Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:40, Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:35:27 +0100 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote: I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen. the image is gone from the url now. i guess some rework is being done. yes, see http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/f7bb35d5b79850da/a68a12ba578fe676 : Packet Video was suppressed in this image, due to codec license issue. But the rootfs was not functional anymore. It is being reworked. I had downloaded this rootfs and had to add libs ins /system/lib/ from previous rootfs : libmedia_jni.so was the one missing preventing it to start. I do not know if others missing also would have prevented it to start since I copied them all back (10 files libopencore*.so, and modules/wlan.ko) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
A new rootfs has been released. http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-open-sourced-tp1359949p1511876.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
anyone knows where is the changelog for this new image? i couldn't find it anywhere. abatrour escribió: A new rootfs has been released. http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Hi, I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Tomas Riveros Schober [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: anyone knows where is the changelog for this new image? i couldn't find it anywhere. abatrour escribió: A new rootfs has been released. http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen. the same for me. the partition get's mounted and some data written on it but the screen stays black... i get ping responses. -- Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:35:27 +0100 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote: I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen. the same for me. the partition get's mounted and some data written on it but the screen stays black... i get ping responses. the image is gone from the url now. i guess some rework is being done. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Martin Vyšný wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 For those that don't read the kernel ML, there are new kernel/rootfs images in the Sean's space. They fix the glamo page-flip issue (only?) [1], [2]: - http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ [1] http://n2.nabble.com/status-and-plans-tp1479560p1479560.html [2] http://n2.nabble.com/-PATCH--Add-page-flipping-support-to-glamo-tp1479826p1479826.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Wed, November 5, 2008 08:17, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: abatrour wrote: OMG it works! I was having the same problem with a black screen after the white flash. I tried formatting the sd card as ext3 and it didn't work. But it worked after i made 2 partitions, both ext3. i am using the latest uboot on my gta2v5 As I tried- * Must have a SD card inside the FR during Android boot, or it will just keep black (with backlight on). * The SD card format also required 2 partitions (first primary partition vfat/ext3 seems both work, second primary using ext3). My current Android setting is using the default 512 MB SD card comes with FreeRunner, 8MB for vfat, rest is using ext3. Advice in OM community is to use ext2 on SD cards. Can Android cope with this? Also, can it cope with only one partition? Can it Android be more flexible regarding this and print messages when one of the (implicit) requirements is not being met? Tony Tu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Pander wrote: On Wed, November 5, 2008 08:17, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: abatrour wrote: OMG it works! I was having the same problem with a black screen after the white flash. I tried formatting the sd card as ext3 and it didn't work. But it worked after i made 2 partitions, both ext3. i am using the latest uboot on my gta2v5 As I tried- * Must have a SD card inside the FR during Android boot, or it will just keep black (with backlight on). * The SD card format also required 2 partitions (first primary partition vfat/ext3 seems both work, second primary using ext3). My current Android setting is using the default 512 MB SD card comes with FreeRunner, 8MB for vfat, rest is using ext3. Advice in OM community is to use ext2 on SD cards. Can Android cope with this? Also, can it cope with only one partition? The /init.rc in the android image calls: mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data nosuid nodev So you will need ext3 on that partition, or you will need to edit that line in init.rc. The advice to use ext2 is based on deep seated but outdated fears about the limited write life of flash devices. I say this having used ext3 for rootfs on CF cards for several years with no ill effects. Can it Android be more flexible regarding this and print messages when one of the (implicit) requirements is not being met? Tony Tu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- SolutionTrax Limited, Registered in England Wales, Trading as TrueBox Registered office: Silbury Court, 420 Silbury Boulevard, Milton Keynes, MK9 2AF, UK Company Number: 4494022 VAT Registration Number: 825 1952 26 Telephone: +44 (0)845 508 3397 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] Re: Android open sourced
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:35:59 + Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AJ) wrote: Advice in OM community is to use ext2 on SD cards. Can Android cope with this? Also, can it cope with only one partition? The /init.rc in the android image calls: mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data nosuid nodev So you will need ext3 on that partition, or you will need to edit that line in init.rc. The advice to use ext2 is based on deep seated but outdated fears about the limited write life of flash devices. I say this having used ext3 for rootfs on CF cards for several years with no ill effects. how do you change/see this, can you ssh into android (i can only ping it) or did you mount and alter the image before uploading? -- Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 10:35 +, Alastair Johnson wrote: Pander wrote: On Wed, November 5, 2008 08:17, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: ... Advice in OM community is to use ext2 on SD cards. Can Android cope with this? Also, can it cope with only one partition? The /init.rc in the android image calls: mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data nosuid nodev So you will need ext3 on that partition, or you will need to edit that line in init.rc. The advice to use ext2 is based on deep seated but outdated fears about the limited write life of flash devices. I say this having used ext3 for rootfs on CF cards for several years with no ill effects. ... and in my experience, ext2 is even more fragile than vfat (had both on the same card) and collects errors. Just moved them to ext3 an hour ago to see if that improves matters (sandisk 8G) BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Are you running on Freerunner? Ate least the kernel is up. NMAP give me: SCRIPT ENGINE: Initiating script scanning. Host openmoko (192.168.0.202) appears to be up ... good. Interesting ports on openmoko (192.168.0.202): Not shown: 999 closed ports PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION /tcp open freeciv? MAC Address: 62:29:80:2A:1F:94 (Unknown) Device type: general purpose Running: Linux 2.6.X OS details: Linux 2.6.13 - 2.6.20 Uptime guess: 0.015 days (since Tue Nov 4 11:10:43 2008) Network Distance: 1 hop TCP Sequence Prediction: Difficulty=201 (Good luck!) IP ID Sequence Generation: All zeros -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 11:23, Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:16, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here, but I can ping 192.168.0.202. It worked for me ! I can reach main menu, launch apps... note that here I started without SIM card... will try with it... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Cédric Berger wrote: my u-boot is about 3 weeks old as I can remember... ok, that may be the (a) difference Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:59, Hire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you get a black screen when FR boots? How much time gets fr to boot? I get a black screen, but not for long. Then there is a booting screen with android and two robots... I have no numbers, but looks like total boot time is not longer than with other distros. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
I have no numbers, but looks like total boot time is not longer than with other distros. on my FR it boots in 70 seconds ca. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Could you send us your u-boot version? Thanks, -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 12:00, Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:55, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: black screen, with and without SIM card. Cedrid, what did you do to get it going? This is a FR, first batch. Just flashed downloaded kernel to NAND (dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-android), then rootfs (dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D androidfs.jffs2) my u-boot is about 3 weeks old as I can remember... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. (And I am updating to latest now) Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)
Hello, Maybe it is worth to split away this 'open sourced' Android to its own mailing list to not flood the users of a free software project with this Google stuff? Just my RFC matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)
What Android is for you? A closed software? -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 12:50, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, Maybe it is worth to split away this 'open sourced' Android to its own mailing list to not flood the users of a free software project with this Google stuff? Just my RFC matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Could someone list all the relevant URLs here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions#Images Thanks On Tue, November 4, 2008 14:58, Thomas Bertani wrote: I got it working too. Black screen but if you wait 2 minutes it runs 2008/11/4 Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED]: black screen, with and without SIM card. Cedrid, what did you do to get it going? This is a FR, first batch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. Hey Cédric, Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us? (please :P) Cheers, Benedikt (And I am updating to latest now) Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. (And I am updating to latest now) Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black screen. Still no luck here :( from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/ dfu-util 04-Nov-2008 01:46 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 from http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ androidfs.jffs2 04-Nov-2008 12:05 uImage-android 04-Nov-2008 12:13 tested with all uSD and sim combination possible please try to upload this working u-boot image anywhere let me know if you need a place. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:08, Benedikt Bär [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. Hey Cédric, Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us? (please :P) mmm... not sure were it can be... But I now have flashed latest from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin (it still shows 23 sept. on uboot menu) It worked ok too... could boot at least twice. ... but after playing a while, my phone shut off suddenly (I had just selected select network automatically for GSM, searching was running...). And now I cannot boot successfully anymore (sometimes it shuts down quite early during boot, sometimes just after android booting screen). Just like if there was not enough battery... I was running connected to usb (but on windows, not recognized, so probably 100mA max). Though booting into qtextended I can see that battery is about 50% (and trying to boot without SIM gave same result now, shut down soon after android booting screen) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
2008/11/4 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:08, Benedikt Bär [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. Hey Cédric, Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us? (please :P) mmm... not sure were it can be... But I now have flashed latest from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin (it still shows 23 sept. on uboot menu) It worked ok too... could boot at least twice. ... but after playing a while, my phone shut off suddenly (I had just selected select network automatically for GSM, searching was running...). And now I cannot boot successfully anymore (sometimes it shuts down quite early during boot, sometimes just after android booting screen). Just like if there was not enough battery... I was running connected to usb (but on windows, not recognized, so probably 100mA max). Though booting into qtextended I can see that battery is about 50% (and trying to boot without SIM gave same result now, shut down soon after android booting screen) The problem should be in the uSd card, some guys in the IRC successfully boot android with the default u-boot from may 08, and all only can do that with the usd card inserted. One of them have this partitions on a 4gb card: /dev/sdb1 1 2457832b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb2 246 124880 3988320 83 Linux Thanks to KaZeR. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:19 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:08, Benedikt Bär [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. Hey Cédric, Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us? (please :P) mmm... not sure were it can be... But I now have flashed latest from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin (it still shows 23 sept. on uboot menu) It worked ok too... could boot at least twice. Hmm, I flashed exact the same uboot file, and I get Nov 4 in the u-boot screen. Maybe you have flashed it to either NAND or NOR and you were booting from the other... In that case, you could use dfu-util to download this uboot version :) Cheers, Benedikt ... but after playing a while, my phone shut off suddenly (I had just selected select network automatically for GSM, searching was running...). And now I cannot boot successfully anymore (sometimes it shuts down quite early during boot, sometimes just after android booting screen). Just like if there was not enough battery... I was running connected to usb (but on windows, not recognized, so probably 100mA max). Though booting into qtextended I can see that battery is about 50% (and trying to boot without SIM gave same result now, shut down soon after android booting screen) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 14:50 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:39, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running on Freerunner? yes. One from the first production batchs. just flashed it via dfu-util (from windows). I have a 8gb SD card inserted (and detected by android) It looks not so bad ! I could phone my voicemail (sound level too low though). But I cannot set up USB networking (here I am under windows and it detects ethernet gadget but cannot install driver), though it worked with other distros. So I cannot try now any online stuff... I tried detecting wifi network (anyway I have only encrypted network at reach for now), but it looks like it cannot dectect any : Unable to scan for networks. Hi Cédric, Can you please check if there is a way to install an APK application to Android running on FR? Is there some kind of an Installer? It seems that the phone is completely offline (no wifi, no usb connection)... can the Installer install APK located on a SD card? Can you use adb? Sorry to spam you with so much questions :) Sincerely, Martin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
David Samblas a écrit : El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. (And I am updating to latest now) Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black screen. Still no luck here :( from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/ dfu-util 04-Nov-2008 01:46 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 from http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ androidfs.jffs2 04-Nov-2008 12:05 uImage-android 04-Nov-2008 12:13 tested with all uSD and sim combination possible please try to upload this working u-boot image anywhere let me know if you need a place. Works (boot) here : uboot 1.3.2-moko12 may 9 2008 10:28:48 Flashed like any other distro, With a 4Gb usd card : /dev/sdb1 1 2457832b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb2 246 124880 3988320 83 Linux I booted with SD (worked) then without SD (failed) then with SD and a new SIM (works). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:28 +, Valerio Valerio wrote: 2008/11/4 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:08, Benedikt Bär [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. Hey Cédric, Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us? (please :P) mmm... not sure were it can be... But I now have flashed latest from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin (it still shows 23 sept. on uboot menu) It worked ok too... could boot at least twice. ... but after playing a while, my phone shut off suddenly (I had just selected select network automatically for GSM, searching was running...). And now I cannot boot successfully anymore (sometimes it shuts down quite early during boot, sometimes just after android booting screen). Just like if there was not enough battery... I was running connected to usb (but on windows, not recognized, so probably 100mA max). Though booting into qtextended I can see that battery is about 50% (and trying to boot without SIM gave same result now, shut down soon after android booting screen) The problem should be in the uSd card, some guys in the IRC successfully boot android with the default u-boot from may 08, and all only can do that with the usd card inserted. One of them have this partitions on a 4gb card: /dev/sdb1 1 2457832b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb2 246 124880 3988320 83 Linux Hmm... I do have a 2GB uSD card inserted, which should have about the same layout, only with different sizes... Cheers, Benedikt Thanks to KaZeR. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:28, Valerio Valerio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem should be in the uSd card, some guys in the IRC successfully boot android with the default u-boot from may 08, and all only can do that with the usd card inserted. One of them have this partitions on a 4gb card: /dev/sdb1 1 2457832b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb2 246 124880 3988320 83 Linux Thanks to KaZeR. Yes if I try without SD card, I stay with a black screen (but not shut off, backlight is on). And with SD card, I can boot (but, now, just to get the immediate shutting down) My SD card is 8Gb : 4gb FAT with data and some uImage.bin, 1gb ext3, 512 ext3... and others ext3 partitions (can't remember :-p ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)
At least it's not as open as it could be. (Of course this is Google's software and their decision, but I don't think Android is as open as in free software.) Another suggestion: treat Android like every other distro - prefix threads with [android] and we can filter ourselves. -Marcel Am Tuesday 04 November 2008 15:54:08 schrieb Denis Galvão: What Android is for you? A closed software? -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 12:50, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, Maybe it is worth to split away this 'open sourced' Android to its own mailing list to not flood the users of a free software project with this Google stuff? Just my RFC matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
It works fine on my FR too, although I faced a problem that might have to do with why it's not working sometimes: when I first started Android, it detected that my battery was empty (I'm pretty sure it's not) and immediately shut down, I tried connecting it to the charger and starting it again, and it worked. A couple of things to note though: 1. As mentioned previously, the call volume is too low. 2. Even with the FR charging, it continued to detect the battery level at 0%, so once I disconnected the charger, the FR shut down immediately. 3. I'm not sure if Android has a suspend capability, but looking through the settings didn't yield anything, so any feedback regarding this matter would be highly appreciated. This is a first release, and problems with (or lack of) features of less importance such as Wifi, and GPS, are naturally expected. But so far, I think I like the platform as a whole :-) Thank you Sean, great work... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-open-sourced-tp1359949p1455379.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K what about the lowlevel? gta02v5_and_up-lowlevel.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 308 Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
KaZeR wrote: David Samblas a écrit : El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. (And I am updating to latest now) Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black screen. Still no luck here :( from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/ dfu-util 04-Nov-2008 01:46 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 from http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ androidfs.jffs2 04-Nov-2008 12:05 uImage-android 04-Nov-2008 12:13 tested with all uSD and sim combination possible please try to upload this working u-boot image anywhere let me know if you need a place. Works (boot) here : uboot 1.3.2-moko12 may 9 2008 10:28:48 Flashed like any other distro, With a 4Gb usd card : /dev/sdb1 1 2457832b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb2 246 124880 3988320 83 Linux I booted with SD (worked) then without SD (failed) then with SD and a new SIM (works). You will need an ext3 partition on mmcblk0p2 which will get a load of stuff written to it. I just had to clean the bits it wrote out of my FSO rootfs that was on that partition :-( I've changed it to mmcblk0p3 in /init.rc on mine now. If it won't boot any more at some point it seems to be because of something stored in this partition. Wipe out that data and it should boot again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Hello android folks :) Could you please prefix your mails with [android] to enable others to filter android related mails? Thank you, Marcel Am Tuesday 04 November 2008 17:03:05 schrieb Quasar: It works fine on my FR too, although I faced a problem that might have to do with why it's not working sometimes: when I first started Android, it detected that my battery was empty (I'm pretty sure it's not) and immediately shut down, I tried connecting it to the charger and starting it again, and it worked. A couple of things to note though: 1. As mentioned previously, the call volume is too low. 2. Even with the FR charging, it continued to detect the battery level at 0%, so once I disconnected the charger, the FR shut down immediately. 3. I'm not sure if Android has a suspend capability, but looking through the settings didn't yield anything, so any feedback regarding this matter would be highly appreciated. This is a first release, and problems with (or lack of) features of less importance such as Wifi, and GPS, are naturally expected. But so far, I think I like the platform as a whole :-) Thank you Sean, great work... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:16, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here, but I can ping 192.168.0.202. It worked for me ! I can reach main menu, launch apps... note that here I started without SIM card... will try with it... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android]Android open sourced
confirmed was the uSD without ext3 partition issue Now I see the two robots on boot. first boot just after I put the pin code it sudenly shuttdown but looks cool thath red leed on the power button :) second boot it doen't recongnice my pin code twice and suddenly shutdown again well is first image :) at least it boots :) Regards David Samblas -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Android open sourced
I've flashed the android rootfs and uImage and I'm unable to get a boot. I'm using the daily build u-boot and I've tried with 8GB uSD ultra ii and regular. Both result in a blank screen after the white flash. KaZeR wrote: David Samblas a écrit : El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. (And I am updating to latest now) Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black screen. Still no luck here :( from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/ dfu-util 04-Nov-2008 01:46 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 from http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ androidfs.jffs2 04-Nov-2008 12:05 uImage-android 04-Nov-2008 12:13 tested with all uSD and sim combination possible please try to upload this working u-boot image anywhere let me know if you need a place. Works (boot) here : uboot 1.3.2-moko12 may 9 2008 10:28:48 Flashed like any other distro, With a 4Gb usd card : /dev/sdb1 1 2457832b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb2 246 124880 3988320 83 Linux I booted with SD (worked) then without SD (failed) then with SD and a new SIM (works). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android]Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:09 PM, David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: confirmed was the uSD without ext3 partition issue Now I see the two robots on boot. first boot just after I put the pin code it sudenly shuttdown Try booting connected to wall charger ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)
Am Tuesday 04 November 2008 17:17:28 schrieb Jim Ancona: Marcel wrote: At least it's not as open as it could be. (Of course this is Google's software and their decision, but I don't think Android is as open as in free software.) By what definition of free software does Android not qualify? Arr, I should have thought a minute more about what I was writing. I mean Google's backdoors to ban unwanted software without asking the user about it and such. Dunno about GPLv3, but this does not interfere with the freedom of the software... btw, one could remove that feature. :X So in the end it's my definition of free software that it does not comply with. :) Another suggestion: treat Android like every other distro - prefix threads with [android] and we can filter ourselves. Agree. In action. -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)
2008/11/4 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Maybe it is worth to split away this 'open sourced' Android to its own mailing list to not flood the users of a free software project with this Google stuff? Just my personal view... I disagree. I'm not much interested in the Android option, but I'd still prefer if the emails about it were on this list, so I can keep half an eye on them as they flow by. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android]Android open sourced
What you did with the uSD? Just created an ext3 partition? Nothing more? -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 14:39, David Samblas wrote: confirmed was the uSD without ext3 partition issue Now I see the two robots on boot. first boot just after I put the pin code it sudenly shuttdown but looks cool thath red leed on the power button :) second boot it doen't recongnice my pin code twice and suddenly shutdown again well is first image :) at least it boots :) Regards David Samblas -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android]Android open sourced
Weird guys because I get 100% battery level However this is a beta release and we see a stable release very soon :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-open-sourced-tp1359949p1455732.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
I got it working too. Black screen but if you wait 2 minutes it runs 2008/11/4 Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED]: black screen, with and without SIM card. Cedrid, what did you do to get it going? This is a FR, first batch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Flashing... -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 10:33, Cédric Berger wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Same here, but I can ping 192.168.0.202. -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 10:57, David Samblas wrote: El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 04:46 -0800, Hire escribió: Cédric Berger wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community On a FR doesn't work, I see only a black screen. After more than 6 mins I can confirm that only a black screen appears :( I know google was minimalistic but this is al little bit exagerated :), just kidding :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android]Android open sourced
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 14:48 -0200, Denis Galvão escribió: What you did with the uSD? Just created an ext3 partition? Nothing more? Yes so simply that hurts :) -- Denis Galvão Ast eriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 14:39, David Samblas wrote: confirmed was the uSD without ext3 partition issue Now I see the two robots on boot. first boot just after I put the pin code it sudenly shuttdown but looks cool thath red leed on the power button :) second boot it doen't recongnice my pin code twice and suddenly shutdown again well is first image :) at least it boots :) Regards David Samblas -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 04:46 -0800, Hire escribió: Cédric Berger wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community On a FR doesn't work, I see only a black screen. After more than 6 mins I can confirm that only a black screen appears :( I know google was minimalistic but this is al little bit exagerated :), just kidding :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:39, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running on Freerunner? yes. One from the first production batchs. just flashed it via dfu-util (from windows). I have a 8gb SD card inserted (and detected by android) It looks not so bad ! I could phone my voicemail (sound level too low though). But I cannot set up USB networking (here I am under windows and it detects ethernet gadget but cannot install driver), though it worked with other distros. So I cannot try now any online stuff... I tried detecting wifi network (anyway I have only encrypted network at reach for now), but it looks like it cannot dectect any : Unable to scan for networks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:55, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: black screen, with and without SIM card. Cedrid, what did you do to get it going? This is a FR, first batch. Just flashed downloaded kernel to NAND (dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-android), then rootfs (dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D androidfs.jffs2) my u-boot is about 3 weeks old as I can remember... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)
+1 for prefixing with [android] --- treat it like any other distro... On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 2008/11/4 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Maybe it is worth to split away this 'open sourced' Android to its own mailing list to not flood the users of a free software project with this Google stuff? Just my personal view... I disagree. I'm not much interested in the Android option, but I'd still prefer if the emails about it were on this list, so I can keep half an eye on them as they flow by. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 13:33 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 NAND on fire! I'm already flashing right now :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Hello list, Mine u-boot is also the latest gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K and I have got black screen to... --- An unlucky user with Bug#1841 2008/11/4 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. (And I am updating to latest now) Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)
Marcel wrote: At least it's not as open as it could be. (Of course this is Google's software and their decision, but I don't think Android is as open as in free software.) By what definition of free software does Android not qualify? Another suggestion: treat Android like every other distro - prefix threads with [android] and we can filter ourselves. Agree. Jim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Cédric Berger wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community On a FR doesn't work, I see only a black screen. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-open-sourced-tp1359949p1454236.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:16, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here, but I can ping 192.168.0.202. It worked for me ! I can reach main menu, launch apps... note that here I started without SIM card... will try with it... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Do you get a black screen when FR boots? How much time gets fr to boot? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-open-sourced-tp1359949p1454554.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 Seeing as the rootfs image is only 32 MB, what are its current features? What works and has been tested? Some screenshots would be nice. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
black screen, with and without SIM card. Cedrid, what did you do to get it going? This is a FR, first batch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:19, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And now I cannot boot successfully anymore (sometimes it shuts down quite early during boot, sometimes just after android booting screen). Just like if there was not enough battery... I was running connected to usb (but on windows, not recognized, so probably 100mA max). Though booting into qtextended I can see that battery is about 50% (and trying to boot without SIM gave same result now, shut down soon after android booting screen) Maybe Android believe there not enough battery ? I got it charged to 62%, then booted again it got to android were it immediatly showed a popup shutting down.. and shut down. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
2008/11/4 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:28, Valerio Valerio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem should be in the uSd card, some guys in the IRC successfully boot android with the default u-boot from may 08, and all only can do that with the usd card inserted. One of them have this partitions on a 4gb card: /dev/sdb1 1 2457832b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb2 246 124880 3988320 83 Linux Thanks to KaZeR. Yes if I try without SD card, I stay with a black screen (but not shut off, backlight is on). And with SD card, I can boot (but, now, just to get the immediate shutting down) My SD card is 8Gb : 4gb FAT with data and some uImage.bin, 1gb ext3, 512 ext3... and others ext3 partitions (can't remember :-p ) It seems that the secret is a SD card with a ext3 partition :) Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
OMG it works! I was having the same problem with a black screen after the white flash. I tried formatting the sd card as ext3 and it didn't work. But it worked after i made 2 partitions, both ext3. i am using the latest uboot on my gta2v5 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-open-sourced-tp1359949p1457673.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
abatrour wrote: OMG it works! I was having the same problem with a black screen after the white flash. I tried formatting the sd card as ext3 and it didn't work. But it worked after i made 2 partitions, both ext3. i am using the latest uboot on my gta2v5 As I tried- * Must have a SD card inside the FR during Android boot, or it will just keep black (with backlight on). * The SD card format also required 2 partitions (first primary partition vfat/ext3 seems both work, second primary using ext3). My current Android setting is using the default 512 MB SD card comes with FreeRunner, 8MB for vfat, rest is using ext3. Tony Tu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) where are the image's download link? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:58:58 +0100 Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:55 -0400, Jim Ancona wrote: Peter Neubauer wrote: Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! Some more links: Ben Leslie's blog: http://benno.id.au/blog/ Google's android-porting mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting Jim Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 vyzivus Is the koolu version any different or not? I'm looking at the screens on http://koolu.com/ and it seems cool ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 17:42 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:58:58 +0100 Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:55 -0400, Jim Ancona wrote: Peter Neubauer wrote: Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! Some more links: Ben Leslie's blog: http://benno.id.au/blog/ Google's android-porting mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting Jim Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 vyzivus Is the koolu version any different or not? I'm looking at the screens on http://koolu.com/ and it seems cool ... Franky I don't know, I haven't seen it yet. I'm waiting for somebody to build the images :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 17:42 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke escribió: On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:58:58 +0100 Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:55 -0400, Jim Ancona wrote: Peter Neubauer wrote: Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! Some more links: Ben Leslie's blog: http://benno.id.au/blog/ Google's android-porting mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting Jim Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 vyzivus Is the koolu version any different or not? I'm looking at the screens on http://koolu.com/ and it seems cool ... Franky Waiting for that image to be published too :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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IIUC it doesn't use X11. But can it run in one virtual console while X11 runs in another? Stefan PS: Waiting for it to appear in Debian. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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What about the input method? Does it have a virtual keyboard of some kind? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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not yet El lun, 03-11-2008 a las 08:35 +0100, Leonti Bielski escribió: What about the input method? Does it have a virtual keyboard of some kind? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi there, is there any progress on the porting of Android to the FR yet? Are updates posted to this list, since it seems pretty quite around the port? Cheers /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Jan Prinsloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHO :) Let the games begin! On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Sign up to Koolu's forum [1] and see what's going on there. Cfriedt also has a spreadsheet of progress that seems to have been updated frequently [2]. Last time I check there were a few to go but now, not so much. See also [3]. Nick 1. http://forum.koolu.org/ 2. http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pzDEXnU19gkeTjpD28t-7fw 3. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android See also: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1361683 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, is there any progress on the porting of Android to the FR yet? Are updates posted to this list, since it seems pretty quite around the port? Cheers /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Jan Prinsloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHO :) Let the games begin! On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM, KaZeR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Lippmann a écrit : Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb Lorn Potter: Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected. Oh I know it will get better, I was just disappointed it was less stable than the previous version. We all were. The truth is, 4.4.1 was pushed out before it was ready. But it couldn't be helped. Wouldn't it be great to release an intermediate version soon, in which the most severe UI-bugs are fixed (like the finger-scrolling/selection-Bug or the way-to-sensitive-keyboard where it's almost impossible to switch to special characters)? I'm quite sure it's just a matter of settings as it worked in the former version. or the bouncing calypso and the echo fix.. It would be really nice. See Lorn J.Potter's mail in support. Qtextended 4.4.2 may be out tomorrow and he will try to release Neo images along with it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:34 AM, nick d. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sign up to Koolu's forum [1] and see what's going on there. Cfriedt also has a spreadsheet of progress that seems to have been updated frequently [2]. Last time I check there were a few to go but now, not so much. See also [3]. Nick 1. http://forum.koolu.org/ 2. http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pzDEXnU19gkeTjpD28t-7fw 3. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android See also: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1361683 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, is there any progress on the porting of Android to the FR yet? Are updates posted to this list, since it seems pretty quite around the port? Cheers /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Jan Prinsloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHO :) Let the games begin! On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Peter Neubauer wrote: Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! Some more links: Ben Leslie's blog: http://benno.id.au/blog/ Google's android-porting mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting Jim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb Lorn Potter: Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected. Oh I know it will get better, I was just disappointed it was less stable than the previous version. We all were. The truth is, 4.4.1 was pushed out before it was ready. But it couldn't be helped. Wouldn't it be great to release an intermediate version soon, in which the most severe UI-bugs are fixed (like the finger-scrolling/selection-Bug or the way-to-sensitive-keyboard where it's almost impossible to switch to special characters)? I'm quite sure it's just a matter of settings as it worked in the former version. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wednesday 22 Oct 2008 10:16:55 pm Andy Selby wrote: Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. 4.3 is usable as a daily phone for me (YMMV),rock solid suspend and resume, no dialer issues. 4.4.1 is a bit unstable for daily use. I have been on with 4.3 for almost a day now. The moment i try to make a call it crashes. I am able to receive calls fine. I did have to change the gsmhandset.state file to prevent the echo. 4.4.1 never really crashed but has bugs like my inability to save a number to the contacts list from the call logs. Is that part of the contacts application? The contacts application is much more usable too with the alphabets on the right. 4.4 also has the inertial scrolling improvement which makes it really easy to browse contacts but its buggy with the touchscreen that registers far too many accidental clicks while scrolling. I am now tending towards 4.4 i really hope there is an update soon that fixes the obvious bugs. Anything expected soon? -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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At last maybe we will get a stable, usable O/S for the Neo (which I have shelved until such a thing exists). I was using Qt but QtExtended was a step backwards in stability. I am very happy to see Android available for development, I may un-shelve my Neo blow off the dust and help port it! Yup. Hooray if we get it working on Freerunner. Finally something to run on Freerunner that might, actually .. work .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Citando Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. I've been using ASU (OM2008.9) since the beginning as my daily and only phone for months now, without great problems. It stinks for SMS texting, and it is a PITA to find a contact on the list (both of these are bad designs of Qtopia), but otherwise it does the job well. The only big problem is a denial-of-service that happens because os resume problems... sometimes I get an SMS or some other event that wakes up the phone, and if I don't touch the screen, it stays awake until the battery dies. This is why sometimes I wake up to a dead phone, even though I went to bed leaving it almost fully charged. :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wednesday 22 Oct 2008 4:38:31 am Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected. Oh I know it will get better, I was just disappointed it was less stable than the previous version. We all were. The truth is, 4.4.1 was pushed out before it was ready. But it couldn't be helped. Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. Join the club. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Nishit Dave wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. Join the club. FWIW, I've been running 4.3 as my only cellphone for several weeks now. I've got the bug #1024 re-registration problem, which is annoying, but I can still make and receive calls. I've only gotten into a really funky state once or twice - due, I think, to switching between booting 4.3 and other distros (FSO). It's been pretty stable since I ran out of time to mess with it :) --pj ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 23:21, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was on IRC and someone said they had already ported the kernel, and was working on a forum, just FYI. We should all coordinate so there are not 10 different porting efforts :) Also see thread on kernel list where Sean McNeil has already worked one it : http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1361683 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! ;-) patches are on their way according to this: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-October/005966.html Hooray to the FLOSS. Kind regards, -- Lech Karol Pawłaszek ike You will never see me fall from grace [KoRn] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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According to http://koolu.com/ Koolu Beta port of Android for Freerunner will be available to download for existing Freerunner owners and installed on phones for sale in November 2008. And they have been working at it for months. -- Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:43:00PM -0600, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: people who I do not have their number memorized and it is almost impossible to text via finger on 200x.x. I would love to see a good keyboard, reliable SMS and phone calls, at that point I'll be more than satisfied with my investment, right now I'm happy but feel that things have a long way to go. After understanding the predictiveness and creating a portuguese dictionary, I haven't ever written an SMS *ever*since* with a stylus, just the finger... Rui -- Hail Eris, Hack GNU/Linux! Today is Setting Orange, the 3rd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:43:00PM -0600, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: people who I do not have their number memorized and it is almost impossible to text via finger on 200x.x. I would love to see a good keyboard, reliable SMS and phone calls, at that point I'll be more than satisfied with my investment, right now I'm happy but feel that things have a long way to go. After understanding the predictiveness and creating a portuguese dictionary, I haven't ever written an SMS *ever*since* with a stylus, just the finger... Rui I understand the predictive keyboard and have it mastered with a stylus but it is still insane, sadly when it comes to SMS I'd say that IMO the iPhone wins, I'd be happier wit a number pad like the dialer that just did T9 input frankly. Also to find a contact since the scrolling never works with the use of a finger I have to whip out my stylus to scroll down to who I want to call, if I don't have their # memorized. I love my FreeRunner don't get me wrong but those two things drive me up a wall so quickly that on occasion if I know it's going to be a day filled with lots of SMSing I have been known to grab my old Samsung T409 cause I can text so much faster on it, but that's rare cause I much prefer using my OM. -Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On 21 Oct 2008, at 19:52, Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! At last maybe we will get a stable, usable O/S for the Neo (which I have shelved until such a thing exists). I was using Qt but QtExtended was a step backwards in stability. I am very happy to see Android available for development, I may un-shelve my Neo blow off the dust and help port it! It's always charming to encounter an optimist. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wednesday 22 Oct 2008 4:38:31 am Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected. Oh I know it will get better, I was just disappointed it was less stable than the previous version. We all were. The truth is, 4.4.1 was pushed out before it was ready. But it couldn't be helped. Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. which I had blown away to try 4.4.1 I couldn't really use 4.4.1 of QtEtended as it seemed to hang all the time as well as other issues which I'm sure you are aware of. (Scrolling through lists usually thinks you are selecting something you don't want etc). I'll continue to try the new versions of 4.4 as they come out, but in the meantime playing with Android seems like a good use of my time ;) I'll use whichever one ends up being a usable phone soonest. -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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http://forum.koolu.org/ Register to get a patchset and a kernel pacthed for FR -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-open-sourced-tp1359949p1364565.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hire wrote: http://forum.koolu.org/ Register to get a patchset and a kernel pacthed for FR Downloading the stuff now. Although I am still trying to find out what to do with the patch-set ;-) So pointers are appreciated! Paul -- Saying nothing... sometimes says the most. -Emily Dickinson http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. 4.3 is usable as a daily phone for me (YMMV),rock solid suspend and resume, no dialer issues. 4.4.1 is a bit unstable for daily use. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/10/22 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 03:23:56PM -0700, Jim Morris wrote: No magic, I suspect the kernel will be the same, and have potentially the same bugs, however I think the apps will be more stable. Exactly! this is a tipical scenario showing why openmoko inc. should spend the big part of it's resources on the kernel. All the above, 2008.x, fso, qtopia, and now android will depend on it. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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my 2 cents: if the porting of android will need the intervention of the low level developers this shouldn't be done. the kernel coders need all the time they need to understand and optimize the low level code. if meanwhile there are other developers who feel they can handle the port it could be just another option, and would be wrong not to try it.. On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/22 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 03:23:56PM -0700, Jim Morris wrote: No magic, I suspect the kernel will be the same, and have potentially the same bugs, however I think the apps will be more stable. Exactly! this is a tipical scenario showing why openmoko inc. should spend the big part of it's resources on the kernel. All the above, 2008.x, fso, qtopia, and now android will depend on it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Now that would be cool... Paul -- Time's fun when you're having flies. -Kermit the Frog http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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WHO :) Let the games begin! On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Hey... it says open-source (you can read the code) not free software (you can do whatever you want)... http://code.google.com/android/terms.html tells : 3.1 Subject to the terms of this License Agreement, Google grants you a limited, worldwide, royalty-free, non- assignable and non-exclusive license to use the SDK solely to develop applications to run on the Android platform. 3.2 (...) 3.3 Except to the extent required by applicable third party licenses, you may not copy (except for backup purposes), modify, adapt, redistribute, decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, or create derivative works of the SDK or any part of the SDK. and others, and others and others... restrictions... And for the code itself... http://source.android.com/license/individual-contributor-license---android-open-source-project You have to grant your copyright to Google... I don't want to work non-paid for Google. But please do ! ;) Regards, OdyX -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Quoting a mail we received sometime ago from Koolu Koolu presently supplies other distributors globally for Openmoko Freerunners. Due to this volume we can provide lower prices and value add. In November 2008 we start shipping Freerunner with Android pre installed and supported as an option Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 17:48, Didier Raboud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Hey... it says open-source (you can read the code) not free software (you can do whatever you want)... http://code.google.com/android/terms.html tells : 3.1 Subject to the terms of this License Agreement, Google grants you a limited, worldwide, royalty-free, non- assignable and non-exclusive license to use the SDK solely to develop applications to run on the Android platform. 3.2 (...) 3.3 Except to the extent required by applicable third party licenses, you may not copy (except for backup purposes), modify, adapt, redistribute, decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, or create derivative works of the SDK or any part of the SDK. and others, and others and others... restrictions... And for the code itself... http://source.android.com/license/individual-contributor-license---android-open-source-project You have to grant your copyright to Google... I don't want to work non-paid for Google. But please do ! ;) I have not read all yet but Android Open Source Project license The preferred license for the Android Open Source Project is Apache 2.0. Apache 2.0 is a commercial and open source friendly open source license. The majority of the Android platform is licensed under the Apache 2.0 license. While the project will strive to adhere to the preferred license, there may be exceptions which will be handled on a case-by-case basis. For example, the Linux kernel patches are under the GPLv2 license with system exceptions, which can be found on kernel.org . So I guess it is open enough for you to modify it as you want. Probably it is if you want not to fork it that you must adhere to some google specific terms... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Hey... it says open-source (you can read the code) not free software (you can do whatever you want)... I don't know why when some people read open-source they understand open to read but not open to modify. Android is released under Apache License version 2, which is considered free software by the FSF, and even compatible with GPLv3 [1]. And for the code itself... http://source.android.com/license/individual-contributor-license---android-open-source-project You have to grant your copyright to Google... I don't want to work non-paid for Google. But please do ! ;) I think that is for contributors, that is, if you want your changes to be merged into Google's Android, you must grant your copyright to Google. This clause let Google do relicensing, and it is not uncommon on other free software projects, such as the GNU project. [1] http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/index_html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
