Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-07-05 Thread Paul Fertser
clemens kirchgatterer clem...@1541.org writes: I have the same problem. Can you pls report if replacing the chip actually fixes the moko? Replacing pcf50633? I'm not sure anyone has ever tried that, it's BGA iirc. Have you investigated other options? -- Be free, use free

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-07-05 Thread Ronald Tallent
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 15:05 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Replacing pcf50633? I'm not sure anyone has ever tried that, it's BGA iirc. Have you investigated other options? The purpose of this thread was kind of to discover and explore those other options if there are any. I'm out of my league here.

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-07-05 Thread Paul Fertser
Ronald Tallent r...@tallent.ws writes: On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 15:05 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Replacing pcf50633? I'm not sure anyone has ever tried that, it's BGA iirc. Have you investigated other options? The purpose of this thread was kind of to discover and explore those other options if

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-07-04 Thread clemens kirchgatterer
I have the same problem. Can you pls report if replacing the chip actually fixes the moko? thx, clemens On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 06:46, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Ronald Tallent r...@tallent.ws writes: So, there's no way to fix this thing? If I need to take it to an

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-07-01 Thread Ronald Tallent
So, there's no way to fix this thing? If I need to take it to an electronics repair shop to get it fixed I can, just need to know what part(s) will need to be repaired/replaced. Anyone know were I can get hold of schematics for the mainboard? If it's a simple repair proceedure I might be able to

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-07-01 Thread Chuck Norris
01.07.2011 17:13, Ronald Tallent пишет: So, there's no way to fix this thing? If I need to take it to an electronics repair shop to get it fixed I can, just need to know what part(s) will need to be repaired/replaced. Anyone know were I can get hold of schematics for the mainboard? If it's a

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-07-01 Thread Ronald Tallent
It can be software bug. I had that on fresh shr about 3 month ago. Rolling back cured Don't think it's software, I rolled back to one of my previously known good backups and still had the problem. Also, if it was software it should still charge when flashing or when sitting on the

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-07-01 Thread Paul Fertser
Hi, Ronald Tallent r...@tallent.ws writes: So, there's no way to fix this thing? If I need to take it to an electronics repair shop to get it fixed I can, just need to know what part(s) will need to be repaired/replaced. Anyone know were I can get hold of schematics for the mainboard? If it's

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-06-30 Thread Ronald Tallent
om --version reports it as 0.12. ~$ uname -r = 2.6.34.8 Running SHR-U from I think the builds made in February. I keep it updated pretty frequently. --Ron On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 17:55 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Ronald Tallent r...@tallent.ws writes: om usb charger-mode reading

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-06-30 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ronald Tallent r...@tallent.ws writes: om --version reports it as 0.12. ~$ uname -r = 2.6.34.8 Running SHR-U from I think the builds made in February. I keep it updated pretty frequently. I have debian with lindi@ginger:~$ uname -r 2.6.34-20101212.git049b71de lindi@ginger:~$ om --version

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-06-30 Thread Ronald Tallent
Do you know who in SHR-U is responsible for the omhacks package? Not a clue, you could message the SHR-Users list (shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org) maybe someone there knows. Oh btw, apparently there were some updated kernel modules and I got those installed. Now all the commands seem to work

Freerunner won't charge

2011-06-29 Thread Ronald Tallent
Help! I made a USB gender changer per the instructions here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables#How_to_make_a_type_A_jack_to_a_type_A_jack_adapter_.28gender_changer.29 and it tested okay with a multimeter, then I tested it with a USB keyboard and it worked as expected, then I

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-06-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ronald Tallent r...@tallent.ws writes: small multi-card reader with a microSD card in it, and since then my Freerunner will not charge via any method. Can your FR still draw power from USB to other parts than battery? -Timo ___ Openmoko community

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-06-29 Thread Ronald Tallent
No idea. *shrug* How would I test that? Where else does power go when it comes in from the USB port? The light that should come on when plugged into a charge source does not come on, (orange or blue) if that helps to answer the question, and the charge indicator never indicates that it's

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-06-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ronald Tallent r...@tallent.ws writes: No idea. *shrug* How would I test that? Use om battery consumption or similar to measure how much the Freerunner draws energy from the battery. Then connect the USB cable and check if it draws any less. Where else does power go when it comes in from the

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-06-29 Thread Ronald Tallent
Use om battery consumption or similar to measure how much the Freerunner draws energy from the battery. Then connect the USB cable and check if it draws any less. Doesn't seem to change. There's 0 drop in battery consumption as reported by om battery consumption when I plug in the USB cable

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-06-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ronald Tallent r...@tallent.ws writes: Doesn't seem to change. There's 0 drop in battery consumption as reported by om battery consumption when I plug in the USB cable or the AC adapter. Is there any hope for this thing? Thanks for your help thus far. =) Note that om battery consumption can

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-06-29 Thread Ronald Tallent
om usb charger-mode reading usb charger mode: no such file or directory also tried setting the charger mode and got the same no such file or directory message. om battery charger-limit reading battery charger limit: no such file or directory om usb charger-limit reading usb charger limit:

Re: Freerunner won't charge

2011-06-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ronald Tallent r...@tallent.ws writes: om usb charger-mode reading usb charger mode: no such file or directory also tried setting the charger mode and got the same no such file or directory message. Sounds like your kernel is too new or your omhacks is too old. What do you see with om

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi, On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Paul V. Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've flashed the updated 2008.8 on my Freerunner, and then left it for a couple of days without turning on. Yesterday I've tried to turn it on: it starts, the Openmoko logo appears, and then it suddenly turns off. I

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread flamma
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Battery ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Paul V. Borza
I'll do that. Thanks. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Paul V. Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've flashed the updated 2008.8 on my Freerunner, and then left it for a couple of days without turning on.

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Warren Baird
I've had better luck booting with the wall charger - I think it generates slightly more current than most usb ports. You might want to try that --- if that fails, then I think a replacement battery might be your only option. G'luck Warren On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Paul V. Borza

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Joseph Reeves
if that fails, then I think a replacement battery might be your only option. The battery will be fine, it's just that the phone refuses to charge it. I've had a lot of good results with a Nokia battery charger. You can also hope you've got enough juice in battery to load up the uboot menu -

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Christ van Willegen skrev: Hi, On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Paul V. Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've flashed the updated 2008.8 on my Freerunner, and then left it for a couple of days without turning on. Yesterday I've tried to turn it on: it starts, the Openmoko logo appears, and

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had this problem, too. When it had this issue, i checked, if my laptop find a usb device, and it did. the freerunner stays in uboot, bis doesn't want to charge. but i have the impression, that it charges with 100mA. That is not enough for running

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out ofpower

2008-09-02 Thread flamma
Does anyone know WHY it don't charge when it is off? My logic says that it is very important to have the option charge the battery when it is flat. Of course it is, but it's a hardware bug: Make sure that the battery never discharges completely. This is an issue because the internal

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Mike Montour
Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Does anyone know WHY it don't charge when it is off? My logic says that it is very important to have the option charge the battery when it is flat. I can't give you a simple answer. Charging is controlled by the PCF50633 chip, based on configuration values that are

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
Tuesday 02 September 2008 Paul V. Borza wrote: I've flashed the updated 2008.8 on my Freerunner, and then left it for a couple of days without turning on.Yesterday I've tried to turn it on: it starts, the Openmoko logo appears, and then it suddenly turns off. I think this is because of the

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Paul V. Borza
Everything would be great, but I don't have the wall charger with me, and I won't have it near me anytime soon (three weeks).However, I've got another charger from another phone that says: Input: 100-240V~0.2A 50-60Hz Output: 5V 1A LPS This is the charger for a HTC phone, can't remember the model

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Michael Shiloh
Paul V. Borza wrote: Everything would be great, but I don't have the wall charger with me, and I won't have it near me anytime soon (three weeks). However, I've got another charger from another phone that says: Input: 100-240V~0.2A 50-60Hz Output: 5V 1A LPS This is the charger for a HTC

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
Tuesday 02 September 2008 Paul V. Borza wrote: Everything would be great, but I don't have the wall charger with me, and I won't have it near me anytime soon (three weeks).However, I've got another charger from another phone that says: Input: 100-240V~0.2A 50-60Hz Output: 5V 1A LPS This is

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Michael Shiloh
Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: Tuesday 02 September 2008 Paul V. Borza wrote: Everything would be great, but I don't have the wall charger with me, and I won't have it near me anytime soon (three weeks).However, I've got another charger from another phone that says: Input: 100-240V~0.2A

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Daniel Benoy
Yes I've experienced this too. I have spare batteries so I experimented with completely draining my battery, and if you insert the charger, you'll probably hear a little noise out of the speaker, maybe feel it vibrate or see the LED blink, but it won't actually turn on because there's not

Re: Freerunner won't charge, and won't start anymore due to out of power

2008-09-02 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: the wiki provided me with a very simple (if slightly obscure) semi-fix: 1. Push and hold the AUX button 2. Plug in the wall charger I had to actually press the power button at this stage to get the boot menu