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2008/7/19 Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not everyone uses a decent MUA! I use gmail, which does allow not filter on arbitrary headers. So I filter on TO and CC addresses. Yes it does. Has Words: listid:community.lists.openmoko.org I thought that was only for the body content. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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If your going to quote the email your replying to, please reply above the quotation. Please dont top-post use inline replying and trim the quoted part to the relevant one. Its hard enough wading through 300 emails a day without having to page down to see the reply. Its hardest go down and search to what part of the miriad of messges quoted after your reply. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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imho the number of people adverse to top postings equals more or less the number of people being annoyed by down-postings. just recently i got mail over 4 pages (with a screen 19200x1200 and 11px font!) with just one (and above all rather meaninmgless) sentence below. ususally i know from the subject and a short glance a) what the thread was about or b) if i am inclined to read the mail. this top/down is not going to solve anything ... there are imho two rules to be observed instead: - use meaningful subjects - quote only what is absolutely necessary and btw: for the sake of future generations and the archive: _never_ do something like oh! i found a solution! it's here: http://someoutsideurl. bye there is little more annoying but searching the archives for a specific problem, hitting a solved-post and seeing it points to a dead link w/o citing the solution! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi arne, imho the number of people adverse to top postings equals more or less the number of people being annoyed by down-postings. I thin both groups of people wat realy hate is full previous message, including all signatures, quoting. just recently i got mail over 4 pages (with a screen 19200x1200 and 11px font!) with just one (and above all rather meaninmgless) sentence below. Most of those have a previous messege where the sentence us missing just to make your day. :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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this top/down is not going to solve anything ... there are imho two rules to be observed instead: - use meaningful subjects - quote only what is absolutely necessary Agreed. One more thing I like with other mailing lists. They start their subjects with a token describing their mailing lists in square brackets. This allow to quickly sort / filter the incoming mails. Examples: [jQuery],[Qemu-devel], [ECOS], [Rtai], [vlc] It would be nice to see the Openmoko mailing list use something like: [OpenMoko], [OM] or [FR] // Yocto ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Yocto wrote: One more thing I like with other mailing lists. They start their subjects with a token describing their mailing lists in square brackets. This allow to quickly sort / filter the incoming mails. Examples: [jQuery],[Qemu-devel], [ECOS], [Rtai], [vlc] It would be nice to see the Openmoko mailing list use something like: [OpenMoko], [OM] or [FR] Check the headers: List-Id: List for Openmoko community discussion community.lists.openmoko.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/7/19 Paul Bohme [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Check the headers: List-Id: List for Openmoko community discussion community.lists.openmoko.org Even if your MUA doesn't let you filter on that header, you should be able to filter on the TO or CC address, which will include [EMAIL PROTECTED] That said, do trim and inline- (or bottom-) post. See my sig. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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arne anka wrote: imho the number of people adverse to top postings equals more or less the number of people being annoyed by down-postings. just recently i got mail over 4 pages (with a screen 19200x1200 and 11px font!) with just one (and above all rather meaninmgless) sentence below. ususally i know from the subject and a short glance a) what the thread was about or b) if i am inclined to read the mail. Agreed. this top/down is not going to solve anything ... there are imho two rules to be observed instead: - use meaningful subjects - quote only what is absolutely necessary A little common sense and curtsy, go along way. and btw: for the sake of future generations and the archive: _never_ do something like oh! i found a solution! it's here: http://someoutsideurl. bye there is little more annoying but searching the archives for a specific problem, hitting a solved-post and seeing it points to a dead link w/o citing the solution! A third must have rule should be; don't be lazy start a new thread. Top/Bottom might annoy some people, but thread-jacking has a lasting consequence. It really is an irksome practice. Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:17 AM, matt joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A third must have rule should be; don't be lazy start a new thread. Top/Bottom might annoy some people, but thread-jacking has a lasting consequence. It really is an irksome practice. Thread-jacking is annoying in the same way using vi is annoying. That's why I use emacs. -Charles (just kidding) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Sa 19. Juli 2008 schrieb Yocto: One more thing I like with other mailing lists. They start their subjects with a token describing their mailing lists in square brackets. This allow to quickly sort / filter the incoming mails. Examples: [jQuery],[Qemu-devel], [ECOS], [Rtai], [vlc] It would be nice to see the Openmoko mailing list use something like: [OpenMoko], [OM] or [FR] Aaw, no! not this one again! Please have a look at full expanded header of your mails! filter for mailing-list, not subject. All decent MUAs allow to do this. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/7/19 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It would be nice to see the Openmoko mailing list use something like: [OpenMoko], [OM] or [FR] Aaw, no! not this one again! Please have a look at full expanded header of your mails! filter for mailing-list, not subject. All decent MUAs allow to do this. Not everyone uses a decent MUA! I use gmail, which does allow not filter on arbitrary headers. So I filter on TO and CC addresses. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not everyone uses a decent MUA! I use gmail, which does allow not filter on arbitrary headers. So I filter on TO and CC addresses. Right... Select a message and click the little down arrow next to reply, then click 'filter messages like this'. Problem Solved. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not everyone uses a decent MUA! I use gmail, which does allow not filter on arbitrary headers. So I filter on TO and CC addresses. Yes it does. Has Words: listid:community.lists.openmoko.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:58:00 -0400 Yocto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more thing I like with other mailing lists. They start their subjects with a token describing their mailing lists in square brackets. This allow to quickly sort / filter the incoming mails. Examples: [jQuery],[Qemu-devel], [ECOS], [Rtai], [vlc] It would be nice to see the Openmoko mailing list use something like: [OpenMoko], [OM] or [FR] // Yocto No, don't do that. That just makes the subject line more noisy while actually adding zero extra information as you can already sort by using the from field. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Not everyone uses a decent MUA! I use gmail, which does allow not filter on arbitrary headers. So I filter on TO and CC addresses. Yes it does. Has Words: listid:community.lists.openmoko.org What about the OpenMoko 'Messages' applications ?:) From the qemu emulator image, it doesn't... ( yet? ) Having a token in the subject help manual (not auto) filtering. // Yocto ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
