Re: [Community] Growing the Community

[joerg Reisenweber]

On Fri 14 June 2013 09:32:40 Radek Polak wrote:
> On Friday, June 14, 2013 09:19:37 AM Radek Polak wrote:
> > It appears now that we dont have demand/money for building new GTA04 but
> > maybe that does not matter for now... Doing new designs and products on
> > top of GTA04 board might be now more interesting and could bring interest
> > to the openphoenux project.
> 
> Maybe we could ask e.g. comunity around blender to design some unusual and
> nice case for GTA04 board?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Radek

regarding case I never understood the idea behind using the gta02 case. Just 
for an arbitrarily picked example, since I know about it a bit: N900 cases and 
touchpanels/digitizers and LCD are readily available and they are cheaper and 
imho higher quality than the gta02 ones. 
While building your own case _still_ is a major PITA, like it been back in 
Openmoko Inc times. I even back then company-internally seriously suggested to 
find an existing case rather than going through the hassle and expense to get 
extremely expensive molds manufactured for producing Openmoko genuine case. 
One of the main arguments against it been that our LCD needs to fit into the 
case. Now that we rather would like to use an available and cheap LCD rather 
than the last few dozen of existing spare parts for gta02, the argument counts 
in favour of ME from big companies. There's a rather huge community around 
Nokia N900 that is eagerly awaiting any successor with most of the properties 
exactly like the N900, regarding hw-kbd, resistive touchscreen etc. Just 
pretty please with faster CPU (still OMAP!), more RAM, and more sturdy USB 
port. I'd think THAT would be a good project to place a new board into an 
available old case and screen.

/j
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Re: [Community] Growing the Community

[Radek Polak]

On Friday, June 14, 2013 09:19:37 AM Radek Polak wrote:

> It appears now that we dont have demand/money for building new GTA04 but
> maybe that does not matter for now... Doing new designs and products on
> top of GTA04 board might be now more interesting and could bring interest
> to the openphoenux project.

Maybe we could ask e.g. comunity around blender to design some unusual and 
nice case for GTA04 board?

Regards

Radek
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Re: [Community] Growing the Community

[Radek Polak]

On Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:44:22 PM Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:

> I think you can - since the GTA04 is sort of an upgrade for the GTA01/02
> and therefore can extend the life of the device. It was the logical
> extension of the Bas/Buzz/#1024 fix activities. I.e. a CPU/Glamo/WWAN-Data
> speed fix.

From my point of view it appears that:

1/ board upgrade is not enough to attract new people.

2/ being free/open is also not enough - it's just additional value. The real 
value is the product itself.

IMO to be succesfull we need to offer really working phone + something that 
others dont have. Some ideas probably already metioned:

- modified case for AAA batteries instead of openmoko battery. Would be nice 
e.g. for travelling when you dont have charger

- eink display on backside - cool for reading and great battery life

- solar charging

- induction charging

- HW keys for playing games - like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8VRABmJKSw

- case with blackberry or similar HW keyboard like this: 
http://www.blackberrymall.net/blackberry-bold-9700-keyboard-qwerty-keypad.html

- case which converts the phone to tablet or to notebook like this:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/asus-padfone-infinity-review/

It appears now that we dont have demand/money for building new GTA04 but maybe 
that does not matter for now... Doing new designs and products on top of GTA04 
board might be now more interesting and could bring interest to the 
openphoenux project.

And of course fixing existing problems would be really nice. Especially:

1/ poor power management. We are still far behind Neo Freerunner. Try to 
really use GTA04 as a phone for some time and count how many times you found 
it discharged. My N900 which is very similar HW can live 5days and it even 
does not go to suspend. GTA04 if you are lucky can do 2 days. Unfortunately i 
cant really help much here, because i never worked with HW except sending some 
bits to kernel from userspace.

2/ i am willing to try to flash newer modem firmware on my broken GTA04 if it 
helps with modem reenumeration.

Regards

Radek
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Re: [Community] Growing the Community

[Adrien Dorsaz]

Well, swap38 has founded a french OpenMoko community
(http://openmoko-fr.org) and the website (forum/blog/...) is dying,
because OpenMoko hasn't a lot of news (instead of great work of QtMoko
developers for the GTA02).

I'm almost the only one who has a GTA04 inside this community and I'm
not able to keep site attractive (yeah, latest news are already for
GTA04 and I'm not sure if I can continue to "spam" the OpenMoko
community with GTA04 news...).

Maybe some of you have an idea to take interest of these people and
maybe to merge the openmoko-fr community with the openphoenux one
(Indeed, an issue for openmoko-fr is the number of volunteers) ?

I've cc swap38 and openmoko list to be sure that some (last) openmoko-fr
members see this message.

Hope we can make great things together,
Adrien

Le jeudi 13 juin 2013 à 20:58 +0200, Lukas Märdian a écrit :
> In order to attract people outside the community we have to somehow make
> them think our project is worth their time.
> 
> In the simplest case, this can be done by a clean and informative
> project homepage. Therefore I created a new wiki page with a proposal
> for a new start page of openphoenux.org:
>   http://projects.goldelico.com/p/openphoenux/page/StartPageProposal
> 
> I used a little CSS to hide the wiki's "context" bar on the left side,
> but still keeping wiki functionality available (top bar). Furthermore I
> tried to give the content a little more structure and align everything a
> little bit.
> 
> What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth to move it to the
> start page?
> 
> BR,
>   Lukas
> 
> Am 13.06.2013 19:28, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
> > 
> > Am 13.06.2013 um 18:41 schrieb Lukas Märdian:
> > 
> >> Ah, I see.
> >>
> >> I've converted the text/font to paths in the SVG and created a PNG
> > 
> > This wnow works as expected.
> > 
> >> version as well. Both are attached.
> > 
> > I have updated all files on the web front page.
> > 
> >>
> >> And I've already put the "Member of the OpenPhoenux Community"-Button on
> >> my blog:
> >>  http://blog.slyon.de
> > 
> > Looks good!
> > 
> > Nikolaus
> > 
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>  Lukas
> >>
> >> Am 13.06.2013 18:16, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
> >>>
> >>> Am 13.06.2013 um 18:04 schrieb Lukas Märdian:
> >>>
>  Hi,
> 
>  this sounds like a nice idea!
>  But the Logo (openphoenux.jpg) seems to be using a wrong font.
> >>>
> >>> Hm. Not really a wrong font.
> >>>
> >>> The SVG appears to use a font called "Sans" (which is not the same as 
> >>> "sans-serif") that is not installed in my machine:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> style="font-size:48px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:125%;letter-spacing:0px;word-spacing:0px;fill:#8b8b8b;fill-opacity:1;stroke:none;font-family:Sans"
> >>>
> >>> So I never noticed that the designer did intend something else.
> >>>
>  The original SVG contained a sans-serif font, which gives a more
>  symmetric appearance.
> >>>
> >>> So it is more a bug that the text is not a vector graphics itself
> >>>
> 
>  I exported the SVG to a jpg, which contains the original font, maybe you
>  could exchange the files? The jpg file is attached and has the same
>  resolution.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, looks better. Thanks! I will update everything.
> >>>
> 
>  BR,
>  Lukas
> 
>  Am 13.06.2013 16:48, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
> > to help to grow the community I have made some extended
> > excerpt from the LinuxTag presentation which describes the
> > reasons why the world needs this community, what it is and
> > what its values are to give reasons why interested persons should
> > be a member. You can find it here (or linked on the top left
> > of http://www.openphoenux.org)
> >
> > 
> >  [1]
> >
> > It is not enough that we have the document somewhere... It must
> > be actively used by those who never did hear about OpenPhoenux.
> >
> > So please use this material when talking to people about our activities.
> >
> > I think you could also do that by subscribing to relevant mailing lists
> > and fora and inserting it into discussions whenever it appears to be
> > appropriate. Sort of viral spreading of the word :)
> >
> > Another means of attracting new community members can be
> > by using the Logo and linking to the openphoenux.org home
> > page. You can easily do that by inserting the following (or similar)
> > HTML into your personal home page, blogs or other publications
> > where you find it appropriate.
> >
> > 
> > http://www.openphoenux.org";>
> > Member of
> >  > src="http://www.openphoenux.org/images/openphoenux.jpg";>
> > Community
> > 
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