RE: New input method demo!
Hi, I've just recently started a project: https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmoko-input/ Please feel free to join it! I haven't really started at using the SVN there yet, so the source I've got so far can be downloaded from www.scienco.org/openmoko-input.tar.gz - I'll put it in the project SVN ASAP. I'm aware that the separation of the library and the inputting itself isn't fulfilled at this time, but we are clearly suppose to do that ASAP, too. As mentioned earlier, I'm really not a great C-programmer; I've mainly done C# earlier, so please feel free to comment :-). Regards, Mikkel - Original Besked fra: List for OpenMoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Til: community@lists.openmoko.org community@lists.openmoko.org Emne: Re: Sv: New input method demo! Dato: 29/10/07 10:49 Mikkel Meyer Andersen skrev: Hi, I've also tried to develop a keyboard for finger-use. I started with developing a dictionary library, and have only made a very simple GUI to use it. I haven't seen you keyboard yet, but I'm really looking forward to. In addition to this, I hope to be able to incorporate the dictionary I've made. I'm been thinking about this for a while... And Yes thanks... I want to play with it. While the app often have better knowledge, it make sens to put the logic in one place. To give all apps completion, and to avoid duplication. An api to let apps control what they need would probably not be too complicated ether. So, Yes... Where can I find the code and data? I would also want to find a list of the most used English words... To add directly in the keyboard layout. It is better for short words then completion, and the most used words is often short. As positions in the keyboard layout have to be memorized to work fast it will work for far less words. So completion is a nice complement. /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New input method demo!
Hi, I watched the demo... Looks nice! Maybe I have an interesting idea for you we could talk about... I know that this is only a demo, but for the better productivity (less training needed) it would be nice if you would build up a standard keyboard layout I mean - first button means Space - then left (better a circle left - like iPods) jumps a step left (as long as I draw the circle) to ALT,STRG ,...) If I raise the finger and then scratch up it goes to the upper next line yxcvbnm,.- where the 'b' or 'n' is highlightet That sounds easy I hope?! What do you think?! Maybe then the capital keys could be used by one of the three starting buttons... Possibilitys of selecting: - pressing : select - press and move up : go up one selection line - press and move down : go gown one selection line - press and move left : go left one character - press and move left in a circle left go left for as many characters as the circle moves - ... The keys in the currently selected row could be shown in a list right above the button... (I use your ascii from the readme) |* *| y x c v* bbb *n m , . -scrolls through the screen with the currently selectet in the middle |*__*| || |SHFT* SEL *CTRL| |*__*| Was it understandable what I meant?? What do you think of this way of typing?! Best regards, Mario - Original Message - From: Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for OpenMoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Freitag, 26. Oktober 2007 4.44 Uhr (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin Subject: Re: New input method demo! Or you can read the Readme, there's an ascii drawing and the two paragraph helps you understand how it's used. Simon On 10/25/07, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent skrev: On 25/10/2007, *Zalunin Pavel* yeah, please let us see I've made a screencast: Thanks /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New input method demo!
This kind of keyboard looks quite impressive to me. The only detail is it might be nice to optimize it for different things such as programming or english text. I couldn't try it out, but have you thought sorting the characters in order of difficulty to type them according to their popularity (in english text, irc style text with ;) and for programing with lots of symbols). I believe it could be possible to ask the user to provide (the software) an example of documents they most often work on. (For me C++) And the prog would count the chars and update the keyboard mapping to adjust for that. Chars that were not found in document will take the default popularity... Anyway, might be a good addition to the wishlist! =) Simon On 10/25/07, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New demo, download 3key package at: https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=42 Short intro: 3key demo - input method for touchscreen (both finger and stylus). All good things are three. This is my third demo and it uses three keys! goal * Be usable with one hand (hold phone and type with the thumb). - Reached in full. * Use little space on the screen. The application should have it! - Reached in full (take less space then the qwerty keyboard). * Be usable without visual contact (type in Your pocket). - Reached. * Reach all chars and functions and be extendable. - Reached in full, extendability not implemented in the demo. * Be usable without training, even if slow. - Reached, You should get it under one minute. * Reach descent speed, even if it takes training. - Reached, but takes allot of training and is still no high speed method. The speed is approximately twice as good with stylus vs one handed thumb writing. Two handed typing with one finger is somewhere in the middle. /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New input method demo!
Any screenshot? Thanks, 2007/10/25, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New demo, download 3key package at: https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=42 Short intro: 3key demo - input method for touchscreen (both finger and stylus). All good things are three. This is my third demo and it uses three keys! goal * Be usable with one hand (hold phone and type with the thumb). - Reached in full. * Use little space on the screen. The application should have it! - Reached in full (take less space then the qwerty keyboard). * Be usable without visual contact (type in Your pocket). - Reached. * Reach all chars and functions and be extendable. - Reached in full, extendability not implemented in the demo. * Be usable without training, even if slow. - Reached, You should get it under one minute. * Reach descent speed, even if it takes training. - Reached, but takes allot of training and is still no high speed method. The speed is approximately twice as good with stylus vs one handed thumb writing. Two handed typing with one finger is somewhere in the middle. /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New input method demo!
yeah, please let us see __ Best Regards , Zalunin Pavel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New input method demo!
On 25/10/2007, Zalunin Pavel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, please let us see I've made a screencast: Ogg - http://download185.mediafire.com/ydgn9myztddg/8gv01d9fq7j/out.ogg Avi - http://www.viddler.com/show_movie!orgFile.action?movieToken=b6ed9b11 Flash - http://www.viddler.com/explore/Vincentt/videos/16/ __ Best Regards , Zalunin Pavel Best, -- Vincent ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New input method demo!
Vincent skrev: On 25/10/2007, *Zalunin Pavel* yeah, please let us see I've made a screencast: Thanks /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New input method demo!
Or you can read the Readme, there's an ascii drawing and the two paragraph helps you understand how it's used. Simon On 10/25/07, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent skrev: On 25/10/2007, *Zalunin Pavel* yeah, please let us see I've made a screencast: Thanks /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
