Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-30 Thread Davide Scaini
I tried the beta2 release... I found it better than the previous one, but
needs still a lot of work to do. Lots of crashes of the apps... and the same
problems you mentioned:
- low call volume
- unreliable wifiscan (but i managed to do it 3 times succesfully, the real
bug is that you can't type with the keyboard because the popup menu is
placed a layer over ;-) )
- crashes

..but... very nice!
Hoping to have some improvements soon ;-)
d

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.uswrote:

 On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:21:26 -0500, Charles Pax charles@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net
 wrote:
 
  Just installed the latest android image, and it's looking nice,
  responsiveness is where 2008.8 used to be, and my main gripes from a 1hr
  play are;
 
  - very low call volume, despite setting it to full
  - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows:
  power
  button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon
 
  Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
  workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!
 
 
  If the rumors [1] of the G2 are true, we won't have to worry about ugly
  workarounds; a touch screen only interface will be in the upstream
 
  -Charles Pax
 
  [1]
 http://i.gizmodo.com/5135926/android-g2-photos-thinner-and-no-keyboard

 However, the G2 does have the five hardware buttons (plus a trackpoint,
 looks like) that 'cupcake' is said to require...

 j

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-29 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:21:26 -0500, Charles Pax charles@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote:
 
 Just installed the latest android image, and it's looking nice,
 responsiveness is where 2008.8 used to be, and my main gripes from a 1hr
 play are;

 - very low call volume, despite setting it to full
 - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows:
 power
 button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon

 Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
 workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

 
 If the rumors [1] of the G2 are true, we won't have to worry about ugly
 workarounds; a touch screen only interface will be in the upstream
 
 -Charles Pax
 
 [1]
http://i.gizmodo.com/5135926/android-g2-photos-thinner-and-no-keyboard

However, the G2 does have the five hardware buttons (plus a trackpoint,
looks like) that 'cupcake' is said to require...

j

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[android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Russell Hay
Just installed the latest android image, and it's looking nice,
responsiveness is where 2008.8 used to be, and my main gripes from a 1hr
play are;

- very low call volume, despite setting it to full
- to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power
button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon

Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread arne anka
 - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power
 button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon

 Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
 workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

what's the aux button used for?
since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible  
to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode?

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Russell Hay
aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when
browsing the menus.

As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable  - it's
still released as 'Beta 2' right now.

2009/1/22 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de

  - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power
  button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon
 
  Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
  workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

 what's the aux button used for?
 since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible
 to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode?

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Davide Scaini
just few question:
which image?
which kernel?
which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels
of more than 1.8mb?)
flash or sd?

thanks!
[i'm interested in testing android but i'm afraid of distroing my actual
uboot configuration that works nicely booting my debian ;-) ]
d

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote:

 aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when
 browsing the menus.

 As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable  -
 it's still released as 'Beta 2' right now.

 2009/1/22 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de

  - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power
  button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon
 
  Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
  workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

 what's the aux button used for?
 since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible
 to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode?

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Russell Hay
Hey, sorry I'm being remiss :-)

I used the images here http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files


- that page also shows how you need to partition your SD card. The kernel
image is 1.9Mb therefore works with my 'normal' uboot. I flashed it rather
than play around with the SD card option. Always have - is just simpler to
try one at a time and reflash.



2009/1/22 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com

 just few question:
 which image?
 which kernel?
 which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels
 of more than 1.8mb?)
 flash or sd?

 thanks!
 [i'm interested in testing android but i'm afraid of distroing my actual
 uboot configuration that works nicely booting my debian ;-) ]
 d


 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote:

 aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when
 browsing the menus.

 As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable  -
 it's still released as 'Beta 2' right now.

 2009/1/22 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de

  - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows:
 power
  button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon
 
  Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
  workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

 what's the aux button used for?
 since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible
 to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode?

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread dscaini
nice!
thank you very much i'll give a try immediately!
d


On 1/22/09, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote:
 Hey, sorry I'm being remiss :-)

 I used the images here http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files


 - that page also shows how you need to partition your SD card. The kernel
 image is 1.9Mb therefore works with my 'normal' uboot. I flashed it rather
 than play around with the SD card option. Always have - is just simpler to
 try one at a time and reflash.



 2009/1/22 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com

 just few question:
 which image?
 which kernel?
 which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for
 kernels
 of more than 1.8mb?)
 flash or sd?

 thanks!
 [i'm interested in testing android but i'm afraid of distroing my actual
 uboot configuration that works nicely booting my debian ;-) ]
 d


 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote:

 aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when
 browsing the menus.

 As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable  -
 it's still released as 'Beta 2' right now.

 2009/1/22 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de

  - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows:
 power
  button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon
 
  Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are
  workarounds for a lack of a keyboard!

 what's the aux button used for?
 since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible
 to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode?

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes:
 which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels
 of more than 1.8mb?)

U-boot has been able to load large kernels from ext2 for a long time
afaik.


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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread Jim Ancona
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes:
 which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels
 of more than 1.8mb?)

 U-boot has been able to load large kernels from ext2 for a long time
 afaik.

Some of the kernels floating are larger than 2mb, which requires a
change to U-boot parameters (or switching to Qi).

The Koolu kernel Russel refers to shouldn't require any change.

Jim

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Re: [android] inital thoughts

2009-01-22 Thread C├ędric Berger
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 06:21, Charles Pax charles@gmail.com wrote:
 If the rumors [1] of the G2 are true, we won't have to worry about ugly
 workarounds; a touch screen only interface will be in the upstream


Yes, there is touchscreen only support in development.
The coming android cupcake branch does include software keyboard support.

But the Neo has only 2 buttons which is really not enough...

See thread 
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/fbade4fc62021894/2c80b560c616b22c
:

Cupcake still requires the send, end, home, menu, and back hard keys
to function properly.

So we still need workarounds to simulate 5 keys with only 2 available

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