Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-04 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:58:10 Tim Newsom wrote: Or how about this... Cases from recycled materials.. Neo1973.. Free your phone, open your horizons, save the world... Good for you, great for the environment. Swiss PET recycling organization currently has a campaign like that: Don't throw

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread ramsesoriginal
First they wil lthink that it's a rip-off of the iPod customisation. Then they will think that it's not useful, not functional, only thrown-away money. Then they will see how cool it looks at their buddy's neo, and will buy one for themselves ;) On 7/3/07, Tim Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Frederic Kettelhoit
cool idea! I want to have one with the GNU logo on the back. :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Hans van der Merwe
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 16:52 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: First they wil lthink that it's a rip-off of the iPod customisation. Then they will think that it's not useful, not functional, only thrown-away money. Then they will see how cool it looks at their buddy's neo, and will buy one for

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread no_use
Hans van der Merwe schrieb: On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 16:52 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: Some of the guys here at work (actually most of them) seem to hate the rounded sides/corners of the phone - any plans maybe on making it rectangular? ps. Im an engineer - I dont care what it looks like

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Tim Newsom
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 8:59, no_use wrote: these are exactly the reactions i got from my friends.. specially as the mainbord seems rectangular, i wouldn't like to see it with this rounded top and bottom.. ..and all i want is 3G.. :( So add case design ideas to the wiki where previously noted.

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, On 7/3/07, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Case modding for phones, cool. Maybe we should have like transparent (see-through) casing. Why do we need closed cases for open hardware and software? SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Maybe we should have like transparent (see-through) casing. Ah, but transparent plastic is always more brittle than coloured plastics... I would hate my Neo cracking as easily as a CD case... On Tuesday 03 July 2007 11:35:57 Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, On 7/3/07, Ben Burdette [EMAIL

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread adrian cockcroft
I've been designing cases for the homebrew mobile club, posting the design files on the wiki and producing them on a 3D printer. http://www.hbmobile.org/wiki/index.php?title=Portrait_oriented_case I can get these individually made for $40 or so each at http://www.techshop.ws a custom case for

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Tim Newsom
There are several types of clear plastic which could be used to fulfill this idea.. Both as plastic injection and liquid casting material. --Tim On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 9:50, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, On 7/3/07, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Case modding for phones, cool. Maybe we

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Tim Newsom
That's not necessarily true.. Look at plastic bottles. Clear soda bottles are fairly strong and not nearly as brittle as some other clear plastics. Plus, that plastic is useful as injection material. Plus, if it were cheap enough to get new cases, most people would not care if they dropped

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Clear soda bottles are fairly strong and not nearly as brittle as some other clear plastics. True enough, and i stand corrected. Their flexibility may even be a benefit -- i drop my current phone often enough and it survives; i would hope for something similar on my Neo when I get it.

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Matthew S. Hamrick
Oh... but doesn't PETN have some issues with long-term durability when exposed to UV? On Jul 3, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Jeffrey Thomas wrote: Clear soda bottles are fairly strong and not nearly as brittle as some other clear plastics. True enough, and i stand corrected. Their flexibility may

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Michael Welter
I would be very interested in a tamper-proof case with separate branding. For phones given to low-wage employees and/or teenagers, this is a requirement (tamper proof meaning seals would have to be broken to open the case). Etching on the back of the case would include reward/delivery

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Al Johnson
If you're exposing your phone to that much UV you'll probably have problems with other components before the case. PET transparent enough to UV that it's the bottle of choice for solar water disinfection. http://www.sodis.ch/Text2002/T-Howdoesitwork.htm On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:48, Matthew

Re: Custom case designs... (the business perspective)

2007-07-03 Thread Matthew S. Hamrick
Also.. to follow up on what Adrian recently said.. The tech shop also has a CNC milling machine. I'm no expert, but I believe that the idea is that you put a CAD file in one side and take out a completed part out the other. So... if you have the CAD files for a case, you could feed them

Re: Custom case designs...

2007-07-03 Thread Matthew S. Hamrick
Yup. And as Tim points out, if the case only lasts a year, recycle it and get a new one. On Jul 3, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Al Johnson wrote: If you're exposing your phone to that much UV you'll probably have problems with other components before the case. PET transparent enough to UV that it's

Re: Custom case designs... (the dot-org perspective)

2007-07-03 Thread Matthew S. Hamrick
But there's another way to think about this... I think if you ran these numbers past a business person in the states they would have all sorts of problems. You're talking about a fair amount of investment for not all that much return. I mean if we knew the Neo was going to sell as many

Re: Custom case designs... (the business perspective)

2007-07-03 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
So... the question is... a) is it possible to convince Nathan or Gordon to sell these things through their websites for $65 - $147? I can sell it through my website: http://www.handheld-linux.com although I currently focus on the European markets only (due to tax and duty complexity).

Re: Custom case designs... (the business perspective)

2007-07-03 Thread Robin Paulson
Is it legal to sell these cases? The design may be based in no small part on work done by FIC, who will not be impressed by us stamping on their IP. We don't want to take the piss - they are helping us a lot. Making a few one-offs for ourselves, with no profit is ok, but as soon as we start

Re: Custom case designs... (the business perspective)

2007-07-03 Thread Tim Newsom
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:56, Matthew S. Hamrick wrote: Also.. to follow up on what Adrian recently said.. The tech shop also has a CNC milling machine. I'm no expert, but I believe that the idea is that you put a CAD file in one side and take out a completed part out the other. So... if you

Re: Custom case designs... (the business perspective)

2007-07-03 Thread Tim Newsom
Note... I did ask about permission and we were told to wait on discussing with official personel till phase 2 of the phone. So scanning the actual case and building a knockoff would (in my opinion and until I am corrected by FIC / Sean or other person with some authority) be a violation of