I'm not sure if we did this yet. I'll check
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Hi Steve, others,
About that 8GB micro-SD card (which someone confusingly called a miniSD
card earlier in this thread), steve wrote once upon a time:
|> I think Michael and I were supposed to test the 8GB version.
|> Actually Michael tests and I say
Stroller wrote:
On 13 Apr 2008, at 17:44, steve wrote:
Not sure I understand what you mean by final Inventory.
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add
some
other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
Many people have voiced there opinion to me ab
What you wrote, Gilles, is a problem. I can't imagine, that FIC produced
headsets that would fit for the neo only (why should they?), so I strongly
assume that the headset is a standard device. Maybe you should describe what
exactly didn't work, so we can try to figure out what the problem is.
I ca
> A headset is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to me.
>
> I need to be able to talk whilst I drive sometimes.
>
> Of course, if you make it an optional accessory I will (reluctantly) pay
> extra to purchase it, but a headset has been included in my last 3 phone
> purchases.
You do realize the cost of the
thomasg wrote:
"We all"? At least not me.
There are a bunch of wired headsets, headphones, I never used one of it.
I also haven't ever seen somebody walking around with a wired headset in
the last 3 years.
Imho that's one of the most useless accesoires that comes with mobiles.
If I want to list
On 4/18/08, thomasg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "We all"? At least not me.
> There are a bunch of wired headsets, headphones, I never used one of it.
> I also haven't ever seen somebody walking around with a wired headset in
> the last 3 years.
> Imho that's one of the most useless accesoires th
"We all"? At least not me.
There are a bunch of wired headsets, headphones, I never used one of it.
I also haven't ever seen somebody walking around with a wired headset in the
last 3 years.
Imho that's one of the most useless accesoires that comes with mobiles.
If I want to listen to music, I'll t
f Philippe
> Guillebert
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> Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
>
> steve wrote:
> >
> > USB cable is in.
> >
>
> Hello all,
>
> Sorry to keep that up but I
On 4/18/08, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 13 Apr 2008, at 17:44, steve wrote:
>
> Not sure I understand what you mean by final Inventory.
> >
> > The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add
> > some
> > other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buy
On 13 Apr 2008, at 17:44, steve wrote:
Not sure I understand what you mean by final Inventory.
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to
add some
other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
Many people have voiced there opinion to me about what EXTRA
On 4/18/08, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 14 Apr 2008, at 19:09, steve wrote:
>
> > ...
> > Well I apologize for killing the orange/white model. When I
> > get to place where I can figure what colors everyone wants and in what
> > ratios, then I can easily add colors.
> >
>
> Yello
On 14 Apr 2008, at 19:09, steve wrote:
...
Well I apologize for killing the orange/white model. When I
get to place where I can figure what colors everyone wants and in what
ratios, then I can easily add colors.
Yellow & blue!!
Stroller.
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steve wrote:
>
> USB cable is in.
>
Hello all,
Sorry to keep that up but I see three kind of potential cables and I'm
not sure which one you're talking about :
- First is male USB A <=> free
mini usb to USB.
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Hi.
Is this the mini-usb (on OM side) --> usb
Thanks Lon.
Good comment.
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For quite a while now I've been re
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&g
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Lon Lentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For quite a while now I've been reading comments from people saying
> that this issue or that issue is a "deal breaker". I've been reading
> hardware requests and demands that stretch the gambit from quaint and
> interestin
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Steven **
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> For the one off, you could check out http://www.emachineshop.com
> They do injection molding of various plastics in "many" colors.
Oh that's awesome. It has been years in coming (they promised it for
a long time).
_
For quite a while now I've been reading comments from people saying
that this issue or that issue is a "deal breaker". I've been reading
hardware requests and demands that stretch the gambit from quaint and
interesting to just down right silly. If this is the environment in
which all FOSS is devel
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For the one off, you could check out http://www.emachineshop.com They do
injection molding of va
Go for it.
Let me know if I can help in any way. Off list.
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On 16/04/2008, Hugo Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have no experience at all in manufacturing -- my closest moment
> came when I did some work on production scheduling in a flour mill --
> but I still thought it was worth finding out what it would cost to do
> it. I doubt that I'll ha
you're buying from carfax.org.uk. :)
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Hmm in this goal, why not Openmoko.com to sell "blank" case, non finished
ones, witout any painting, just to be customized/adapted later ?
I don't think only wit
discussion
Subject: Colored cases, etc - Was Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
For the one off, you could check out http://www.emachineshop.com They do
injection molding of various plastics in "many" colors.
I'm not sure if you could make a profit by having them make a ton of
This is EXACTLY why we freed the CAD files
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2008
steve wrote:
One goal of freeing the CAD , freeing the flesh of the phone, was to
enable others to seize these opportunities.
So, the CAD files for the FreeRunner are out there, before it has even
shipped. I think this decision is
underappreciated.
The per piece cost of plastic is small. Go pr
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>From the involvement I've had with injection molding the costs of material
(ie the plastic) per piece it not very expensive, it&#x
I guess people could get it airbrushed if it was a matte plastic case,
maybe shipped with primer already painted on it.
Seems like a lot of work, but it would really fit well with the whole
customization thing.
Maybe FIC could start selling DIY at-home plastic injection molding kits, too ;)
On W
Hmm in this goal, why not Openmoko.com to sell "blank" case, non finished
ones, witout any painting, just to be customized/adapted later ?
I don't think only with painting, but integrate an eye cam or other
expansion pack, or wifi external connectors for example...
Even one water proof why not :)
>From the involvement I've had with injection molding the costs of
material (ie the plastic) per piece it not very expensive, it's the
mold tool that is the expensive part.. For one project I'm involved in
I think the mold tool was something like $10KUSD.. This is a production
quality (read hig
Spare the case plastics (create an orderable part number) and have a "Trick
out your Neo" contest. Grand prize? An autographed photo of the Neo Team!
Or perhaps the remains of a Neo after the "destructive tests". If I could
buy an extra case for around US$20 to $30, I'd probably give it a whirl.
For the one off, you could check out http://www.emachineshop.com
They do injection molding of various plastics in "many" colors.
I'm not sure if you could make a profit by having them make a ton of
cases and then reselling them or not.
-Steven
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Hugo Mills <[EMAIL
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 06:32:09PM +0200, Peter Kraker wrote:
> Someone with a knack for business should simply grab those CAD files and
> start manufacturing replacement cases in gazillion different colors.
I thought the same. So I've picked an injection moulding firm more
or less at random,
Someone with a knack for business should simply grab those CAD files and
start manufacturing replacement cases in gazillion different colors.
Bastian Muck pravi:
What about colored stickers? I think it could be cheap to design and
cut them to fit at the neo. I guess this could be a solution to
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:05:10PM +0200, David Samblas Martinez wrote:
> Regarding colors, maybe in the massmarket phase being
> able to customice your case as a lot of comercial
> moviles will be a plus to fashion victims ( My female
> work college has his laptop, movile phone and mp3 all
> in he
Hey
there is nothing more dearly than a happy developer
dancing after a successfull test. :)
Regarding colors, maybe in the massmarket phase being
able to customice your case as a lot of comercial
moviles will be a plus to fashion victims ( My female
work college has his laptop, movile phone and
discussion
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My daughter is sitting right next to me and says yes, she absolutely
wants
one in pink. She also wants one multicolored. See, the white-and-
markers
idea isn't such a bad one, eh?
Michael
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My daughter is sitting right next to me and says yes, she absolutely wants
one in pink. She also wants one multicolored. See, the white-and-markers
idea isn't such a bad one, eh?
Michael
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x27;t even charge me.
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What about colored stickers? I think it could be cheap to design and cut
them to fit at the neo. I guess this could be a solution to many whishes
for special colors. But this feature could be sold by a thirdparty-shop.
And I guess, that it would be
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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Kosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Has somebody eaten a clown this morning at breakfast? ;-)
> >
> > Of course noone really wants a pink freerunner, does so
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:49 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> what you guys actually want to see me dance?
Oh hm... YES! xD
and also some of my female (and even male) friends asked about
coloring: the preferred ones:
-red
-pink (yes, really)
-blue
-kiwi-green
--
My corner of the
what you guys actually want to see me dance?
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wtf?
This is an hocky movie
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Kosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Has somebody eaten a clown this morning at breakfast? ;-)
> >
> > Of course noone really wants a pink freerunner, does someone?
>
> I do! :D (just kidding)
I recently was at a dinner with former colleagues. The subject turned
t
On 4/15/08, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The Happy dance
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypnlOJjC368
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>
>
Stop that, I've been Rick Rolled enough these days... :P
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In a harlequin pattern no doubt.
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I do! Well, actually I probably
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I wanna see a video of that happy dance xD
--- steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
I think Michael and I were supposed to test the 8GB version.
Actually Michael tests and I say wow and great and then do the happy
dance.
He'
on. We will revert on this.
>
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> | My daughter requests pink.
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> | Maybe the only one.
&g
on this.
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The Openmoko Freerunner: MacGyver Edition
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:21 AM, clare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The pouch is very nice and closes securely with its drawstring.
> Inside it I put a piece of vinyl floor tile; and face the Neo1973
> screen to the tile, so that sharp or hard items in
A "normal" USB cable or a cable for connecting devices to the moko?
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hi.
|
| Is this the mini-usb (on OM side) --> usb (pc side), or the Y usb cable
| for usb host?
Last I heard it is miniUSB <-> USB A plug only.
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- The second is a female USB A <=> freerunner. It's used for host
mode (for example, plugging a usb key or keyboard to the neo. I've
got no idea if it is easy to find that one in a shop.
i want this cable so that i can plug in a MIDI interface and use my
neo as a sequencing platform.
;
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Sebastian Billaudelle wrote:
P.S.: I asked my mother and some neighbours:
- charger
- pouch
- lanyard
nothing else...
The pouch is very nice and closes securely with its drawstring.
Inside it I put a piece of vinyl floor tile; and face the Neo1973
screen to the tile, so tha
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| My daughter requests pink.
|
| Maybe the only one.
|
| I suggest we make them all white and include a pack of magic
markers, so
| you can color them any color you wish, or decorate to your heart'
Just trying to help. Not terribly useful at the engineering stuff any more
so trying to help how I can. :)
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:59 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Lowell.
>
>
>
> The phone will ship with a wall charger.
>
>
> --
>
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| My daughter requests pink.
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| Maybe the only one.
|
| I suggest we make them all white and include a pack of magic markers, so
| you can color them any color you wish, or decorate to your heart's
content.
|
| Half jokingly,
| Michael
lf Of Michael Shiloh
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My daughter requests pink.
Maybe the only one.
I suggest we make them all white and include a pack of magic markers, so
you can color them any colo
if they want it.
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Hi,
I spoke to my wife ("typical" end user).
She expects
On 11/04/2008, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> For these people we created a 10Pack. instead of 399 per phone, we will
> charge 369 per phone.
>
>
> Over the next few days I will explain the next steps we go through and how
> the product will get distributed
>
>
> Steve
Steve
as part o
steve wrote:
USB cable is in.
Hello all,
Sorry to keep that up but I see three kind of potential cables and I'm
not sure which one you're talking about :
- First is male USB A <=> freerunner (USB mini AB, I believe) : it is
used for charging and using usb slave functions (usb mass storag
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>
>
> My opinion:
>
> + USB-cable is essentially! I think the nice F
USB cable is in.
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My opinion:
+ USB-cable is essentially! I
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I totally agree with you, Marco!
But I would like to add two important things:
-The Pouch is more important than "needed" for me, it's essential. It
will always be there, when I'm not using it, I also don't wan
USB cable will be in the goodies.
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> It is not necessary to mod
On Monday, Apr 14, 2008, "steve" writes:
>Ok thanks dirk.
>
>Frankly, some people thought the pouch sucked.
>
>If I ship a pouch, you have no choice. you get my pouch.
>
>My opinion: it's a phone sock.
>
>Ideally I would love to have the community
>develop this accessory if they want it.
Anyone
Black is the new pink :)
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Robin Paulson wrote:
2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I also would like to have - may be separately:
- Stylus
personally, i'd want:
*a modified
Haha. I remember that. I use chopsticks and squizzle sticks.
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Hi,
> Frankly, some people thought the pouch sucked.
oh, not to bei misunderstood. It is a nice addon, but nothing that
should be in the package ... nevertheless I want to have it ;-)
> If I ship a pouch, you have no choice. you get my pouch.
:-)
> My opinion: it's a phone sock.
That is ex
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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&g
.
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Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Hi,
I spoke to my wife ("typical" end user).
She expec
n
(Treviño)"
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Ivo Anjo wrote:
> Finally, the miniSD card, DEFINITELY leave it off, unless you get a
> really really really good deal, because you can buy very high-capaci
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Hi,
I spoke to my wife ("typical" end user).
She expects a
- computer independent charger
- headset
- pouc
Thanks Lowell.
The phone will ship with a wall charger.
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The RapRep doesn't have the precision needed to build a Neo case, and
last I checked, didn't have varied enough base materials to make a
study, opaque, and APPEALING case. Put simply "multi-colored cases"
are purely a looks thing.
The CAD files are out there and someone who wanted to sell after
ma
> Well I apologize for killing the orange/white model. When I
> get to place where I can figure what colors everyone wants and in what
> ratios, then I can easily add colors. For now, folks are focused on the
> innards and not the cosmetics.
In the days of Henry Ford, it made sense to say "You
PM
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Regarding a headset, how easy will it be to get a third party (wired,
non-bluetooth) headset with decent sound for the Freerunner?
I believe there was some discussion on the kernel list about impeda
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Robin Paulson wrote:
> 2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I also would like to have - ma
I'll add it at some point. The reason I haven't is because right now
the Fast Charge applet isn't part of the Openmoko stack. A default
image of Openmoko doesn't support this charger in fast mode (which is
the ONLY think I'm concerened about, frankly).
And... This might show my own biases, but I c
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2008/4/14, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
1. We have a custom charger that can fast charg
That's a good idea, but for the most part that "approved" stamp can be
fulfilled through the wiki. I'm sure there is already list of compatible
hardware / devices that work with the NEO. I suggest you add your iGo
charger to that list.
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Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > let me know what you think. My inclination is Open accessories.
>
> I agree to Open accessories.
>
> Thinks I would like to see in the box:
> - Charger
> - USB-
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On Monday 14 April 2008 00:13, steve wrote:
> There will be two products. Buy 1 OR buy 10. ( in 850 and 900 versions of
> cou
I'm in the same position as Bobby. I use my Neo as my primary phone as
well as my digital media player. I haven't touched the lanyard or the
pouch since I took them out of the box.
But I also don't use my stylus. My stylus was neat in the beginning,
because I could use it to play with my cats, but
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 10:33 -0500, Bobby Martin wrote:
> I lost the stylus (it's way too cool; if you forget it at a restaurant
> or something, you don't get a call asking if you want it back :-)
They are $3 a piece w/ shipping included if you take ten.
For example this one here:
http://cgi.eba
Hi,
I think you are right.
There are two main opinions on getting the phone.
The geek way and the end user way.
Geeks have other needs or wishes than end users have.
What about addon packs to a basic phone with charger?
Dirk
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I think my main concern is I see "USB Cable" and "USB Charger" used
interchangeably in these messages. They are not one and the same. So which
is that we are talking about?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Reading your email I wonder if there is a misun
My opinion:
+ USB-cable is essentially! I think the nice FreeRunner won't look nice
with a self-made cable...
+ pouch
+ lanyard (this is something Moko-specific like the pouch...)
- no stylus
- no SD-card (1/2 GByte are too small, more are too expensive)
- no headset (some want big ones, others s
I am one of those crazy people who use the neo 1973 as their everyday phone,
and I NEVER use the pouch. Does any current every day user use the pouch or
lanyard?
I lost the stylus (it's way too cool; if you forget it at a restaurant or
something, you don't get a call asking if you want it back :-
I totally agree with you, Marco!
But I would like to add two important things:
-The Pouch is more important than "needed" for me, it's essential. It
will always be there, when I'm not using it, I also don't want a
"no-name" pouch, because I like that one with the word "openmoko" on it,
because it i
It is not necessary to modify a cable to fast charge the device. All
that is needed is something like [1] (which costs US$3) and the
software from [2] and you have fast charging without modifying a cable
or relying upon the folks from OpenMoko to get into the accessory
business.
I want this ca
Not providing SD card could take off taxes about private copy or other
bullshits like that from RIAA and friends... as I said in a previous mail.
To me charger should be provided, with stylus, headset and pouch at least.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Mikko Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I think the only thing in that list I would want with the Freerunner
is the USB cable (as I don't have many mini-USB cables). I already
have a nice bluetooth headset and MicroSD card. Any of those included
with the Freerunner would be useless for me and would seem a waste of
money to me, personal
On ma, 2008-04-14 at 13:29 +0200, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" wrote:
> I agree, I'll buy one soon too, but what's the maximum capacity actually
> supported (I've seen the wiki, but there are no so much tests)? I'd like
> to buy an 8Gb Mini-SD card...
I have a 8 GB one (Sandisk) in my Neo right no
as far as I understand, the Y-cable was needed when you want to
power your
neo at the same time you want to connect an external device to it.
So the cable is not needed if you just want to attach an usb device.
But you still have to hack up a cable to make it work. Thus, it
should be inclu
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>But is the software going to depend on a stylus? If so, it should be
>made very clear when purchasing that the customer will need to get one.
>Even better wo
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