Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread Patryk Benderz
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 I'm the guy who sent that ware to Cryptome.org, from where those
 torrents were then made. :-)
right... now I remember - Michael Sokolov. I am glad you have changed
your MUA - it is not breaking message's thread anymore :).

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread joerg Reisenweber
Am Thursday 14 February 2013 19:40:35 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon:

  Oh, anybody said glamo?

 You mean this:

 $ hostname
 ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG
 $ ls -l /pub/GSM/GTA02/Glamo
 total 2808
 -rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   248664 Oct 20  2011 Glamo_3362_CmdQ_Spec1.pdf
 -rw-r--r--  1 msokolov  1919990 Oct 20  2011
 Glamo_3362_Datasheet_V1.0-Full.pdf -rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   147740 Oct 20 
 2011 Glamo_3365_2D_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf -rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   390670 Oct
 20  2011 Glamo_3365_3D_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf -rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   102131
 Oct 20  2011 Glamo_3365_MPEG_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf

 Available via anonymous FTP, as usual.

Aha, and do you know how those files made it there?. You obviously don't which 
is a shame. Sorry, you're not worth any further mail. You are a poisonous 
character that doesn't do good for a community.

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread Alex Samorukov

On 02/14/2013 02:05 PM, joerg Reisenweber wrote:
You Sir are a discgrace! A) you are the criminal as you deliberately 
admit. B) We never owned the sourcecode of the GSM stack and you 
know that (Paul explained to you in loving verbosity, a year or 2 
ago). You also know that what Openmoko had access to (mostly the AT 
interpreter) plus much more is available as leaked source in internet 
since ages. We also granted access to what we had to many volunteers 
that didn't sound as lunatic and mad as you did - your fault. C) you 
threatened our engineers in private mail (one or 2 years ago), to a 
degree where anybody else would've sent the police and prosecuted you 
for blackmailing, that's been the point where I suggested nobody of OM 
answering your mails anymore. You think you're a badass? C'mon you 
have no idea what *we* do every day. To me you sound like a silly 
consequential angry child. Oh, anybody said glamo? 
Thank you for details. I personally think that news itself is very 
funny. If we will take out all revolution shit and other pathetic we 
will have only one single message: he was able to compile leaked source 
of firmware for similar (not our) modem. I dont understand where is 
achievement and i would expect that anyone with basic compiler/linker 
knowledge and some free time will be able to repeat this.


It is also absolutely clear that distribution of this sources or 
firmware will be illegal, so it will not be possible to integrate in 
qtmoko or shr or any other open source product. It is also very clear 
that osmocom bb team did much more interesting job, because


1) their sources are not including this stolen code
2) they actually did much more then recompilation.
3) They already were able to run their code on GTA02 modem

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:

 Aha, and do you know how those files made it there?. You obviously don't
 which is a shame.

Shame?  You call it shame that I protect the anonymity of
contributors who have chosen to be anonymous?

The person who contributed the files in question to my FTP server
chose to be anonymous - hence anonymous it stays.

Are you trying to tell us that it was you or someone you know?  If so,
here is my sincere heart-felt thank-you, and a welcome to my side, the
dark side.

Alex Samorukov m...@os2.kiev.ua wrote:

 I dont understand where is 
 achievement and i would expect that anyone with basic compiler/linker 
 knowledge and some free time will be able to repeat this.

You've obviously missed the most important part: my work in now in a
public Hg repository, including my still-ongoing work to further
Unix-ify the build process, i.e., make it less Windows-ish - an obvious
prerequisite to any actual porting  pruning work.

Thanks to this work being done in an open, public source control
repository, others *won't have to* duplicate it.

The work continues; anyone interested is encouraged to check the Hg
repository periodically.  Expecting to do the next hg push in a few
days.  I'm also working with a comrade on setting up a new web home
for this FreeCalypso project, with its own wiki and mailing list, so
we can be our own bona fide community.

 It is also absolutely clear that distribution of this sources or 
 firmware will be illegal,

If you have chosen to live and accept citizenship in a country where
such things are illegal, I feel sorry for you.  If you like, I can
give you a free immigrant/refugee visa to come to my country that has
no such repressive laws.

But otherwise, please keep your draconian laws to yourselves, and
don't try to impose them on those of us who do NOT live or hold
citizenship in any country with copyright laws.

 so it will not be possible to integrate in 
 qtmoko or shr or any other open source product.

But phones with the firmware flashed into them can instead be made
available on the Silk Road, the same place where you would go to
freely buy alternative medicine products such as cocaine, heroin or
MDMA.

(No, I don't use any of the just-listed products myself, but I know
 many wonderful people who do.)

 It is also very clear that osmocom bb team did much more interesting job

When they get their entire stack running on the Calypso, have power
management that is no worse than the original fw, and implement 100%
of the original stack functionality, including fax calls, CSD
(circuit-switched data) and GPRS, then I'll look at it.

Until then, I shall continue working on the FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso code
base.

Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:

 right... now I remember - Michael Sokolov.

I am not using my old name any more, I go by Michael Spacefalcon now.

Yes, I know, my Ancient UNIX email address still has my old last name
as part of my login name - a login name is harder to change than a
gecos field; see http://xkcd.com/910/  I will always keep this email
address for backward compatibility, but I will also have a new one
based on my new name when I get my new mail server set up.

 I am glad you have changed your MUA

Nope, no changes there.

SF

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:16:36 GMT, msoko...@ivan.harhan.org (Michael
Spacefalcon) wrote:

 It is also absolutely clear that distribution of this sources or 
 firmware will be illegal,
 
 If you have chosen to live and accept citizenship in a country where
 such things are illegal, I feel sorry for you.  If you like, I can
 give you a free immigrant/refugee visa to come to my country that has
 no such repressive laws.

Which country is that?

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread Harley Laue

On 02/15/13 10:16, Michael Spacefalcon wrote:



I am glad you have changed your MUA

Nope, no changes there.

I assume that was sarcasm since your MUA isn't correctly adding 
In-Reply-To, or it's operator error.


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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread Patryk Benderz
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 I assume that was sarcasm since your MUA isn't correctly adding 
 In-Reply-To, or it's operator error.
It wasn't sarcasm on my side. I didn't check up on headers. I just
noticed that Michael's emails are correctly displayed in proper place of
thread's structure, thus I assumed he changed his MUA. Apparently I was
wrong... maybe Evolution handles this...?

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread Alex Samorukov

On 02/15/2013 05:56 PM, Bob Ham wrote:

It is also absolutely clear that distribution of this sources or
firmware will be illegal,

If you have chosen to live and accept citizenship in a country where
such things are illegal, I feel sorry for you.  If you like, I can
give you a free immigrant/refugee visa to come to my country that has
no such repressive laws.

Which country is that?


dprk ? :)

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Alex Samorukov m...@os2.kiev.ua wrote:

  Which country is that?
 
 dprk ? :)

Yes, I love it.

SF

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:02:03 GMT, msoko...@ivan.harhan.org (Michael
Spacefalcon) wrote:
 Alex Samorukov m...@os2.kiev.ua wrote:
 
  Which country is that?
 
 dprk ? :)
 
 Yes, I love it.

You moved from Canada to North Korea?

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:

 You moved from Canada to North Korea?

I have never lived in Canada.  I don't live in North Korea either.  In
fact, I don't live anywhere at all - being an active-duty
internationalist operative, I only *operate* in various countries,
working against their governments and laws, but don't actually live
in any of them.

I don't understand why the people here find this concept so difficult
to grasp - that's just how all military forces work.  Both of my
grandfathers were in Germany in the 1940s as part of the Red Army.
They were on German soil, but they weren't living there, and they
most certainly did not obey any of the German laws that were legally
in effect at that time - instead they obeyed the orders of their
Soviet Army commanders.  Ditto with me and the countries I operate in.

This will be my last post in this particular subthread; any further
mails involving the subject of countries won't elicit any response
from me.  Drop the subject and move on.

SF

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-15 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 16:16 +, Michael Spacefalcon wrote:

 If you like, I can
 give you a free immigrant/refugee visa to come to my country

On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 20:24 +, Michael Spacefalcon wrote:
 Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:
 
  You moved from Canada to North Korea?
 
 I don't live anywhere at all

Forgive me, I was confused when you wrote my country.  I presumed you
meant the country where you lived.

Which country were you referring to when you said my country?

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-14 Thread Davide Scaini
Michael you have all my support.
I hope you manage to reach your goal, with or without the help from
other people. (and maybe I will be able to place a decent call with my
gta02 at some point in the future :) it never worked for me)
ciao
d

ps: OT: is fso a dead project?

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-14 Thread joerg Reisenweber
Am Thursday 14 February 2013 08:12:44 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon:
 Harley Laue losinggenerat...@gmail.com wrote:
  While I think the project you're working on is great, you come off
  sounding petty using terms like Closedmoko. I /still/ don't think any
  open hardware phone has come out without some kind of NDA attached to
  some part (I could be wrong.)

 My beef isn't so much with the NDA itself, but with their unwillingness
 to break it all these many years after the company has gone defunct and
 all engineers have been let go.

 I have lost count of how many NDAs I have broken, but it is probably
 somewhere around 20.

 It would be *so* easy for one of those guys to leak the ware completely
 anonymously without ever being identified...  Hence their refusal to
 do so is what makes them criminals in my eyes, and they shall always
 remain so until and unless a leak occurs, anonymous or otherwise.

You Sir are a discgrace! 
A) you are the criminal as you deliberately admit. 
B) We never owned the sourcecode of the GSM stack and you know that (Paul 
explained to you in loving verbosity, a year or 2 ago). You also know that 
what Openmoko had access to (mostly the AT interpreter) plus much more is 
available as leaked source in internet since ages. We also granted access 
to what we had to many volunteers that didn't sound as lunatic and mad as you 
did - your fault.
C) you threatened our engineers in private mail (one or 2 years ago), to a 
degree where anybody else would've sent the police and prosecuted you for 
blackmailing, that's been the point where I suggested nobody of OM answering 
your mails anymore. You think you're a badass? C'mon you have no idea what 
*we* do every day. To me you sound like a silly consequential angry child.

Oh, anybody said glamo?

Best regards
jOERG


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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
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 Lacking the source or even semi-source for the specific version of the
 Calypso GSM firmware
[cut]
There is leaked TSM30 source code for this GSM chipset firmware... maybe
there also is some documentation? Did you checked this?
http://tpb.noflag.org.uk/torrent/6834542/TSM30_Source_Code

http://www.monova.org/torrent/4899164/TSM30_Source_Code.html

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-14 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:

 There is leaked TSM30 source code for this GSM chipset firmware...

Yes, that's exactly what I'm using as my starting point.

 maybe there also is some documentation?

As far as hardware documentation goes, all of it is neatly gathered on
my FTP site: /pub/GSM/Calypso on ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG.  100% complete
as far as I can tell - haven't spotted any omissions yet.

But software documentation is a different story.  The TSM30 source
release is just bare code, no documentation whatsoever, excepting the
scattered comments in the *.[ch] files and build scripts themselves.

My common sense tells me that TI had most likely provided its customers
(handset manufacturers) with some hand-holding documentation on how to
work with their firmware - where to go to make product-specific UI,
hardware support, etc changes, how to flash the firmware, how to talk
to it - setting IMEI numbers, RF calibration, testing, etc.  If some
kindred soul would be willing to leak that documentation (e.g., put it
on a .onion and have some disposable tormail.org account post a link
to it), it would be immensely helpful to the FreeCalypso project.  But
I won't sit and wait for it with bated breath - I'll just bite the
bullet and painstakingly study the code to recover that knowledge.  It
will take longer, but the project will still proceed.

 Did you checked this?
 http://tpb.noflag.org.uk/torrent/6834542/TSM30_Source_Code
 http://www.monova.org/torrent/4899164/TSM30_Source_Code.html

I'm the guy who sent that ware to Cryptome.org, from where those
torrents were then made. :-)

joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:

 You also know that 
 what Openmoko had access to (mostly the AT interpreter) plus much more is 
 available as leaked source in internet since ages.

And you know as well as I do that the widely-available version, the
one I am currently using as my starting point, is set up to target the
wrong hw platform and the wrong feature configuration.  Being able to
take a peek at a version that is already configured as necessary, even
if that version is mostly binary objects, would be a very helpful aid
for the FreeCalypso project seeking to recreate that configuration
starting from the wrong but full-source-available version.

But I will persevere nonetheless, with or without the bits which you
are hoarding.

 We also granted access 
 to what we had to many volunteers that didn't sound as lunatic and mad as you 
 did - your fault.

It isn't just me that you are hurting - it is the entire GTA02 user
community.

I am pretty confident that I can rip out the TMS320DA250 ties from the
FreeTSM30 code base, and make it run on a Calypso-only phone.  I will
also *attempt* to recreate the changes you have make for the moko
version (custom AT commands, wake-up signaling, whatever else is there
that I'm unaware of), that is, recreate them independently while being
denied a peek at your version.  If I succeed in that part, great.  But
if not, I will just screw the GTA0x and find a Calypso-only phone to
use, with no AP and hence no need for the wake-up logic, etc.

Either way, I will have a working cellphone in my pocket, running my
FreeCalypso firmware - which is my goal.  But your refusal to share
the moko-specific modifications you have made to the firmware will
make it less likely that my firmware will be a functional drop-in
replacement for the old one, which obviously has a direct bearing on
others' ability to benefit from my work.

So in the end it will be the community which you are screwing, not me.

 C) you threatened our engineers in private mail (one or 2 years ago),

Not just private email, but quite publicly too, on this very list.

 to a degree where anybody else would've sent the police

Why don't you go right ahead - I challenge all police forces of the
world to try to stop me.

 To me you sound like a silly consequential angry child.

This silly consequential angry child will produce a working,
fully-functional, full source, illegally-free GSM firmware for the
Calypso, and make it available to the entire worldwide community of
lawbreakers, anarchists and revolutionaries.  That *will* happen with
or without your help.

The *only* part that isn't certain is whether or not that firmware
will be usable on GTA02 phones as a drop-in replacement for the old
binary-only one.  If it isn't, the community will know whom to blame.

 Oh, anybody said glamo?

You mean this:

$ hostname
ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG
$ ls -l /pub/GSM/GTA02/Glamo
total 2808
-rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   248664 Oct 20  2011 Glamo_3362_CmdQ_Spec1.pdf
-rw-r--r--  1 msokolov  1919990 Oct 20  2011 Glamo_3362_Datasheet_V1.0-Full.pdf
-rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   147740 Oct 20  2011 Glamo_3365_2D_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf
-rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   390670 Oct 20  2011 Glamo_3365_3D_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf
-rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   102131 Oct 20  2011 
Glamo_3365_MPEG_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf

Available via anonymous FTP, as usual.

Viva la Revolucion,
SF


Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-14 Thread Harley Laue

On 02/14/13 12:40, Michael Spacefalcon wrote:

snip

Oh, anybody said glamo?

You mean this:

$ hostname
ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG
$ ls -l /pub/GSM/GTA02/Glamo
total 2808
-rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   248664 Oct 20  2011 Glamo_3362_CmdQ_Spec1.pdf
-rw-r--r--  1 msokolov  1919990 Oct 20  2011 Glamo_3362_Datasheet_V1.0-Full.pdf
-rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   147740 Oct 20  2011 Glamo_3365_2D_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf
-rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   390670 Oct 20  2011 Glamo_3365_3D_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf
-rw-r--r--  1 msokolov   102131 Oct 20  2011 
Glamo_3365_MPEG_Engine_Spec_v1.0.pdf

Available via anonymous FTP, as usual.

I think he meant: http://people.openmoko.org/sean/datasheets/glamo3362/ 
which is the released (with permission from SMedia) documentation from 
openmoko. I'm guessing the ones you have are  the leaked versions?


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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-13 Thread Harley Laue

On 02/13/2013 09:13 PM, Michael Spacefalcon wrote:

Hello ex-Openmoko community,

The purpose of this announcement is to let everyone interested know
that my effort to liberate the original, fully functional (non-OsmocomBB)
firmware for the Calypso GSM baseband (as found in Closedmoko GTA0[12]
smartphones and many simpler feature phones) has not been abandoned.
While I think the project you're working on is great, you come off 
sounding petty using terms like Closedmoko. I /still/ don't think any 
open hardware phone has come out without some kind of NDA attached to 
some part (I could be wrong.) OpenMoko was about four years ahead of the 
curve in even trying. IMO they deserve a bit more respect for what they 
were able to accomplish. Is short, name calling isn't befitting.


I wish you all the best to be successful in your project, but next time 
a bit more tact would be appreciated.


Lacking the source or even semi-source for the specific version of the
Calypso GSM firmware that was used by the Closedmoko company (FIC), I
am taking the alternate approach: starting from the already-liberated
version of the same Purplelabs GSM stack for a different Calypso phone
(TSM30, aka SPT2C platform), and seeking to back-port it to the
Leonardo (reference board for basic Calypso phone designs) and to the
GTA02 GSM modem.

Specifically, I have just made the first successful step on that long
journey: I have successfully recompiled the Calypso GSM firmware image
from HispaPhreak's source code release, and done so without resorting
to a Windows machine or VM - using Wine version 1.5.23 under Slackware
Linux version 13.37.  Of course it still targets TSM30 hardware, so
don't even think about flashing it into a GTA02, but it's just the
first step of an exciting journey ahead.  Previously I kept saying
that HispaPhreak's TSM30 release *seemed* to be the complete source
for the GSM stack running on the Calypso, but now we know that it
actually *is* complete - yay!

I am doing this work in a Mercurial source control repository, and of
course I share it freely with the world.  Until I get my new Solaris
ZFS-based server up, I have temporarily hosted the Hg repository here:

http://www.harhan.com/Hg/FreeTSM30/

The README file at the top of the Hg source tree summarizes what has
been done before me, what I have done, and what I plan to do next.
The ultimate goal of this project is to back-port the code to run on
the GTA02 Calypso, producing a new GSM firmware image that comes as
close as possible to the original Closedmoko one, but is fully built
from source, no binary blobs.

Of course I am lucky to have a GTA02 unit, which has become a rare
privilege now that the stock has apparently been exhausted.  To those
who don't have a GTA02, desire one, but can't get one because of the
discontinued production and stock exhaustion: don't despair yet!

After we are done liberating the Purplelabs Calypso firmware and
getting it to run on Leonardo/GTA0x platforms (not SPT2C/TSM30), we
can then address the hardware shortage problem by building a new
Calypso-based phone motherboard - essentially do what Golden Delicious
did, but instead of going to that UMTS modem, keep the Calypso.  My
FTP site already has the complete schematics for the Leonardo board
(TI's reference design for a Calypso phone), the PCB layout of the
Calypso block can be recovered by sending a dead GTA02 board to a PCB
reverse engineering shop (think pirate manufacturers), and I have
some ideas as to how/where we may be able to obtain some Calypso chips
and related components.  But this is a topic for much much later -
let's get the firmware liberated first, using our existing GTA02s.
Just don't despair if you aren't one of the lucky GTA02 owners.

Viva la Revolucion,

Michael Spacefalcon,
formerly Michael Sokolov

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Harley Laue wrote:

 I wish you all the best to be successful in your project

It would be much better for him to spend time on getting
NuttxBB/OsmocomBB working, at least the results would be Free Software
and distributable in projects like SHR, QtMoko, Debian, AoF etc.

-- 
bye,
pabs

http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/

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Re: FreeTSM30/FreeCalypso project started

2013-02-13 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Harley Laue losinggenerat...@gmail.com wrote:

 While I think the project you're working on is great, you come off 
 sounding petty using terms like Closedmoko. I /still/ don't think any 
 open hardware phone has come out without some kind of NDA attached to 
 some part (I could be wrong.)

My beef isn't so much with the NDA itself, but with their unwillingness
to break it all these many years after the company has gone defunct and
all engineers have been let go.

I have lost count of how many NDAs I have broken, but it is probably
somewhere around 20.

It would be *so* easy for one of those guys to leak the ware completely
anonymously without ever being identified...  Hence their refusal to
do so is what makes them criminals in my eyes, and they shall always
remain so until and unless a leak occurs, anonymous or otherwise.

Just to be clear, I shall continue with my FreeCalypso project based
on HispaPhreak's release whether or not we ever get a leak of the
Closedmoko bits.  After all, the latter were mostly object code as
we've all been told (let me guess guys, your TI bits have files like
l1c.lk, l1d.lk, gmm.lk etc, right?), whereas HispaPhreak's version is
100% full source.  It is unfortunate that the full source version
targets the wrong hw platform, and it will take some work to back-port
it to Leonardo/GTA0x, but the result (a full source fw version for the
GTA02) will certainly be worth it.  But if someone does leak the
semi-source for the moko version, it would probably help a lot
with guiding the back-porting effort, particularly when the time comes
to recreate the moko-specific logic of the AP and BP signaling each
other to wake up.

SF

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