 -the recycled name- (which I'm working on the electric schematics of the device right now) is an improved version of GTA02 (if plans don't change ;),

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-03 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
I'm just working on improving the schematics (like quite some other guys of OM staff), but we at EE are not deciding on key features of future products, we are provided with specs on what to design. Anyway your suggestions and requests will be noticed when posted in this list. cheers jOERG

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 4. Juni 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:53:29AM -0700, Matt Mets wrote: | I believe this has been discussed at some point, but there is a | file-storage module that emulates a mass storage device: |

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 4. Juni 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: Yes init 1 sounds like the kind of medicine that matches the problem, but actually doing telinit 1 when you want to share storage is pretty harsh. I know it's a bit unfair but imagine if that was how things

Re: duplicate mail

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 4. Juni 2008 schrieb Philippe Guillebert: Hi list, Am I the only one to get some of the e-mails on this list twice ou more ? looks like the issue is back ... didn't motice it lately. But it's individual issue, seems we won't fix it. I do an occasional CTRL-* on my mail-UA to delete

Re: OT: TinyURL [Was: OT: ajax image galleries]

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb AVee: On Wednesday 04 June 2008 22:55, Andy Powell wrote: tinyurl is useful instead of typing in twattishly long urls which many sites insist on using. Generally you don;t want to click on a link provided by someone you don't know/trust. Not only that but if I

Re: OT: TinyURL

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Stroller: On 4 Jun 2008, at 18:12, Joseph Reeves wrote: ... TinyURL on the other hand... Why would anyone ever use that? I never click on links unless I know where they link to. Here's a plan for abuse: 1: Discover browser 0-day exploit 2: Put up a

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Lally Singh: AFAIK, the AGPS allows you to upload additional information into the onboard correlator (the CPU that does the actual location calculations for GPS) to enhance the accuracy over what you get with simple satellite triangulation. It's about reducing

Re: GPS -- AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flyin_bbb8: just wanted to add, Differential GPS is mainly for aircraft GPS systems to get better guidance on the ILS (Instrument Landing System). Aaaaha, I seen it being used for all sorts of archeology and buildings construction purposes. And from the info in

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: When it comes to GTA03, I will not buy one (because I buy the GTA02), so I will not be the target. Maybe QVGA is a good solution, or maybe it should be an option when you buy If I got that right, we just need to tune some of the

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: but there is definitely a i want as insane a dpi as i can get group here. this is for sure. the question is - is it really the majority of users. :) No it's not at all the question - other than for academic insight. If a VGA-screen isn't much more

Re: Is case design changing for GTA03?

2008-06-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Ron K. Jeffries: I'm almost sure I read a comment saying (in passing) that Freerunner case design will change for GTA03. Is the change strictly to accommodate the new 3.5mm plug for the headset, or are other changes being considered? We also got a camera on

Re: Is case design changing for GTA03?

2008-06-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb rakshat hooja: We also got a camera on GTA03. cheers jOERG Any specs of the camera. This was a quote of a previous posting of another OM-engineer (Carsten IIRC). Honestly I'm designing on the actual schematics and I have no idea yet about any camera

Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

2008-06-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Yorick Matthys: Does anybody know if the FreeRunner's case is adequatly scratch-resistant? (I'll post this question on the device-owner list) It's like every of those mockup-rubber softtouch-surfaces: amazingly insensitive to small scratches, but especially on aged

Re: Is case design changing for GTA03?

2008-06-09 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 9. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: On 6/9/08, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/9 Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: With a modular design like that, then you could have one device shipped out with many configurations possible. You could then buy the

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-10 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 10. Juni 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:16:06 +0800 Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: 0n Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 01:43:08PM +0800, Carsten Haitzler wrote: we are in a world where to get gfx support to run such high resolutions means we

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 - product management, features assumptions

2008-06-10 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: No 3G for GTA03, 2G/EDGE only?

2008-06-10 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb ian douglas: As an aside, when comparing 2G and 3G: Even according to Apple, the new iPhone 3G model will get up to 10 hours of talk time on 2G but half as long (5 hours) in 3G mode. I'd love to learn more about how voice quality differs between 2G and 3G --

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-11 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Adilson Oliveira: So, cells like the samsung d880 just swap electrically between the 2 SIM cards? The spec say you can use both cards at the same time but don't say exactly what same time means. There are phones out there that use 2 or 3 cards true-concurrently.

Re: Click Feedback?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Esben Stien: That would be an extremely negligible latency and it would give us real time dropout less audio on the device, which is pretty crucial on such a thing as a phone. You really want dropouts in the audio when you use your system during a call?. There

Re: Acceleration in our pockets

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Peter Nijs: Isn't the shared bus an advantage because now it can use DMA? Maybe that's why it is possible to hook up an sd-card to the glamo anyway. I see no other explanation why one would put an sd cardreader in a graphics ship. Please tell me if and why

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Bumbl: would it, in theory, be possible to emulate a 2nd sim-card which was inserted and saved on the flash memory before and switch between it and the inserted one? SIM cards implement an on-board crypographic authentication mechanism that simply can't be

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Yorick Matthys: this should do the trick: http://ucables.com/ref/2-SIMS-IN1 or http://ucables.com/ref/SIM-CLONE you still need the IMSI and Ki numbers, but those can be obtained (at least that is what i read a long while ago) but emulating would be much

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb David Pottage: On Thu, June 12, 2008 3:21 pm, Bumbl wrote: would it, in theory, be possible to emulate a 2nd sim-card which was inserted and saved on the flash memory before and switch between it and the inserted one? In theory this is possible if you can

Re: [OT]Re: Why not use forum?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Andy Loughran: The developers must prefer mailing lists. The day these lists go web-forum, I probably have to quit my job. /jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko

Re: GTA03 speculation [UNOFFICIAL]

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Ron K. Jeffries: I am the one who predicted GTA03 in December 2008 here's my reasoning for targeting that date. as an aside, I think December is the LATEST date GTA03 will see the light of day. With the modest changes being made in GTA03, it would almost be

Re: GTA03 speculation [UNOFFICIAL]

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Ken Young: Ron K. Jeffries wrote: GTA03 is a fairly small re-spin of GTA02. They are not doing anything very risky. The biggest change is a new GSM radio that supports EDGE, which is much faster than GPRS that GTA02 has. Do we know if the problem

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb Chris Wright: Since the alternative to using QVGA is using VGA with a faster GPU and processor, One last time: ...OR USING VGA IN QVGA MODE WITH SAME PROCESSOR, AND SWITCH TO VGA WHENEVER YOU NEED THIS RESOLUTION. It's all about nothing else than just saving some

Re: Why not use foru

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb arne anka: Plus, forums usually have provisions for storage and selective notifications. you mail client doesn't store your email? wow! :) do you store everry mail? No, kmail does (since I managed to do pop3-alike msg-retrieving over imap. IMAP SUCKS)

Re: Why not use forum?

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb AVee: On Thursday 12 June 2008 17:30, Leonti Bielski wrote: Hi! I was wondering - why are we not using forum for community? It's much better to view, you can subscribe and unsubscribe to the topics you want and etc. The main Personally I don't like

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: On 6/13/08, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Nijs wrote: no problems. what i don't want is people to get their hopes up. this was in the context of people asking if they can play vga video and me going good luck!.

Re: Why not use newsgroup?

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb Martin Bernreuther: Am Freitag, 13. Juni 2008 schrieb Alexey Feldgendler: By default you just download the headers without having to get the text of every message, You can do that with IMAP, which is the modern protocol for accessing your mail. You

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
I thought about similar things some time ago. This device makes for a nice embedded controller for industries etc. For sure it will be no big problem to sell without housing, and save a few bucks per device. cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?

2008-06-14 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb Rok Jaklič: Hi. I am sorry to be just one of the other 2 billion people who want to buy this phone, but since I have to buy new phone, time is a pretty hard limit for me. Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some estimated date

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-14 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb steve: A big percentage of requests I get are for this, however, they always want some hardware twist. They don't exactly know our hw, I guess (e.g it's not commonly known we have a low-voltage-RS232, I2C, and separate power feed on internal debug-con /

Re: Invisible Shield

2008-06-14 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 15. Juni 2008 schrieb Ajit Natarajan: Hi Steve, I recall a message posted a few days ago that Invisible Shield is willing to make a custom full body protector for FR if they can get a unit in house. Any update on whether a unit can be sent to them or if a unit has already been

Re: Anyone working on a cron port?

2008-06-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 15. Juni 2008 schrieb Peter J. Holzer: On 2008-06-15 02:29:48 -0700, ian douglas wrote: Suppose I could check the project page, but it's 2:30am and I'm tired and lazy. I was updating and installing some software on my Freerunner tonight to test mp3 playback and noticed again that

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 15. Juni 2008 schrieb Mikael Lammentausta: User John running sudo rm -rf /* is better than root running rm -rf /* because...? Because sudo can be configured to accept users in certain groups to run certain commands with or without a password. rm can be restricted, whereas opkg can

Re: Anyone working on a cron port?

2008-06-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 15. Juni 2008 schrieb arne anka: anacron see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacron #Drawbacks Also anacron doesn't address the rtcwake topic. We should plan for something more versatile that's merging cron(/anacron), at/batch, rtcwake, and the other powermanagement and wake-from-suspend

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
If you have root AND user, root can make a backup copy of user's valuable data every once in a while, and user or the virus she imported while browsing the web can NOT destroy this backup. I can't follow your arguments. It's NOT an evil person we need to fence in, it's bad behaviour of

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-17 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 16. Juni 2008 schrieb Al Johnson: On Sunday 15 June 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb steve: A big percentage of requests I get are for this, however, they always want some hardware twist. They don't exactly know our hw, I guess (e.g it's not commonly

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-06-18 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
The vote is closed. We decided to use 3.5mm. Please see original thread! /jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Possible Camera

2008-06-18 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 18. Juni 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i don't think it would be a problem. Simple avr processor can handle this camera. Yep, handle via I2C, no problem. But what are you going to do with the RGB-data-stream??? And here we have 400Mhz processor with i2c support. The question is do

Re: GPS

2008-06-23 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Francesco Cat: the FreeRunner will have a true GPS integrated, not only an AGPS system, wouldn't it? Because I was given the address of this flyer: http://www.pulster.de/info/pdas/openmoko/freerunner-flyer.pdf and I hope it is just out-dated

Re: GPS

2008-06-23 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 23. Juni 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As I get it the AGPS is a 'true' GPS. The only differense is that agps is faster - it additionally uses signals from gsm stations for faster positioning. That's why it's called 'assisted gps'. Nope, it uses info from a AGPS-server somewhere in

Battery life [was: Re: Can the Freerunner now be charged with 1 or with 2 Amp ?]

2008-06-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 24. Juni 2008 schrieb Yorick Moko: It is known that the way you charge a battery influences the lifetime. Have there been any tests as to which is the best way to charge the freerunner? Nope, didn't find the time to do the expected 500 charge/discharge cycles ;-) Honestly, this is

Re: GPS

2008-06-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 24. Juni 2008 schrieb Jisakiel: As a matter of fact that database would not even be needed, as we *do* have a GPS to get positions. So, for instance: - A location is defined somehow, and *beforehand*. Say manually while being there, perhaps with some precission range attached (high:

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 26. Juni 2008 schrieb Kevin Dean: *** audio quailty on the headphone is lousy due to a hardware bug - as mp3 player useless *** Quality rating is prone to individual bias. Well, for nerds there will be projects similar to this one http://www.redwineaudio.com/iMod.html or this one

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