Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-18 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:40, Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:35:27 +0100 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote: I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the ext3 partition, and nothing.

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-17 Thread abatrour
A new rootfs has been released. http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-open-sourced-tp1359949p1511876.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-17 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
anyone knows where is the changelog for this new image? i couldn't find it anywhere. abatrour escribió: A new rootfs has been released. http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-17 Thread Rui Castro
Hi, I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Tomas Riveros Schober [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: anyone knows where is the

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-17 Thread Petr Vanek
I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen. the same for me. the partition get's mounted and some data written on it but the screen stays black... i get ping

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-17 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:35:27 +0100 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote: I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen. the same for me. the partition get's

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-10 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Martin Vyšný wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 For those that don't read the kernel ML,

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-05 Thread Pander
On Wed, November 5, 2008 08:17, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: abatrour wrote: OMG it works! I was having the same problem with a black screen after the white flash. I tried formatting the sd card as ext3 and it didn't work. But it worked after i made 2 partitions, both ext3. i am using the

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-05 Thread Alastair Johnson
Pander wrote: On Wed, November 5, 2008 08:17, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: abatrour wrote: OMG it works! I was having the same problem with a black screen after the white flash. I tried formatting the sd card as ext3 and it didn't work. But it worked after i made 2 partitions, both ext3. i

[android] Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-05 Thread Petr Vanek
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:35:59 + Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AJ) wrote: Advice in OM community is to use ext2 on SD cards. Can Android cope with this? Also, can it cope with only one partition? The /init.rc in the android image calls: mount ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-05 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 10:35 +, Alastair Johnson wrote: Pander wrote: On Wed, November 5, 2008 08:17, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote: ... Advice in OM community is to use ext2 on SD cards. Can Android cope with this? Also, can it cope with only one partition? The /init.rc in the

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Denis Galvão
Are you running on Freerunner? Ate least the kernel is up. NMAP give me: SCRIPT ENGINE: Initiating script scanning. Host openmoko (192.168.0.202) appears to be up ... good. Interesting ports on openmoko (192.168.0.202): Not shown: 999 closed ports PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION /tcp open

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Cédric Berger wrote: my u-boot is about 3 weeks old as I can remember... ok, that may be the (a) difference Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:59, Hire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you get a black screen when FR boots? How much time gets fr to boot? I get a black screen, but not for long. Then there is a booting screen with android and two robots... I have no numbers, but looks like total boot time is not

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Thomas Bertani
I have no numbers, but looks like total boot time is not longer than with other distros. on my FR it boots in 70 seconds ca. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Denis Galvão
Could you send us your u-boot version? Thanks, -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 12:00, Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:55, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K Mine (working ok) was

RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)

2008-11-04 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, Maybe it is worth to split away this 'open sourced' Android to its own mailing list to not flood the users of a free software project with this Google stuff? Just my RFC matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching -

Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)

2008-11-04 Thread Denis Galvão
What Android is for you? A closed software? -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 12:50, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, Maybe it is worth to split away this 'open sourced' Android to its

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Pander
Could someone list all the relevant URLs here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions#Images Thanks On Tue, November 4, 2008 14:58, Thomas Bertani wrote: I got it working too. Black screen but if you wait 2 minutes it runs 2008/11/4 Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED]: black screen,

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Benedikt Bär
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build:

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:08, Benedikt Bär [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. Hey Cédric, Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us? (please :P) mmm... not sure were it can be... But I now

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Valerio Valerio
2008/11/4 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:08, Benedikt Bär [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. Hey Cédric, Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us? (please :P)

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Benedikt Bär
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:19 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:08, Benedikt Bär [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. Hey Cédric, Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us?

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Martin Vyšný
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 14:50 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:39, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running on Freerunner? yes. One from the first production batchs. just flashed it via dfu-util (from windows). I have a 8gb SD card inserted (and detected

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread KaZeR
David Samblas a écrit : El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Benedikt Bär
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:28 +, Valerio Valerio wrote: 2008/11/4 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:08, Benedikt Bär [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: Mine (working ok) was

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:28, Valerio Valerio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem should be in the uSd card, some guys in the IRC successfully boot android with the default u-boot from may 08, and all only can do that with the usd card inserted. One of them have this partitions on a 4gb

Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)

2008-11-04 Thread Marcel
At least it's not as open as it could be. (Of course this is Google's software and their decision, but I don't think Android is as open as in free software.) Another suggestion: treat Android like every other distro - prefix threads with [android] and we can filter ourselves. -Marcel Am

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Cédric Berger
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Quasar
It works fine on my FR too, although I faced a problem that might have to do with why it's not working sometimes: when I first started Android, it detected that my battery was empty (I'm pretty sure it's not) and immediately shut down, I tried connecting it to the charger and starting it again,

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K what about the lowlevel? gta02v5_and_up-lowlevel.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 308 Eildert

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Alastair Johnson
KaZeR wrote: David Samblas a écrit : El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version?

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Marcel
Hello android folks :) Could you please prefix your mails with [android] to enable others to filter android related mails? Thank you, Marcel Am Tuesday 04 November 2008 17:03:05 schrieb Quasar: It works fine on my FR too, although I faced a problem that might have to do with why it's not

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:16, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here, but I can ping 192.168.0.202. It worked for me ! I can reach main menu, launch apps... note that here I started without SIM card... will try with it... ___ Openmoko

Re: Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Matthew Lane
I've flashed the android rootfs and uImage and I'm unable to get a boot. I'm using the daily build u-boot and I've tried with 8GB uSD ultra ii and regular. Both result in a blank screen after the white flash. KaZeR wrote: David Samblas a écrit : El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 15:48 +0100, Cédric

Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)

2008-11-04 Thread Marcel
Am Tuesday 04 November 2008 17:17:28 schrieb Jim Ancona: Marcel wrote: At least it's not as open as it could be. (Of course this is Google's software and their decision, but I don't think Android is as open as in free software.) By what definition of free software does Android not

Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)

2008-11-04 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/11/4 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Maybe it is worth to split away this 'open sourced' Android to its own mailing list to not flood the users of a free software project with this Google stuff? Just my personal view... I disagree. I'm not much interested in the Android

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Thomas Bertani
I got it working too. Black screen but if you wait 2 minutes it runs 2008/11/4 Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED]: black screen, with and without SIM card. Cedrid, what did you do to get it going? This is a FR, first batch. ___ Openmoko

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Denis Galvão
Flashing... -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 10:33, Cédric Berger wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-)

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Denis Galvão
Same here, but I can ping 192.168.0.202. -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 04/11/2008, at 10:57, David Samblas wrote: El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 04:46 -0800, Hire escribió: Cédric Berger wrote: On

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 04:46 -0800, Hire escribió: Cédric Berger wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6#

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:39, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running on Freerunner? yes. One from the first production batchs. just flashed it via dfu-util (from windows). I have a 8gb SD card inserted (and detected by android) It looks not so bad ! I could phone my voicemail

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:55, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: black screen, with and without SIM card. Cedrid, what did you do to get it going? This is a FR, first batch. Just flashed downloaded kernel to NAND (dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-android), then rootfs (dfu-util -a

Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)

2008-11-04 Thread Warren Baird
+1 for prefixing with [android] --- treat it like any other distro... On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Neil Jerram [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 2008/11/4 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Maybe it is worth to split away this 'open sourced' Android to its own mailing list to not

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread David Samblas
El mar, 04-11-2008 a las 13:33 +0100, Cédric Berger escribió: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6#

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Thomas Pérennou
Hello list, Mine u-boot is also the latest gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K and I have got black screen to... --- An unlucky user with Bug#1841 2008/11/4 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: RFC: split away 'open sourced' Android in a new mailing list (was: Re: Android open sourced)

2008-11-04 Thread Jim Ancona
Marcel wrote: At least it's not as open as it could be. (Of course this is Google's software and their decision, but I don't think Android is as open as in free software.) By what definition of free software does Android not qualify? Another suggestion: treat Android like every other

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Hire
Cédric Berger wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Hire
Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:16, Denis Galvão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here, but I can ping 192.168.0.202. It worked for me ! I can reach main menu, launch apps... note that here I started without SIM card... will try with it...

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6#

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
black screen, with and without SIM card. Cedrid, what did you do to get it going? This is a FR, first batch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:19, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And now I cannot boot successfully anymore (sometimes it shuts down quite early during boot, sometimes just after android booting screen). Just like if there was not enough battery... I was running connected to usb (but on

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Valerio Valerio
2008/11/4 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:28, Valerio Valerio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem should be in the uSd card, some guys in the IRC successfully boot android with the default u-boot from may 08, and all only can do that with the usd card

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread abatrour
OMG it works! I was having the same problem with a black screen after the white flash. I tried formatting the sd card as ext3 and it didn't work. But it worked after i made 2 partitions, both ext3. i am using the latest uboot on my gta2v5 -- View this message in context:

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-04 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
abatrour wrote: OMG it works! I was having the same problem with a black screen after the white flash. I tried formatting the sd card as ext3 and it didn't work. But it worked after i made 2 partitions, both ext3. i am using the latest uboot on my gta2v5 As I tried- * Must have a SD card

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-02 Thread Thomas Bertani
Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) where are the image's download link? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:58:58 +0100 Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:55 -0400, Jim Ancona wrote: Peter Neubauer wrote: Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! Some more links: Ben Leslie's blog: http://benno.id.au/blog/ Google's

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-02 Thread Martin Vyšný
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 17:42 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:58:58 +0100 Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:55 -0400, Jim Ancona wrote: Peter Neubauer wrote: Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! Some more

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-02 Thread David Samblas
El dom, 02-11-2008 a las 17:42 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke escribió: On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:58:58 +0100 Martin Vyšný [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:55 -0400, Jim Ancona wrote: Peter Neubauer wrote: Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that!

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
IIUC it doesn't use X11. But can it run in one virtual console while X11 runs in another? Stefan PS: Waiting for it to appear in Debian. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-02 Thread Leonti Bielski
What about the input method? Does it have a virtual keyboard of some kind? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-02 Thread David Samblas
not yet El lun, 03-11-2008 a las 08:35 +0100, Leonti Bielski escribió: What about the input method? Does it have a virtual keyboard of some kind? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-28 Thread Peter Neubauer
Hi there, is there any progress on the porting of Android to the FR yet? Are updates posted to this list, since it seems pretty quite around the port? Cheers /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-28 Thread nick d.
Sign up to Koolu's forum [1] and see what's going on there. Cfriedt also has a spreadsheet of progress that seems to have been updated frequently [2]. Last time I check there were a few to go but now, not so much. See also [3]. Nick 1. http://forum.koolu.org/ 2.

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-28 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM, KaZeR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Lippmann a écrit : Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb Lorn Potter: Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-28 Thread Peter Neubauer
Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-28 Thread Jim Ancona
Peter Neubauer wrote: Thanks for the fast reply, will keep an eye on that! Some more links: Ben Leslie's blog: http://benno.id.au/blog/ Google's android-porting mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting Jim ___ Openmoko

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-27 Thread Joerg Lippmann
Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb Lorn Potter: Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected. Oh I know it will

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-25 Thread Kishore
On Wednesday 22 Oct 2008 10:16:55 pm Andy Selby wrote: Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. 4.3 is usable as a daily

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-25 Thread Jay Vaughan
At last maybe we will get a stable, usable O/S for the Neo (which I have shelved until such a thing exists). I was using Qt but QtExtended was a step backwards in stability. I am very happy to see Android available for development, I may un-shelve my Neo blow off the dust and help port

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-24 Thread Vasco Névoa
Citando Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. I've been using ASU (OM2008.9) since the

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-23 Thread Nishit Dave
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wednesday 22 Oct 2008 4:38:31 am Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will always be

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Jimenez
Nishit Dave wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 23:21, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was on IRC and someone said they had already ported the kernel, and was working on a forum, just FYI. We should all coordinate so there are not 10 different porting efforts :) Also see thread on kernel list where Sean McNeil

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Lech Karol Pawłaszek
Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! ;-) patches are on their way according to this: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-October/005966.html Hooray to the FLOSS.

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Minh Ha Duong
According to http://koolu.com/ Koolu Beta port of Android for Freerunner will be available to download for existing Freerunner owners and installed on phones for sale in November 2008. And they have been working at it for months. -- Minh ___

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:43:00PM -0600, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: people who I do not have their number memorized and it is almost impossible to text via finger on 200x.x. I would love to see a good keyboard, reliable SMS and phone calls, at that point I'll be more than satisfied

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:43:00PM -0600, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: people who I do not have their number memorized and it is almost impossible to text via finger on 200x.x. I would love to see a good keyboard, reliable SMS and phone calls, at that

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Stroller
On 21 Oct 2008, at 19:52, Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! At last maybe we will get a stable, usable O/S for the Neo (which I have shelved until such a thing

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Kishore
On Wednesday 22 Oct 2008 4:38:31 am Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected. Oh I know

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Hire
http://forum.koolu.org/ Register to get a patchset and a kernel pacthed for FR -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-open-sourced-tp1359949p1364565.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Paul
Hire wrote: http://forum.koolu.org/ Register to get a patchset and a kernel pacthed for FR Downloading the stuff now. Although I am still trying to find out what to do with the patch-set ;-) So pointers are appreciated! Paul -- Saying nothing... sometimes says the most. -Emily

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Andy Selby
Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. 4.3 is usable as a daily phone for me (YMMV),rock solid suspend and resume, no dialer

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/10/22 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 03:23:56PM -0700, Jim Morris wrote: No magic, I suspect the kernel will be the same, and have potentially the same bugs, however I think the apps will be more stable. Exactly! this is a tipical scenario showing

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-22 Thread Previdi Roberto
my 2 cents: if the porting of android will need the intervention of the low level developers this shouldn't be done. the kernel coders need all the time they need to understand and optimize the low level code. if meanwhile there are other developers who feel they can handle the port it could be

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Paul
Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Now that would be cool... Paul -- Time's fun when you're having flies. -Kermit the Frog http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Sam Kuper
2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jan Prinsloo
WHO :) Let the games begin! On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Didier Raboud
Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Hey... it says open-source (you can read the code) not free software (you can do whatever you want)... http://code.google.com/android/terms.html

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread rakshat hooja
Quoting a mail we received sometime ago from Koolu Koolu presently supplies other distributors globally for Openmoko Freerunners. Due to this volume we can provide lower prices and value add. In November 2008 we start shipping Freerunner with Android pre installed and supported as an option

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 17:48, Didier Raboud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Hey... it says open-source (you can read the code) not free software (you can

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread flamma
Hey... it says open-source (you can read the code) not free software (you can do whatever you want)... I don't know why when some people read open-source they understand open to read but not open to modify. Android is released under Apache License version 2, which is considered free software

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Ancona
Didier Raboud wrote: Hey... it says open-source (you can read the code) not free software (you can do whatever you want)... It appears to be Open Source in the sense that it uses OSI-approved licenses, Apache 2.0 for most code, GPL for kernel patches. Note that both of those licenses are

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Tuesday 21 October 2008 11:33:40 you wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Tarandeep Gill
What my belief is that the Linux license means that anyone who obtains a copy of the Linux Kernel in binary form, irrespective of how they obtained that copy, has a right to the source code used to build that exact Linux kernel binary. Derivative works of the Linux kernel also fall into this

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Ancona
Tarandeep Gill wrote: What my belief is that the Linux license means that anyone who obtains a copy of the Linux Kernel in binary form, irrespective of how they obtained that copy, has a right to the source code used to build that exact Linux kernel binary. Derivative works of the Linux kernel

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Morris
Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! At last maybe we will get a stable, usable O/S for the Neo (which I have shelved until such a thing exists). I was using Qt but QtExtended was a

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Fredrik Wendt
tis 2008-10-21 klockan 17:48 +0200 skrev Didier Raboud: Cédric Berger wrote: You have to grant your copyright to Google... This is because of yow copyright works, it's the same with GNU so _that_ part really shouldn't hurt if Google had chosen a FOSS style license ... / Fredrik signature.asc

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