RE: Current status, and previous Community Updates: wiki page

2007-11-01 Thread thomas.cooksey
I've created a wiki page to consolidate the current status, and provide

a place for you to add questions and topics you'd like to see
addressed.

I've added a section on the SMedia 3362. Most of my questions have been
answered off-list by OpenMoko people (thanks!): There will be no 3D on
the GTA02 despite the hardware being there. :-( This is because there
are no drivers.

However, a while back Harald did mention the sMedia 3362 documentation
would be made available to the community. Any chance of chasing: a) When
b) What the documentation will consist of - will it be sufficient for a
community member to have a go at writing a 3D driver?


Cheers,

Tom


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Re: Current status, and previous Community Updates: wiki page

2007-11-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:46:51 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 I've created a wiki page to consolidate the current status, and provide
 
 a place for you to add questions and topics you'd like to see
 addressed.
 
 I've added a section on the SMedia 3362. Most of my questions have been
 answered off-list by OpenMoko people (thanks!): There will be no 3D on
 the GTA02 despite the hardware being there. :-( This is because there
 are no drivers.
 
 However, a while back Harald did mention the sMedia 3362 documentation
 would be made available to the community. Any chance of chasing: a) When
 b) What the documentation will consist of - will it be sufficient for a
 community member to have a go at writing a 3D driver?

as it stands right now - the documents are confidential (thus nda), but any
drivers as a result of this are able to be open. this is currently the problem.
that means we (openmoko) need to write the drivers - and thus we suffer from
the limited resources problem and priorities internally that will decide what
we do. i am unable to comment one way or another (don't know) about opening up
the docs. it may be possible in the future once we have proven to have the
basic 2d accel drivers working and a community working to help improve what is
there etc.. but for now 3d isn't really an option. i would love to comment on
its abilities but can't.

remember - what is available on gta-02 release and what may come over time is
also different. initial release won't have opengl - but if time and effort
prevail it may come later.

-- 
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Current status, and previous Community Updates: wiki page

2007-11-01 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 01 November 2007, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
 as it stands right now - the documents are confidential (thus nda), but any
 drivers as a result of this are able to be open. this is currently the
 problem. that means we (openmoko) need to write the drivers - and thus we
 suffer from the limited resources problem and priorities internally that
 will decide what we do. i am unable to comment one way or another (don't
 know) about opening up the docs. it may be possible in the future once we
 have proven to have the basic 2d accel drivers working and a community
 working to help improve what is there etc.. but for now 3d isn't really an
 option. i would love to comment on its abilities but can't.

Maybe the Linux Driver Project could help. They've been grumbling about not 
having enough work to keep everyone occupied lately.

http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/devices_lacking_linux_support_needed.html
http://www.linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view

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Re: Current status, and previous Community Updates: wiki page

2007-10-31 Thread John Morrison
On Wed, October 31, 2007 8:18 pm, Michael Shiloh wrote:
 I've created a wiki page to consolidate the current status, and provide
 a place for you to add questions and topics you'd like to see addressed.
 I've also created a page for each previous Community Update, for
 reference.

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates

One thing that I would like to suggest is that any time you reference a
relative date you qualify it with the date you added the comment to the
wiki.

For example, you say

GTA02v3 is quite solid, but a flaw in power distribution required another
revision. A very small number of GTA02v4 have been manufactured.
Evaluation by internal OpenMoko engineers should start any day now.

Any day when?  It is very difficult for people who just peruse the wiki to
know how old the information is - any day now might have been years ago :)

GTA02v3 is quite solid, but a flaw in power distribution required another
revision. A very small number of GTA02v4 have been manufactured.
Evaluation by internal OpenMoko engineers should start any day now. (31
Oct 2007)

would be clearer IMO.

J.


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Re: Current status, and previous Community Updates: wiki page

2007-10-31 Thread Michael Shiloh



John Morrison wrote:


One thing that I would like to suggest is that any time you reference a
relative date you qualify it with the date you added the comment to the
wiki.



Good point. Done.

Michael

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Re: Current status, and previous Community Updates: wiki page

2007-10-31 Thread Mark Arvidson
I suggest using the signing tool ().
--sagacis

On 10/31/07, John Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, October 31, 2007 8:18 pm, Michael Shiloh wrote:
  I've created a wiki page to consolidate the current status, and provide
  a place for you to add questions and topics you'd like to see addressed.
  I've also created a page for each previous Community Update, for
  reference.
 
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates

 One thing that I would like to suggest is that any time you reference a
 relative date you qualify it with the date you added the comment to the
 wiki.

 For example, you say

 GTA02v3 is quite solid, but a flaw in power distribution required another
 revision. A very small number of GTA02v4 have been manufactured.
 Evaluation by internal OpenMoko engineers should start any day now.

 Any day when?  It is very difficult for people who just peruse the wiki to
 know how old the information is - any day now might have been years ago :)

 GTA02v3 is quite solid, but a flaw in power distribution required another
 revision. A very small number of GTA02v4 have been manufactured.
 Evaluation by internal OpenMoko engineers should start any day now. (31
 Oct 2007)

 would be clearer IMO.

 J.


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