Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-25 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Wednesday, 24 de June de 2009 22:25:29 Xavier Cremaschi va escriure:
 I see none of my contacts... am I missing something obvious or is it a bug
 ?

Th OP states that there is a chance to losse the contacts under known isues:

Before install this release  backup your contacts in ~/.paroli/ as there have  
   
been some reports of contacts being deleted. One bug relating to missing
 
contacts has been fixed but there's a chance that there is another one. Also

make sure your home directory is on a journaling filesystem

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-25 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
 Th OP states that there is a chance to losse the contacts under known isues:


Would be nice, if somebody could confirm, if loosing contact is still the case.
And the exact step to reproduce it.

There is only one minor issue, namely if the contacts are on the sim too. In
that case, the sim contacts overwrites the paroli contacts, so you cant
modify the contact permanently only until the next paroli restart or reboot.

But Im waiting for a consensus, what should be the future of PIM, should
we develop the current solution, or should we integrate opimd?
It is not clear at all to me, so I dont spend time to fixes these bugs;)

Laszlo

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread pike
Hi

is it me or is xrandr or xglamo
a bit confused ?

I do
 export DISPLAY=:0
 xrandr -q
  480x64050.0*
  640x48025.0
  240x32050.0
  320x24050.0

but it doesnt actually seem to support
all that on my neo.

 xrandr -o left
that works (and selects the second option)

 xrandr -s 320x240

gives a weird screen with two
vertical pages on a horizontal screen,
with a slight offset, mosaic.

starting from scratch, the
 xrandr -s 320x240
turns the screen all white/yellowish
and unreadable.

after switching a few times, x crashes.
restarting xserver-nodm twice repairs it.

what am i doing wrong ?

curious,
*-pike

PS - I installed opendoom - it has the same
problem, its trying to rotate the screen
into 320x240, but the screen goes yellow
most of the time.. which is why I was
trying to look into this.

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Edder
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:43 PM, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote:

 PS - I installed opendoom - it has the same
 problem, its trying to rotate the screen
 into 320x240, but the screen goes yellow
 most of the time.. which is why I was
 trying to look into this.


I noticed the same problem with duke3d, which is a shame, because showing
off duke3d would make a lot of people very jealous :)
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes:
 after switching a few times, x crashes.
 restarting xserver-nodm twice repairs it.

 what am i doing wrong ?

You are not reading the bug reports :-)

A simple search for glamo at e.g.

http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/openmoko-bugs.py?q=glamo

finds

#2263 xf86-video-glamo/703acea13: xrandr --output LCD --mode 240x320 incorrect 
screen position

Also, you did not very clearly specify if you are using Xglamo or
Xorg with xserver-xorg-video-glamo.



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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes:
  after switching a few times, x crashes.
  restarting xserver-nodm twice repairs it.
 
  what am i doing wrong ?

 You are not reading the bug reports :-)

 A simple search for glamo at e.g.

 http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/openmoko-bugs.py?q=glamo

 finds

 #2263 xf86-video-glamo/703acea13: xrandr --output LCD --mode 240x320
 incorrect screen position

 Also, you did not very clearly specify if you are using Xglamo or
 Xorg with xserver-xorg-video-glamo.

Om2009 is specified in the subject, and AFAIK this is still using Xglamo, so 
this bug doesn't seem to be relevant.

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes:
 Om2009 is specified in the subject, and AFAIK this is still using Xglamo, so 
 this bug doesn't seem to be relevant.

The Xorg driver was created from the Xglamo source. Also, the bug is
in kernel so it should apply to both.



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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread pike
Hi

 what am i doing wrong ?
 You are not reading the bug reports :-)

you're so right.

did now, and its tracced here.
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2162

fwiw, this bug is in om2009 testing release5,
cleanly flashed. and with some fiddling like

# export DISPLAY=:0
# xrandr -s 320x240 -o left
# echo qvga-normal  /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state
# dm

I did get it to work, temporarily.

 Also, you did not very clearly specify if you are using Xglamo or
 Xorg with xserver-xorg-video-glamo.

because I wouldn't have a clue, sorry :-)

thanks,
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michal Brzozowski wrote:
 Now I have Serenity again, the illume keyboard is turned off again
 (yay), the battery app shows the state wrong (!)

Ive not tried with paroli, but when I compile e17 from svn and I upgrade
the version I've in my Om2008 partition I've to go in Illume-settings -
Advanced - Battery Meter - Advanced - Hardware - Internal.
Then it counts correctly.

 I don't understand anything from this, why is Paroli duplicating the
 options from illume-settings?

Well, imho having everything in a settings manager could be useful.

 And a more general question, is Paroli trying to be more than a phone
 app? Is it going to replace illume?

According to the FAQ it isn't.
By the way in my opinion Paroli should allow to be run in two ways:
using its own launcher as an all-in-one/fullscreen application, and
using illume as launcher; In fact the paroli apps can be also launched
using a simple dbus call, but actually they seem to work only if the
launcher is still opened (while launching them with the main Launcher in
background causes Paroli to crash).

However it would be important to keep the dialer/log/contacts/messages
and other main paroli applications always in background to make them
popping-up quckly.

I think that this would be the best way to use the nice paroli telephony
related applications with an illume-based distro.

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
m...@3v1n0.net wrote:

 Michal Brzozowski wrote:
  Now I have Serenity again, the illume keyboard is turned off again
  (yay), the battery app shows the state wrong (!)

 Ive not tried with paroli, but when I compile e17 from svn and I upgrade
 the version I've in my Om2008 partition I've to go in Illume-settings -
 Advanced - Battery Meter - Advanced - Hardware - Internal.
 Then it counts correctly.

Yepp it works. Thanks.


  I don't understand anything from this, why is Paroli duplicating the
  options from illume-settings?

Because when you use your phone do you care which engine it renders?
For a simple (smart)phone you only want to set the basic (everyday) things.

Thats why it is a dedicated settings app inside paroli. Keep it simple
and stupid;)

Laszlo

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
I see none of my contacts... am I missing something obvious or is it a bug ?

Xavier.


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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/19 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm

  I had the phone go into unresumable suspend. I received a call while it
 was suspended, it woke up and I answered the call. I don't remember if I put
 it down or the other side. Then the phone went to suspend again, and there
 was another call coming, I heard it in my radios speakers, but the phone
 didn't wake up. I didn't wake up with the power button as well. I restarted
 it and tried to get the logs (/var/log/..), but it seems frameworkd only
 keeps a small portion of them, as the logs from before the restart got
 overwritten. I tried to reproduce the same scenario by myself, but without
 success.

 Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting
 them?

 Michal


It happened again. The phone suspended while I was talking, and wouldn't
wake up after the call ended.

Does not waking up from suspend necessarily mean it's a kernel bug? It only
happened just after a call.
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-23 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 I found the same issue than Michal, not a real problem, but it's hard to
 scroll without clicking.
 Could you specify on what views (or all?) is this?
 for the people view, it's ok, scrolling nicely without clicking, but in
 the settings menu, I put my finger on item A, then scroll up/down, when I
 release it, the item A is automatically clicked.
 
 Yes, it's very hard to navigate in the settings area. Maybe the list of items 
 is
 not being created the same way?

I'd suggest also to use the lateral scrolling (left/right) to
(respectively) decrease and increase the values for options such the
Suspend time and other cycling settings; actually changing them is
really annoying!

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-23 Thread pike
Hi

 I'd suggest also to use the lateral scrolling (left/right) to
 (respectively) decrease and increase the values for options such the
 Suspend time and other cycling settings; 

That's an idea.

I toyed with the idea of having such lists
of settings (numerical/boolean) with buttons
on each side:

(-)  hour:07 (+)

   (off)  alarm  (on)

sort of an 'old school' lateral slider :-)

$2c,
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-23 Thread pike
Hi

Not sure when this started, but it might
be since flashing to om2009 release5:

I can't ssh into my Neo any more.
Not over wifi, and not over usb.

 ~pike$ ping 192.168.0.200
 [..]
 --- 192.168.0.200 ping statistics ---
 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss

 ~pike$ ssh r...@192.168.0.200
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused

  ~pike$ ping 192.168.1.31
  [..]
  --- 192.168.1.31 ping statistics ---
  2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
 
  ~pike$ ssh r...@192.168.1.31
  ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.31 port 22: Connection refused

the connections are good.
dropbear is running.

a few other apparent bugs are disabling me to
test it very thorough, but .. am I overseeing
something ?


curious,
*-pike

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-23 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/23 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl

 Hi

 Not sure when this started, but it might
 be since flashing to om2009 release5:

 I can't ssh into my Neo any more.
 Not over wifi, and not over usb.

  ~pike$ ping 192.168.0.200
  [..]
  --- 192.168.0.200 ping statistics ---
  2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
 
  ~pike$ ssh r...@192.168.0.200
  ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused

 Try at 192.168.0.202 :-)
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-23 Thread pike
Hi

 ~pike$ ping 192.168.0.200
 Try at 192.168.0.202 :-)

eeeuuh... :-)

 ~ pike$ ssh r...@192.168.0.202
 r...@192.168.0.202's password: 
 r...@om-gta02:~# 


thanks!
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-22 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Friday, 19 de June de 2009 10:26:28 Risto H. Kurppa va escriure:
 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jose Luis Perez

 Diezperezd...@gmail.com wrote:
  El Thursday, 18 de June de 2009 22:52:30 Steven Le Roux va escriure:
  Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging ,
  the phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and
  have to put the battery off.
 
  It happens after a suspend.
  with any contact.
 
  It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry
 
  keeping the search...
 
  I did this same test this morning with the same results but I keept it
  vibrating until I arrived at work to copy /var/log/* and the output of
  logread to a pc.
 
  I stoped the buzz calling reboot from ssh ;(
 
  I will try to reproduce it with a plain testing release 5.

 Please post the logs to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ with the bug
 rep!!

I think from reading the logs that this isue is the same than the one on 
http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ticket/192

In my case the culprit was speech-dispatcher (from navit).




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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-19 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Thursday, 18 de June de 2009 22:52:30 Steven Le Roux va escriure:
 Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging , the
 phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have to
 put the battery off.

 It happens after a suspend.
 with any contact.

 It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry

 keeping the search...

I did this same test this morning with the same results but I keept it 
vibrating until I arrived at work to copy /var/log/* and the output of 
logread to a pc.

I stoped the buzz calling reboot from ssh ;(

I will try to reproduce it with a plain testing release 5.



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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-19 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jose Luis Perez
Diezperezd...@gmail.com wrote:
 El Thursday, 18 de June de 2009 22:52:30 Steven Le Roux va escriure:
 Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging , the
 phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have to
 put the battery off.

 It happens after a suspend.
 with any contact.

 It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry

 keeping the search...

 I did this same test this morning with the same results but I keept it
 vibrating until I arrived at work to copy /var/log/* and the output of
 logread to a pc.

 I stoped the buzz calling reboot from ssh ;(

 I will try to reproduce it with a plain testing release 5.

Please post the logs to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ with the bug rep!!


r


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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-19 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Jose Luis Perez Diez
perezd...@gmail.comwrote:

 El Thursday, 18 de June de 2009 22:52:30 Steven Le Roux va escriure:
  Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging ,
 the
  phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have
 to
  put the battery off.
 
  It happens after a suspend.
  with any contact.
 
  It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry
 
  keeping the search...

 I did this same test this morning with the same results but I keept it
 vibrating until I arrived at work to copy /var/log/* and the output of
 logread to a pc.

 I stoped the buzz calling reboot from ssh ;(


If you have ssh access you can stop it with :

echo none  /sys/class/leds/neo1973:vibrator/trigger



 I will try to reproduce it with a plain testing release 5.



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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-19 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/19 Jose Luis Perez Diez perezd...@gmail.com

 El Thursday, 18 de June de 2009 22:52:30 Steven Le Roux va escriure:
  Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging ,
 the
  phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have
 to
  put the battery off.
 
  It happens after a suspend.
  with any contact.
 
  It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry
 
  keeping the search...

 I did this same test this morning with the same results but I keept it
 vibrating until I arrived at work to copy /var/log/* and the output of
 logread to a pc.

 I stoped the buzz calling reboot from ssh ;(

 I will try to reproduce it with a plain testing release 5.


 I had the phone go into unresumable suspend. I received a call while it was
suspended, it woke up and I answered the call. I don't remember if I put it
down or the other side. Then the phone went to suspend again, and there was
another call coming, I heard it in my radios speakers, but the phone didn't
wake up. I didn't wake up with the power button as well. I restarted it and
tried to get the logs (/var/log/..), but it seems frameworkd only keeps a
small portion of them, as the logs from before the restart got overwritten.
I tried to reproduce the same scenario by myself, but without success.

Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting
them?

Michal
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-19 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/6/20 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm:
 Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting
 them?


easy - create a script which runs at shutdown, to copy the log file(s)
in question to an archive location. maybe in one of the
change-runlevel folders?

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-19 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/19 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com

 2009/6/20 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm:
  Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not
 deleting
  them?
 

 easy - create a script which runs at shutdown, to copy the log file(s)
 in question to an archive location. maybe in one of the
 change-runlevel folders?


That doesn't help in a situation where you turn off the phone by taking out
the battery.
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-19 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote:
 2009/6/19 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com

 2009/6/20 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm:
  Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not
  deleting
  them?
 

 easy - create a script which runs at shutdown, to copy the log file(s)
 in question to an archive location. maybe in one of the
 change-runlevel folders?

 That doesn't help in a situation where you turn off the phone by taking out
 the battery.

Unless you launch the script at *startup* :)

 Nicola

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-19 Thread Marcel
Am Freitag, 19. Juni 2009 16:21:26 schrieb Nicola Mfb:
 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm 
wrote:
  2009/6/19 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com
 
  2009/6/20 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm:
   Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not
   deleting
   them?
 
  easy - create a script which runs at shutdown, to copy the log
  file(s) in question to an archive location. maybe in one of the
  change-runlevel folders?
 
  That doesn't help in a situation where you turn off the phone by
  taking out the battery.

 Unless you launch the script at *startup* :)

And this startup script could replace the actual logfile with a symlink to 
a location on the sd card or similar.

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-19 Thread Angus Ainslie
On June 19, 2009 07:27:49 am Michal Brzozowski wrote:

 Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting
 them?

 Michal

Check here under log directory 

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009#Using_OM2009

Angus

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-18 Thread Steven Le Roux
Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging , the
phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have to
put the battery off.

It happens after a suspend.
with any contact.

It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry

keeping the search...


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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-18 Thread Warren Baird
I've seen one bit of weirdness since I got TR5 working this morning (with
tonnes of help from nytowl).

My FR suddenly woke up from sleep without any apparent reason - I didn't
have any new sms's or calls.  after that, it wouldn't go back to sleep, and
when I tried to go into the Paroli Settings, it seemed like Paroli hung on
me - the screen stopped updating.  I ended up having to reboot.

If it happens again, I'll see if I can get logs, etc.

Warren


On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote:

 Hi All,

 There have been some major show stoppers fixed in the last week. As
 usual there are additional instructions here.

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009

 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist
 items need someone to implement them. If you are interested in in owning
 one
 of the wishlist items come and join #paroli or send me an email

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009_get_active

 Careful attention was paid to package versioning so opkg update opkg
 upgrade
 *might* work. You must also do rm -r /home/root/.e.

 If you want to preserve your settings with flashing the full image use the
 bind-home method.

 New features

 Settings available from the main screen
 Improved call handling - should limit races in oeventsd
 Better list handling
 More consistent interface
 New paroli-serenity theme, This is for the most part a copy of Joel
 Newkirk's
 serenity theme
 Static MAC addresses for usb devices
 Ability to cut 30 seconds off boot time
- DO NOT use this if you use bind-home
- install udev-static-devices to get this speed boost
 Keyboard goes away after use
 Updated /etc/network/interfaces to give usb0 a metric

 Known issues

 If you use bind-home make sure it is on a journaling filesystem such as ext
 3

 Before install this release  backup your contacts in ~/.paroli/ as there
 have
been some reports of contacts being deleted. One bug relating to
 missing
contacts has been fixed but there's a chance that there is another
 one. Also
make sure your home directory is on a journaling filesystem

 Some oeventsd rules are ignored  ( framework oeventsd problems )
- don't suspend while plugged in
 http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/381
- work around unplug usb until LED goes out, then plug usb in ( need
 to keep
the device awake by touching the screen until the LED comes back on)

 connman doesn't give a default route to wifi if usb0 already is the default
route
-work around either ifdown usb0 from a terminal or
route del default gw 192.168.0.202

 Bugs fixed

 after editing contacts - some contacts erased
 no suspend after phone call FSO 435
 Parts of frameworkd stop working FSO 416
 improper battery level in illume
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Warren
Bairdwjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
 Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now.  I look
 forward to the improvements a lot.

Nice, nice! Did you remember to remove ~/.e -directory?

 One question - is the 'bind-home' approach documented somewhere?   Both
 google and searching on the wiki haven't helped me find info on how to set
 this up.   I've actually got om2009 on my sd-card right now, so it isn't
 something I need right away - but I think I'm getting confident enough in
 OM2009 that I'll soon ditch the QtE install I've been keeping for
 'emergencies' on the built-in flash.

documented here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Installing
If using on flash I have no idea how it works..

Enjoy your freedom and feel free to join #paroli to discuss more!


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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
 Hi all ,

 Just flash to help testing :)

 I really love paroli ! Better each release appearing :)

Awesome!

 I found the same issue than Michal, not a real problem, but it's hard to
 scroll without clicking.

Could you specify on what views (or all?) is this?

 BTW, with testing release 4 you could return into illume by changing the
 profile, but now I change profile to illume without any effect... is it
 still possible ?

 How to access to apps ?

INteresting.. It should be no problem to change to illume or
paroli-serenity theme.. I have no idea what's this about..


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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Warren
Bairdwjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
 but I'm not sure if that's related to the problem I'm seeing.   Paroli
 itself seems pretty good.  However, when I enable the paroli-illume theme,
 illume doesn't start up.   So for the moment I can't get at any of the other
 apps on the phone without sshing in.

That's weird.. I hope we'll be able to figure this out soon..

 I like the fact that you can see where the buttons are now...   However, I'm
 afraid that I don't particularly like showing the buttons with the four dots
 at the corners - I think it's kind of an odd way to display them.

The dots will be removed, they're there to help the design a bit..

 I'd still like to see a visual indication of 'slidyness' - when things can
 be slide to the side.

I agree but I don't think it'll happen..

 I'll have to do more testing before I can comment on the reliability.

Great, looking forward!



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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/17 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi

 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm
 wrote:
  I found two problems so far.
 
  1. When waking up from suspend while in horizontal mode, there is garbage
 on
  the screen and it's unusable.

 Can you take a photo to show it?


Sure,
http://pvtrace.com/P6170618.JPG

It's a photo of an incoming call waking up the phone in landscape mode.



  2. It's impossible to scroll in paroli, it's too sensitive and you always
  end up pressing a button

 What screen? Settings might still have some issues but the other
 should have it working pretty well..


All screens in settings. Other screens in Paroli seem ok (tested phone log
so far only)




  3. Paroli doesn't support horizontal mode too well.

 That's be the third problem, you only promised two :) But yes, it's
 true that when it's been designed, the horizontal mode has not been
 kept in mind (actually I think ~no one has tested it before you..). So
 possibly some work will be done there in the future..

  Other than that it's pretty stable, good job!

 I agree :)


Just a few more issues :-)

4. I don't see a way to reject an incoming call.

5. The battery meter in illume is broken, it shows 33% when the battery is
full, now it's showing 28%, while it should be showing 88%.

6. The phone sometimes goes to sleep while connected via USB, happened to me
twice so far, but can't reproduce.
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote:
 Sure,
 http://pvtrace.com/P6170618.JPG

 It's a photo of an incoming call waking up the phone in landscape mode.

looks bad! Please report to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac

  2. It's impossible to scroll in paroli, it's too sensitive and you
  always
  end up pressing a button

 What screen? Settings might still have some issues but the other
 should have it working pretty well..

 All screens in settings. Other screens in Paroli seem ok (tested phone log
 so far only)

right, could you report this too to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac

 Just a few more issues :-)

 4. I don't see a way to reject an incoming call.

could you report this too to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac

 5. The battery meter in illume is broken, it shows 33% when the battery is
 full, now it's showing 28%, while it should be showing 88%.

Did you delete /home/root/.e -dir - this should have been fixed already..

 6. The phone sometimes goes to sleep while connected via USB, happened to me
 twice so far, but can't reproduce.

Yes, it's a bug and there's a workaround:
- work around unplug usb until LED goes out, then plug usb in ( need to 
keep
the device awake by touching the screen until the LED comes back on)


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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 08:48:48AM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
 2009/6/17 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi
  On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm
  wrote:
   I found two problems so far.
  
   1. When waking up from suspend while in horizontal mode, there is garbage
  on
   the screen and it's unusable.
 
  Can you take a photo to show it?
 
 
 Sure,
 http://pvtrace.com/P6170618.JPG
 
 It's a photo of an incoming call waking up the phone in landscape mode.

Yeah, sometimes it happens to me. I don't know if I'm missing anything in
omnewrotate that should be added in order to never let that happen, or if
it is a driver bug with xrandr :( usually putting in portrait then landscape
mode again (sometimes it even requires a few retries) shows it correctly.

But all I do is xrandr calls...

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/17 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi

 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm
 wrote:
  Sure,
  http://pvtrace.com/P6170618.JPG
 
  It's a photo of an incoming call waking up the phone in landscape mode.

 looks bad! Please report to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac


Are you sure I should report it to Paroli? It's probably a driver problem.


   2. It's impossible to scroll in paroli, it's too sensitive and you
   always
   end up pressing a button
 
  What screen? Settings might still have some issues but the other
  should have it working pretty well..
 
  All screens in settings. Other screens in Paroli seem ok (tested phone
 log
  so far only)

 right, could you report this too to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac


done

 4. I don't see a way to reject an incoming call.

 could you report this too to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac


done




  5. The battery meter in illume is broken, it shows 33% when the battery
 is
  full, now it's showing 28%, while it should be showing 88%.

 Did you delete /home/root/.e -dir - this should have been fixed already..


This was a fresh install, so shouldn't have to delete anything.
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Hi!

Its nice to read all this positive comments so far!

Almost all question was answered by Risto. I just want to give a small summary.

# Landscape vs. portrai mode

It is not a high priority (for me at least) for now. Simply because until now,
I couldnt rotate the screen of my phone, and couldnt test it.
We are concentrating to bugfix only, and after the stable release is out,
we will focus cleaning up all the gui code, and fix most of the placing issue.

For example there is a slight offset between fullscreen and windowed mode,
we cant just hide the topbar, etc, etc. And when rotating, all this
placing issues
just show up all at once. So its rather a big job, as I see.

# Battery showing 33% when full.

Its a problem what shr is suffering too. The main issue, that three battery are
reported, and the batt app, averaging them.

It should be fixed already, but nytowl can give you the exact details.

# Scrolling

Most of the apps, are designed against the accidental clicks when scrolling.
Like for example the call-log app, when you click it will slide left
for you, instead
calling the contact directly.

However, the settings app differ from the other apps, and it register an
additional click each time you finish scrolling. I looked into this issue, and
its hard to solve, as I need to understand the py code, because it differs from
other list too much. Dont know if Im able to solve it by myself in a
reasonable time.

Every other apps should be fine. (call-log, people, sms, dialer)

 4. I don't see a way to reject an incoming call.
You can only mute them. Yepp, its missing. But before, if you didnt
accepted the call, fso silently failed, so it was encouraged, that
everybody should pick up the phone ;-P

I agree, it needs to be fixed. But you can use the mute for now.


# General remark

Guys, did you restart your phones at least twice after reflashing?

Laszlo

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Oh, and there is a rather nasty bug:
Sometime the phonebook gets erased, or some of the contacts.

It is supposed to be fixed in this release, can somebody alert us, if
he loose some of his contacts? And exact steps to reproduce it, would
be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Paul Fertser
Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com writes:
 # Battery showing 33% when full.

 Its a problem what shr is suffering too. The main issue, that three battery 
 are
 reported, and the batt app, averaging them.

It's a problem of both hal and the way E gadget calculates the
percentages. HAL reports three batteries, only one of which is real
power_supply device, other being APM emulated battery and the third is
external usb supply. It's believed that hal is wrong and shouldn't
report those extra batteries. OTOH if E gadget didn't average
percentages and took capacities into account those extra devices
wouldn't affect readings because both usb and apm lack maximum
capacity attribute and therefore should be ignored, IMHO.

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote:
 2009/6/17 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi

 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm
 wrote:
  Sure,
  http://pvtrace.com/P6170618.JPG
 
  It's a photo of an incoming call waking up the phone in landscape mode.

 looks bad! Please report to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac

 Are you sure I should report it to Paroli? It's probably a driver problem.

You're right! Some hours after writing this (in the bus :) I realised
that no, it has nothing to do with Paroli but Openmoko, the
distribution. So this is the correct trac:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac (but I think it's already in somewhere
there as there've been earlier some problems too with xrandr..)


  5. The battery meter in illume is broken, it shows 33% when the battery
  is
  full, now it's showing 28%, while it should be showing 88%.

 Did you delete /home/root/.e -dir - this should have been fixed already..

 This was a fresh install, so shouldn't have to delete anything.

Ok, you're right, fresh install should have this working out of the
box. I think this was fixed already a while ago but it seems to be
back again..


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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:

  Hi all ,
 
  Just flash to help testing :)
 
  I really love paroli ! Better each release appearing :)

 Awesome!

  I found the same issue than Michal, not a real problem, but it's hard to
  scroll without clicking.

 Could you specify on what views (or all?) is this?


for the people view, it's ok, scrolling nicely without clicking, but in
the settings menu, I put my finger on item A, then scroll up/down, when I
release it, the item A is automatically clicked.




  BTW, with testing release 4 you could return into illume by changing the
  profile, but now I change profile to illume without any effect... is it
  still possible ?
 
  How to access to apps ?

 INteresting.. It should be no problem to change to illume or
 paroli-serenity theme.. I have no idea what's this about..


Accually it was a first shot problem, after reboot, no pb selecting
paroli-serenity (which look great to me !) Maybe a button to put paroli in
fullscreen mode would be more useful than changing the profile ?






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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread pike
Hi

 Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now.  I look
 forward to the improvements a lot.


In case there's anybody as stupid as me out
there, don't try that from within the
Illume vala-terminal :-)

  Did you remember to remove ~/.e -directory?

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:52:20PM +0200, Steven Le Roux wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
   Hi all ,
  
   Just flash to help testing :)
  
   I really love paroli ! Better each release appearing :)
 
  Awesome!

Yes, indeed. But it is still very slow in some aspects, however I prefer they
work on functionality and stability at the moment :)

   I found the same issue than Michal, not a real problem, but it's hard to
   scroll without clicking.
 
  Could you specify on what views (or all?) is this?
 
 for the people view, it's ok, scrolling nicely without clicking, but in
 the settings menu, I put my finger on item A, then scroll up/down, when I
 release it, the item A is automatically clicked.

Yes, it's very hard to navigate in the settings area. Maybe the list of items is
not being created the same way?

   BTW, with testing release 4 you could return into illume by changing the
   profile, but now I change profile to illume without any effect... is it
   still possible ?
  
   How to access to apps ?
 
  INteresting.. It should be no problem to change to illume or
  paroli-serenity theme.. I have no idea what's this about..
 
 Accually it was a first shot problem, after reboot, no pb selecting
 paroli-serenity (which look great to me !) Maybe a button to put paroli in
 fullscreen mode would be more useful than changing the profile ?

I agree, it should be click full screen / click non-full screen. Now
that the settings have abandoned the AUX button, maybe paroli could capture it
for that?

Rui

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
I prefer the aux for other isues like keyboard in out and long press
for something else(not sure of what righ now)

2009/6/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org:
 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:52:20PM +0200, Steven Le Roux wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
   Hi all ,
  
   Just flash to help testing :)
  
   I really love paroli ! Better each release appearing :)
 
  Awesome!

 Yes, indeed. But it is still very slow in some aspects, however I prefer they
 work on functionality and stability at the moment :)

   I found the same issue than Michal, not a real problem, but it's hard to
   scroll without clicking.
 
  Could you specify on what views (or all?) is this?

 for the people view, it's ok, scrolling nicely without clicking, but in
 the settings menu, I put my finger on item A, then scroll up/down, when I
 release it, the item A is automatically clicked.

 Yes, it's very hard to navigate in the settings area. Maybe the list of items 
 is
 not being created the same way?

   BTW, with testing release 4 you could return into illume by changing the
   profile, but now I change profile to illume without any effect... is it
   still possible ?
  
   How to access to apps ?
 
  INteresting.. It should be no problem to change to illume or
  paroli-serenity theme.. I have no idea what's this about..

 Accually it was a first shot problem, after reboot, no pb selecting
 paroli-serenity (which look great to me !) Maybe a button to put paroli in
 fullscreen mode would be more useful than changing the profile ?

 I agree, it should be click full screen / click non-full screen. Now
 that the settings have abandoned the AUX button, maybe paroli could capture it
 for that?

 Rui

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
But you don't need the keyboard in the main paroli window :)

Being only two buttons, they shouldn't ever be hardwired to specific
functions, but instead have different actions according to the foreground
application.

Rui

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 03:15:41PM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
 I prefer the aux for other isues like keyboard in out and long press
 for something else(not sure of what righ now)
 
 2009/6/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org:
  On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:52:20PM +0200, Steven Le Roux wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
  Accually it was a first shot problem, after reboot, no pb selecting
  paroli-serenity (which look great to me !) Maybe a button to put paroli in
  fullscreen mode would be more useful than changing the profile ?
 
  I agree, it should be click full screen / click non-full screen. Now
  that the settings have abandoned the AUX button, maybe paroli could capture 
  it
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/17 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi

 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm
 wrote:
   5. The battery meter in illume is broken, it shows 33% when the
 battery
   is
   full, now it's showing 28%, while it should be showing 88%.
 
  Did you delete /home/root/.e -dir - this should have been fixed
 already..
 
  This was a fresh install, so shouldn't have to delete anything.

 Ok, you're right, fresh install should have this working out of the
 box. I think this was fixed already a while ago but it seems to be
 back again..


Ok, while we're at it. I just went to Paroli settings - display and set the
profile to illume-serenity. It looked very nice, black and everything, and
the battery applet was showing the state correctly (!). But the illume
keyboard was back again, and I couldn't turn it off as the illume-settings
button was now gone. So I switched back to illume profile. I then went to
illume-settings, switched the theme to Serenity. Now I have Serenity again,
the illume keyboard is turned off again (yay), the battery app shows the
state wrong (!), and Paroli settings say that the theme is still Illume.

I don't understand anything from this, why is Paroli duplicating the options
from illume-settings?

And a more general question, is Paroli trying to be more than a phone app?
Is it going to replace illume?
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread MicVM

I flashed Om2009 r5 as well an can confirm most of the described problems.

In addition I have the problem that switching of suspend from paroli (i
assume this is done by setting suspend time to -1), as well as in illume
does not have any effect. The same when i set up no dimming in the illume
power settings. I dont remember exactly if this was working in r4 but I
think it was.

Besides that you have done a great work so far! Thanks guys!
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Angus Ainslie
On June 16, 2009 04:44:22 pm Warren Baird wrote:
 Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now.  I look
 forward to the improvements a lot.

 One question - is the 'bind-home' approach documented somewhere?   Both
 google and searching on the wiki haven't helped me find info on how to set
 this up.   I've actually got om2009 on my sd-card right now, so it isn't
 something I need right away - but I think I'm getting confident enough in
 OM2009 that I'll soon ditch the QtE install I've been keeping for
 'emergencies' on the built-in flash.

 Warren


To get bind-home to work

Make sure there isn't a bind-home directory first 

ls /media/card/bind-hone

If this exists you are already using bind-home, otherwise keep following the 
directions below

mv /home/root /media/card/bind-home
mkdir /home/root

reboot

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread matthias
The same for me:
flashed the current images yesterday in the evening. kernel, rootfs and qi.
main problems:
- I could not switch off auto-suspend.
- after pressing the power-button to resume all I get is a wsod :(
So the phone was just usable one minute after a too long boot-period and
then a brick.

A question:
How reliable is wifi-networking and gprs? any experiences?

Carry on that way, it's always good to see, something is developing
around here! :)

Matthias

MicVM schrieb:
 I flashed Om2009 r5 as well an can confirm most of the described problems.

 In addition I have the problem that switching of suspend from paroli (i
 assume this is done by setting suspend time to -1), as well as in illume
 does not have any effect. The same when i set up no dimming in the illume
 power settings. I dont remember exactly if this was working in r4 but I
 think it was.

 Besides that you have done a great work so far! Thanks guys!
   

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Stian Ellingsen
on., 17.06.2009 kl. 10.09 -0700, skrev MicVM:
 In addition I have the problem that switching of suspend from paroli (i
 assume this is done by setting suspend time to -1), as well as in illume
 does not have any effect. The same when i set up no dimming in the illume
 power settings. I dont remember exactly if this was working in r4 but I
 think it was.
I've filed a ticket about the suspend-time bug at
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2296

It was working on testing release 4.

As a workaround I've commented out the following
in /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml:
# -
# trigger: IdleState()
# filters: HasAttr(status, suspend)
# actions: Suspend()


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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM, matthiasmatthiasfels...@web.de wrote:
 The same for me:
 flashed the current images yesterday in the evening. kernel, rootfs and qi.
 main problems:
 - I could not switch off auto-suspend.
 - after pressing the power-button to resume all I get is a wsod :(
 So the phone was just usable one minute after a too long boot-period and
 then a brick.

Sounds bad :(
Did you RESTART the phone after flashing and first boot?

 A question:
 How reliable is wifi-networking and gprs? any experiences?

Both seem to work nice.

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/6/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org

 But you don't need the keyboard in the main paroli window :)

 Being only two buttons, they shouldn't ever be hardwired to specific
 functions, but instead have different actions according to the foreground
 application.

 Rui

+1 I like the idea of context use of AUX, now just need to define thats
contexts :)



 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 03:15:41PM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
 wrote:
  I prefer the aux for other isues like keyboard in out and long press
  for something else(not sure of what righ now)
 
  2009/6/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org:
   On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:52:20PM +0200, Steven Le Roux wrote:
   On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi
 wrote:
   Accually it was a first shot problem, after reboot, no pb selecting
   paroli-serenity (which look great to me !) Maybe a button to put
 paroli in
   fullscreen mode would be more useful than changing the profile ?
  
   I agree, it should be click full screen / click non-full screen.
 Now
   that the settings have abandoned the AUX button, maybe paroli could
 capture it
   for that?

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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/16 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org

 Hi All,

 There have been some major show stoppers fixed in the last week. As
 usual there are additional instructions here.

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009


I found two problems so far.

1. When waking up from suspend while in horizontal mode, there is garbage on
the screen and it's unusable.
2. It's impossible to scroll in paroli, it's too sensitive and you always
end up pressing a button
3. Paroli doesn't support horizontal mode too well.

Other than that it's pretty stable, good job!

Michal
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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Warren Baird
Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now.  I look
forward to the improvements a lot.

One question - is the 'bind-home' approach documented somewhere?   Both
google and searching on the wiki haven't helped me find info on how to set
this up.   I've actually got om2009 on my sd-card right now, so it isn't
something I need right away - but I think I'm getting confident enough in
OM2009 that I'll soon ditch the QtE install I've been keeping for
'emergencies' on the built-in flash.

Warren

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote:

 Hi All,

 There have been some major show stoppers fixed in the last week. As
 usual there are additional instructions here.

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009

 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist
 items need someone to implement them. If you are interested in in owning
 one
 of the wishlist items come and join #paroli or send me an email

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009_get_active

 Careful attention was paid to package versioning so opkg update opkg
 upgrade
 *might* work. You must also do rm -r /home/root/.e.

 If you want to preserve your settings with flashing the full image use the
 bind-home method.

 New features

 Settings available from the main screen
 Improved call handling - should limit races in oeventsd
 Better list handling
 More consistent interface
 New paroli-serenity theme, This is for the most part a copy of Joel
 Newkirk's
 serenity theme
 Static MAC addresses for usb devices
 Ability to cut 30 seconds off boot time
- DO NOT use this if you use bind-home
- install udev-static-devices to get this speed boost
 Keyboard goes away after use
 Updated /etc/network/interfaces to give usb0 a metric

 Known issues

 If you use bind-home make sure it is on a journaling filesystem such as ext
 3

 Before install this release  backup your contacts in ~/.paroli/ as there
 have
been some reports of contacts being deleted. One bug relating to
 missing
contacts has been fixed but there's a chance that there is another
 one. Also
make sure your home directory is on a journaling filesystem

 Some oeventsd rules are ignored  ( framework oeventsd problems )
- don't suspend while plugged in
 http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/381
- work around unplug usb until LED goes out, then plug usb in ( need
 to keep
the device awake by touching the screen until the LED comes back on)

 connman doesn't give a default route to wifi if usb0 already is the default
route
-work around either ifdown usb0 from a terminal or
route del default gw 192.168.0.202

 Bugs fixed

 after editing contacts - some contacts erased
 no suspend after phone call FSO 435
 Parts of frameworkd stop working FSO 416
 improper battery level in illume
 Keyboard collapses after use

 Angus




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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm
 wrote:


  I found two problems so far.
 
  1. When waking up from suspend while in horizontal mode, there is garbage
 on
  the screen and it's unusable.

 Can you take a photo to show it?

  2. It's impossible to scroll in paroli, it's too sensitive and you always
  end up pressing a button

 What screen? Settings might still have some issues but the other
 should have it working pretty well..

  3. Paroli doesn't support horizontal mode too well.

 That's be the third problem, you only promised two :) But yes, it's
 true that when it's been designed, the horizontal mode has not been
 kept in mind (actually I think ~no one has tested it before you..). So
 possibly some work will be done there in the future..

  Other than that it's pretty stable, good job!

 I agree :)


Hi all ,

Just flash to help testing :)

I really love paroli ! Better each release appearing :)

I found the same issue than Michal, not a real problem, but it's hard to
scroll without clicking.

not a big deal anyway...

BTW, with testing release 4 you could return into illume by changing the
profile, but now I change profile to illume without any effect... is it
still possible ?

How to access to apps ?

congrats for the great work :)


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Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-16 Thread Warren Baird
Hmm.Well, my opkg update ; opkg upgrade was partially successful.   It
ended with this message:

Configuring hal
Cannot create link over existing -/var/log-.
Cannot create link over existing -/etc/resolv.conf-.
Reloading system message bus config: Using **pending_return in
dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated
and strongly discouraged
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without
pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed: Element syslog not allowed inside
busconfig in configuration file

but I'm not sure if that's related to the problem I'm seeing.   Paroli
itself seems pretty good.  However, when I enable the paroli-illume theme,
illume doesn't start up.   So for the moment I can't get at any of the other
apps on the phone without sshing in.


A few comments:

I like the fact that you can see where the buttons are now...   However, I'm
afraid that I don't particularly like showing the buttons with the four dots
at the corners - I think it's kind of an odd way to display them.

I'd still like to see a visual indication of 'slidyness' - when things can
be slide to the side.

As I think someone else mentioned, the scolling on the settings dialog is
broken - it always selects the thing you click on, even if you scroll the
list.

I'll have to do more testing before I can comment on the reliability.

Warren



On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Warren Baird
wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote:

 Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now.  I look
 forward to the improvements a lot.

 One question - is the 'bind-home' approach documented somewhere?   Both
 google and searching on the wiki haven't helped me find info on how to set
 this up.   I've actually got om2009 on my sd-card right now, so it isn't
 something I need right away - but I think I'm getting confident enough in
 OM2009 that I'll soon ditch the QtE install I've been keeping for
 'emergencies' on the built-in flash.

 Warren


 On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.orgwrote:

 Hi All,

 There have been some major show stoppers fixed in the last week. As
 usual there are additional instructions here.

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009

 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist
 items need someone to implement them. If you are interested in in owning
 one
 of the wishlist items come and join #paroli or send me an email

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009_get_active

 Careful attention was paid to package versioning so opkg update opkg
 upgrade
 *might* work. You must also do rm -r /home/root/.e.

 If you want to preserve your settings with flashing the full image use the
 bind-home method.

 New features

 Settings available from the main screen
 Improved call handling - should limit races in oeventsd
 Better list handling
 More consistent interface
 New paroli-serenity theme, This is for the most part a copy of Joel
 Newkirk's
 serenity theme
 Static MAC addresses for usb devices
 Ability to cut 30 seconds off boot time
- DO NOT use this if you use bind-home
- install udev-static-devices to get this speed boost
 Keyboard goes away after use
 Updated /etc/network/interfaces to give usb0 a metric

 Known issues

 If you use bind-home make sure it is on a journaling filesystem such as
 ext 3

 Before install this release  backup your contacts in ~/.paroli/ as there
 have
been some reports of contacts being deleted. One bug relating to
 missing
contacts has been fixed but there's a chance that there is another
 one. Also
make sure your home directory is on a journaling filesystem

 Some oeventsd rules are ignored  ( framework oeventsd problems )
- don't suspend while plugged in
 http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/381
- work around unplug usb until LED goes out, then plug usb in (
 need to keep
the device awake by touching the screen until the LED comes back
 on)

 connman doesn't give a default route to wifi if usb0 already is the
 default
route
-work around either ifdown usb0 from a terminal or
route del default gw 192.168.0.202

 Bugs fixed

 after editing contacts - some contacts erased
 no suspend after phone call FSO 435
 Parts of frameworkd stop working FSO 416
 improper battery level in illume
 Keyboard collapses after use

 Angus




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