Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-09-02 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, just a final update, in case it helps.

Right after boot, 'xset q' says this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# DISPLAY=:0 xset q
Keyboard Control:
  auto repeat:  onkey click percent:  0LED mask:  
  auto repeating keys:  00ffdbbf
fadfffedfffe

ff7f
  bell percent:  50bell pitch:  400bell duration:  100
Pointer Control:
  acceleration:  2/1threshold:  4
Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  noallow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  30cycle:  0
Colors:
  default colormap:  0x20BlackPixel:  0WhitePixel:  65535
Font Path:
  built-ins
Bug Mode: compatibility mode is disabled
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Display is not capable of DPMS
Font cache:
  Server does not have the FontCache Extension

After I do 'xset off' followed by 'xset on', 'xset q' says:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# DISPLAY=:0 xset q
Keyboard Control:
  auto repeat:  onkey click percent:  0LED mask:  
  auto repeating keys:  00ffdbbf
fadfffedfffe

ff7f
  bell percent:  50bell pitch:  400bell duration:  100
Pointer Control:
  acceleration:  2/1threshold:  4
Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  yesallow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  600cycle:  600
Colors:
  default colormap:  0x20BlackPixel:  0WhitePixel:  65535
Font Path:
  built-ins
Bug Mode: compatibility mode is disabled
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Display is not capable of DPMS
Font cache:
  Server does not have the FontCache Extension

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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-09-01 Thread Maciej Delmanowski
On Aug 31, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
 1) http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/

Hello everyone, it's my first post here. :-)

It might be blunt, but does anyone have old images of 2008.8-update without
this problem with unconditional suspend? Or maybe there could be an archive
of, say, week of packages (they have date in their filename anyway), so if one
version doesn't suddenly do what you want, you can always try the previous
one?

Best regards,
Maciej Delmanowski / harnir


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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-09-01 Thread David Samblas
seems that the 20080901 solves this, but no apps :) only settings, I suppose
there will be no problem on intall them from repository this afternoon I
will give a try

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Maciej Delmanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Aug 31, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
  1) http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/

 Hello everyone, it's my first post here. :-)

 It might be blunt, but does anyone have old images of 2008.8-update without
 this problem with unconditional suspend? Or maybe there could be an archive
 of, say, week of packages (they have date in their filename anyway), so if
 one
 version doesn't suddenly do what you want, you can always try the previous
 one?

 Best regards,
 Maciej Delmanowski / harnir


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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-09-01 Thread Maciej Delmanowski
On Sep 01, David Samblas wrote:
 seems that the 20080901 solves this, but no apps :) only settings, I suppose
 there will be no problem on intall them from repository this afternoon I will
 give a try

I installed this image few minutes ago and it still suspends after 30s of
screen inactivity, even with suspend turned off.

harnir


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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-09-01 Thread Ole Kliemann
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 03:27:41PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Michael Zanetti
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you are just working over ssh I have a small workaround for you. Most of
 
 Ah - very useful - thank you. :-)
 
  the time, before the Neo suspends, the X-Screensaver comes up. If you wake 
  the
 
 Hmm, perhaps the xscreensaver is involved in this?
 Does anyone know where the suspend parameters (for lack of a better
 term) is stored?
 Or which command is used to change them?

Yes, seems to be the screensaver. Switch it off with `xset s off'. But
it seems to disable suspend completely, no matter what you set in
settings.

Ole


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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-09-01 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Monday 01 September 2008 12:51:10 Ole Kliemann wrote:
 Yes, seems to be the screensaver. Switch it off with `xset s off'. But
 it seems to disable suspend completely, no matter what you set in
 settings.

Great. Thanks. This makes it usable at least. 
I have tried 2008.08-update with the testing feed int the meantime. The issue 
seems to be resolved there. So we may get a fix for this in the near future.

And now, back to stable feeds :) (testing currently seems to have problem with 
gtk GUI painting)



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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-09-01 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi,

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Ole Kliemann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, seems to be the screensaver. Switch it off with `xset s off'. But

Thanks. Using
DISPLAY=:0 xset s off

(via ssh) works.

 it seems to disable suspend completely, no matter what you set in
 settings.

Interesting - if i turn the screensaver off, then on again, 'xset q'
now reports:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# DISPLAY=:0 xset s on
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# DISPLAY=:0 xset q
Keyboard Control:
  auto repeat:  onkey click percent:  0LED mask:  
  auto repeating keys:  00ffdbbf
fadfffedfffe

ff7f
  bell percent:  50bell pitch:  400bell duration:  100
Pointer Control:
  acceleration:  2/1threshold:  4
Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  yesallow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  600cycle:  600
Colors:
  default colormap:  0x20BlackPixel:  0WhitePixel:  65535
Font Path:
  built-ins
Bug Mode: compatibility mode is disabled
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Display is not capable of DPMS
Font cache:
  Server does not have the FontCache Extension

It now seems like the screensaver timeout is set to 600 (seconds?).
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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-08-31 Thread Thomas B.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 02:46:05PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I just flashed my FreeRunner with the latest kernel and rootfs from
 Om2008.8 update[1]. Images dated August 31st, to be precise.
 After booting, I discovered that the FR suspends after 30 secs. No
 problem, I'll just go into settings and turn off suspend.
 
 But it doesn't work. No matter what I set suspend to, it always
 suspends after 30 secs (unless I continually tap the screen).
 
 I guess everybody understands how frustrating it is trying to work
 with a device that suspends every 30 secs. Since I don't have three
 hands, it is very difficult to to try to fix things via usb.
 I see from the support list that a couple of other people also have
 disovered this issue, but no solution. I tried looking at trac, but
 couldn't find anything.

http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1928

 Please, any hints on how to fix this?

Not yet, AFAIK.

Regards,
Thomas


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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hello,

On Sunday 31 August 2008 14:46:05 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
 Hello,

 I just flashed my FreeRunner with the latest kernel and rootfs from
 Om2008.8 update[1]. Images dated August 31st, to be precise.
 After booting, I discovered that the FR suspends after 30 secs. No
 problem, I'll just go into settings and turn off suspend.

 But it doesn't work. No matter what I set suspend to, it always
 suspends after 30 secs (unless I continually tap the screen).


Confirmed. I'm trying to fight the same issue right now. Unfortunately I have 
no solution so far.

 I guess everybody understands how frustrating it is trying to work
 with a device that suspends every 30 secs. Since I don't have three
 hands, it is very difficult to to try to fix things via usb.
 I see from the support list that a couple of other people also have
 disovered this issue, but no solution. I tried looking at trac, but
 couldn't find anything.

 Please, any hints on how to fix this?


If you are just working over ssh I have a small workaround for you. Most of 
the time, before the Neo suspends, the X-Screensaver comes up. If you wake the 
Neo up without touching the screen (screen should be left blank with backlight 
slightly on) it doesn't suspend any more until you touch the screen (stop the 
screensaver). As it happens quite often that you need to touch the screen 
while testing, this is not a real workaround. But it can help just doing some 
installs, configs or something else on the terminal without having to touch 
your screen every 20 seconds to prevent suspending.



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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-08-31 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi,

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Thomas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1928

Yes, that is the one.

 Not yet, AFAIK.

I tried with the 'apm' command, but it is useless for this - iyt can
only show parameters and suspend the phone, not change suspend timer.
Crap.
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Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally

2008-08-31 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello,

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Michael Zanetti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you are just working over ssh I have a small workaround for you. Most of

Ah - very useful - thank you. :-)

 the time, before the Neo suspends, the X-Screensaver comes up. If you wake the

Hmm, perhaps the xscreensaver is involved in this?
Does anyone know where the suspend parameters (for lack of a better
term) is stored?
Or which command is used to change them?
-- 
Regards,
Torfinn

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