Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?

2010-03-05 Thread Paul Fertser
Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be writes:
 See the second pin from the left?  I assumed it was pin 4 (ID) because 
 of the pinout images on Wikipedia, but I think it may actually be pin 2 
 (D-). 

I think it is D- and it is broken, so yes, the only option is to
replace the socket it seems...

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Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?

2010-03-04 Thread William Kenworthy
Not using a hub (same ports on the same laptop) - some cables work, some
dont, only the cable differs :(

BillK



On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:58 +0100, Ed Kapitein wrote:
 Or try a diffrent hub/no hub at all.
 My FR works fine with the same cable plugged into my desktop POC, but
 when i plug the same cable in one of my hubs, it only charges and no
 data connection is possible
 
 Kind regrads,
 Ed
 
 On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 15:39 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
  I'll second that - bought two cables while on holiday as I forgot to
  pack one.  Neither will work for data, but will charge. The others I
  have at home work fine.
  
  BillK
  
  
  
  On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 18:11 +1100, Michael Smith wrote:
   On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:19:35 -0800
   Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote:
   
Brolin Empey wrote:
Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can
 still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a
 solder connection must have come undone.
   
   Have you tried a different USB cable?
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Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?

2010-03-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be writes:
 ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle

Ok this proves that the usb controller is alive and the problem is
probably just mechanical.


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Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?

2010-03-04 Thread Brolin Empey
William Kenworthy wrote:
 Not using a hub (same ports on the same laptop) - some cables work, some
 dont, only the cable differs :(

I am not using a USB hub either.  I have USB cables which work fine for 
both power + data with other devices, such as a 2.5 HDD enclosure, but 
do not work with my FreeRunner. :(

Is it possible my USB port problem is caused by pin 4 (ID) of the mini 
USB connector(s)?  See the “USB 1.x/2.0 Miniplug/Microplug” table on 
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Universal_Serial_Busoldid=347473693#Cables.

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Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?

2010-03-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 04 March 2010, Brolin Empey wrote:
 William Kenworthy wrote:
  Not using a hub (same ports on the same laptop) - some cables work, some
  dont, only the cable differs :(
 
 I am not using a USB hub either.  I have USB cables which work fine for
 both power + data with other devices, such as a 2.5 HDD enclosure, but
 do not work with my FreeRunner. :(
 
 Is it possible my USB port problem is caused by pin 4 (ID) of the mini
 USB connector(s)?  See the “USB 1.x/2.0 Miniplug/Microplug” table on
 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Universal_Serial_Busoldid=34747
 3693#Cables.

Pin 4 is not normally connected in usb cables, so that shouldn't be it. If you 
have a problem with pin 4 the most likely issue would be not recognising the 
mains charger as a high current device.

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Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?

2010-03-04 Thread Brolin Empey
Al Johnson wrote:
 On Thursday 04 March 2010, Brolin Empey wrote:
 Is it possible my USB port problem is caused by pin 4 (ID) of the mini
 USB connector(s)?  See the “USB 1.x/2.0 Miniplug/Microplug” table on
 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Universal_Serial_Busoldid=34747
 3693#Cables.

 Pin 4 is not normally connected in usb cables, so that shouldn't be it. If you
 have a problem with pin 4 the most likely issue would be not recognising the
 mains charger as a high current device.

I disassembled my FreeRunner again and used a digital multimeter to 
verify the continuity between the ends of the pins in the USB socket and 
the USB socket’s leads connected to the PCB.  All pins are connected, 
but only if the contact in the plug on the USB cable contacts the pin in 
the socket.

I tried to take a clear photo of my FreeRunner’s USB socket without 
using a microscope or other magnifying device other than my camera’s 
lens, but I could not get a completely satisfactory (completely clear) 
photo.  Now I need to recharge my camera’s battery after I am home 
tonight, but I cannot add a task in QtMoko to remind me because my 
FreeRunner is still disassembled. :(  I moved my active SIM card to my 
crappy Nokia 6103b so I still have a phone until my FreeRunner is fixed.

Anyway, here is a cropped version of one of the best photos I managed to 
take:

http://brolin.be/graphics/FreeRunner_Mini_USB_F_5-pin.jpg

See the second pin from the left?  I assumed it was pin 4 (ID) because 
of the pinout images on Wikipedia, but I think it may actually be pin 2 
(D-).  This would explain why Windows claims my FreeRunner has 
malfunctioned:  because only one of the data lines is connected.  In any 
case, there are at least 2 strange things about that exceptional pin:

1. Why does it not have black plastic above it like the other 4 pins?
2. Why does it not go up to contact the contacts in the plug on the USB 
cable like the other pins?  Did I somehow end up bending it like that?

I need to have someone at work replace the entire USB socket (assuming 
we have a spare).

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Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?

2010-03-03 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 03-03-2010 19:19, Brolin Empey escreveu:
 Brolin Empey wrote:
 Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can
 still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a
 solder connection must have come undone. I need to try disassembling my
 FreeRunner to check the connections for the USB connector so I can ask
 someone at work to fix (resolder) the connection, but I have not yet
 done so. It must be a hardware problem because QtMoko can still charge,
 but nothing happens when I connect USB devices to my FreeRunner: no
 kernel modules are automatically loaded, there are no kernel messages.
 Manually loading the kernel modules (e.g., dm9601 for my USB→Ethernet
 adapter) for the USB device does not help. It is not because of the
 electrical/logical USB host/device setting because I checked that; I
 know how to use sysfs to change it.

I don't want to seem cocky, but did you try do ifdown usb0 ; ifup usb0
in vala-terminal?

If still has no IP and connectivity, ifconfig usb0 IP netmask NETMASK ?

Rui

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Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?

2010-03-03 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be writes:
 I have fully reassembled my FreeRunner;  it still works, except for USB 
 data.  However, now I really think this is a hardware problem because 

Just a check: can you see internal bluetooth chip if you power it up
and run lsusb on the phone?

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Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?

2010-03-03 Thread Michael Smith
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:19:35 -0800
Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote:

 Brolin Empey wrote:
 Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can
  still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a
  solder connection must have come undone.

Have you tried a different USB cable?
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Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?

2010-03-03 Thread William Kenworthy
I'll second that - bought two cables while on holiday as I forgot to
pack one.  Neither will work for data, but will charge. The others I
have at home work fine.

BillK



On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 18:11 +1100, Michael Smith wrote:
 On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:19:35 -0800
 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote:
 
  Brolin Empey wrote:
  Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can
   still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a
   solder connection must have come undone.
 
 Have you tried a different USB cable?
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Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?

2010-03-03 Thread Ed Kapitein
Or try a diffrent hub/no hub at all.
My FR works fine with the same cable plugged into my desktop POC, but
when i plug the same cable in one of my hubs, it only charges and no
data connection is possible

Kind regrads,
Ed

On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 15:39 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
 I'll second that - bought two cables while on holiday as I forgot to
 pack one.  Neither will work for data, but will charge. The others I
 have at home work fine.
 
 BillK
 
 
 
 On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 18:11 +1100, Michael Smith wrote:
  On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:19:35 -0800
  Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote:
  
   Brolin Empey wrote:
   Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can
still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a
solder connection must have come undone.
  
  Have you tried a different USB cable?

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