Re: [debian] sid/squeeze on freerunner
hi all, there are some versions of packages (a lot) in sid/squeeze which i'd like to use on my freerunner - does anyone know if there is a simple-ish process for installing either? could the debian install script be adapted to do it? If running debian on freerunner, you may use aptitude or apt-get to install whatever package from sid (or testing, or whatever depending of your apt sources configuration). If not running debian, installing debian packages may or may not work depending on low-level factors, better not to do that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] sid/squeeze on freerunner
2009/6/24 Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org: If running debian on freerunner, you may use aptitude or apt-get to install whatever package from sid (or testing, or whatever depending of your apt sources configuration). yes, but the packages i need require a long chain of dependencies from sid/squeeze, and i don't want to do that - i'll get a broken system very quickly. i'd rather get the whole OS is there way in lenny to reliably upgrade to sid/squeeze? i've heard the idea of changing all instances of 'lenny' to 'sid' in the sources.list file, but that sounds very flaky If not running debian, installing debian packages may or may not work depending on low-level factors, better not to do that. yes, agreed. i investigated that option, but there are some gnarly preinst scripts which rely upon dpkg and all sorts ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] sid/squeeze on freerunner
yes, but the packages i need require a long chain of dependencies from sid/squeeze, and i don't want to do that - i'll get a broken system very quickly. i'd rather get the whole OS is there way in lenny to reliably upgrade to sid/squeeze? Officially, Debian supports only upgrades between stable releases. In practice, you may upgrade part of your system (or the whole system) to testing or unstable at any moment, and most time that works. Although you may have to tune something after upgrade. This is true for whatever debian system, nothing freerunner-specific here. Btw, today's sid works on freerunner ok. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] sid/squeeze on freerunner
Am Dienstag, 23. Juni 2009 14:43:11 schrieb Robin Paulson: i've heard the idea of changing all instances of 'lenny' to 'sid' in the sources.list file, but that sounds very flaky That's exactly the way to go normally although I don't know if you're going to get dependency problems when dist-upgrading to sid. There are packages missing or parts of package groups updated so that the whole bunch isn't installable for some time. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] sid/squeeze on freerunner
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 02:43:11 pm Robin Paulson wrote: is there way in lenny to reliably upgrade to sid/squeeze? i've heard the idea of changing all instances of 'lenny' to 'sid' in the sources.list file, but that sounds very flaky This is the way to go. If you want to keep multiple sources in sources.list, you have to edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and put : APT::Default-Release testing; If you have problem on apt-get update add also this line : APT::Cache-Limit 1; You can also edit /etc/apt/preferences for fine tuning of witch packages to auto-install auto-update… then cat /etc/debian_version to check. -- Vincent MEURISSE ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] sid/squeeze on freerunner
Robin Paulson wrote: yes, but the packages i need require a long chain of dependencies from sid/squeeze, and i don't want to do that - i'll get a broken system very quickly. i'd rather get the whole OS is there way in lenny to reliably upgrade to sid/squeeze? i've heard the idea of changing all instances of 'lenny' to 'sid' in the sources.list file, but that sounds very flaky Yes, if you just change lenny to sid, you should expect a lot of things to break. What you want to learn about is apt-pinning. Google that. You need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list to include both lenny and sid and have an /etc/apt/preferences file that tells apt which packages to pull from lenny and which from sid. The problem will be this long chain of dependencies. Before you even begin, you should investigate exactly what versions of each package will be needed, then in your /etc/apt/preferences file, you can pin each of those packages to sid, keeping lenny as the default for everything else. I assume by long chain you understand that when sid package A requires sid package B you should also check the dependencies of sid package B as it may require further upgrades (and so on...this is what makes it a chain.) In looking into this you may learn that a required dependency isn't in the arm sid repository that freerunner uses and then you will be stuck, but better to learn that in advance than once you have a broken system. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community