Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
In our geeky daily life we are able to access to Wikipedia anywhere 
(home, work, transport), on high-res full color devices (computer, 
phones...).
Because hi-tech and Internet/Phone are everywhere.

This device gives you :
- offline access to Wikipedia
- on a cheap device (it could be cheaper if the company were bigger I 
presume)
- which uses AAA batteries, available anywhere in the world.

We (US/EU/Jap) almost don't care about these 3 points, so I can 
understand the omg fuck**g useless I've already got a wikipedia apps on 
my iPhone, with images, colors and ponnies!.

But (IMHO) this device represents a new way to distribute Wikipedia.

Let's see the existing ones :
- a computer + internet : you need electricity, phone, Internet, a 
computer (+ knowledge to use it)
- a computer + dvd : the same but you have removed the phone/Internet 
dependency
- a smartphone (with or without provider) + an ebook reader software : 
usually naked phone are a bit costly, but it could be cheaper than a 
computer. You will need specific batteries when yours will die.
- a true ebook reader : ~= smartphone+software but easier to use I 
presume (I don't know if there is an existing ebook reader able to read 
Wikipedia but it seems a good solution)
- a real book (still a good way, maybe a bit heavy because of Wikipedia 
size)

The wikireader :
- AAA batteries
- 3 buttons, and supposedly easy to use
- open soft and hard (I presume), sturdy

Ok this is the english version of wikipedia and it is sold in US/EU/Jap 
(not the best market for it), but it's not *that* bad for a start : 
geeks make you earn a bit of cash, and could start tweaking the 
device... (ebook reader feature someone ?)

Xavier Cremaschi.


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Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
Xavier Cremaschi a écrit :
 Ok this is the english version of wikipedia and it is sold in US/EU/Jap 
 (not the best market for it), but it's not *that* bad for a start : 
 geeks make you earn a bit of cash, and could start tweaking the 
 device... (ebook reader feature someone ?)

 Xavier Cremaschi.
   
Source code is already available, and tweaking will actualy start when 
first devices will be shipped.
French community already find that keyboard is bitmap and so some 
pictures should be displayed on device...
It's a start, but such an interest for a product that nobody never 
touched, We can imagine what it can become.

Moreover, it's the opensource philosophy that is spreading : A new 
open product will arrive on the market, and lots of *hackers* wonder how 
they can improve it, and what they can turn it in  !

If it's not a big step for Openmoko, it's a great step for free humanity !
AstHrO

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Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
As read on slashdot :
[...]
at those kind of power usage levels, you could hack a small solar cell 
into it and it should work anywhere you've got sunlight. Imagine a 
complete breakdown of civilization as we know it. Books are heavy and 
inconvenient and make good kindling. Without electricity, compact 
digital forms of information retrieval become impossible. What do we use 
to rebuild civilization after a couple generations of this send us back 
to the dark ages? This thing.
[...]

:P


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Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/10/15 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com:
 As read on slashdot :
 [...]
 at those kind of power usage levels, you could hack a small solar cell
 into it and it should work anywhere you've got sunlight. Imagine a
 complete breakdown of civilization as we know it. Books are heavy and
 inconvenient and make good kindling. Without electricity, compact
 digital forms of information retrieval become impossible. What do we use
 to rebuild civilization after a couple generations of this send us back
 to the dark ages? This thing.
 [...]

 :P
LOL, other situation, you suddenly pass trough a ripping in the
time-continuous and apear in the early middle ages...but luckily have
your Solar hacked WikiReader  with you... You can becoume the next
Merlin the sorcerer!!! better don't appear in there at least in Spain
or you will be burned as heretic before it boots. :P


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Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
As I see the wikireader becoming interested for different groups of funs.

1. Hitch hacker guide to the galaxy. DON'T PANIC
2. Fallout (pip-boy!)
3. Jeremiah (TV series) (exactly about situation from slashdot)

Who can continue? :) ...

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Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-15 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Xavier Cremaschi
omega.xav...@gmail.com wrote:
 As read on slashdot :
 [...]
 at those kind of power usage levels, you could hack a small solar cell
 into it and it should work anywhere you've got sunlight. Imagine a
 complete breakdown of civilization as we know it. Books are heavy and
 inconvenient and make good kindling. Without electricity, compact
 digital forms of information retrieval become impossible. What do we use
 to rebuild civilization after a couple generations of this send us back
 to the dark ages? This thing.
 [...]

 :P

http://xkcd.com/208/

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Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-14 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/10/13 William Lai w...@openmoko.com:
 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
 maxpose...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, all!

 First of all, my congratulations with releasing mystical Project B !


 Thank you all for the continuing support.
 We're really excited about today.


 Wikireader looks awesome, and I think most interested question for all
 openmoko community now is:

 How to buy WikiReader?

 Looks like amazon doesn't ship this device to all countries. (why?!).


 It all comes down to price.  It's just too expensive for you (outside the
 US) and we didn't think it was worth the rush.  Paying $85 USD for a $99
 dollar device isn't exactly helpful.  We're working on getting more devices
 and of course global shipping as well.  We'll definitely  post something
 once that is available.  Stay tuned to hear from us within the next week.


 Could you explain your view about delivery, and country statuses,
 where you ship, and where not, and if not, when you will.


 Right now we ship to US and Canada only.  Amazon didn't allow us to set
 independent shipping rates for various countries.  It only offers a fixed
 rate for 'outside US' and 'Asia'.  That would mean $85 to the UK and $85 to
 Mexico -- not fair.

 As for me, it is interesting how to deliver this device to Belarus)


 I'm just as interested at this point.. please stay tuned.

 Regards
 Will

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Hi all,
OM has enabled the international shipping, it will take 10-20 days and
there is no track number,  I want a unit ASAP to test/review/hack
myself and post about it and to be able to show it at conferences and
any one who lives near and want to see it.
Will has tell me to post the real time to delivere on the list and
thats's what I will do :) I have place the order today 14th October at
8:00AM the total payment including shipping is 118.20 $ (spanish
custom taxes pending).
OM still has not a distributor policy but as soon they have it(and if
we agree :P) I will buy a couple of Wikireaders to sell, stay tunned
to know how long and how much

David Reyes Samblas Martinez
http://www.tuxbrain.com
Open ultraportable  embedded solutions
Openmoko, Openpandora,  Arduino
Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!!

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Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-14 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
David Reyes Samblas Martinez a écrit :
 I have place the order today 14th October at
 8:00AM the total payment including shipping is 118.20 $ (spanish
 custom taxes pending).


Regarding eur-$ conversion rate these days it seems pretty cool !
FYI France doesn't put custom taxes on electronic devices so the big 
equation for me should be :
 [US price (HT) + shipping port + VAT (20.6%)] * 0.67

(^^)


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Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-14 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
maxpose...@gmail.com wrote:
 and I think most interested question for all
 openmoko community now is:

I think the most interested question is:
What are they smoking?

Seriously guys, any ebook reader is way more advanced then this
WikiReader, and it is not suited for the job at all.
It does not support colored images, or images at all.

And reading the general feedback on the web (engadget, two other local
sites), almost all of the commenters find this device a joke. I
couldnt read *one* positive feedback from them.

In plus, evopedia was not generating too much interests either. And I
do think evopedia is much more advanced than this *dedicated* device.

At least implement offline wiktionary.org, to be able to promote as a
replacement for electronic dictionary devices.

Sorry for my harsh comment, but my bad joke just came true:

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Laszlo:
 I even found the first prototype;)
 http://www.rob-matthews.com/index.php?/project/wikipedia/


I truly hope, Im wrong here, and I wish you success!

Best regards,
 Laszlo

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Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-13 Thread William Lai
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau 
maxpose...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, all!

 First of all, my congratulations with releasing mystical Project B !


Thank you all for the continuing support.
We're really excited about today.



 Wikireader looks awesome, and I think most interested question for all
 openmoko community now is:

 How to buy WikiReader?

 Looks like amazon doesn't ship this device to all countries. (why?!).


It all comes down to price.  It's just too expensive for you (outside the
US) and we didn't think it was worth the rush.  Paying $85 USD for a $99
dollar device isn't exactly helpful.  We're working on getting more devices
and of course global shipping as well.  We'll definitely  post something
once that is available.  Stay tuned to hear from us within the next week.



 Could you explain your view about delivery, and country statuses,
 where you ship, and where not, and if not, when you will.


Right now we ship to US and Canada only.  Amazon didn't allow us to set
independent shipping rates for various countries.  It only offers a fixed
rate for 'outside US' and 'Asia'.  That would mean $85 to the UK and $85 to
Mexico -- not fair.


As for me, it is interesting how to deliver this device to Belarus)


I'm just as interested at this point.. please stay tuned.


Regards
Will
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Re: Buy WikiReader [was: WikiReader]

2009-10-13 Thread William Lai
All,
I spent the whole morning trying to get international fixed-rates from USPS
for global shipping, but there is a downside, as there always is:

a)  standard shipments can take 10-20 days
b)  there are NO tracking numbers provided by USPS

The flat rate is $18.95 usd.  I think this is especially reasonable compared
to some of the prices in UPS (those of you who bought phones from us in the
beginning know exactly what I'm talking about).  These rates are available
now and Sean tells me we just updated the site so:

http://thewikireader.com/store

Help yourself :)
And when you DO buy one, please make sure to post back to this list the
actual time it took you to get your package.  That would help everyone out a
lot on actual shipping times.  Again, thanks for not being patient and
kicking our butts when something's missing.


Cheers,
Will



On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:33 AM, William Lai w...@openmoko.com wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau 
 maxpose...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, all!

 First of all, my congratulations with releasing mystical Project B !


 Thank you all for the continuing support.
 We're really excited about today.



 Wikireader looks awesome, and I think most interested question for all
 openmoko community now is:

 How to buy WikiReader?

 Looks like amazon doesn't ship this device to all countries. (why?!).


 It all comes down to price.  It's just too expensive for you (outside the
 US) and we didn't think it was worth the rush.  Paying $85 USD for a $99
 dollar device isn't exactly helpful.  We're working on getting more devices
 and of course global shipping as well.  We'll definitely  post something
 once that is available.  Stay tuned to hear from us within the next week.



 Could you explain your view about delivery, and country statuses,
 where you ship, and where not, and if not, when you will.


 Right now we ship to US and Canada only.  Amazon didn't allow us to set
 independent shipping rates for various countries.  It only offers a fixed
 rate for 'outside US' and 'Asia'.  That would mean $85 to the UK and $85 to
 Mexico -- not fair.


 As for me, it is interesting how to deliver this device to Belarus)


 I'm just as interested at this point.. please stay tuned.


 Regards
 Will



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