Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)

2010-08-20 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Am Freitag 20 August 2010, 01:04:55 schrieb W. B. Kranendonk:
 Hi List,
 
 I'd like to start trying to contribute to the Openmoko-ecosystem in a more
 meaningful manner than lurking the mailinglists.
 
 I also like to see if I can add my own twist to my phone (running SHR-U). I
 imagined combining those two wishes by getting a toolchain running and see
 what happens to the code I put through it.

Hi,
there is a problem with a toolchain for SHR-U: in SHR-unstable eglibc and gcc 
changes really often. If one of those changes the whole toolchain needs to be 
recompiled, because every lib needs to be build with the current eglibc and 
gcc version to run properly.
In this case you would have to download a new toolchain about every week, 
because of that there is no toolchain for SHR-U.

So to build an app for SHR-u you have to set up a bitbake enviroment like 
discribt in [1] and then create a recipe for your app like discribet in [2].

But this is a long process, it needs about 10 hours on my PC (2,8GHz core2duo, 
8Gb ram) and downloads about 15Gb of data, so a more powerfull machine then 
your laptop would be good.

If you don't have another PC you can come to the #openmoko-devel IRC channel, 
perhaps we can find a solution for you.

Greets
Thomas


[1] http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR
[2] http://shr-
project.org/trac/wiki/Howto%20get%20my%20application%20in%20the%20SHR%20feed

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Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)

2010-08-20 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Thomas Zimmermann m...@vdm-design.de wrote:
 (...) 8Gb ram) and downloads about 15Gb of data, so a more
 powerfull machine then 
 your laptop would be good.
Hahah... The harddisk is 20GB.. I lend my desktop (with about 3GHz single core 
AMD a bit more up to date) to my sister... Perhaps she likes a new laptop ;-) 

 If you don't have another PC you can come to the
 #openmoko-devel IRC channel, 
 perhaps we can find a solution for you.
Budget allowing, there's a new laptop coming later this year (yahoo!). Time 
allowing I'll join the channel, thanks!

Boudewijn


  

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Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)

2010-08-20 Thread Michele Brocco
On 8/20/10, W. B. Kranendonk wankelwan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Thomas Zimmermann m...@vdm-design.de wrote:
 (...) 8Gb ram) and downloads about 15Gb of data, so a more
 powerfull machine then
 your laptop would be good.
 Hahah... The harddisk is 20GB.. I lend my desktop (with about 3GHz single
 core AMD a bit more up to date) to my sister... Perhaps she likes a new
 laptop ;-)

 If you don't have another PC you can come to the
 #openmoko-devel IRC channel,
 perhaps we can find a solution for you.
 Budget allowing, there's a new laptop coming later this year (yahoo!).
 Time allowing I'll join the channel, thanks!

Hi,

it is not the right way to do it but you may try downloading the old
OM toolchain, replace the opkg sources (then opkg-target upgrade) with
the shr ones and pray :). I think for a first start in the SHR world
until you have your new laptop it could work maybe.

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Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)

2010-08-20 Thread W. B. Kranendonk


 it is not the right way to do it but you may try
 downloading the old
 OM toolchain, replace the opkg sources (then opkg-target
 upgrade) with
 the shr ones and pray :). I think for a first start in the
 SHR world
 until you have your new laptop it could work maybe.

Praying is not my strongest, let alone most used, talent, but I'll give it a 
try for starters ;-) 

Boudewijn


  

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Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)

2010-08-20 Thread Martin Jansa
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 04:09:05AM -0700, W. B. Kranendonk wrote:
 
 
  it is not the right way to do it but you may try
  downloading the old
  OM toolchain, replace the opkg sources (then opkg-target
  upgrade) with
  the shr ones and pray :). I think for a first start in the
  SHR world
  until you have your new laptop it could work maybe.
 
 Praying is not my strongest, let alone most used, talent, but I'll give it a 
 try for starters ;-) 
 
 Boudewijn

You can also try newer toolchain from Angstrom
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/

angstrom-next is using almost the same toolchain as we're, but wasn't
published for armv4t yet
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/next/

or try to generate own sdk image with narciuss 
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus
sdk toolchain options are shown only after switching to advanced options, 
but there is no option for angstrom-next..

Regards,

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Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)

2010-08-20 Thread Martin Jansa
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 01:37:32PM +0200, Martin Jansa wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 04:09:05AM -0700, W. B. Kranendonk wrote:
  
  
   it is not the right way to do it but you may try
   downloading the old
   OM toolchain, replace the opkg sources (then opkg-target
   upgrade) with
   the shr ones and pray :). I think for a first start in the
   SHR world
   until you have your new laptop it could work maybe.
  
  Praying is not my strongest, let alone most used, talent, but I'll give it 
  a try for starters ;-) 
  
  Boudewijn
 
 You can also try newer toolchain from Angstrom
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/
 
 angstrom-next is using almost the same toolchain as we're, but wasn't
 published for armv4t yet
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/next/
 
 or try to generate own sdk image with narciuss 
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus
 sdk toolchain options are shown only after switching to advanced options, 
 but there is no option for angstrom-next..
 
 Regards,

And fresh new SHR toolchain:
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/sdk/

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Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)

2010-08-20 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
 And fresh new SHR toolchain:
 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/sdk/
And fresh it is! Long live SSH, allowing me to run it on a remote desktop 
(should have thought of that before :-) )

Downloaded the files and now extracting to /usr/local/shr/* 

Am I correct in understanding that I can follow the openmoko wiki with those 
toolchains? (shr--20100820-x86_64-linux-armv4t-linux-gnueabi-toolchain + extras)

Boudewijn


  

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Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)

2010-08-20 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
 angstrom-next is using almost the same toolchain as we're,
(...)
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus
 sdk toolchain options are shown only after switching to
 advanced options, 
 but there is no option for angstrom-next..

Ha, but there IS an option for A780 and SmartQ :-)

By the way, thanks for on demand toolchain creation!

Boudewijn


  

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