Re: NVidia S-O-C

2008-07-14 Thread arne anka
have a look at the archives -- there were some lengthy threads about that  
recently ...

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Re: NVidia S-O-C

2008-07-14 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Francesco Cat
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 Nvidia seems to care about Linux and OpenSource

In what world have you been living for the last 10 years or so?

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Re: NVidia S-O-C

2008-07-14 Thread Álvaro Lopes
Francesco Cat wrote:
 I found this System on a Chip by NVidia:
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra_600.html and
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html
 
 It is something A-M-A-Z-I-N-G and I say I would love to see it on a GTA04 ;)
 
 What do you think about? Will we have a chance to see it? Or it is
 pure dreaming since it won't be open at all?
 Nvidia seems to care about Linux and OpenSource, we might try a ride ;)

OpenSource ?

They care about Linux (good thing [?!?!]) cause they have a market opportunity 
there. I am not so sure they care about opensource at all.

I like nVidia graphics cause they have both performance and a nice driver. But, 
if I had a choice, I'd choose some other vendor.

Álvaro

 
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Re: NVidia S-O-C

2008-07-14 Thread Wolfgang Silbermayr
Francesco Cat wrote:
 I found this System on a Chip by NVidia:
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra_600.html and
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html
 
 It is something A-M-A-Z-I-N-G and I say I would love to see it on a GTA04 ;)
 
 What do you think about? Will we have a chance to see it? Or it is
 pure dreaming since it won't be open at all?
 Nvidia seems to care about Linux and OpenSource, we might try a ride ;)

Where do you see any real care about Linux and OpenSource from nvidia?
If, then they only care a little bit about Linux, but they don't seem to
care about OpenSource at all - at least this is the case for their
graphics chips. I can't find any register specification or open drivers
for this SOC either.

Greetings, silwol.

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Re: NVidia S-O-C

2008-07-14 Thread thomasg
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I found this System on a Chip by NVidia:
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra_600.html and
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html

 It is something A-M-A-Z-I-N-G and I say I would love to see it on a GTA04
 ;)

 What do you think about? Will we have a chance to see it? Or it is
 pure dreaming since it won't be open at all?
 Nvidia seems to care about Linux and OpenSource, we might try a ride ;)


Let's make it short: not gonna happen.
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Re: NVidia S-O-C

2008-07-14 Thread Arne Zachlod
on heise.de they wrote something about windows-support only.


Francesco Cat schrieb:
 I found this System on a Chip by NVidia:
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra_600.html and
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html

 It is something A-M-A-Z-I-N-G and I say I would love to see it on a GTA04 ;)

 What do you think about? Will we have a chance to see it? Or it is
 pure dreaming since it won't be open at all?
 Nvidia seems to care about Linux and OpenSource, we might try a ride ;)

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Re: NVidia S-O-C

2008-07-14 Thread Francesco Cat
Ok fine sorry for mistakes about OpenSource and whatever.

2008/7/14 thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I found this System on a Chip by NVidia:
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra_600.html and
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html

 It is something A-M-A-Z-I-N-G and I say I would love to see it on a GTA04
 ;)

 What do you think about? Will we have a chance to see it? Or it is
 pure dreaming since it won't be open at all?
 Nvidia seems to care about Linux and OpenSource, we might try a ride ;)

 Let's make it short: not gonna happen.


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Re: NVidia S-O-C

2008-07-14 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Francesco Cat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ehm... I don't get what you meant to say...

You said you thought they cared about Linux / Open Source.  In the
last 10 years, I haven't seen a single hint that they do.  One
possible (absurd) explanation is that we've been observing different
Nvidias from different worlds or dimensions.  Hence the question.

--tim

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Re: NVidia S-O-C

2008-07-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:37:46 +0200 Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 I found this System on a Chip by NVidia:
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra_600.html and
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html
 
 It is something A-M-A-Z-I-N-G and I say I would love to see it on a GTA04 ;)
 
 What do you think about? Will we have a chance to see it? Or it is
 pure dreaming since it won't be open at all?
 Nvidia seems to care about Linux and OpenSource, we might try a ride ;)

they do? let me know the day their accelerated drivers for 3d are open, and
i'll re-assess that situation. until nvidia come open on their desktops i doubt
they will consider being open on their SOC's - the day they have open drivers
for their SOC's - let us know. until then they are a totally uninteresting SOC
vendor.

openmoko is about open. first and foremost. i would love hyper-performing
amazing graphics and system grunt like anyone else - but NOT at the cost of
being open. see the archives on this - this has come up before recently and
openmoko's position on this made clear. :)

-- 
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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