Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-10-01 Thread Kieran Fleming
A small bug - I can't enter my APN in the GPRS settings because there is
a size limit on the field. Based on reading the GSM spec, the maximum
length allowed seems to be 100 characters. The spec i found is at 
www.3gpp.org/ftp/TSG_SA/WG2_Arch/TSGS2_05/SMG12_and_QoSah/TDocs/C-99-466.doc
if anyone wants to try to make sense of it.

On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 23:16 +0200, Michele Renda wrote:
 vale wrote:
  yeah more ideas :D
  
  - Power: suspend, shutdown, reboot
  - Screen: brightness, touchscreen on/off, rotate
  - Sound: volume / mute
  - LED control
  - Accelereometers: read out data
  - Network: show connections (ifconfig)
 
 So, here there are the ideas I collected until now ( I divided between
 the one I'd like to implement within the next version and the others)
 
 NEXT VERSION:
 
 
 [GPS]
 a.Fix status / Time to fist fix
 b.Warm / Cold restart
 c.Satellite time (Botton to sync the clock with satellite time)
   
   [Phone]
 d.NTP time (button to sync the clock with NTP server time)
   
   [Screen]
 e.Brightness level
 f.Screen rotate (Ps. someone know if glamo run now under Debian?)
   
   
 
 FUTURE VERSION:
 
 [Sound]
 Volume / Mute
 waiting to know which will be the framework to use in DEBIAN for FR
   
 [USB]
 Show a list of attached USB device (when in host mode, like an lsusb)
   
 [Wifi]
 Show a list of available wireless network
   
 [Network]
 Show a list of interfaces? :)
 
 
 Please send me others idea / suggestions, they will be very apreciated
 
 Michele Renda
 
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-10-01 Thread Michele Renda
I am using gyspy it seem to be very simple. I like it! :)

Michele Renda

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-10-01 Thread Michele Renda
I know It is very complicated to fit it to stay in a little screen
(or may be I use a big font). I was thinking to the poor person that
will localize it in German.

I every case I will release for this evening (I hope) a 2.0 pre
alpha where I improved a lot the GPS section (now it show the
current time, the position, and some other little things)

I will fix also this bug (really, I was not thinking that someone will
use this gui :)

I am adding also some command line switch to set:

a) Language: current supported en, it, ro
b) Preload mode: following a discussion of yesterday I read that some
person think that python can do slow gui... I am new to python so I
want to make sephora a bit optimized. I restructured the code be used
in preload mode o not preload.

In preload mode the starting of the program is more slow, but then the
switch between the section is very fast. Without preload without is
the contrary.
I would like to know if what do you think about it, and if according
you is possible an ibrid solution.

I will keep you informed
Michele Renda

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-10-01 Thread Michele Renda
Hello Timo, All

may be you can help me... you have experience about Debian Source package?

I'd like a lot to be able to make a Deb-Src package... in this way
it'd be possible to tke the sources with:

dpkg-get source sephora

and to push in a repository with

dput

It is possible to do it with python sources? (so without makefile)
Have someone have any info?

Thank to all :)

2008/9/23 Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 http://rubino.dyndns.org/

 Can you put the debian source package online too?

 best regards,
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-30 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/9/25 Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 [USB]
 Show a list of attached USB device (when in host mode, like an lsusb)

not sure if anyone's suggested this, but i'd like to know whether the
usb port is in host or device mode - reduces the risk of me plugging
in to my desktop when i shouldn't and doing some damage


 Please send me others idea / suggestions, they will be very apreciated

 Michele Renda

make it configurable, perhaps with profiles - allow any widget to be
hidden; when i'm mapping for osm for instance, i'm not too bothered
about the status of the accelerometers

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-30 Thread Michele Renda
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Robin Paulson wrote:
 not sure if anyone's suggested this, but i'd like to know whether the
 usb port is in host or device mode - reduces the risk of me plugging
 in to my desktop when i shouldn't and doing some damage

It already do this :) There is in the Usb section a select: it the state
change there is a dbus signal that change the active element of the
select box

 Please send me others idea / suggestions, they will be very apreciated

 Michele Renda
 
 make it configurable, perhaps with profiles - allow any widget to be
 hidden;

This is a very good idea, I'd like to do it. The problem is that is was
born more with a settings manager, than something for every day use (it
realy born because I don't like too much to type on the keyboard :)

when i'm mapping for osm for instance, i'm not too bothered
 about the status of the accelerometers

Mmm... what you need, I think, is more the openmoko-panel, that I think
can give you more real time values (it can simply stay near your clock)

Best regards
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-29 Thread TeXitoi
vale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 it would be nice, to have more control over gps. to see the status,
 satellites, do a warm / cold restart, time to first fix, like in the
 gps-ui for openmoko distribution. thats missing in debian and fso :(

Using fso-gpsd seems to do warm start. It work quit OK, but there is 2
big problems that make me change to a classical gpsd allown:
 - fso-gpsd toggle GPS on/off automaticly, which seems to be a good
idea, but is not when tangogps segfault: You have to wait for another
fix before using it.
 - using fso-gpsd, I have sometimes no gps information during some
seconds or minutes, which is problematic when you are mapping for
openstreetmap.

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-29 Thread TeXitoi
Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   [Phone]
 d.NTP time (button to sync the clock with NTP server time)

button to sync with the GPS clock (do not need network).

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-29 Thread Michele Renda
Hello, I am working just on this now :)
I am flighting to understand the Gpspy. I use a lot DBus, so I prefer
to don't use gpsd-fso.

First thing I have a question:  When I get the first fix this don't
mean I have the position, is it right? Using Debian, I get the first
Fix in around 1 Min, but before I get the position I have to wait a
lot (30 min). Someone has the same problem? I have to add that I never
update the Debian kernel on my FR.

I am adding Gps time sync button, and may be a little surprise! :)

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-29 Thread Fox Mulder
When you get the first fix you also should see your position. But after
first fix the position is quite unsharp and gets better in the next
seconds/minutes. For me i have my position within 30-60 seconds after
starting gps.
I use the latest fso and sometimes the latest om kernel with debian

Ciao,
 Rainer

Michele Renda wrote:
 Hello, I am working just on this now :)
 I am flighting to understand the Gpspy. I use a lot DBus, so I prefer
 to don't use gpsd-fso.
 
 First thing I have a question:  When I get the first fix this don't
 mean I have the position, is it right? Using Debian, I get the first
 Fix in around 1 Min, but before I get the position I have to wait a
 lot (30 min). Someone has the same problem? I have to add that I never
 update the Debian kernel on my FR.
 
 I am adding Gps time sync button, and may be a little surprise! :)
 
 Michele Renda
 
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-29 Thread Michele Renda
I say my situation:

 mdbus -s  org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy GetFixStatus

Give me 1 after 30 sec.

But I am unable to take my position for a long time (30 min, 1
hour) I seem to take a lot of satellites (11 - 12 satellites) but
no position!

If I do:

 mdbus -s  org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy  GetTime

Than after a while ( and if I go out for a walk, I take a position,
and from them is simply perfect)

I updated to latest version of FSO but I still have the kerned
received when installing Debian @ FR.
(Ps. If someone know a very easy way to update it please tell to me)

Thank to all :)
Michele Renda


2008/9/29 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 When you get the first fix you also should see your position. But after
 first fix the position is quite unsharp and gets better in the next
 seconds/minutes. For me i have my position within 30-60 seconds after
 starting gps.
 I use the latest fso and sometimes the latest om kernel with debian

 Ciao,
 Rainer

 Michele Renda wrote:
 Hello, I am working just on this now :)
 I am flighting to understand the Gpspy. I use a lot DBus, so I prefer
 to don't use gpsd-fso.

 First thing I have a question:  When I get the first fix this don't
 mean I have the position, is it right? Using Debian, I get the first
 Fix in around 1 Min, but before I get the position I have to wait a
 lot (30 min). Someone has the same problem? I have to add that I never
 update the Debian kernel on my FR.

 I am adding Gps time sync button, and may be a little surprise! :)

 Michele Renda

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-29 Thread Fox Mulder
I wrote in the openmoko debian wiki page [1] how to update the kernel.
It is quite easy but must be done manually because it isn't updated
automatically.

Ciao,
 Rainer

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian

Michele Renda wrote:
 I say my situation:
 
  mdbus -s  org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy GetFixStatus
 
 Give me 1 after 30 sec.
 
 But I am unable to take my position for a long time (30 min, 1
 hour) I seem to take a lot of satellites (11 - 12 satellites) but
 no position!
 
 If I do:
 
  mdbus -s  org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy  GetTime
 
 Than after a while ( and if I go out for a walk, I take a position,
 and from them is simply perfect)
 
 I updated to latest version of FSO but I still have the kerned
 received when installing Debian @ FR.
 (Ps. If someone know a very easy way to update it please tell to me)
 
 Thank to all :)
 Michele Renda
 
 
 2008/9/29 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 When you get the first fix you also should see your position. But after
 first fix the position is quite unsharp and gets better in the next
 seconds/minutes. For me i have my position within 30-60 seconds after
 starting gps.
 I use the latest fso and sometimes the latest om kernel with debian

 Ciao,
 Rainer

 Michele Renda wrote:
 Hello, I am working just on this now :)
 I am flighting to understand the Gpspy. I use a lot DBus, so I prefer
 to don't use gpsd-fso.

 First thing I have a question:  When I get the first fix this don't
 mean I have the position, is it right? Using Debian, I get the first
 Fix in around 1 Min, but before I get the position I have to wait a
 lot (30 min). Someone has the same problem? I have to add that I never
 update the Debian kernel on my FR.

 I am adding Gps time sync button, and may be a little surprise! :)

 Michele Renda

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-29 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:22:28 +0200
Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I say my situation:
 
  mdbus -s  org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy GetFixStatus
 
 Give me 1 after 30 sec.
 
 But I am unable to take my position for a long time (30 min, 1
 hour) I seem to take a lot of satellites (11 - 12 satellites) but
 no position!

Yes, that is absolutely correct. If you look at
http://folks.o-hand.com/iain/gypsy/reference/html/GypsyDevice.html#GypsyDeviceFixStatus
you can see that 1 means no fix, 2 means 2D fix and 3 3D fix.

Regards,
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-29 Thread Michele Renda
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Daniel Willmann wrote:
 Yes, that is absolutely correct. If you look at
 http://folks.o-hand.com/iain/gypsy/reference/html/GypsyDevice.html#GypsyDeviceFixStatus
 you can see that 1 means no fix, 2 means 2D fix and 3 3D fix.

It was so simple :)

Thank you for the info!

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-29 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michele Renda wrote:
 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
   ... Allowing to start/stop gpsd not only the interface.
 According to linuxtop it's one of the most power consuming process...
 
 Hello Marco
 
 I was thinking to use fso-gpsd or gspy? Which is according you the best way?

If i'm not wrong fso-gpsd is just a wrapper to gspy to make it use the
same gpsd syntax...
So I figure that using gspy could be easier, but with fso-gpsd you could
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-25 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
The tool looks great and I'm 99% sure I'll start using it if/when I
eventually move to debian.

One more that came to my mind: you mentioned mute/volume - how about
ability to easily change the behavior in case of a call or text
message: Full ringing, just a discreet 'beep', vibration on/off and so
on.. And an extension to this would naturally be possibility to change
the ringing tone.

But one problem using the phone as a phone is that I can't have it
easily on but quiet, when needed so this would help fixing this.

Thanks!

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-25 Thread Michele Renda
Hello, I was thinking to make also a dialer for XFCE. I was thinking to make
it as a XFCE applet showing the Signal, Carrier, and when clicked showing a
dialpad.

It down't want to replace Zhone. It is like a more integrated dialer,
without the need to keep the zhone turned on. In this way you can use your
FR as a Palmare without losing the phone functionality.

I will keep the ML informed!
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-25 Thread Fox Mulder
Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 One more that came to my mind: you mentioned mute/volume - how about
 ability to easily change the behavior in case of a call or text
 message: Full ringing, just a discreet 'beep', vibration on/off and so
 on.. And an extension to this would naturally be possibility to change
 the ringing tone.

Isn't this covered by profiles from zhone (or should be covered by it)?

Ciao,
 Rainer

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-25 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
should be, yes! I haven`t tried zhone so I don`t know what it can do..


r

On 9/25/08, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 One more that came to my mind: you mentioned mute/volume - how about
 ability to easily change the behavior in case of a call or text
 message: Full ringing, just a discreet 'beep', vibration on/off and so
 on.. And an extension to this would naturally be possibility to change
 the ringing tone.

 Isn't this covered by profiles from zhone (or should be covered by it)?

 Ciao,
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-25 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag, den 25.09.2008, 09:15 +0200 schrieb Michele Renda:
 Hello, I was thinking to make also a dialer for XFCE. I was thinking
 to make it as a XFCE applet showing the Signal, Carrier, and when
 clicked showing a dialpad.

Good plan! That's what FSo is about. If you have problems with the
framework, please contact us.
 
 It down't want to replace Zhone. It is like a more integrated dialer,
 without the need to keep the zhone turned on. In this way you can use
 your FR as a Palmare without losing the phone functionality.

Feel free to replace Zhone, it was never intended to live that long anyways ;)

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-24 Thread vale

it would be nice, to have more control over gps. to see the status,
satellites, do a warm / cold restart, time to first fix, like in the gps-ui
for openmoko distribution. thats missing in debian and fso :(

but thanks for this great program, can't wait to test it.

best regards

vale





Michele Renda wrote:
 
 Hire wrote:
 WOW very nice :D
 
 Do you can use a distro like damn small linux, installa a minimal xfce
 with
 this interface and put into the NAND instead Microsd?
 
 
 ehh... I think that to do this the distro that you use must to be ported
 to armel4 platform. Until now only debian I know is officially supported
 to this architecture.
 
 I am using DEBIAN (installed with the procedure present in this ML),
 disabling Zhone autostart, and launching xfce-panel. I seem to be good
 enought.
 
 Best regards
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-24 Thread Michele Renda
vale wrote:
 it would be nice, to have more control over gps. to see the status,
 satellites, do a warm / cold restart, time to first fix, like in the gps-ui
 for openmoko distribution. thats missing in debian and fso :(
 

Perfect, I am collecting ideas:

[GPS]
Fix status
Time to fist fix
Warm / Cold restart

and...

Satellite time
button to set the internal clock with satellite time

[Phone]
button to set the internal clock with time token by internet

Thank you for your ideas, would like to see something else?

:)

Michele Renda
 but thanks for this great program, can't wait to test it.
 
 best regards
 
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-24 Thread Peter Neubauer
Mmh,
very nice work indeed! I could think of having different icons for
active/inactive Wifi, BT, Chargins etc so you can skip going into that
section explicitely for only seeing the status and not the details.

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On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello

 I am realizing a setting manager for Freerunner. It is focused to run
 under Debian + XFCE.

 It use PyGtk libraries and Fso framework.

 Please tell to me what would you like to be present in this tool (and
 how to do it :)

 Here you can find some screenshots and the deb package to install it on
 your freerunner:


 http://rubino.dyndns.org/

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-24 Thread vale

yeah more ideas :D

- Power: suspend, shutdown, reboot
- Screen: brightness, touchscreen on/off, rotate
- Sound: volume / mute
- LED control
- Accelereometers: read out data
- Network: show connections (ifconfig)

greetings

bubbas



Michele Renda wrote:
 
 vale wrote:
 it would be nice, to have more control over gps. to see the status,
 satellites, do a warm / cold restart, time to first fix, like in the
 gps-ui
 for openmoko distribution. thats missing in debian and fso :(
 
 
 Perfect, I am collecting ideas:
 
 [GPS]
   Fix status
   Time to fist fix
   Warm / Cold restart
   
   and...
 
   Satellite time
   button to set the internal clock with satellite time
   
 [Phone]
   button to set the internal clock with time token by internet
 
 Thank you for your ideas, would like to see something else?
 
 :)
 
 Michele Renda
 but thanks for this great program, can't wait to test it.
 
 best regards
 
 vale
 
 
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-24 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michele Renda wrote:
 Perfect, I am collecting ideas:
 
 [GPS]
   Fix status
   Time to fist fix
   Warm / Cold restart
   
   and...

... Allowing to start/stop gpsd not only the interface.
According to linuxtop it's one of the most power consuming process...

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-24 Thread Michele Renda
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Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 Hey this looks like a cool tool! A friend made me a simple python to
 run commands so I've added there 5 levels for screen brightness and so
 on, that's useful.

Screen bringtness will arrived in the next version (if you check the
source code you will see that is already implemented, but deactivated!

 But I really like your approach though it's too bad
 it's for Debian only (for those running 200x.x)

I did for debian only for two reasons:

1. I don't know how to do a .ipk package :)
2. I think that FSO has already a more integrated setting manager
3. (ok, are three), it is gtk, and it will be better if it will be efl!


 and yes, please share the source code too.

I just opened a homepage on Launchpad:

https://launchpad.net/sephora

Here there is the last .deb:

https://launchpad.net/sephora/+download

You can get the last source code using

bzr branch lp:sephora

To take the stable version take the tag 0.1

Is someone want to make modification to the source code, I will be very
happy to integrate in the official package.

Enjoy

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-24 Thread Michele Renda
vale wrote:
 yeah more ideas :D
 
 - Power: suspend, shutdown, reboot
 - Screen: brightness, touchscreen on/off, rotate
 - Sound: volume / mute
 - LED control
 - Accelereometers: read out data
 - Network: show connections (ifconfig)

So, here there are the ideas I collected until now ( I divided between
the one I'd like to implement within the next version and the others)

NEXT VERSION:


[GPS]
a.  Fix status / Time to fist fix
b.  Warm / Cold restart
c.  Satellite time (Botton to sync the clock with satellite time)

[Phone]
d.  NTP time (button to sync the clock with NTP server time)

[Screen]
e.  Brightness level
f.  Screen rotate (Ps. someone know if glamo run now under Debian?)



FUTURE VERSION:

[Sound]
Volume / Mute
waiting to know which will be the framework to use in DEBIAN for FR

[USB]
Show a list of attached USB device (when in host mode, like an lsusb)

[Wifi]
Show a list of available wireless network

[Network]
Show a list of interfaces? :)


Please send me others idea / suggestions, they will be very apreciated

Michele Renda

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-24 Thread Michele Renda
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Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
  ... Allowing to start/stop gpsd not only the interface.
 According to linuxtop it's one of the most power consuming process...

Hello Marco

I was thinking to use fso-gpsd or gspy? Which is according you the best way?

Michele Renda


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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-24 Thread Michele Renda
Peter Neubauer wrote:
 Mmh,
 very nice work indeed! I could think of having different icons for
 active/inactive Wifi, BT, Chargins etc so you can skip going into that
 section explicitely for only seeing the status and not the details.

Hello, mmm, you give me a nice idea... but I'd like to undestand
something more. You are refering to the Icons on the left panel, right?
I used until not some gnome-icons, but there are 3 icons that I must to
verify the licence of the icons.

I will think about it!

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 http://rubino.dyndns.org/

Can you put the debian source package online too?

best regards,
Timo Lindfors

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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-23 Thread Hire

WOW very nice :D

Do you can use a distro like damn small linux, installa a minimal xfce with
this interface and put into the NAND instead Microsd?


Michele Renda wrote:
 
 Hello
 
 I am realizing a setting manager for Freerunner. It is focused to run
 under Debian + XFCE.
 
 It use PyGtk libraries and Fso framework.
 
 Please tell to me what would you like to be present in this tool (and
 how to do it :)
 
 Here you can find some screenshots and the deb package to install it on
 your freerunner:
 
 
 http://rubino.dyndns.org/
 
 Best regards
 Michele Renda
 
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-23 Thread Michele Renda
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 http://rubino.dyndns.org/
 
 Can you put the debian source package online too?

Today I will open a project page on Launchpad so you will be able to
download the source code and the tool to create the deb package with a
bzr get. The program is lincensed under GPL 2.

Until then you can take the source code renaming the file from .deb to
.gz and opening it with you prefered archive manager. The program is
sephora.py

I hope you enjoy with it!

 best regards,
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Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed

2008-09-23 Thread Michele Renda
Hire wrote:
 WOW very nice :D
 
 Do you can use a distro like damn small linux, installa a minimal xfce with
 this interface and put into the NAND instead Microsd?
 

ehh... I think that to do this the distro that you use must to be ported
to armel4 platform. Until now only debian I know is officially supported
to this architecture.

I am using DEBIAN (installed with the procedure present in this ML),
disabling Zhone autostart, and launching xfce-panel. I seem to be good
enought.

Best regards
Michele Renda

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