Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread cedric cellier
They are not phones, but the Nokia internet tablets are not that far for freedom and deserve to be mentionned IMHO. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Paul Wouters
At LinuxTag 2008 I learned that Motorola is giving you the kernel sources but are using signed kernels and the bootloader to prevent you from putting your own kernel on the device. I expect that phones provided by LIMO and OHA will have the same 'feature'. Unfortunately its the linux

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Russell Sears
Paul Wouters wrote: Now imagine the OS being linux with no restrictions, fully GPLv3 compatible. Now imagine one propretary binary running on that GPLv3 platform, which sends a signature based on the OS/kernel contents to the baseband via serial. If it is not a known good signature, the

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Tilman Baumann
Russell Sears wrote: Paul Wouters wrote: This is exactly what Motorola does. It is the 60 seconds of working phone with openezx. GPLv3 doesn't say anything about how the protection is implemented, though it does say continued functioning, so I think they've covered this loophole. :)

Re: OpenMoko is the only 100% F/OSS-based Linux smartphone project

2008-07-08 Thread Jay Vaughan
I'm glad I purchased an openmoko though. I'm tired of fighting against mobile phone vendors. yeah, its a lot easier to fight against all the open source guys shivvying into position to make *the* bomb distro for the freerunner, thus destroying all hope of 3rd-party developer markets being