Re: FDOM and GPRS?

2009-01-27 Thread Margo Koppelmann
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Steffen Winkler steffen.li...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 is it possible to use GPRS with the current FDOM image?

 If yes: Is there a GUI or do I have to adjust the config files by hand?

 If I've to adjust the config files by hand, is there a howto? (which
 files and what do I've to edit there)


The current FDOM image - you mean FDOM 20081023? I don't know about
that (because it had so many problems and bugs, that I flashed back to
FDOM 20080927 right after trying 20081023), but in FDOM 20080927 it
was easy to get GPRS working. I followed the instructions here -
http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#GPRS . FDOM already
has gsm0710muxd installed, so you have to start from where it says:
The files needed are  I just copied these files to my phone,
changed mobile.o2.co.uk in chat-gprs file to my GPRS providers
address and started the connection with ./pppd-start and later killed
the connection with killall -15 pppd. Probably you can install some
GUI too, but I didn't think it is nessecary. If you don't want to
start it from command line, just make two .desktop files - one for
pppd-start and one for killall -15 pppd.

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Re: FDOM and GPRS?

2009-01-26 Thread Tim Dobson
Steffen Winkler wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is it possible to use GPRS with the current FDOM image?

I don't know :-/ I have been trying for a while... I'm not sure whether 
it is the software versions and bugs, phone network doing silly things 
or the stupid user stopping it working.

 If yes: Is there a GUI or do I have to adjust the config files by hand?

You need to adjust the config files by hand.You can start it from GUI 
from the services panel, once it is configured.

 If I've to adjust the config files by hand, is there a howto? (which
 files and what do I've to edit there)

I don't think so. I've been looking for a modern OM 2008.XX GPRS howto 
for a long time and none exist really as far as I know.

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RE: [fdom] Re: [n00b] Sound not working?

2009-01-15 Thread Darby, Robin
I've not gotten to the state where I've been able to upload files (other than 
flashing the kernel/root fs) yet!
I was assuming that using the dialer would emit noise.
Not using headphones, assuming the internal speakers should do something.
Don't think it's OS related since I couldn't get anything out of it using the 
factory installed OM7.2 (?) either.

Thanks
Robin...

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Subject: [fdom] Re: [n00b] Sound not working?

how do you check?
- headphones, speakerphone, speaker?
- start the mixer of your choice (aumix or alsamixer should be availiable)  
and pull controls up
- check if your sound emitting program produces errors
- try to load another state file manually

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Re: [fdom] Re: [n00b] Sound not working?

2009-01-15 Thread arne anka
 I was assuming that using the dialer would emit noise.

care to elaborate? what kind of noise?
what happens if you call your voicebox?

 Not using headphones, assuming the internal speakers should do something.
 Don't think it's OS related since I couldn't get anything out of it  
 using the factory installed OM7.2 (?) either.

are you sure, you're doing it right?

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RE: [fdom] Re: [n00b] Sound not working?

2009-01-15 Thread Darby, Robin
Okay, forgive me if this is just really dumb; but usually when you use a phone, 
pressing a number on the dialer (hardware numbers on the front or software app. 
(i.e. iphone dialer)) will emit a dial tone corresponding (according to some 
magical logic) to the number?
I get no sound out of the thing whatsoever, not when I dial, not when it's 
ringing (?) - nothing.
I'm trying to ascertain if I've been sent a dud (i.e. the sound chip doesn't 
work) or if it's just a software thing.
Can someone tell me if there is a simple way to make the thing emit a noise 
(any noise); or is there some daemon in the os which I need to start or 
something?

Thanks
Robin...  

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Subject: Re: [fdom] Re: [n00b] Sound not working?

 I was assuming that using the dialer would emit noise.

care to elaborate? what kind of noise?
what happens if you call your voicebox?

 Not using headphones, assuming the internal speakers should do something.
 Don't think it's OS related since I couldn't get anything out of it  
 using the factory installed OM7.2 (?) either.

are you sure, you're doing it right?

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Re: [fdom] Re: [n00b] Sound not working?

2009-01-15 Thread Dylan Reilly
I think FDOM has mplayer in it. You can try running mplayer [path to
media file] from a terminal.

The command alsamixer (terminal again) will bring up all the audio
controls you can modify. If you are running this from the device
itself it can be hard to see. Regardless, Look to see if the
Headphone and PCM (first and either controls, respectively) are
very high. The volume does not scale logically on the openmoko and
anything less than 80% on each may be hard to hear.

Maybe your device thinks you have headphones plugged into it. If so,
so sound will come out of the built-in stereo speakers. Try the
command:
amixer -d sset Amp Spk unmute
to make sound from from them.

As far as I remember, the dialer programs do not make noise when you
press the buttons.

FDOM may have navit (a car navigational program) installed by default.
If so, it tends to steal your audio device and not give it back. Try
killall speech-dispatcher and then /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm
restart (the latter will restart the GUI). If that works, I can tell
you how to disable speech dispatcher by default.

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Darby, Robin robin...@amazon.co.uk wrote:
 Okay, forgive me if this is just really dumb; but usually when you use a 
 phone, pressing a number on the dialer (hardware numbers on the front or 
 software app. (i.e. iphone dialer)) will emit a dial tone corresponding 
 (according to some magical logic) to the number?
 I get no sound out of the thing whatsoever, not when I dial, not when it's 
 ringing (?) - nothing.
 I'm trying to ascertain if I've been sent a dud (i.e. the sound chip doesn't 
 work) or if it's just a software thing.
 Can someone tell me if there is a simple way to make the thing emit a noise 
 (any noise); or is there some daemon in the os which I need to start or 
 something?

 Thanks
Robin...

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 Subject: Re: [fdom] Re: [n00b] Sound not working?

 I was assuming that using the dialer would emit noise.

 care to elaborate? what kind of noise?
 what happens if you call your voicebox?

 Not using headphones, assuming the internal speakers should do something.
 Don't think it's OS related since I couldn't get anything out of it
 using the factory installed OM7.2 (?) either.

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Re: [FDOM] cannot save attachments in qtmail email application

2008-12-03 Thread Gerard_2009


okay, it seems like nobody knows an answer to my question. let me ask it
differently.

is there an e-mail client for FDOM that i can use including attachments?
(that can save attachments of e-mails on the phone) ?

thanks for your help
Gerard


Gerard_2009 wrote:
 
 
 FDOM
 email account in the qtmail/messages application. ... 
 
 problem I cannot save attachments.
 
 When I click on the attachment, I can than click on Add to documents but
 i always end up with the error message:
 
 Please ensure that there is space available for Documents
 
 my / is on the internal storage and i got 100.6 MB available
 
 i checked in the   /home/root/Applications   but didnt find a setting and
 chmoding the content to 777 didnt bring anything
 
 also in .config  i didnt find a setting for the save path...
 

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Re: [FDOM] Ye olde no sound after resume

2008-11-17 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I installed FDOM 20081023 but there is no sound.
|
| Any idea?

If you are booting from Qi, you need a version from yesterday or later
to get audio working.

http://people.openmoko.org/andy has binaries for Qi and stable-tracking
kernels.

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Re: [FDOM] ePDFViewer

2008-11-16 Thread Tim Dobson
Crossposted to Fdom-developement

Giovanni wrote:
 Today I installed FDOM 20081023.
 
 When I open ePDFViewer, it asks for a password, saying that the 
 documented is encrypted.
 I cannot open any of my documents, because of this problem.

this is a bug I have been meaning to report for a while now.

 How to fix this?

The issue arises because I think the launching dialog launches it with 
an %s argument or something which specifies the path of the file that 
should be loaded. because it apparently can't deal with no being able to 
  find the file gracefully, it aassumes something is encrypted and asks 
for a password.

Launching from the terminal epdfviewer works fine...

fixing this *should* (in theory) be trivial, however I don't know, 
without looking exactly how to do this...

Tim

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Re: [FDOM] ePDFViewer

2008-11-16 Thread Chaosspawn23
Hi there!

 Crossposted to Fdom-developement
 
 Giovanni wrote:
 Today I installed FDOM 20081023.

 When I open ePDFViewer, it asks for a password, saying that the 
 documented is encrypted.
 I cannot open any of my documents, because of this problem.
 
 this is a bug I have been meaning to report for a while now.
 
 How to fix this?
 
 The issue arises because I think the launching dialog launches it with 
 an %s argument or something which specifies the path of the file that 
 should be loaded. because it apparently can't deal with no being able to 
   find the file gracefully, it aassumes something is encrypted and asks 
 for a password.
 
 Launching from the terminal epdfviewer works fine...
 
 fixing this *should* (in theory) be trivial, however I don't know, 
 without looking exactly how to do this...

Editing /usr/share/FDSubmenu/viewers/epdfview.desktop and changing

epdfview %f

to

epdfview

should do the trick. :)
On a completely unrelated note - someone should change the way FDSubmenu calls
applications, as the current implementation freezes fdsubmenu until the started
process terminates - I think using subprocess.Popen should work, but I haven't
really looked that closely at the source, yet.

HtH,
Konstantin

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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-11-13 Thread Margo Koppelmann
Yes, I had already read your instructions, but I thought there's some easier
way to simply enter the AT%SLEEP=2 command. But I tried your scripts now and
it seems to work. Thanks. I'm using FDOM and gsm0710muxd was already
installed.



On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Tom Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Margo Koppelmann wrote:

  I'm sorry, i'm so stupid, but I don't understand what does mean I used
  AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM. How do i use it? Where do I write it?

 *assuming you're using 2008.08, 2008.09 or FDOM, and that you have
 gsm0710muxd installed and running* (this may be true by default on FDOM),
 my instructions and noddy little chat script at
 http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Calypso may be helpful.

 if you don't have gsm0710muxd installed (and qpe configured to use it),
 these instructions will be of no use.


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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-11-13 Thread heat



Yes, I had already read your instructions, but I thought there's some easier
way to simply enter the AT%SLEEP=2 command. But I tried your scripts now and
it seems to work. Thanks. I'm using FDOM and gsm0710muxd was already
installed.

echo -e AT%SLEEP=2  /dev/ttySAC0


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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-11-12 Thread Margo Koppelmann
I'm sorry, i'm so stupid, but I don't understand what does mean I used AT%
SLEEP=2 with FDOM. How do i use it? Where do I write it?



On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I can't use my FR because of bug #1024.

 Few days ago i flashed qtopia 4.3.2 and patched it with Mwester work (
 http://moko.mwester.net/brc.html); it was quite good but I don't like
 qtopia ...

 I started Reading

 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024

 and

 http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Calypso.

  I used AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM
 (Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.tar.gz and
 Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and now it works even better than qtopia
 (IMHO). In more than 12 hours and 1 reboot (to reproduce the experiment - I
 didn't believe it) no re-registering, receiving call (resume after suspend)
 and making call 100%.

 I don't know if it's the good work of FDOM guys or anything else, ... but
 after today intensive tests I start thinking of FR as a really usable phone
 !!

 For anyone interested in ...

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Re: [FDOM] No desktop laucher icons after update to testing

2008-11-12 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Yogiz schrieb:
 Hi,

 I used the latest FDOM, added the desting feed and did an opkg
 upgrade but now all the launchers are missing although the .desktop
 files still exist in /usr/share/applications. Any idea how to fix it?

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sounds like the problem in the 2008.9 testing tree.
look into the thread with the subject no icons in 2008.testing maybe 
it helps.

http://openmoko.markmail.org/search/?q=no%20icons%202008%20testing#query:no%20icons%202008%20testing+page:1+mid:ylxa4jl3w7sn2ndw+state:results

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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-11-12 Thread Tom Yates
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Margo Koppelmann wrote:

 I'm sorry, i'm so stupid, but I don't understand what does mean I used
 AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM. How do i use it? Where do I write it?

*assuming you're using 2008.08, 2008.09 or FDOM, and that you have 
gsm0710muxd installed and running* (this may be true by default on FDOM), 
my instructions and noddy little chat script at 
http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Calypso may be helpful.

if you don't have gsm0710muxd installed (and qpe configured to use it), 
these instructions will be of no use.


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Re: [FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility

2008-11-04 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:57:27 +0100 Bastiaan Hovestreydt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
 Hi,

 since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-)
 I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is
 in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS
 variable in /etc/X11/Xserver.
 Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to
 show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change
 the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't
 have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again.
 
 basically - no. there is no x extension or call to globally make a cursor not
 visible or visible. thus it's a cmd-line option. you can make an attempt at
 this in the window manager by setting root cursor to blank or visible BUT
 amny apps and toolkits explicitly set cursors of their own on their own 
 windows
 or on their widgets (eg a different cursor over text areas) and the root 
 cursor
 is overridden here - thus the global disable option to not have to go patching
 every app/toolkit and still possibly get a cursor.

What about setting a transparent cursor by default allowing to change
theme (to a non-transparent cursor) on-the-fly?


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Re: [FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility

2008-11-04 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:31:26 +0100 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:57:27 +0100 Bastiaan Hovestreydt
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
  
  Hi,
 
  since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-)
  I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is
  in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS
  variable in /etc/X11/Xserver.
  Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to
  show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change
  the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't
  have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again.
  
  basically - no. there is no x extension or call to globally make a cursor
  not visible or visible. thus it's a cmd-line option. you can make an
  attempt at this in the window manager by setting root cursor to blank or
  visible BUT amny apps and toolkits explicitly set cursors of their own on
  their own windows or on their widgets (eg a different cursor over text
  areas) and the root cursor is overridden here - thus the global disable
  option to not have to go patching every app/toolkit and still possibly get
  a cursor.
 
 What about setting a transparent cursor by default allowing to change
 theme (to a non-transparent cursor) on-the-fly?

as i said -apps and toolkits often explicitly set their own cursor - the root
cursor won't get inherited and thus u see whatever the app set instead of
blank. that is why the cmd-line options exists to force it always to be off :/

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Re: [FDOM] opkg install pidgin fails with 'An error occured, return value: 2.'

2008-10-30 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/10/31 Tim Churchard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 So my questions are:  What's happened for opkg to give a return 2?  And
 where should my /etc/opkg/*conf files be pointing?

i'm pretty sure that means it isn't found in the repo, at least under that name

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RE: [FDOM] opkg install pidgin fails with 'An error occured, return value: 2.'

2008-10-30 Thread Matthias Camenzind

Try this: 
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/pidgin_2.2.1-r0_armv4t.ipk
or add Angstrom Repository to your opkg source: 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories#Angstrom_Repository
adding repository should be the better way, cause after you can install also 
some plugins with opkg.
Else manually load from 
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/

 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:38:17 +1300
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; community@lists.openmoko.org
 Subject: Re: [FDOM] opkg install pidgin fails with 'An error occured, return 
 value: 2.'
 
 2008/10/31 Tim Churchard :
 So my questions are:  What's happened for opkg to give a return 2?  And
 where should my /etc/opkg/*conf files be pointing?
 
 i'm pretty sure that means it isn't found in the repo, at least under that 
 name
 
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RE: [FDOM] opkg install pidgin fails with 'An error occured, return value: 2.'

2008-10-30 Thread David Samblas
be carefull, if you add the angstrom repo  opkg will  try to upgrade
some core libraries of the system like dbus or gtk, this will put FDOM
and any 2008.X in a even more unestable state :)
El jue, 30-10-2008 a las 21:49 +, Matthias Camenzind escribió:
 Try this: 
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/pidgin_2.2.1-r0_armv4t.ipk
 or add Angstrom Repository to your opkg source: 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories#Angstrom_Repository
 adding repository should be the better way, cause after you can install also 
 some plugins with opkg.
 Else manually load from 
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/
 
  Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:38:17 +1300
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; community@lists.openmoko.org
  Subject: Re: [FDOM] opkg install pidgin fails with 'An error occured,   
  return value: 2.'
  
  2008/10/31 Tim Churchard :
  So my questions are:  What's happened for opkg to give a return 2?  And
  where should my /etc/opkg/*conf files be pointing?
  
  i'm pretty sure that means it isn't found in the repo, at least under that 
  name
  
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Re: [FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility

2008-10-29 Thread Pander
Calibration tool in QtExtended can set a cursor, have a look there how
that is done.

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:57:27 +0100 Bastiaan Hovestreydt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
 Hi,

 since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-)
 I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is
 in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS
 variable in /etc/X11/Xserver.
 Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to
 show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change
 the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't
 have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again.
 
 basically - no. there is no x extension or call to globally make a cursor not
 visible or visible. thus it's a cmd-line option. you can make an attempt at
 this in the window manager by setting root cursor to blank or visible BUT
 amny apps and toolkits explicitly set cursors of their own on their own 
 windows
 or on their widgets (eg a different cursor over text areas) and the root 
 cursor
 is overridden here - thus the global disable option to not have to go patching
 every app/toolkit and still possibly get a cursor.
 


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Re: [FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility

2008-10-29 Thread Alexander Chemeris
QtExtended does not use X11 - it use framebuffer instead.


On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Calibration tool in QtExtended can set a cursor, have a look there how
 that is done.

 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:57:27 +0100 Bastiaan Hovestreydt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hi,

 since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-)
 I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is
 in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS
 variable in /etc/X11/Xserver.
 Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to
 show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change
 the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't
 have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again.

 basically - no. there is no x extension or call to globally make a cursor not
 visible or visible. thus it's a cmd-line option. you can make an attempt at
 this in the window manager by setting root cursor to blank or visible BUT
 amny apps and toolkits explicitly set cursors of their own on their own 
 windows
 or on their widgets (eg a different cursor over text areas) and the root 
 cursor
 is overridden here - thus the global disable option to not have to go 
 patching
 every app/toolkit and still possibly get a cursor.



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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

2008-10-28 Thread Pander
What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data
about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate
why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up.


Leonti Bielski wrote:
 I think something is lowing down FDOM, maybe this is gestures daemon
 (someone at some point said it eats a lot of CPU power)?
 And another thing - it takes years to login via ssh to Freerunner with FDOM.
 With other distributions I just enter 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]', press Enter and immediately press Enter
 when it asks for password.
 But with FDOM I actually have to wait till it gives me password promt.
 This happens not only with the lates distribution but with all FDOM I tried.
 But I still use sometimes to check for new things available for Freerunner.
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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

2008-10-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data
 about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate
 why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up.

top?

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Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)

2008-10-28 Thread Richy
I haven't missed any calls yet.
However, when i suspend manually (pressing the power button)
and want to  wake the phone up manually, it turns on for half a second and
than off again. I always need to press the power button again.
(Also, it doesn't seem to make much difference)

qtextended an one mwester-kernel had standby-time of several days, if you
never turn on wifi

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Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)

2008-10-28 Thread Kishore
On Tuesday 28 Oct 2008 1:43:09 pm Richy wrote:
 qtextended an one mwester-kernel had standby-time of several days, if you
 never turn on wifi

My experience matches this and it gives me hope that it is indeed possible to 
make the FR battery last longer. Typically, with about 10-15 mins of talking 
per day, I loose about one bar for 24 hrs! Sot that's about 3 to 4 days of 
battery life! But then sometimes (just sometimes) that it does not suspend 
automatically and battery drains rapidly. There is no way to manually suspend 
the FR (without the CLI) and reboot is the only way to set that straight. If 
you turn on wifi once, it appears that it does not really turn off ever until a 
reboot and again battery drains rapidly.

I find qtextended very usable as a daily phone; now only if it would default to 
headset instead of speaker phone when answering calls... :(
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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

2008-10-28 Thread Pander
I mean short interval and non disturbing logging top while doing normal
phone functions. Looking at top in a terminal and testing phone functions
do not go together easily. Any ideas?

On Tue, October 28, 2008 09:09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data
 about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate
 why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up.

 top?

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Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)

2008-10-28 Thread Marcel
Oh. So that's why qtopia always loses that data. I thought it was related to 
reflashing and wondered why, because it has it's db on the sd card... *g*

Marcel

Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 00:53:59 schrieb W.Kenworthy:
 because when the phone suspends you lose calls/sms messages ...

 BillK

 On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 17:36 +0100, Marcel wrote:
  Why do you all turn off suspend?
  I can clearly understand (and I do this also) that autosuspend is a mess
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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

2008-10-28 Thread David Samblas
Use top on a ssh sesion on a externa pc conected trough usb
El mar, 28-10-2008 a las 11:56 +0100, Pander escribió:
 I mean short interval and non disturbing logging top while doing normal
 phone functions. Looking at top in a terminal and testing phone functions
 do not go together easily. Any ideas?
 
 On Tue, October 28, 2008 09:09, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
  On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  What simple ananlysis could be started in a terminal to gather data
  about what is eating what during usage? These results should indicate
  why FDOM is s slow and what should be done to speed it up.
 
  top?
 
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Re: [FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility

2008-10-28 Thread Pander
Bastiaan Hovestreydt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-)
 I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is
 in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS
 variable in /etc/X11/Xserver.
 Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to
 show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change
 the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't
 have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again.

I'd like to add: And when possible make this available as a checkbox in
one of the configuration menus. Thanks, PAnder

 
 
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Re: [FDOM] Mouse cursor visibility

2008-10-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:57:27 +0100 Bastiaan Hovestreydt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hi,
 
 since its possible I want to use my Freerunner with an USB mouse :-)
 I got it working flawlessly by plugging the mouse in while the phone is
 in host mode and removing the -hide-cursor argument from the ARGS
 variable in /etc/X11/Xserver.
 Unfortunately you have to restart your Xserver each time you want to
 show/hide the mouse cursor. I was wondering if there is a way to change
 the visibility of the cursor while the Xserver is running so I don't
 have to reboot every time I want to get rid of the cursor again.

basically - no. there is no x extension or call to globally make a cursor not
visible or visible. thus it's a cmd-line option. you can make an attempt at
this in the window manager by setting root cursor to blank or visible BUT
amny apps and toolkits explicitly set cursors of their own on their own windows
or on their widgets (eg a different cursor over text areas) and the root cursor
is overridden here - thus the global disable option to not have to go patching
every app/toolkit and still possibly get a cursor.

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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-27 Thread heat



William Kenworthy wrote:
 
 My mistake - but then why are you saying its working?  2008.8/9 cant
 even make reliable phone calls and constantly loses/delays sms messages
 - hardly working ..., and no updates
 
Didn't have much testing on sms messages, but my FR can call and receive ...


William Kenworthy wrote:
 
 Perhaps you are mixing testingskernel with 2008.9?
 
No.


William Kenworthy wrote:
 
 Testing looks nice, but as I have no audio in qtopia (mplayer works) I
 cant make phone calls.
 
... never tried testing, I have to buy a better SD before ...

Just a question about calls:
have you applied mwester trick as described in Ticket #1024 ? of course
you don't have to patch OM2008.8/9 with mwester tar.gz, I think it's only
for qtopia 4.3.2  your FR seems to be very similar to
my_FW_before_the_trick 

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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-27 Thread Tom Yates
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, William Kenworthy wrote:

 My mistake - but then why are you saying its working?  2008.8/9 cant
 even make reliable phone calls and constantly loses/delays sms messages
 - hardly working ..., and no updates

i know me-toos are unhelpful, but i have to agree with Heat.  i'm now 
happy with 2008.09 stable; it does everything i need it to do in order to 
be my regular GSM phone *after i apply a few simple fixes*, one of which 
is the AT%SLEEP=2 fix for bouncing calypso on each reboot.  none of my 
test calls has failed to get through since then.

i agree that sometimes inbound texts don't wake the phone up, but they 
always seem to be sitting on the screen (a new text message has arrvied, 
read now?) when i wake the 'phone up, so it may be that i just miss the 
beep when they arrive.  certainly, the old bouncing-calypso behaviour, 
where i had to send a flushing SMS through twice a day to ensure that i 
got any other SMSes that had come through when the modem was deep- 
sleeping, is gone.

the 'phone's definitely good enough for day-to-day use now, at least for 
me.  i think my wife agrees, as she seems to be using hers most of the 
time now, instead of her old nokia. the full list of what i've done is, as 
ever, at http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html .

i'd still like the headset to work automatically, and knowing that the 
AT%N0187 echo-cancelling fix was being automatically applied *every call* 
(so i can crank the gsmhandset.state speaker volume) would be useful. 
but unlike bouncing calypso, i can live with those, at least _pro tem_.


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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-27 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
David Samblas wrote:
 Marc, those it need to update the modules too?

Well, if you use them yes. I've not made a package with them since I
generally don't use extra modules :P

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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-27 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
I did the mwester and then booted and untarred the mwester modules and
rebooted.  It has been stable (with suspend turned off), although the
battery life on mine seems to be just a few hours between being plugged in
(without usage).

I'm going to monitor it today to see if I can get a more precise
measurement.  So far its been about 1 hr and its only down 1 bar from full.
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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-27 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Wow, so 3.5 hours into the battery test and its down to 1 bar.




On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 I did the mwester and then booted and untarred the mwester modules and
 rebooted.  It has been stable (with suspend turned off), although the
 battery life on mine seems to be just a few hours between being plugged in
 (without usage).

 I'm going to monitor it today to see if I can get a more precise
 measurement.  So far its been about 1 hr and its only down 1 bar from full.





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suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)

2008-10-27 Thread Marcel
Why do you all turn off suspend?
I can clearly understand (and I do this also) that autosuspend is a mess if 
you're just playin round in ssh and the phone suspends all the time. But it 
basically _works_ if you want it to, doesn't it?

I'm asking because I hear this everywhere and suspend works perfectly for me 
since quite some time, just wondering...

-Marcel

Am Monday 27 October 2008 14:58:39 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe:
 I did the mwester and then booted and untarred the mwester modules and
 rebooted.  It has been stable (with suspend turned off), although the
 battery life on mine seems to be just a few hours between being plugged in
 (without usage).

 I'm going to monitor it today to see if I can get a more precise
 measurement.  So far its been about 1 hr and its only down 1 bar from full.

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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

2008-10-27 Thread julien cubizolles
Le lundi 27 octobre 2008 à 18:09 +0100, Paul a écrit :
  Hi, I've just installed this latest FDOM on the SDCard. I was previously
  using QtopiaExtended and I can't help but notice that Qtopia seems to
  run faster. For example, with FDOM, I have to wait 5s after a start the
  Dialer application before I can enter a phone number. Am I the only one
  experiencing that ?

 
 I think the difference is that FDOM is written mostly in Python, which 
 is an interpreted language, whereas Qte is written in C(++?) which is 
 compiled. Compiled stuff usually is faster.

The dialer application is not written in python, is it ? It seems to me
the same as in qtopia.


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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-27 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Wow, so 3.5 hours into the battery test and its down to 1 bar.


So the final result was 4.0 hours from full charge to 0 bars and then
plugged in back in at 5 hrs...
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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-27 Thread Paul

 Wow, so 3.5 hours into the battery test and its down to 1 bar.


 So the final result was 4.0 hours from full charge to 0 bars and then 
 plugged in back in at 5 hrs...

Did you leave the display on constantly? I have played around with stuff 
like that, and making sure the display dims/blanks after not too long 
saves a lot of battery power.

Just curious...
Paul

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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

2008-10-27 Thread Leonti Bielski
I think something is lowing down FDOM, maybe this is gestures daemon
(someone at some point said it eats a lot of CPU power)?
And another thing - it takes years to login via ssh to Freerunner with FDOM.
With other distributions I just enter 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]', press Enter
and immediately press Enter when it asks for password.
But with FDOM I actually have to wait till it gives me password promt.
This happens not only with the lates distribution but with all FDOM I tried.
But I still use sometimes to check for new things available for Freerunner.
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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

2008-10-27 Thread Denis Galvão
Trying adding the freerunner FDOM IP to your /etc/hosts file with an  
alias.

For example:
192.168.0.202 freerunner

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On 27/10/2008, at 17:18, Leonti Bielski wrote:

 And another thing - it takes years to login via ssh to Freerunner  
 with FDOM.
 With other distributions I just enter 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]',  
 press Enter and immediately press Enter when it asks for password.
 But with FDOM I actually have to wait till it gives me password promt.
 This happens not only with the lates distribution but with all FDOM  
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Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)

2008-10-27 Thread W.Kenworthy
because when the phone suspends you lose calls/sms messages ...

BillK

On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 17:36 +0100, Marcel wrote:
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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

2008-10-27 Thread nick d.
Denis is right. It's trying to do a reverse DNS lookup. This plauges all
incorrectly configured linux distros. At least every so often on any one I
use.

Gestures daemon does use a bit but only 5% I believe. Just check with top. I
turn it off anyway as I don't use it at the moment:

update-rc.d -f gesd-neo2 remove

I think...
-Nick

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think something is lowing down FDOM, maybe this is gestures daemon
 (someone at some point said it eats a lot of CPU power)?
 And another thing - it takes years to login via ssh to Freerunner with
 FDOM.
 With other distributions I just enter 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]', press
 Enter and immediately press Enter when it asks for password.
 But with FDOM I actually have to wait till it gives me password promt.
 This happens not only with the lates distribution but with all FDOM I
 tried.
 But I still use sometimes to check for new things available for Freerunner.
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Re: Fdom speed (was Re: New home for the New FDOM)

2008-10-27 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:16:10 +1000, nick d. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Denis is right. It's trying to do a reverse DNS lookup. This plauges all
 incorrectly configured linux distros. At least every so often on any one
I
 use.
 
 Gestures daemon does use a bit but only 5% I believe. Just check with
top.
 I
 turn it off anyway as I don't use it at the moment:
 
 update-rc.d -f gesd-neo2 remove
 
 I think...
 -Nick
 
 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 I think something is lowing down FDOM, maybe this is gestures daemon
 (someone at some point said it eats a lot of CPU power)?
 And another thing - it takes years to login via ssh to Freerunner with
 FDOM.
 With other distributions I just enter 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]', press
 Enter and immediately press Enter when it asks for password.
 But with FDOM I actually have to wait till it gives me password promt.
 This happens not only with the lates distribution but with all FDOM I
 tried.
 But I still use sometimes to check for new things available for
 Freerunner.
 Leonti


To overcome the rDNS delay try adding 192.168.0.200 omhost or something
similar to /etc/hosts.  So when an SSH connection comes in from
192.168.0.200 it doesn't drop to DNS lookup but defers to the /etc/hosts
file.


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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-26 Thread William Kenworthy
Are icons etc back?

BillK

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 10:13 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 25 October 2008, you wrote:
 
 For anyone interested in ...
 
 Update:
 
 testing now on OM2008.8 (Om2008.8-gta02-20081025.rootfs.jffs2 +
 Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and seems working ...
 
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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-26 Thread Alex Oberhauser
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:03:38PM -0400, Geoff Ruscoe wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Fabian Henze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  What about this one:
  http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=stable
 
 
 I like the way you think!  That would be great.
 
 Are you saying you are using this one?  And you can ssh through usb and make
 phone calls and use gps, etc?
 
 So what did you do about the modules for this kernel?  How do you setup a
 system to get the right modules for this kernel?

I use also the actual kernel (linux-2.6.24_stable-54524f4531c8b2624) and it
works also here all stuff well (wireless works not always, but better than
with older kernels).

Here I have written a short tutorial [1], please tell me if there are errors
or stuff which could be described better, so I can fix it.

mfg

Alex

[1] http://devnull.networld.to/tutorials/freerunner/flashing_kernel.php


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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-26 Thread William Kenworthy
For info, the site at ref[1] looks a shocker in firefox!  Almost
unreadable fonts and dark colours on black are not a good choice ... or
look!

BillK

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 11:38 +0100, Alex Oberhauser wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:03:38PM -0400, Geoff Ruscoe wrote:
  On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Fabian Henze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   What about this one:
   http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=stable
  
  
  I like the way you think!  That would be great.
  
  Are you saying you are using this one?  And you can ssh through usb and make
  phone calls and use gps, etc?
  
  So what did you do about the modules for this kernel?  How do you setup a
  system to get the right modules for this kernel?
 
 I use also the actual kernel (linux-2.6.24_stable-54524f4531c8b2624) and it
 works also here all stuff well (wireless works not always, but better than
 with older kernels).
 
 Here I have written a short tutorial [1], please tell me if there are errors
 or stuff which could be described better, so I can fix it.
 
 mfg
 
 Alex
 
 [1] http://devnull.networld.to/tutorials/freerunner/flashing_kernel.php
 
 
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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-26 Thread heat


Are icons etc back?

UH?  


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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-26 Thread William Kenworthy
There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no
simple fix.  

Ive just lost another sms on 2008.9 so I am going to try testing anyway.
Looking forward to blow away 2008.9 just so I can let it know what I
think of its reliability :)

BillK

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 03:08 -0700, heat wrote:
 
 Are icons etc back?
 
 UH?  
 
 
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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-26 Thread Alasal

Yes icons are back!!

For the glory details: I've made a new status review about the 'base' image
on my blog (that's on the planet)
http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/openmoko-base-image-status-review.html


William Kenworthy wrote:
 
 There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no
 simple fix.  
 
 Ive just lost another sms on 2008.9 so I am going to try testing anyway.
 Looking forward to blow away 2008.9 just so I can let it know what I
 think of its reliability :)
 
 BillK
 
 On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 03:08 -0700, heat wrote:
 
 Are icons etc back?
 
 UH?  
 
 
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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-26 Thread William Kenworthy
Yep, the icons are there.  The settings dialog starts for me, but I am
still installing stuff.

For the keyboard stuff, did you do anything in particular??

Have not been able to register yet - been about 15 minutes and 3 reboots
so far.

BillK



On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 04:44 -0700, Alasal wrote:
 Yes icons are back!!
 
 For the glory details: I've made a new status review about the 'base' image
 on my blog (that's on the planet)
 http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/openmoko-base-image-status-review.html
 
 
 William Kenworthy wrote:
  
  There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no
  simple fix.  
  
  Ive just lost another sms on 2008.9 so I am going to try testing anyway.
  Looking forward to blow away 2008.9 just so I can let it know what I
  think of its reliability :)
  
  BillK
  
  On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 03:08 -0700, heat wrote:
  
  Are icons etc back?
  
  UH?  
  
  
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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-26 Thread Alasal

Nope, I just did everything on
http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/getting-started-with-base-image.html

William Kenworthy wrote:
 
 Yep, the icons are there.  The settings dialog starts for me, but I am
 still installing stuff.
 
 For the keyboard stuff, did you do anything in particular??
 
 Have not been able to register yet - been about 15 minutes and 3 reboots
 so far.
 
 BillK
 
 
 
 On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 04:44 -0700, Alasal wrote:
 Yes icons are back!!
 
 For the glory details: I've made a new status review about the 'base'
 image
 on my blog (that's on the planet)
 http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/openmoko-base-image-status-review.html
 
 
 William Kenworthy wrote:
  
  There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and
 no
  simple fix.  
  
  Ive just lost another sms on 2008.9 so I am going to try testing
 anyway.
  Looking forward to blow away 2008.9 just so I can let it know what I
  think of its reliability :)
  
  BillK
  
  On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 03:08 -0700, heat wrote:
  
  Are icons etc back?
  
  UH?  
  
  
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No usb on base/20081026 (was: Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated)

2008-10-26 Thread Marcel
In your review you state that 1. there is some new illume theme, which I 
cannot see for now (looks like 2008.8).
Also I can't seem to ssh in - although the usb network interface shows up on 
my pc, but the neo does not respond to pings or ssh attempts. Anything you 
know about this?
Maybe I just try tomorrow's build. :)

-Marcel

Am Sunday 26 October 2008 12:44:43 schrieb Alasal:
 Yes icons are back!!

 For the glory details: I've made a new status review about the 'base' image
 on my blog (that's on the planet)
 http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/openmoko-base-image-status-review.htm
l

 William Kenworthy wrote:
  There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no
  simple fix.
 
  Ive just lost another sms on 2008.9 so I am going to try testing anyway.
  Looking forward to blow away 2008.9 just so I can let it know what I
  think of its reliability :)
 
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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-26 Thread heat

There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no
simple fix.  

Misunderstanding ??

I said I was testing the official release of OM (what you find in
http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/) ... not the testing
release of OM ...

However I think this should be ok even with testing ... 
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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-26 Thread William Kenworthy
My mistake - but then why are you saying its working?  2008.8/9 cant
even make reliable phone calls and constantly loses/delays sms messages
- hardly working ..., and no updates

Perhaps you are mixing testingskernel with 2008.9?

Testing looks nice, but as I have no audio in qtopia (mplayer works) I
cant make phone calls.

Looks like the dependencies in testing are broken as it seemed to miss
many libs so I installed them manually but must have missed one.

Have to go back to it later - SIM is back in the treo as I am expecting
a phone call :(

BillK


On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 06:43 -0700, heat wrote:
 There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no
 simple fix.  
 
 Misunderstanding ??
 
 I said I was testing the official release of OM (what you find in
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/) ... not the testing
 release of OM ...
 
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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-26 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto:
 So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see
 what kernel I should use with it.
 
 Is there a best kernel to go with it?

If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches
 (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo
speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy...

Bye!

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http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture.bin

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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-26 Thread David Samblas
Marc, those it need to update the modules too?
El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 00:47 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
escribió:
 Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto:
  So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see
  what kernel I should use with it.
  
  Is there a best kernel to go with it?
 
 If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches
  (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo
 speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy...
 
 Bye!
 
 [1]
 http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture.bin
 
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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-26 Thread Pander
Hi Geeoff,

How does this relate to mwebster's kernel
http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html

Which one is more stable, latest and greatest?

Thanks,

Pander

David Samblas wrote:
 Marc, those it need to update the modules too?
 El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 00:47 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
 escribió:
 Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto:
 So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see
 what kernel I should use with it.

 Is there a best kernel to go with it?
 If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches
  (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo
 speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy...

 Bye!

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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-25 Thread Marcel
Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe:
 So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what
 kernel I should use with it.

 Is there a best kernel to go with it?

 Thanks

I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well.

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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-25 Thread Pander
On Sat, October 25, 2008 16:26, Marcel wrote:
 Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe:
 So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see
 what
 kernel I should use with it.

 Is there a best kernel to go with it?

I'm using Om2008.8-update with latest FDOM but am also looking at an
alternative.


 Thanks

 I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well.

Do you mean this one?
  http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html

How does this relate to Om2008.8-update?

What is the exact installation procedure you use (think neotool) Do you
also need to install the minimal modules or other stuff or does that come
with FDOM anyway?

Pander


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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-25 Thread Marcel
Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:54:52 schrieb Pander:
 On Sat, October 25, 2008 16:26, Marcel wrote:
  Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe:
  So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see
  what
  kernel I should use with it.
 
  Is there a best kernel to go with it?

 I'm using Om2008.8-update with latest FDOM but am also looking at an
 alternative.

  Thanks
 
  I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well.

 Do you mean this one?
   http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html

Yes.

 How does this relate to Om2008.8-update?

I don't know. Simply using it...

 What is the exact installation procedure you use (think neotool) Do you
 also need to install the minimal modules or other stuff or does that come
 with FDOM anyway?

Since I don't see the kernel output on booting I didn't see if it's missing 
modules on first boot, but I copied the modules also because most kernels 
need their own special module set (from my experience). Installation: as 
simple as
$ dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage.bin
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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-25 Thread Armin ranjbar
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:13:27 -0400
Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what
 kernel I should use with it.
 
 Is there a best kernel to go with it?
 
 Thanks
 

Well , any kernel that works with om2008.9 :) 

ideally , om2008.9 kernel .

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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-25 Thread Armin ranjbar
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:30:01 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't use my FR because of bug #1024.
 
 Few days ago i flashed qtopia 4.3.2 and patched it with Mwester work 
 (http://moko.mwester.net/brc.html); it was quite good but I don't like
 qtopia ... 
 
 I started Reading
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024
 and
 http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Calypso.
 
 
 I used AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM
 (Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.tar.gz and
 Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and now it works even better than
 qtopia (IMHO). In more than 12 hours and 1 reboot (to reproduce the
 experiment 
 - I didn't believe it) no re-registering, receiving call (resume after 
 suspend) and making call 100%.
 I don't know if it's the good work of FDOM guys or anything else, ...
 but after today intensive tests I start thinking of FR as a really
 usable phone !!

Its very Great that you liked FDOM , note that if you need ( or anyone
else on planet! ) need something new on FDOM , have a cool idea , know a
bug ( simply knowledge of 'something is wrong' is valuable enough , not
always a fix is necessary for report ) you can join Fdom Devel list and
post them there! ;)

We will open 'merge window' for one week after each release to accepting
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Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated

2008-10-25 Thread Paul

 I used AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM 
 (Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.tar.gz and 
 Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and now it works even better than 
 qtopia (IMHO). In more than 12 hours and 1 reboot (to reproduce the 
 experiment - I didn't believe it) no re-registering, receiving call 
 (resume after suspend) and making call 100%.


Wow. That's fantastic! As soon as I have a new SIM card (somehow the old 
one broke) I'm going to play with this!

Thank you for this post. :-)

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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release

2008-10-25 Thread Pander
Hi all,

I am willing to put in effort in testing, bug fixing, developing and
impoving OM on FreeRunner. This would be a bit easier if it is clear what
exact combination of images is currently the latest stable (read usable)
in terms of this community. I understand this is not an easy question ;)

Only if a certain group of people is using the exact same set, it is
possible to succesfully cooperate. I know I am a newbe here but if someone
would get me up to speed, that would be much obliged.

Thanks,

Pander


On Sat, October 25, 2008 15:54, Marcel wrote:
 Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:54:52 schrieb Pander:
 On Sat, October 25, 2008 16:26, Marcel wrote:
  Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe:
  So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see
  what
  kernel I should use with it.
 
  Is there a best kernel to go with it?

 I'm using Om2008.8-update with latest FDOM but am also looking at an
 alternative.

  Thanks
 
  I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well.

 Do you mean this one?
   http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html

 Yes.

 How does this relate to Om2008.8-update?

 I don't know. Simply using it...

 What is the exact installation procedure you use (think neotool) Do you
 also need to install the minimal modules or other stuff or does that
 come
 with FDOM anyway?

 Since I don't see the kernel output on booting I didn't see if it's
 missing
 modules on first boot, but I copied the modules also because most kernels
 need their own special module set (from my experience). Installation: as
 simple as
 $ dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage.bin
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Re: FDOM pet Tux (other distros too)

2008-10-24 Thread David Samblas
El jue, 23-10-2008 a las 22:18 +0200, Minh Ha Duong escribió:
 Hi David,
 
   There is a purple brained Tux on the FDOM page at
 http://www.tuxbrain.com/fdom_en.html
Looks cool, isn't it ? :)
 
 Is that FDOM's pet or your company's ?
FDOM's, Is a Fat and Dirty penguin with brained reminiscence :) 
 If it's FDOM, is the picture copyleft ?
Yes
 If it is copyleft, would you care to add it to 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution ?
I will as soon as I can :)
 
 The wiki s needs more pretty pictures.
I will try to add some screen captures too, when my neo comes back from
a brief  the demo tour
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Re: FDOM pet Tux (other distros too)

2008-10-24 Thread Minh Ha Duong
  The wiki s needs more pretty pictures.

 I will try to add some screen captures too, when my neo comes back from
 a brief  the demo tour

Cool. Actually that was a subliminal message to other distribution managers. 
Especially to SHR and ASU, since Qt, Debian and Android more or less already 
have a visual identity, and FSO is a project not a distribution. Maybe we 
could associate the ASU series with Openmoko's slanted guy in a circle 
logo ?

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Re: [FDOM] charging problem?

2008-10-21 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Matthew Lane wrote:
 I'm running FDOM and I'm trying to charge off the wall charger, but my 
 AUX light doesn't light up, and my battery meter doesn't change to the 
 bolt; essentially my phone won't charge.  It will, however, charge from 
 the computer.  Is this a known issue?

 Also, I have posted three times about the Debian installer script and 
 have gotten no replies, does ANYONE know anything about this script 
 before I try to personally e-mail the guys that wrote it?

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same problem with 2008.9 release updated using opkg although even when 
connected to PC it shows that it is not connecting although the force 
charging shell script reports it is charging.


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Re: [FDOM] charging problem?

2008-10-21 Thread William Kenworthy
Are you using a very recent u-boot.  There was one version that had
problems like that.

BillK


On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 06:02 -0600, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote:
 Matthew Lane wrote:
  I'm running FDOM and I'm trying to charge off the wall charger, but my 
  AUX light doesn't light up, and my battery meter doesn't change to the 
  bolt; essentially my phone won't charge.  It will, however, charge from 
  the computer.  Is this a known issue?
 
  Also, I have posted three times about the Debian installer script and 
  have gotten no replies, does ANYONE know anything about this script 
  before I try to personally e-mail the guys that wrote it?
 
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 connected to PC it shows that it is not connecting although the force 
 charging shell script reports it is charging.
 
 
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Re: [FDOM] charging problem?

2008-10-21 Thread VirtuAlex



Matthew Lane wrote:
 
 I'm running FDOM and I'm trying to charge off the wall charger, but my 
 AUX light doesn't light up, and my battery meter doesn't change to the 
 bolt; essentially my phone won't charge.  It will, however, charge from 
 the computer.  Is this a known issue?
 

I have to unplug the USB cable and plug it back again to start charging.
From second try it shows the charging icon and starts charging.
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Re: [FDOM/all?] best kernel (as of 2008.10.19)

2008-10-19 Thread arne anka
 So first I tried the
 testing-om-gta02-20081019.uImage.binhttp://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing-om-gta02-20081019.uImage.binkernel
 from
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/

 While everything booted fine, I could not ssh into the device so I had to
 give up on that kernel and just reflashed with:


my understanding is, that a lot of important things (g_ether in  
particular) are modules -- thus simply flashing another kernel w/o  
updating the modules accordingly is doomed to fail.

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Re: [FDOM] dialer crash

2008-10-14 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Saturday 11 October 2008 01:46:12 julien cubizolles wrote:
 As of yesterday's updates from testing, the dialer won't start with an
 Enlightenment message :

 qcop service send Launcher execute\(QString\) dialer

 Any ideas ?

Yes:

# qcop service send Launcher execute\(QString\) dialer
qcop: error while loading shared libraries: libQtSvg.so.4: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory

I'm about to try downgrading the version libqtdvg but am a bit busy and need 
to locate the opk.

Sarton

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Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?

2008-10-09 Thread Alastair Johnson
Christ van Willegen wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christ van Willegen wrote:
 Hi,

 did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be
 exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and
 immediately quits...

 Christ van Willegen
 It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check
 this.
 
 I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the
 'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck.
 
 Let me try that again...
 
 According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but
 hciconfig returns zilch.
 
 Christ van Willegen

echo 1  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on
echo 1  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset
echo 0  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset

wait a few seconds then try hciconfig again.


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Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?

2008-10-09 Thread Alastair Johnson
Christ van Willegen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be
 exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and
 immediately quits...
 
 Christ van Willegen

It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check 
this.

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Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?

2008-10-09 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christ van Willegen wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christ van Willegen wrote:
 Hi,

 did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be
 exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and
 immediately quits...

 Christ van Willegen
 It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check
 this.

 I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the
 'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck.

 Let me try that again...

 According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but
 hciconfig returns zilch.

 Christ van Willegen

 echo 1  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on
 echo 1  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset
 echo 0  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset

Whew, the hard way with the on-screen keyboard and the stylus, but now
it _searches_.

I don't have the kbd handy, will try this evening...

Thanks!

Christ van Willegen
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Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?

2008-10-09 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christ van Willegen wrote:
 Hi,

 did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be
 exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and
 immediately quits...

 Christ van Willegen

 It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check
 this.

I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the
'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck.

Let me try that again...

According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but
hciconfig returns zilch.

Christ van Willegen
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Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?

2008-10-09 Thread Alastair Johnson
Christ van Willegen wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christ van Willegen wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christ van Willegen wrote:
 Hi,

 did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be
 exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and
 immediately quits...

 Christ van Willegen
 It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check
 this.
 I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the
 'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck.

 Let me try that again...

 According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but
 hciconfig returns zilch.

 Christ van Willegen
 echo 1  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on
 echo 1  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset
 echo 0  /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset
 
 Whew, the hard way with the on-screen keyboard and the stylus, but now
 it _searches_.
 
 I don't have the kbd handy, will try this evening...

Try with the GUI again, and if it causes problems then report a bug as 
it needs to work reliably.

hidd --search picks up my iGo Stowaway without problems. Just press 
Ctrl-Fn-Fn until the green LED flashes before running it. This method 
will be disappearing soon though as hidd is deprecated. With luck 
someone (me?) will write a GUI app to do the job...

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RE: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?

2008-10-09 Thread Staley, Daniel L
I have had no trouble connecting to my iGo bluetooth keyboard initially.  
However, after a suspend I have noticed that bluetooth will no longer work.  
Perhaps the device never gets powered back on?
Has anyone else noticed this?

A nice zenity gui for connecting to bluetooth keyboards (or really anything 
bluetooth) was written by ScaredyCat a while back.  I use it and it works great!
(see www.bufferunderflow.com?entry=6 for pics and a quick video using the 
keyboard)

Get btkb at:
http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/app_btkb/?rev=14amp;root=scutil


-Dan Staley
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To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christ van Willegen wrote:
 Hi,

 did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be
 exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and
 immediately quits...

 Christ van Willegen

 It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check
 this.

I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the
'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck.

Let me try that again...

According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but
hciconfig returns zilch.

Christ van Willegen
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Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?

2008-10-09 Thread Richard Guest
Cool.
I went looking for this a while ago, but couldn't find it...

Two questions:
Does anyone have an ipk for zenity?
Has anyone got the iGo running using a PIN?

Chur,
Rich

2008/10/10 Staley, Daniel L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have had no trouble connecting to my iGo bluetooth keyboard initially.
  However, after a suspend I have noticed that bluetooth will no longer work.
  Perhaps the device never gets powered back on?
 Has anyone else noticed this?

 A nice zenity gui for connecting to bluetooth keyboards (or really anything
 bluetooth) was written by ScaredyCat a while back.  I use it and it works
 great!
 (see www.bufferunderflow.com?entry=6 for pics and a quick video using the
 keyboard)

 Get btkb at:

 http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/app_btkb/?rev=14amp;root=scutil


 -Dan Staley
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 From: Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:41 AM
 To: List for Openmoko community discussion
 Subject: Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?

 On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Christ van Willegen wrote:
  Hi,
 
  did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be
  exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and
  immediately quits...
 
  Christ van Willegen
 
  It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check
  this.

 I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the
 'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck.

 Let me try that again...

 According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but
 hciconfig returns zilch.

 Christ van Willegen
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Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?

2008-10-09 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/10/10 Richard Guest [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Two questions:
 Does anyone have an ipk for zenity?

http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/

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Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?

2008-10-09 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/10/10 Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/10/10 Richard Guest [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Two questions:
 Does anyone have an ipk for zenity?

sorry, i meant

http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk

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Re: FDOM - OMView question

2008-10-08 Thread David Samblas
slide you finger up to down in the screen will zoom out and return to
the slide show view

Regards
David Samblas
El mié, 08-10-2008 a las 10:05 +0200, Paul escribió:
 Hi all,
 
 I am running FDOM from the card at the moment, works pretty nice. I can
 see pictures! *grin*
 
 Question about that though: I can drag the picture up full-screen and even
 in zoom-view. But how does one get back to the thumbnail view from there?
 There's no control for it in sight, and pressing all the buttons doesn't
 help either. I resolved this by pulling the battery, but I doubt this is
 the standard control for it. ;-)
 
 Paul
 
 


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Re: FDOM - OMView question

2008-10-08 Thread Paul
David Samblas wrote:
 slide you finger up to down in the screen will zoom out and return to
 the slide show view
   

Thank you. It had to be something simple like that.  :-)

Paul

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Re: [FDOM] Kernel panic?

2008-10-03 Thread Andy Green
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Matthew Lane wrote:
 I'm getting a kernel panic when I flash the lastest FDOM (20080927).  
 I'm using the latest 2008.9 kernel, could this be the issue?  FDOM 
 doesn't seem to supply a kernel to use, but I'd think that the 2008.09 
 kernel would be fine.

Without a debug board it's hard to know why you panicked, but the most
common reason is unable to mount the rootfs.  That can be because of
U-Boot kernel commandline is wrong somehow, the contents of the rootfs
are broken or incomplete, or if the rootfs is on SD card it failed to
get recognized properly, etc.

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Re: FDOM and WiFi

2008-10-03 Thread Vince M. Clark
Here is the output. I can see the access point but it is not connected even 
though in Mofi the circle is orange next to the access point. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0 
eth0 AR6000 802.11g ESSID: 
Mode:Managed Bit Rate:1 Mb/s Tx-Power=0 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 
Retry:on 
Encryption key:off 
Power Management:off 
Link Quality:0/94 Signal level:-95 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm 
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwlist eth0 scan 
eth0 Scan completed : 
Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41 
ESSID:linksys 
Mode:Master 
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) 
Quality=15/94 Signal level=-80 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm 
Encryption key:off 
Extra:bcn_int=100 



- Original Message - 
From: Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 11:00:18 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver 
Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi 


eth0 definitely has no address. I'll check iwconfig. 

- Original Message - 
From: Alex Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 10:55:46 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver 
Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi 

Vince M. Clark wrote: 
 If I open a terminal and run ifconfig all I have is 
 eth0, lo, and usb0. 

The wifi is eth0. Is there an address associated with it there? Also 
check the output of iwconfig. If it has associated the AP then it 
should say Access Point: and then give the MAC address of the AP. 

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Re: FDOM and WiFi

2008-10-03 Thread Michael Shiloh
At this point you can try manually configuring the wireless card:

iwconfig eth0 essid linksys

Does your network have an encryption key? How many letters? I think 
there is a bug that one letter keys don't work.

If your network has an encryption key, I think another bug requires that 
you set the key before the ID thus:

iwconfig eth0 key 123456789 essid linksys

Let me know if this works and we'll update the wiki accordingly

Michael

Vince M. Clark wrote:
   Here is the output. I can see the access point but it is not connected 
 even though in Mofi the circle is orange next to the access point.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0
 eth0  AR6000 802.11g  ESSID: 
   Mode:Managed  Bit Rate:1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=0 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3 
   Retry:on  
   Encryption key:off
   Power Management:off
   Link Quality:0/94  Signal level:-95 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwlist eth0 scan
 eth0  Scan completed :
   Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41
 ESSID:linksys
 Mode:Master
 Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
 Quality=15/94  Signal level=-80 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm
 Encryption key:off
 Extra:bcn_int=100
 



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Re: FDOM and WiFi

2008-10-03 Thread Vince M. Clark
Network is open and I can see it. I tried manually configuring and it sets the 
essid but doesn't get an IP address. Is there something else I need to do to 
enable dhcp? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0 
eth0 AR6000 802.11g ESSID:linksys 
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41 
Bit Rate=1 Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 
Retry:on 
Encryption key:off 
Power Management:off 
Link Quality:179/94 Signal level:-172 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm 
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:8 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifconfig eth0 
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:CF:8E:E7:AA 
inet6 addr: fe80::212:cfff:fe8e:e7aa/64 Scope:Link 
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 
RX packets:109829 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 
TX packets:14838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
RX bytes:44459303 (42.3 MiB) TX bytes:146338 (142.9 KiB) 


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From: Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org 
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 1:44:57 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver 
Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi 

At this point you can try manually configuring the wireless card: 

iwconfig eth0 essid linksys 

Does your network have an encryption key? How many letters? I think 
there is a bug that one letter keys don't work. 

If your network has an encryption key, I think another bug requires that 
you set the key before the ID thus: 

iwconfig eth0 key 123456789 essid linksys 

Let me know if this works and we'll update the wiki accordingly 

Michael 

Vince M. Clark wrote: 
 Here is the output. I can see the access point but it is not connected 
 even though in Mofi the circle is orange next to the access point. 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0 
 eth0 AR6000 802.11g ESSID: 
 Mode:Managed Bit Rate:1 Mb/s Tx-Power=0 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 
 Retry:on 
 Encryption key:off 
 Power Management:off 
 Link Quality:0/94 Signal level:-95 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm 
 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 
 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwlist eth0 scan 
 eth0 Scan completed : 
 Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41 
 ESSID:linksys 
 Mode:Master 
 Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) 
 Quality=15/94 Signal level=-80 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm 
 Encryption key:off 
 Extra:bcn_int=100 
 



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Re: FDOM and WiFi

2008-10-03 Thread Michael Shiloh
After you set the ESSID you need to request an IP address via dhcp:

udhcpc eth0

Which is the last line in this command sequence:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_WLAN#Manual_attempt

Vince M. Clark wrote:
   Network is open and I can see it. I tried manually configuring and it 
 sets the essid but doesn't get an IP address. Is there something else I 
 need to do to enable dhcp?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0
 eth0  AR6000 802.11g  ESSID:linksys 
   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: 
 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41  
   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3 
   Retry:on  
   Encryption key:off
   Power Management:off
   Link Quality:179/94  Signal level:-172 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:8
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ifconfig eth0
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:12:CF:8E:E7:AA 
   inet6 addr: fe80::212:cfff:fe8e:e7aa/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:109829 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:14838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:44459303 (42.3 MiB)  TX bytes:146338 (142.9 KiB)
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 1:44:57 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver
 Subject: Re: FDOM and WiFi
 
 At this point you can try manually configuring the wireless card:
 
 iwconfig eth0 essid linksys
 
 Does your network have an encryption key? How many letters? I think
 there is a bug that one letter keys don't work.
 
 If your network has an encryption key, I think another bug requires that
 you set the key before the ID thus:
 
 iwconfig eth0 key 123456789 essid linksys
 
 Let me know if this works and we'll update the wiki accordingly
 
 Michael
 
 Vince M. Clark wrote:
 Here is the output. I can see the access point but it is not connected
   even though in Mofi the circle is orange next to the access point.
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0
   eth0  AR6000 802.11g  ESSID:
 Mode:Managed  Bit Rate:1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=0 dBm   
 Sensitivity=0/3
 Retry:on  
 Encryption key:off
 Power Management:off
 Link Quality:0/94  Signal level:-95 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
 Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
 Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
  
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwlist eth0 scan
   eth0  Scan completed :
 Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:D2:BB:41
   ESSID:linksys
   Mode:Master
   Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
   Quality=15/94  Signal level=-80 dBm  Noise 
 level=-95 dBm
   Encryption key:off
   Extra:bcn_int=100
  

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Re: [FDOM] dfu-error -71

2008-10-03 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/10/2 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2008/9/27 rhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi
 I've just tried to flash my freerunner with the newest FDOM and ran into a
 problem with dfu-util.
 Long story short, here's the console output:


 I'm having this problem just now with qtopia, the first time i tried as
 normal user i got error 71, the second i tried as root and i got error 84
 !?!?


I tried just now, with a laptop, now the error is -110!
What should i do?

Nicola
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Re: [FDOM] dfu-error -71

2008-10-03 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/10/4 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2008/10/2 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2008/9/27 rhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi
 I've just tried to flash my freerunner with the newest FDOM and ran into
 a problem with dfu-util.
 Long story short, here's the console output:


 I'm having this problem just now with qtopia, the first time i tried as
 normal user i got error 71, the second i tried as root and i got error 84
 !?!?


 I tried just now, with a laptop, now the error is -110!
 What should i do?


It's late  :) i forgot -a :)
i was able to flash...

 Nicola
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Re: [FDOM] dfu-error -71

2008-10-02 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/9/27 rhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi
 I've just tried to flash my freerunner with the newest FDOM and ran into a
 problem with dfu-util.
 Long story short, here's the console output:


I'm having this problem just now with qtopia, the first time i tried as
normal user i got error 71, the second i tried as root and i got error 84
!?!?

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Re: [FDOM] Kernel panic?

2008-10-02 Thread David Samblas
Hi Matthew please verify if you have downloaded the full file because
sometimes the compartida.net server truncate the file to make sure you
have downloaded use wget -c and the url of the file, or better use one
of the mirrors of the wiki adn try again.


El jue, 02-10-2008 a las 16:04 -0400, Matthew Lane escribió:
 I'm getting a kernel panic when I flash the lastest FDOM (20080927).  
 I'm using the latest 2008.9 kernel, could this be the issue?  FDOM 
 doesn't seem to supply a kernel to use, but I'd think that the 2008.09 
 kernel would be fine.
 
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Re: Re: [FDOM] Kernel panic?

2008-10-02 Thread Matthew
David Samblas wrote:
 Hi Matthew please verify if you have downloaded the full file because
 sometimes the compartida.net server truncate the file to make sure you
 have downloaded use wget -c and the url of the file, or better use one
 of the mirrors of the wiki adn try again.


 El jue, 02-10-2008 a las 16:04 -0400, Matthew Lane escribió:
   
 I'm getting a kernel panic when I flash the lastest FDOM (20080927).  
 I'm using the latest 2008.9 kernel, could this be the issue?  FDOM 
 doesn't seem to supply a kernel to use, but I'd think that the 2008.09 
 kernel would be fine.

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Alright, will do.  Thanks.

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Re: FDOM and WiFi

2008-10-02 Thread Alex Osborne
Vince M. Clark wrote:
 If I open a terminal and run ifconfig all I have is 
 eth0, lo, and usb0.

The wifi is eth0.  Is there an address associated with it there?  Also 
check the output of iwconfig.  If it has associated the AP then it 
should say Access Point: and then give the MAC address of the AP.

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Re: FDOM and WiFi

2008-10-02 Thread Vince M. Clark
eth0 definitely has no address. I'll check iwconfig. 

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Vince M. Clark wrote: 
 If I open a terminal and run ifconfig all I have is 
 eth0, lo, and usb0. 

The wifi is eth0. Is there an address associated with it there? Also 
check the output of iwconfig. If it has associated the AP then it 
should say Access Point: and then give the MAC address of the AP. 

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Re: [FDOM 080927] Modem jokes on SIM entries

2008-10-01 Thread madis
Hi David and Linus,

I have the same problem...
After registering if I try to open the phone book I see only message 
Loading Sim...
I can't see my phone book content in Sim and my FR behaves very 
strangely also.
I can't receive calls if somebody calls. My FR rings, but I am unable
to press the answer button, the touch screen is not responding.
The screen itself is ok, because all other times it works.
I can't make any phone calls, my FR says it's dialing the number,
but nothing happens in reality.

Regards,
Madis

David Samblas wrote:
 Hi linus, 
 the only modification done vs the OM 2008.9 regarding gsm is the
 addition of the
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/gsm0710muxd_0.9.1+r0-gitr3ff86b129640b647ccba3d86eb243d864671b039-r0_armv4t.ipk
 packages and some configuration in the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia to
 make it work.
 The rest is as is in the 2008.9 so you I suppose you can debug as you
 where in 2008.9 downloading the source code of Contact if you want.

 BTW I have no knowlege about any one else having this issue.

 Next FDOM release will come from a svn repository that will keep track
 of the modifications  we have done to the 2008.X to become an FDOM, then
 you will see from where a packages come(OM , angstrom or other
 repositories or direct download from OM projects or from anywhere else) 
 I hope this helps to those asking from the souce code of FDOM.

 Regards
 David Samblas
 El mar, 30-09-2008 a las 07:03 +0100, Linus Gasser escribió:
   
 Hi list,

 I'm running the latest FDOM (20080927) but still have a very annoying 
 problem: my SIM-card is not read with regard to the address entries. If 
 I go to the Contacts, there is only written Loading SIM on top, but 
 nothing shows. IIRC, this was no problem in ASU_0807.

 Is there any way I can debug that to see where it stops? With the SIM 
 not being loaded, I can neither call, nor receive calls, nor suspend. Or 
 shall I do a binary search to see whether it's a special entry that 
 causes this?

 Thank you for any hint you may give me,

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Re: [FDOM 080927] Modem jokes on SIM entries

2008-10-01 Thread Devendra Gera
On Wed, 01 Oct 2008, madis wrote:

 After registering if I try to open the phone book I see only message 
 Loading Sim...
 I can't see my phone book content in Sim and my FR behaves very 
 strangely also.
 I can't receive calls if somebody calls. My FR rings, but I am unable
 to press the answer button, the touch screen is not responding.
 The screen itself is ok, because all other times it works.
 I can't make any phone calls, my FR says it's dialing the number,
 but nothing happens in reality.

I encounter the same issues. I have noticed that disabling auto suspend
and not doing _anything_ related to SIM or suspend (which means no
calls, no contacts, no messages etc.) until after ~5 minutes *after* GSM
registration helps. Then I try and make a call to my operator to verify
that everything work, and only then suspend manually. Doing this ensures
my phone keeps working when it wakes up.

I have noticed that accessing SIM contacts even beyond this procedure
breaks suspend and/or calling unpredictably. I tend to avoid using SIM
contacts a much as I can.

--gera.


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Re: [FDOM 080927] Modem jokes on SIM entries

2008-10-01 Thread David Samblas
Ok thats why I was unable to reproduce the issue, I allways have
dissabled auto suspend, I suspend manually and I usually do a lot of
things once the neo boots up before and I deatached it from the pc.

Any one with same experience on a raw 2008.9 instalation?, if not maybe
amstrong demux has become more inestable than expected. I we have to
redo this part to have gprs and gsm at same time. or it is also included
on 2008.9? some guiadance on alternatives or posible workarrounds will
be apreciated :)

Thanks
El mié, 01-10-2008 a las 13:33 +0530, Devendra Gera escribió:
 On Wed, 01 Oct 2008, madis wrote:
 
  After registering if I try to open the phone book I see only message 
  Loading Sim...
  I can't see my phone book content in Sim and my FR behaves very 
  strangely also.
  I can't receive calls if somebody calls. My FR rings, but I am unable
  to press the answer button, the touch screen is not responding.
  The screen itself is ok, because all other times it works.
  I can't make any phone calls, my FR says it's dialing the number,
  but nothing happens in reality.
 
 I encounter the same issues. I have noticed that disabling auto suspend
 and not doing _anything_ related to SIM or suspend (which means no
 calls, no contacts, no messages etc.) until after ~5 minutes *after* GSM
 registration helps. Then I try and make a call to my operator to verify
 that everything work, and only then suspend manually. Doing this ensures
 my phone keeps working when it wakes up.
 
 I have noticed that accessing SIM contacts even beyond this procedure
 breaks suspend and/or calling unpredictably. I tend to avoid using SIM
 contacts a much as I can.
 
 --gera.
 
 
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Re: [FDOM 080927] Modem jokes on SIM entries

2008-10-01 Thread Dan Staley
I also have this problem.  I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I was worried
my sim card reader broke.  (As the contacts were being imported
correctly before.

When I first boot up the phone, it connects to the network and can make
calls and suspend fine.  However, if I try to goto the contacts
application, it hangs up on Loading Sim... and after that I can no
longer make/receive calls or come back from suspend.

When this first started happening, I would goto the contacts and no
contacts would be loaded.  I thought this might be because of the
excessive amount of contacts I had on my sim card (250+).  So I went and
cleaned out quite a few of them.  After that, I tried again.  Now I get
the same outcome (no calls/suspend) and the Loading Sim... message
stays at the top, but I get a list of garbled and certainly not correct
contacts.

Because of the garbled contacts, I wonder if the qtopia dialer got
upgraded and the new version does not split the data up correctly from
the sim card?  perhaps the delimeters are wrong?

I'm using an ATnT fireball sim card and it has worked fine before this.

Anyone have any idea?

-Dan Staley

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 03:21 -0400, madis wrote:
 Hi David and Linus,
 
 I have the same problem...
 After registering if I try to open the phone book I see only message
 Loading Sim...
 I can't see my phone book content in Sim and my FR behaves very
 strangely also.
 I can't receive calls if somebody calls. My FR rings, but I am unable
 to press the answer button, the touch screen is not responding.
 The screen itself is ok, because all other times it works.
 I can't make any phone calls, my FR says it's dialing the number,
 but nothing happens in reality.
 
 Regards,
 Madis
 
 David Samblas wrote:
  Hi linus,
  the only modification done vs the OM 2008.9 regarding gsm is the
  addition of the
  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/gsm0710muxd_0.9.1+r0-gitr3ff86b129640b647ccba3d86eb243d864671b039-r0_armv4t.ipk
  packages and some configuration in the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia to
  make it work.
  The rest is as is in the 2008.9 so you I suppose you can debug as you
  where in 2008.9 downloading the source code of Contact if you want.
 
  BTW I have no knowlege about any one else having this issue.
 
  Next FDOM release will come from a svn repository that will keep track
  of the modifications  we have done to the 2008.X to become an FDOM, then
  you will see from where a packages come(OM , angstrom or other
  repositories or direct download from OM projects or from anywhere else)
  I hope this helps to those asking from the souce code of FDOM.
 
  Regards
  David Samblas
  El mar, 30-09-2008 a las 07:03 +0100, Linus Gasser escribió:
 
  Hi list,
 
  I'm running the latest FDOM (20080927) but still have a very annoying
  problem: my SIM-card is not read with regard to the address entries. If
  I go to the Contacts, there is only written Loading SIM on top, but
  nothing shows. IIRC, this was no problem in ASU_0807.
 
  Is there any way I can debug that to see where it stops? With the SIM
  not being loaded, I can neither call, nor receive calls, nor suspend. Or
  shall I do a binary search to see whether it's a special entry that
  causes this?
 
  Thank you for any hint you may give me,
 
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