Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-08 Thread Martin Jansa
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 11:36:43PM -0500, c_c wrote:
  http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29644-r12_armv4t.ipk
  
  Or when desktop at home is running then there will updated build every
  day, if there is a change in mplayer svn (carefull my up is only 2mb/s).
  http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.dev.gta/ipk/armv4t/
  
   Thanks. Will try it and post back.

Maybe try rather -r13 or/and -r14 (links in attachement), I've included
config files for setting default -ac to tremor,mad and -vo to glamo

How low is 'low accuracy'? And why do we need the floating point
 implementation if it kill as much as 50% cpu?

I'm not able to distinguish between sound of tremor/ffvorbis/vorbis, so
low accuracy is anough for my ears.

Does this version need the -ac flag?

-r12 yes.. it even used ffvorbis by default and then failed with
Unsupported instruction (will investigate later if someone interested in
vorbis floating point version on arm)

-r13 and -r14 have -ac set to tremor,mad in config file installed in
/usr/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf

I made a small bash test-suite mplayerTest.sh in [1], which I used to
test available binaries for features (which -ac fails with them) and for
performance (real/user/sys time from time command) see mplayerTest.final
in [2] or more details in mplayer.log in [3].

If you have some interesting binary, please send me your results or link
which version should I test with my testfiles.

Conclusion from test:

1) tremor is really way to go without FPU on neo.
2) mad (fixed point implementation of mp3 decoder) performs also better
on neo than ffmp3, but not as significantly asi tremor/vorbis.
3) only binaries without tremor support are sad to say old glamo version
mplayerOG and mplayerUN from shr-unstable feed.

My upgraded mplayer with rebased glamo patch works for me now only on
shr-unstable. On my experimental install with xorg from git it's
rendered somewhere (or at least it seems so from logs), but nothing is
shown on display. And sdl -vo even makes xserver to segfault imediately.

Maybe I'll try to build updated binaries with external tremor from xiph
upstream
1) svn://svn.xiph.org/trunk;module=Tremor;proto=http
2) svn://svn.xiph.org/branches/lowmem-branch;module=Tremor;proto=http
3) internal tremor but with disabled tremor-low
but last time I checked it was the same from performance POV.

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mplayerTest.sh
Description: Bourne shell script
Testfiles:
ogg - AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 112.0 kbit/7.94% (ratio: 14000-176400)
mp3 - AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 112.0 kbit/7.94% (ratio: 14000-176400) the 
same as ogg, made by ogg2mp3
avi - VIDEO:  [FMP4]  240x320  24bpp  15.000 fps  164.1 kbps (20.0 kbyte/s)

Codecs:
tremor   - afm: tremor (OggVorbis audio)
vorbis   - afm: libvorbis (OggVorbis Audio)
ffvorbis - afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Vorbis decoder)
mad  - afm: libmad (libMAD MPEG layer 1-2-3)
ffmp3- afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG layer-3 audio)
glamo- vfm: hwmp4 (MPEG-4 output (.mp4 or SMedia Glamo hardware))
sdl  - vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)

Binaries:
mplayer13
http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29649-r13_armv4t.ipk
mplayer14
http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29415-r14_armv4t.ipk
mplayerOG
http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2
mplayerPT
http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer-ptt_dev-SVN-r28791-4.1.2_armv4t.ipk
mplayerTL
http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low_armv4t.ipk
mplayerTT
http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2_armv4t.ipk
mplayerUN
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2-r12_armv4t.ipk

F .. when command failed with error exit status
L .. see LOG below, codec not found or not used as expected


| Codec| Build | | real| user  | sys   |
DATA
| tremor   | mplayer13 | | 0:36.13 | 10.79 |  2.29 |
| ffvorbis | mplayer13 |F| 0:00.56 |  0.35 |  0.16 |
| vorbis   | mplayer13 |L| 0:00.51 |  0.33 |  0.14 |
| mad  | mplayer13 | | 0:35.72 | 11.34 |  1.06 |
| ffmp3| mplayer13 | | 0:37.50 | 17.02 |  2.66 |
| sdl  | mplayer13 | | 0:32.50 | 12.98 |  1.17 |
| glamo| mplayer13 | | 0:31.42 |  5.50 |  1.03 |
| tremor   | mplayer14 | | 0:36.15 | 10.13 |  3.08 |
| ffvorbis | mplayer14 |F| 0:00.58 |  0.33 |  0.20 |
| vorbis   | mplayer14 |L| 0:00.47 |  0.30 |  0.14 |
| mad  | mplayer14 | | 0:35.68 | 11.02 |  1.09 |
| ffmp3| mplayer14 | | 0:37.73 | 17.83 |  1.77 |
| sdl  | mplayer14 | | 0:32.55 | 13.02 |  1.23 |
| glamo| mplayer14 | | 0:31.45 |  5.45 |  0.93 |
| tremor   | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.67 |  0.53 |  0.12 |
| ffvorbis | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.73 |  0.51 |  0.17 |
| vorbis   | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.65 |  0.49 |  0.16 |
| mad  | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.33 |  0.17 |  0.08 |
| ffmp3| mplayerOG | | 0:01.84 |  1.65 |  0.12 |

Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-06 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 08:53:31PM -0500, c_c wrote:
 Mario Hülsegge wrote:
  
  - audio works only if i start intone before i watch a video
  
   Could be because you need to insmod snd-pcm-oss for the audio to work.

   Presumably mplayer was compiled with support for audio on Linux systems,
so the option '-ao alsa' ought to do the trick.

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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-05 Thread Martin Jansa
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 11:36:43PM -0500, c_c wrote:
  http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29644-r12_armv4t.ipk
   Thanks. Will try it and post back.

Maybe try rather -r13 or/and -r14 (links in attachement), I've included
config files for setting default -ac to tremor,mad and -vo to glamo

How low is 'low accuracy'? And why do we need the floating point
 implementation if it kill as much as 50% cpu?

I'm not able to distinguish between sound of tremor/ffvorbis/vorbis, so
low accuracy is anough for my ears.

Does this version need the -ac flag?

-r12 yes.. it even used ffvorbis by default and then failed with
Unsupported instruction (will investigate later if someone interested in
vorbis floating point version on arm)

-r13 and -r14 have -ac set to tremor,mad in config file installed in
/usr/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf

I made a small bash test-suite mplayerTest.sh in [1], which I used to
test available binaries for features (which -ac fails with them) and for
performance (real/user/sys time from time command) see mplayerTest.final
in [2] or more details in mplayer.log in [3].

If you have some interesting binary, please send me your results or link
which version should I test with my testfiles.

Conclusion from test:

1) tremor is really way to go without FPU on neo.
2) mad (fixed point implementation of mp3 decoder) performs also better
on neo than ffmp3, but not as significantly asi tremor/vorbis.
3) only binaries without tremor support are sad to say old glamo version
mplayerOG and mplayerUN from shr-unstable feed.

My upgraded mplayer with rebased glamo patch works for me now only on
shr-unstable. On my experimental install with xorg from git it's
rendered somewhere (or at least it seems so from logs), but nothing is
shown on display. And sdl -vo even makes xserver to segfault imediately.

Maybe I'll try to build updated binaries with external tremor from xiph upstream
1) svn://svn.xiph.org/trunk;module=Tremor;proto=http
2) svn://svn.xiph.org/branches/lowmem-branch;module=Tremor;proto=http
3) internal tremor but with disabled tremor-low
but last time I checked it was the same from performance POV.

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mplayerTest.sh
Description: Bourne shell script
Testfiles:
ogg - AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 112.0 kbit/7.94% (ratio: 14000-176400)
mp3 - AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 112.0 kbit/7.94% (ratio: 14000-176400) the 
same as ogg, made by ogg2mp3
avi - VIDEO:  [FMP4]  240x320  24bpp  15.000 fps  164.1 kbps (20.0 kbyte/s)

Codecs:
tremor   - afm: tremor (OggVorbis audio)
vorbis   - afm: libvorbis (OggVorbis Audio)
ffvorbis - afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Vorbis decoder)
mad  - afm: libmad (libMAD MPEG layer 1-2-3)
ffmp3- afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG layer-3 audio)
glamo- vfm: hwmp4 (MPEG-4 output (.mp4 or SMedia Glamo hardware))
sdl  - vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)

Binaries:
mplayer13
http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29649-r13_armv4t.ipk
mplayer14
http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29415-r14_armv4t.ipk
mplayerOG
http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2
mplayerPT
http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer-ptt_dev-SVN-r28791-4.1.2_armv4t.ipk
mplayerTL
http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2-tremor-low_armv4t.ipk
mplayerTT
http://www.paultt.org/downloads/openmoko/mplayer_dev-SVN-r29155-4.1.2_armv4t.ipk
mplayerUN
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2-r12_armv4t.ipk

F .. when command failed with error exit status
L .. see LOG below, codec not found or not used as expected


| Codec| Build | | real| user  | sys   |
DATA
| tremor   | mplayer13 | | 0:36.13 | 10.79 |  2.29 |
| ffvorbis | mplayer13 |F| 0:00.56 |  0.35 |  0.16 |
| vorbis   | mplayer13 |L| 0:00.51 |  0.33 |  0.14 |
| mad  | mplayer13 | | 0:35.72 | 11.34 |  1.06 |
| ffmp3| mplayer13 | | 0:37.50 | 17.02 |  2.66 |
| sdl  | mplayer13 | | 0:32.50 | 12.98 |  1.17 |
| glamo| mplayer13 | | 0:31.42 |  5.50 |  1.03 |
| tremor   | mplayer14 | | 0:36.15 | 10.13 |  3.08 |
| ffvorbis | mplayer14 |F| 0:00.58 |  0.33 |  0.20 |
| vorbis   | mplayer14 |L| 0:00.47 |  0.30 |  0.14 |
| mad  | mplayer14 | | 0:35.68 | 11.02 |  1.09 |
| ffmp3| mplayer14 | | 0:37.73 | 17.83 |  1.77 |
| sdl  | mplayer14 | | 0:32.55 | 13.02 |  1.23 |
| glamo| mplayer14 | | 0:31.45 |  5.45 |  0.93 |
| tremor   | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.67 |  0.53 |  0.12 |
| ffvorbis | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.73 |  0.51 |  0.17 |
| vorbis   | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.65 |  0.49 |  0.16 |
| mad  | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.33 |  0.17 |  0.08 |
| ffmp3| mplayerOG | | 0:01.84 |  1.65 |  0.12 |
| sdl  | mplayerOG |L| 0:00.65 |  0.50 |  0.12 |
| glamo| mplayerOG | | 0:30.79 |  0.49 |  0.25 |
| tremor   | mplayerPT | | 0:36.12 | 14.96 |  2.34 |
| ffvorbis | mplayerPT |F| 0:00.59 |  0.31 |  0.18 |
| 

Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread KaZeR



c_c wrote:
 
 
   The video playing part needs a lot of work - and there aren't too many
 people interested (or so it seems :-)
 
 

Or maybe it's like mms and bluetooth pairing/handling: people are interested
but don't make much noise about it cause it's nowhere near functionnal right
now..
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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread Paul Fertser
KaZeR ka...@altern.org writes:
 Or maybe it's like mms and bluetooth pairing/handling: people are
 interested but don't make much noise about it cause it's nowhere
 near functionnal right now..

Bluetooth pairing works flawlessly, bluetooth A2DP works, bluetooth
networking works, bluetooth music player control works, bluetooth
mouse/keyboard work, bluetooth GSM headsets work but with
inconveniences.

What bluetooth doesn't work for you?

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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread arne anka
 bluetooth GSM headsets work but with
 inconveniences.

that's putting it mildly.
in its current state it is unsable. we had taht discussion a while ago in  
extenso.

 What bluetooth doesn't work for you?

the same as the last time taht discussion surfaced: headset.
the idea of rebooting the entire phone just to switch from bt headset back  
to handset does not really fit the description of working.
if that issue has been solved now, at least nothing was posted here.


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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread arne anka
 If you guys tested the support right after it was written and didn't
 wait for half a year probably the developers would fix the bugs fast,
 now i'm afraid they're busy with other stuff.

agreed.
but then again, i don't recall a lot of status messages on bt support on  
the community list back then.

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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:25 PM, arne ankaopenm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
 If you guys tested the support right after it was written and didn't
 wait for half a year probably the developers would fix the bugs fast,
 now i'm afraid they're busy with other stuff.

 agreed.
 but then again, i don't recall a lot of status messages on bt support on
 the community list back then.

One of the reasons of getting a FR in the first place was the BT chip
inside. In .nl, a headset is compulsory while driving a vehicle, and I
have a headset for that reason.

I've been able to make 1 (one) successful call with the headset, and I
had quite some hoops to jump through in order to get it to work (Paul
helped me immensely there, by the way!).

So, basically I'm still looking forward to a button that says
'reconnect to BT Headset' or 'disconnect from BT Headset' in SHR
settings (in 'Connectivity?'), since, indeed, most people have and use
1 headset.

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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread Mario Huelsegge


c_c wrote:
 
   After trying both the mplayer-glamo and the mplayer-low versions I can
 say that neither really seems to solve the issue.
   Probably more tuning of mplayer is required - or perhaps there is
 another problem that needs fixing. Playing 320x240 (prescaled and rotated)
 with sound seems about ok. Anything bigger creates issues.
   The video playing part needs a lot of work - and there aren't too many
 people interested (or so it seems :-)
 

generally i find the mplayer-glamo very promising. without audio, 
i can play a reencoded 320x240 file with 10% cpu, compared to 
50% with the normal mplayer. so it is worth a try.
i guess the pre-built version i use has just some problem with audio.
 if this is solved, performence should be much improved.
i hope there are some other people interested in tv series on the 
neo out there :)
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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread Martin Jansa
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 07:13:07AM -0500, Mario Huelsegge wrote:
 
 
 c_c wrote:
  
After trying both the mplayer-glamo and the mplayer-low versions I can
  say that neither really seems to solve the issue.
Probably more tuning of mplayer is required - or perhaps there is
  another problem that needs fixing. Playing 320x240 (prescaled and rotated)
  with sound seems about ok. Anything bigger creates issues.
The video playing part needs a lot of work - and there aren't too many
  people interested (or so it seems :-)
  
 
 generally i find the mplayer-glamo very promising. without audio, 
 i can play a reencoded 320x240 file with 10% cpu, compared to 
 50% with the normal mplayer. so it is worth a try.
 i guess the pre-built version i use has just some problem with audio.
  if this is solved, performence should be much improved.
 i hope there are some other people interested in tv series on the 
 neo out there :)

You can try updated mplayer with rebased glamo patch. Works for me.


patch for shr/import here:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-July/051593.html
or package request in shr trac
http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/593

I use it for watching few video podcasts sometimes.. but without
touchscreen gestures is still problematic to use (I need pause, seek,
fullscreen toggle, quit, maybe volume control).

I should try intone-video or some other gui instead of using mplayer
from terminal :).

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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread c_c

Hi,

Martin Jansa wrote:
 
 You can try updated mplayer with rebased glamo patch. Works for me.
 
  Do you have a binary taht you can upload to this list? I would like to try
it out.

Martin Jansa wrote:
 
 I should try intone-video or some other gui instead of using mplayer
 from terminal :)
 
  Intone-video has some issues - since the standard mplayer is slow but
supports setting window sizes and location with the -geometry flag.
  The glamo patched one is faster but doesn't support window settings. The
window covers the slipshelf and leaves odd artifacts after exit. So
development is kinda stalled. 
  If I can get a better patched mplayer - one that supports the standard
flags - I'll get intone-video working the way it should.
  Can you help?
  Actually we need a single optimised build of mplayer that has all the
relevant patches (tremor / glamo and some that I might have missed).

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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread Martin Jansa
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 07:48:32AM -0500, c_c wrote:
   Do you have a binary taht you can upload to this list? I would like to try
 it out.

Warning: its built on my modified shr/import based branch, but I guess
it will be compatible with standard shr-unstable. I mean there is not just
modified mplayer, but also Thomas KMS glamo xorg driver and latest xorg stuff 
from git master.

You can download svn snapshot from today here:
http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29644-r12_armv4t.ipk

Or when desktop at home is running then there will updated build every
day, if there is a change in mplayer svn (carefull my up is only 2mb/s).
http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.dev.gta/ipk/armv4t/


 
 Martin Jansa wrote:
  
  I should try intone-video or some other gui instead of using mplayer
  from terminal :)
  
   Intone-video has some issues - since the standard mplayer is slow but
 supports setting window sizes and location with the -geometry flag.
   The glamo patched one is faster but doesn't support window settings. The
 window covers the slipshelf and leaves odd artifacts after exit. So
 development is kinda stalled. 

If that is because patched one was based on older mplayer code than
standard, then this one should work again.

   Can you help?

I can try.

   Actually we need a single optimised build of mplayer that has all the
 relevant patches (tremor / glamo and some that I might have missed).

From my measurement no tremor patch needed see my comment in
http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/437
All 3 implementations of low accuracy integer based Tremor performed quite 
the same (much better than libogg decoder using floating point), so it
doesn't matter which one is used as far as user sets Tremor as preferred
ogg decoder with -ac parameter (when there are both decoders in mplayer
enabled).

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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread Mario Huelsegge


Martin Jansa wrote:
 
 You can download svn snapshot from today here:
 http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29644-r12_armv4t.ipk
 
 Or when desktop at home is running then there will updated build every
 day, if there is a change in mplayer svn (carefull my up is only 2mb/s).
 http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.dev.gta/ipk/armv4t/
 

i tried your binary and it is working with standard shr-unstable, thanks!
audio and video (glamo) are working and in sync, so the problems were
connected 
to the old mplayer code. cpu load is around 30 %.

but unfortunately something changed in the glamo code. the video output now 
has many big artifacts with -av glamo. this was not the case with the old 
mplayer-glamo from 
http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2

btw, seems to be a good community here. i got my neo a week ago and
actually a lot is working already ;)
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RE: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread Russell Dwiggins
|Agreed. Not exactly unusable. I imagine if somebody is constantly
|using only headset (i can actually imagine that, yes ;) ), it works
|ok, one just needs to reestablish connection after resume and that's
|easy to automate. But other than that, well...

Where does one automate that?  I've got a script that I put a .desktop file
to get it started again after suspend, but incoming calls don't start
Bluetooth.

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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-04 Thread c_c

Hi,

Martin Jansa wrote:
 
 http://jama.mk.cvut.cz/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2+svnr29644-r12_armv4t.ipk
 
 Or when desktop at home is running then there will updated build every
 day, if there is a change in mplayer svn (carefull my up is only 2mb/s).
 http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.dev.gta/ipk/armv4t/
 
  Thanks. Will try it and post back.

Martin Jansa wrote:
 
 cut As far as user sets Tremor as preferred ogg decoder with -ac
 parameter.
 
   How low is 'low accuracy'? And why do we need the floating point
implementation if it kill as much as 50% cpu?
   Does this version need the -ac flag?
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[shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-03 Thread Mario Hülsegge
hi,

i just tried the glamo-accelerated mplayer version from 
http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/mplayer-glamo.tar.bz2 and 
followed the instructions on the wiki 
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player).

videos can be played, but 2 problems occured:
- audio works only if i start intone before i watch a video
- if audio is there, mplayer tells me the maschine is too slow and the audio 
gets out of sync with the video.

the second problem is known, but should have been resolved, as it it is said 
here: http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg34795.html

so, is mplayer-glamo still working with latest shr-unstable? has anyone tried 
it recently?

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Re: [shr-u] mplayer with glamo and audio working?

2009-09-03 Thread c_c

Hi,

Mario Hülsegge wrote:
 
 - audio works only if i start intone before i watch a video
 
  Could be because you need to insmod snd-pcm-oss for the audio to work.

Mario Hülsegge wrote:
 
 - if audio is there, mplayer tells me the machine is too slow and the
 audio gets out of sync with the video.
 
  After trying both the mplayer-glamo and the mplayer-low versions I can say
that neither really seems to solve the issue.
  Probably more tuning of mplayer is required - or perhaps there is another
problem that needs fixing. Playing 320x240 (prescaled and rotated) with
sound seems about ok. Anything bigger creates issues.
  The video playing part needs a lot of work - and there aren't too many
people interested (or so it seems :-)

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