Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-09-03 Thread joerg Reisenweber
Hi! just as a short newsflash: we got 258 votes-of-interest and even 30 that are willing to pay =700EUR for a Neo900 aka GTA04-NeoN board plus housing and other needed parts. Follow the hype at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 cheers jOERG -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-28 Thread arne anka
I would say, maemo fremantle is great. if we could manage to make it free, i. e. rewrite it's non-free parts, and make it available on more platforms, like nexus, it'll be great. having free hardware in n900 case it good too. but first of all let's get working free, indeed free maemo. not the

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:12 AM, arne anka wrote: maemo isn't great If I were using Maemo, I guess the biggest problem for me would be security support, I wonder if there is any right now? imo, the way to go would be to port all of maemo to debian thereby getting Your wording isn't clear

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-28 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Wed 28 August 2013 10:33:47 Paul Wise wrote: There is some info about how different Maemo (all versions) is from Debian in these files: http://dex.alioth.debian.org/census/Maemo/sources.new http://dex.alioth.debian.org/census/Maemo/sources.patches

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-28 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Non-free maemo isn't redistributable. There's must be free maemo version. The existing version won't be possible to flash to gta-04 because it is currently not possible to do that. It's different hardware. Otherwise it won't be necessary to port SHR to n900, that's obvious. So, in order to

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-28 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Wed 28 August 2013 22:21:18 Norayr Chilingarian wrote: [...] Also, I believe many apps like GPS apps which use liblocation won't work, because liblocation is proprietary, and needs to be rewritten with the same interface. GolDeliCo won't ship the Neo900 with maemo pre-installed. We got (or

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:14 AM, joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: While rewriting blobs is a long term minor goal of CSSU [1], we won't do a complete rewrite of every closed blob for Neo900 fremantle-port. Actually if we did, we could use any arbitrary hardware ülatform and just

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-27 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 26.08.2013 um 16:24 schrieb Tomas Nackaerts: Hi all! I actually think this is a great idea! I always liked the N900 formfactor. But is it technically possible? I remember somebody mention that the option modem is quite big? Yes, but it is the flattest one we could get. And from the

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-27 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 26.08.2013 um 14:35 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: Hello! Short introduction, as I was rather inactive in this community recently: I'm dos, long time Openmoko supporter, owner of GTA02 and (now broken) Nokia N900. Few years ago I was quite an active developer of FSO (opimd) and SHR.

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-26 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] What do you think? Hello Dos, I think it is great showcase how open projects can benefit from synergy. However I personally am not interested in HW keyboard and I will wait until my present phone wears off, before I buy next device. -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-26 Thread Tomas Nackaerts
Hi all! I actually think this is a great idea! I always liked the N900 formfactor. But is it technically possible? I remember somebody mention that the option modem is quite big? And if there will be a redesign the fit the gta04 to the n900 will it possible to update the specs a bit? faster

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-26 Thread arne anka
the most striking part of jörg's n900 idea seems not to attract any comments -- he said, he'd know at least one company who would be interested. being interested does not necessarily translate into will buy, but at least it would be worth to contemplate ...

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-26 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Mon 26 August 2013 21:47:08 arne anka wrote: the most striking part of jörg's n900 idea seems not to attract any comments -- he said, he'd know at least one company who would be interested. Oh? where did I say this? Been a communication error. Or a complete storage dropout ;-) Sorry both

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-26 Thread arne anka
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:25:06 +0200, joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: On Mon 26 August 2013 21:47:08 arne anka wrote: the most striking part of jörg's n900 idea seems not to attract any comments -- he said, he'd know at least one company who would be interested. Oh? where did I

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-26 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Mon 26 August 2013 14:35:50 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: [...] Joerg's idea includes full port of Maemo 5 (Fremantle) to allow N900 users to have drop-in upgrade - just like now GTA04 is for GTA01/02 owners. I think that can increase interest a lot! Indeed I consider maemo fremantle

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-26 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
I would say, maemo fremantle is great. if we could manage to make it free, i. e. rewrite it's non-free parts, and make it available on more platforms, like nexus, it'll be great. having free hardware in n900 case it good too. but first of all let's get working free, indeed free maemo. not the