Re: OpenMoko future.

2007-07-30 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 07/29/2007 Jim McDonald wrote: [...] We want to build _the_ best open mobile device in the world. 100% open. Only when we reach this point will our strengths be appreciated by the mainstream user. I understand the thinking here, but the mainstream user will neither

Re: OpenMoko future.

2007-07-30 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 07/30/2007 Mark Arvidson wrote: [snip] Freeing the phone to be a platform, not just a crude, limited tool is where this project needs to go. It may seem like a slow couple of years before this really infects our entire culture, but I think it's inevitable now. Exactly! -Sean

Re: OpenMoko future.

2007-07-29 Thread Lars Hallberg
Sébastien Lorquet skrev: (This is a suite to laforge's message on gsmd-devel) hello, I'm a little disappointed about laforge's message :( Made me happy... I'm been a little worried by the expectation to sell 100 of thousand or even millions of units from the start. If they happy with geek

Re: OpenMoko future.

2007-07-29 Thread Jay Vaughan
On Jul 30, 2007, at 4:28 AM, Mark Arvidson wrote: Freeing the phone to be a platform, not just a crude, limited tool is where this project needs to go. It may seem like a slow couple of years before this really infects our entire culture, but I think it's inevitable now. For example,

Re: OpenMoko future.

2007-07-28 Thread Visti Andresen
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:19:18 +0200 Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (This is a suite to laforge's message on gsmd-devel) hello, I'm a little disappointed about laforge's message :( Targetting geeks only will never help to make OpenMoko known. Even if our resources are limited,

Re: OpenMoko future.

2007-07-28 Thread Rod Whitby
Visti Andresen wrote: Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (This is a suite to laforge's message on gsmd-devel) I'm a little disappointed about laforge's message :( Targetting geeks only will never help to make OpenMoko known. They are planning to sell it to your mom and dad:

Re: OpenMoko future.

2007-07-28 Thread Jim McDonald
Rod Whitby wrote: Visti Andresen wrote: Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (This is a suite to laforge's message on gsmd-devel) I'm a little disappointed about laforge's message :( Targetting geeks only will never help to make OpenMoko known. They are planning to

Re: OpenMoko future.

2007-07-28 Thread Giles Jones
On 28 Jul 2007, at 14:49, Jay Vaughan wrote: Fact is: its easier and easier for bright teams to engineer their own hardware, and openmoko is a case in point. lets not forget the open part of this equation, and instead why don't we just leave the future direction of things, indeed,

Re: OpenMoko future.

2007-07-28 Thread Jim McDonald
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: I don't see our statements as conflicting. Harald is our lead system level architect. His job is to focus on his task at hand and deliver a stable, high performance system. He's trying to give the geeks what they want first. Which is great, the concern was around