Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Thursday 05 February 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Joel Newkirk wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:46:09 -0200, Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com wrote: How do I find out what version my neo is? Do I have to open it? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Finding_hardware_revision That page has several ways of finding the revision, and they seem to give conflicting results: /proc/cpuinfo: Hardware: GTA02 Revision: 0360 Serial : So, a gta02.v06? Correct. I guess this is in NAND somewhere, written at manufacture. $ mickeyterm at+cgmr +CGMR: HW: GTA02BV5, GSM: gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko10 A gta02.v5? This one depends on the GSM firmware version I think. AFAIK there is only one moko10 firmware image, so it may report the same version on all hardware. Did you upgrade to moko10 manually, or did it ship like that? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
To take part in the survey click here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I can't answer the question What band does your provider use, because mine uses both 900 and 1800. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
To take part in the survey click here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I can't answer the question What band does your provider use, because mine uses both 900 and 1800. But the FR uses only one of them at the same time, doesn't it? And of course you could add two records. I mean in case the answers to the other questions would change depending on the band you use. Regards thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 09:55, Thomas Otterbein th.otterb...@gmx.net wrote: I can't answer the question What band does your provider use, because mine uses both 900 and 1800. But the FR uses only one of them at the same time, doesn't it? And of course you could add two records. I mean in case the answers to the other questions would change depending on the band you use. one at a time but it can change whenever it wants, and even during call. Also I there is no easy way to know what band you are currently using. Yes some others answers (buzz...) may be affected by the band in use, but also by a lot of other factors (signal strength, provider, ...). Who will know all these parameters for all specific behaviour of his freerunner ? And creating a new record for every combination is not really an option anyway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Thomas Otterbein th.otterb...@gmx.net wrote: To take part in the survey click here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I can't answer the question What band does your provider use, because mine uses both 900 and 1800. But the FR uses only one of them at the same time, doesn't it? And of course you could add two records. I mean in case the answers to the other questions would change depending on the band you use. Regards thomas I'm not sure what the FR uses, because 2008.12 doesn't display cell info (if I could see the cell info I could tell which one the phone is currently using (900 or 1800) because, when it uses 1800 there's number 8 in the cell name). But with other phones it's so that it changes when I move around. When 1800 MHz is available then it uses this and otherwise it uses 900 MHz. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 11:12 +0200, Margo Koppelmann wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Thomas Otterbein th.otterb...@gmx.net
wrote:
To take part in the survey click here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg
I can't answer the question What band does your provider use,
because mine uses both 900 and 1800.
But the FR uses only one of them at the same time, doesn't it?
And of course you could add two records. I mean in case the answers to the
other questions would change depending on the band you use.
Regards
thomas
I'm not sure what the FR uses, because 2008.12 doesn't display cell
info (if I could see the cell info I could tell which one the phone is
currently using (900 or 1800) because, when it uses 1800 there's
number 8 in the cell name). But with other phones it's so that it
changes when I move around. When 1800 MHz is available then it uses
this and otherwise it uses 900 MHz.
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Hi Margo,
You can find out the cell id with the following chat script.
( asuming you use gsm0710muxd )
TIMEOUT 15
ATE0
ABORT BUSY
ABORT DELAYED
ABORT NO ANSWER
ABORT NO DIALTONE
ABORT VOICE
ABORT ERROR
ABORT RINGING
OK AT+CMGF=1
OK AT+CREG=2
OK AT+CREG?
OK AT+CREG=0
CLR_ABORT
ABORT OK
Save it to /tmp/chatscript and run
MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call
--dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer
org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar | grep string |
awk -F '' '{ print $2 }')
# the above is 1 line
chat -s -S -V -v -f /tmp/chatscript ${MODEM} ${MODEM}
This will give you the cellid and LAC in hex.
Is this the same as the cell name?
Kind regards,
Ed
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Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote:
Hi Margo,
You can find out the cell id with the following chat script.
( asuming you use gsm0710muxd )
TIMEOUT 15
ATE0
ABORT BUSY
ABORT DELAYED
ABORT NO ANSWER
ABORT NO DIALTONE
ABORT VOICE
ABORT ERROR
ABORT RINGING
OK AT+CMGF=1
OK AT+CREG=2
OK AT+CREG?
OK AT+CREG=0
CLR_ABORT
ABORT OK
Save it to /tmp/chatscript and run
MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call
--dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer
org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar | grep string |
awk -F '' '{ print $2 }')
# the above is 1 line
chat -s -S -V -v -f /tmp/chatscript ${MODEM} ${MODEM}
This will give you the cellid and LAC in hex.
Is this the same as the cell name?
Kind regards,
Ed
(First time it went only to Ed. I'm sending it again. Sorry.)
I think that is not the same. I don't know how it is called. But my
old nokia phone shows it on the home screen. And in the nokia's
settings menu it is called cell info display. In my network it is
usually the name of the place where the cell tower locates and some
number (and when it's 1800MHz there is a number 8).
But I found out how I can see what frequency the FR is currently using
(
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_and_Neo_FreeRunner_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29
). I put AT%EM=2,1 in your chat script. Like this:
TIMEOUT 15
ATE0
ABORT BUSY
ABORT DELAYED
ABORT NO ANSWER
ABORT NO DIALTONE
ABORT VOICE
ABORT ERROR
ABORT RINGING
OK AT%EM=2,1
CLR_ABORT
ABORT OK
(I don't know if all these other lines are necessary).
It says my Current Channel Number is 49. So according to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_and_Neo_FreeRunner_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29
my FR is currently using 900 MHz. I'll see if that changes if I go
somewhere else.
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Re: [All] FR survey and locations
How do I find out what version my neo is? Do I have to open it? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Thomas Otterbein th.otterb...@gmx.netwrote: Dear all, questions about buying a FR now or later, waiting for this or that software and using this or that distribution arrive on a regular basis on this list. I read them all although I'm usually quite unhappy with the answers that happen to arrive on such a mailing. IMHO they represent -naturally- rather the authors personal liking of a certain distro than a neutral perspective on the most common issues (buzz, echo, battery, etc.). I understand that it depends a lot on the concrete device (revision) one uses and the circumstances (location, provider, gsm band, etc.) it's used in and -of course- on the personal expectations. So here's my approach to get the most urgent questions answered by a large group of users while allowing to take the decession on a most neutral base of data. I created a survey with the most important questions - at least to me but I'm happy to optimize it to make it usefull for a larger group of people. The questions are: What revisions of the FR are are out there and in use? What distro is used at the most? How many are (still) suffering from buzz/echo? Is there any indication that these problems are located or more frequent in certain corners of the world? The survey is a simple Google-Form. You can see the any entered records as a sheet here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg To take part in the survey click here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I also created a Google-Map where everyone can enter the location of his or her FR, so people, who would like to see and/or touch it before buying their own, could find the closest FR-owner http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enmsa=0msid=115352610340426907999.000461ec26b35ac3fad63z=7 The Google-Form offers a kind of summary too, which may show some usefull statistics if enough FR-owners take part in the survey. However it cannot, for whatever reason, be made public. If someone is interessted I'll publish the summary somewhere else then. Thanks in advance for your support! Regards thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pablo Miño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:46:09 -0200, Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com wrote: How do I find out what version my neo is? Do I have to open it? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Finding_hardware_revision j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
This is great, I was actually thinking about setting up one of these google forms myself. I wanted to see if there where any other Freerunner users in my area. But you took it one step further. Good Job. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
I put that I have an Echo problem, But I only have the problem while on speaker phone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
