Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Thu 16 May 2013 09:52:33 Radek Polak wrote: > On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 05:32:15 PM Patryk Benderz wrote: > > well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) > > The story is quite sad for me personally. I have spent thousand hours on > the project. I was against registering qtmoko.org, but still people did it > and i had no control of it. And everybody started using qtmoko.org instead > of sourceforge url so it's first in google result list. Now there is some > crap on the site and the qtmoko project looks dead because of it. > > I really had no single cent from qtmoko.org nor from whole qtmoko > project... > > Regards > > Radek please everybody, don't navigate to that url qtmoko dot org - the site got hijacked by vigara/cisalis CHEAP! gangsters. Don't post the URL anywhere, and don't use any link to it showing up ib google search results for qtmoko! First instance Radek shouldn't have posted a link here in a public ML that gets indexed by google. Thanks! jOERG -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Radek, again, thanks for all the hours you put in to it, it is really appreciated ! Kind regards, Ed On 05/16/2013 09:52 AM, Radek Polak wrote: On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 05:32:15 PM Patryk Benderz wrote: > well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) The story is quite sad for me personally. I have spent thousand hours on the project. I was against registering qtmoko.org, but still people did it and i had no control of it. And everybody started using qtmoko.org instead of sourceforge url so it's first in google result list. Now there is some crap on the site and the qtmoko project looks dead because of it. I really had no single cent from qtmoko.org nor from whole qtmoko project... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 05:32:15 PM Patryk Benderz wrote: > well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) The story is quite sad for me personally. I have spent thousand hours on the project. I was against registering qtmoko.org, but still people did it and i had no control of it. And everybody started using qtmoko.org instead of sourceforge url so it's first in google result list. Now there is some crap on the site and the qtmoko project looks dead because of it. I really had no single cent from qtmoko.org nor from whole qtmoko project... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
>> well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) AFAIR the domain was owned by Fabio Alessandro. :) http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-August/067336.html -- Ranjit Pillai gnumen.org - Life & Tech in subjective perspective(Project M) librelab.org - Place of convergence of Subjective Technology(Project EP) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Sorry if I return in-topic :D How much space and time did it take to you to backup the wiki? And what about the official mailing list (what you think it will be like)? I want to do a personal backup of all we did in these years and I would like to know how I should face it. Thank you!! Matteo Il giorno 15/mag/2013 17:32, "Patryk Benderz" ha scritto: > [cut] > > the poor maqui berry people must think they are about to get 100s of > > sales with all the website traffic > well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) > > -- > Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz > Linux Registered User #377521 > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
[cut] > the poor maqui berry people must think they are about to get 100s of > sales with all the website traffic well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Wed, 15 May 2013 12:10:02 +0200 Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] > > QtMoko moved to sourceforge years ago: > Yes, I was referring to provided link http://qtmoko.org/ the poor maqui berry people must think they are about to get 100s of sales with all the website traffic ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
[cut] > QtMoko moved to sourceforge years ago: Yes, I was referring to provided link http://qtmoko.org/ -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On 05/14/2013 06:37 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] >> OpenPhoenux != OpenMoko. Rather >=. > I know, the same way: GTA02!=GTA01, rather GTA02>GTA01, however it was > (and is) successfully discussed here. It is similar with GTA04 which > seems to be still discussed here. > I know ML is already started and no one is going to revert it. Just for > future reference and next phone model, I want to say, IMHO it was not > necessary to start new ML. Of course you may have some reasons i do not > see, which mak it sense... > +1 -- ## giacomo 'giotti' mariani gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-key 0x99bfa859 O< ASCII ribbon campaign: stop HTML mail www.asciiribbon.org ## ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] >> >>Maqui Berry supplement is the latest discovery in medicine<< >> Oh really? > > Epic fail Radek ;) - I hope you have a backup of your web page. QtMoko moved to sourceforge years ago: http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/ -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
[cut] > >>Maqui Berry supplement is the latest discovery in medicine<< > Oh really? Epic fail Radek ;) - I hope you have a backup of your web page. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
[cut] > And, there are also some connections. But I also received complaints about > this > duplication. Now I get your point - even this last single reason is enough to start new ML. Thank you for the explanation. > So it is impossible to serve everybody equally well :) Unfortunately yes - as in most aspects of life... -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Tue 14 May 2013 21:44:09 Radek Polak wrote: > infrastructure. You can for example visit http://qtmoko.org/ - dont you >>Maqui Berry supplement is the latest discovery in medicine<< Oh really? ;-P /j -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Tuesday, May 14, 2013 03:42:21 PM Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] > > > Yes, a continuation is what we all dream of. Please consider > > subscribing to the OpenPhoenux mailing list > > Hi Nikolaus, > I just do not get one thing... why you started new ML? Why don't you > continue OpenPhoneux here? It was easier for You to write here, instead > of forcing lots of people to subscribe to another ML. I think it's very important to have control over your project infrastructure. You can for example visit http://qtmoko.org/ - dont you want to have similar page on gta04.org? Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Am 14.05.2013 um 18:37 schrieb Patryk Benderz: > [cut] >> OpenPhoenux != OpenMoko. Rather >=. > I know, the same way: GTA02!=GTA01, rather GTA02>GTA01, however it was > (and is) successfully discussed here. It is similar with GTA04 which GTA01 and GTA02 (and the planned GTA03) were Openmoko devices. > seems to be still discussed here. GTA04 was not and is not supported by Openmoko (except the openness which we really appreciate) and OpenPhoenux is also an independent initiative. Yes, GT04 can of course be discussed here, but its official lists are others. There are also Letux 7004 (tablet) and others which need a common home with GTA04 and I don't think they have much in common with GTA01 and GTA02 (except being ARM based and SHR / QtMoko capable). There was also some cross-posting in the past because GTA01>A02 owners may also be interested about newer developments by the OpenPhoenux project. And, there are also some connections. But I also received complaints about this duplication. So it is impossible to serve everybody equally well :) -- hns ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
[cut] > OpenPhoenux != OpenMoko. Rather >=. I know, the same way: GTA02!=GTA01, rather GTA02>GTA01, however it was (and is) successfully discussed here. It is similar with GTA04 which seems to be still discussed here. I know ML is already started and no one is going to revert it. Just for future reference and next phone model, I want to say, IMHO it was not necessary to start new ML. Of course you may have some reasons i do not see, which mak it sense... -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Hi Patryk, Am 14.05.2013 um 15:42 schrieb Patryk Benderz: > [cut] >> Yes, a continuation is what we all dream of. Please consider >> subscribing to the OpenPhoenux mailing list > Hi Nikolaus, > I just do not get one thing... why you started new ML? Why don't you > continue OpenPhoneux here? It was easier for You to write here, instead OpenPhoenux != OpenMoko. Rather >=. > of forcing lots of people to subscribe to another ML. It is an invitation to a list more suitable for future projects. Nobody is forced to go there. -- hns ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
[cut] > Yes, a continuation is what we all dream of. Please consider > subscribing to the OpenPhoenux mailing list Hi Nikolaus, I just do not get one thing... why you started new ML? Why don't you continue OpenPhoneux here? It was easier for You to write here, instead of forcing lots of people to subscribe to another ML. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
great people great community... everything is great about it... learned and 'am still learning a lot from such a movement.. kudos to every effort and the continuation of this in the form of GTA04 BR On 5/14/13, Harald Welte wrote: > Just an interim status update: > > The following services have been moved to the new machine now: > * www.openmoko.org (http) > * wiki.openmoko.org (http) > * downloads.openmoko.org (http, ftp, rsync) > * 3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org (http) > * svn.openmoko.org (http) > * svnweb.openmoko.org (http) > * git.openmoko.org (ssh, git, http) > * admin-trac.openmoko.org (http) > * webdesign.openmoko.org (http, was already defunct) > > I'm currently working on docs.openmoko.org. Once that is done, I'll > probably leave everything for some time as-is waiting for fall-out. > > Later (next week or the week after) I'll continue with the remaining > parts, which will most likely be the more difficult ones: > > * people.openmoko.org (ssh, http) > * imap.openmoko.org (imap) > * mail.openmoko.org (smtp) > * lists.openmoko.org (mailman) > > But there will definitely be a heads-up before that happens. > > Regards, > Harald > -- > - Harald Welte > http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ > > "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." > (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. > A6) > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Ranjit Pillai gnumen.org - Life & Tech in subjective perspective(Project M) librelab.org - Place of convergence of Subjective Technology(Project EP) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Just an interim status update: The following services have been moved to the new machine now: * www.openmoko.org (http) * wiki.openmoko.org (http) * downloads.openmoko.org (http, ftp, rsync) * 3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org (http) * svn.openmoko.org (http) * svnweb.openmoko.org (http) * git.openmoko.org (ssh, git, http) * admin-trac.openmoko.org (http) * webdesign.openmoko.org (http, was already defunct) I'm currently working on docs.openmoko.org. Once that is done, I'll probably leave everything for some time as-is waiting for fall-out. Later (next week or the week after) I'll continue with the remaining parts, which will most likely be the more difficult ones: * people.openmoko.org (ssh, http) * imap.openmoko.org (imap) * mail.openmoko.org (smtp) * lists.openmoko.org (mailman) But there will definitely be a heads-up before that happens. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Weltehttp://laforge.gnumonks.org/ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am 14.05.2013 um 02:24 schrieb Patrick Beck: > Hello., > > i want to say thank you, too. It was a great time with my Freerunner. The > first steps with a Smartphone. Openmoko is a great Project > > and i hope we get it continue with Openphoenux > Yes, a continuation is what we all dream of. Please consider subscribing to the OpenPhoenux mailing list since important discussions are going on there. > Openmoko was before his time and set new aspects to open source and open > hardware. > Thank you Sean, Harald and all related i not named here. > Thank you that you have kept it alive for such a long time, even after the end of the GTA02 production! Nikolaus > With kind regards > Patrick > > Am 14.05.2013 06:30 schrieb "Liz" : > On Mon, 13 May 2013 19:17:33 +0200 > Harald Welte wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much > > simplified infrastructure on one physical server, > snip > > Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until > > today out of his personal pocket. > > > > Regards, > > Harald > > Thanks Harald and Sean > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Hello., i want to say thank you, too. It was a great time with my Freerunner. The first steps with a Smartphone. Openmoko is a great Project and i hope we get it continue with Openphoenux Openmoko was before his time and set new aspects to open source and open hardware. Thank you Sean, Harald and all related i not named here. With kind regards Patrick Am 14.05.2013 06:30 schrieb "Liz" : > On Mon, 13 May 2013 19:17:33 +0200 > Harald Welte wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much > > simplified infrastructure on one physical server, > snip > > Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until > > today out of his personal pocket. > > > > Regards, > > Harald > > Thanks Harald and Sean > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Mon, 13 May 2013 19:17:33 +0200 Harald Welte wrote: > Dear all, > > during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much > simplified infrastructure on one physical server, snip > Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until > today out of his personal pocket. > > Regards, > Harald Thanks Harald and Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
On Mon, 13 May 2013 20:24:12 +0200 matteo sanvito wrote: > Thank you very much! I would have done a backup somehow as soon > because I was afraid of losing all that knowledge! And thank you too > Sean!! +1 Matteo I'd like to add my thanks to Harald, Sean, and the rest of the people responsible for the wealth of information provided on the wiki, mailing lists, irc, etc. You made my Neo FR a very fun device to own and use. It doesn't get the same amount of use as it did a few years ago but it's still something I won't ever part with; like my 486DX2 I simply can't bear the thought of not having it around to play with. Before you condemn me for such a disparate example just remember that if it wasn't for lower level access to hardware back in the emergent and heady days of 'PC' hardware we'd be a lot worse off on the whole. OpenMoko and OpenPhoenux are prime examples of the spirit behind innovation even if some of it is constrained by NDAs at least the effort will always be there. B > > > 2013/5/13 Harald Welte > > > Dear all, > > > > during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much > > simplified infrastructure on one physical server, rather than a > > dozen of virtual machines over three physical machines. As part of > > that, there will be occasional outages, without any additional > > announcements. The IP addresses for all of openmoko.org services > > will also change as part of that process. > > > > I will start step-by-step with > > web/wiki/dcs/svn/trac/git/people/bugzilla, while e-mail and mailing > > lists will be running on the old machines until the very last > > step. So this (and other) mailing lists are going to work. I'll > > send another announcement before touching anything e-mail related. > > > > Once the move to the new server is completed, I will finalyl be > > able to do the long overdue step and accept other volunteers from > > the community for system administration. > > > > Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until > > today out of his personal pocket. > > > > Regards, > > Harald > > -- > > - Harald Welte > > http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ > > > > > > "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing > > option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. > > A6) > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Thank you very much! I would have done a backup somehow as soon because I was afraid of losing all that knowledge! And thank you too Sean!! 2013/5/13 Harald Welte > Dear all, > > during the next weeks I'm going to move *.openmoko.org to a new much > simplified infrastructure on one physical server, rather than a dozen of > virtual machines over three physical machines. As part of that, there > will be occasional outages, without any additional announcements. The > IP addresses for all of openmoko.org services will also change as part > of that process. > > I will start step-by-step with > web/wiki/dcs/svn/trac/git/people/bugzilla, while e-mail and mailing > lists will be running on the old machines until the very last step. So > this (and other) mailing lists are going to work. I'll send another > announcement before touching anything e-mail related. > > Once the move to the new server is completed, I will finalyl be able to > do the long overdue step and accept other volunteers from the community > for system administration. > > Thanks to Sean Moss-Pultz for paying for the server hosting until today > out of his personal pocket. > > Regards, > Harald > -- > - Harald Welte > http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ > > > "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." > (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. > A6) > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
