Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-11 Thread Hrabosh

The keyboard seems nice and usefull. Are you planning to add Fx (F1-F12)
keys too? I was always missing them when I was using mc on FR.


Z.



robin píše v St 09. 05. 2012 v 21:29 +:
 great work! I am looking forward to updating qtmoko!!
 
 I don't know too much about virtual keyboards but I was wondering if the meego
 keyboard might offer some code to be reused:
 
 https://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page
  
 
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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-11 Thread Patryk Benderz
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 https://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page
Radek, I really appreciate your great work but Mallit keyboard on
screenshot above looks much better. I know FR's screen is very small, so
it might appear not very useful, but maybe it could be implemented?
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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-11 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, May 11, 2012 a las 01:06:02PM +0200, Patryk Benderz escribió:

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  https://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page
 Radek, I really appreciate your great work but Mallit keyboard on
 screenshot above looks much better. I know FR's screen is very small, so
 it might appear not very useful, but maybe it could be implemented?

Hi Patryk,

Sorry, but I completely disagree. Have you watched the movie in YouTube?
It took me also twice to realize the great advantage: Radek's kbd is
transparent and shows only the letter to touch, around the letter it is
transparent and you can overlay with the kbd any application which
receives the chars. This is exactly what we need on the small FR screen.

Hope that someone will port it to SHR

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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-11 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday, May 11, 2012 01:06:02 PM Patryk Benderz wrote:

 [cut]
 
  https://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page
 
 Radek, I really appreciate your great work but Mallit keyboard on
 screenshot above looks much better. I know FR's screen is very small, so
 it might appear not very useful, but maybe it could be implemented?

I can implement custom layouts to it, but i'd rather start with something 
simple and then add features - even keyboard without custom layouts is a lot 
of work... I will either do qtmoko v45 without layouts and then v46 with 
layouts or v45 with layouts - if it does not take too much time.

As for the mallit keyboard and all other keyboards - i dont think anything but 
fullscreen keyboard can comfortably work on FR/GTA04. The display is small and 
the bevel around it makes it even smaller - you cant use fingers to touch near 
edges. These keyboards are designed for smarthones with 4 inch display and no 
bevel.

Btw i am very happy with the current fullscreen keyboard - i think it beats 
all onscreen keyboards i have ever used.

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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-11 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday, May 11, 2012 01:46:58 PM Hrabosh wrote:

 The keyboard seems nice and usefull. Are you planning to add Fx (F1-F12)
 keys too? I was always missing them when I was using mc on FR.

You can do ESC+1 to emulate F1 etc... But with custom layouts it should not be 
problem to have even F1..F12 keys - i'll write it down to my todo list.

Regards

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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-11 Thread Patryk Benderz
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 receives the chars. This is exactly what we need on the small FR screen.
Thats the reason why I wrote:
...I know FR's screen is very small, so it might appear not very
useful...
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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-09 Thread Nashvin Gangaram
Its looking awesome Radek!  Just make sure that any key supported by the
old input methods is still supported...



On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:

 Hi,
 while there was discussion about hw keyboard, i was working on software
 onscreen keyboard with simple goal: implement the best onscreen keyboard in
 the world.

 I think i am now very close ;-) The key is to have as big buttons as
 possible.
 Here is picture and video of how it looks now:

 http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/keyboard.png
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyN7wS66y_I

 It still needs some more work, but it's currently very usable and i am
 really
 happy how it works. E.g. the video was taken with N900 in my left hand and
 still with the SMS layout i made no mistake.

 My plan for now is to finish it up and remove all those 5!! QtMoko input
 methods in favour of this one. I can make installable packages of the old
 methods if anyone is interested. This should be part of v45. For v46 i can
 try
 to implement customizable layouts and unicode characters.

 Regards

 Radek

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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-09 Thread Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani
Hello Radeck,

On 05/08/2012 10:26 PM, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote:
 Hi,
 while there was discussion about hw keyboard, i was working on software 
 onscreen keyboard with simple goal: implement the best onscreen keyboard in 
 the world.

 I think i am now very close ;-) The key is to have as big buttons as 
 possible. 
 Here is picture and video of how it looks now:

 http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/keyboard.png
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyN7wS66y_I

 It still needs some more work, but it's currently very usable and i am really 
 happy how it works. E.g. the video was taken with N900 in my left hand and 
 still with the SMS layout i made no mistake.

 My plan for now is to finish it up and remove all those 5!! QtMoko input 
 methods in favour of this one. I can make installable packages of the old 
 methods if anyone is interested. This should be part of v45. For v46 i can 
 try 
 to implement customizable layouts and unicode characters.

 Regards

 Radek
Your keyboard looks very promising, thanks a lot!
Anyway, I like the predictive keyboard very much and I'd like a package
of it, just in case your one doesn't fit my needs.

Best regards,
   Giacomo

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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-09 Thread Matthias Apitz
On 05/08/2012 10:26 PM, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote:

 Hi,
 while there was discussion about hw keyboard, i was working on software 
 onscreen keyboard with simple goal: implement the best onscreen keyboard in 
 the world.

 I think i am now very close ;-) The key is to have as big buttons as 
 possible. 
 Here is picture and video of how it looks now:

 http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/keyboard.png
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyN7wS66y_I

 It still needs some more work, but it's currently very usable and i am really 
 happy how it works. E.g. the video was taken with N900 in my left hand and 
 still with the SMS layout i made no mistake.

 My plan for now is to finish it up and remove all those 5!! QtMoko input 
 methods in favour of this one. I can make installable packages of the old 
 methods if anyone is interested. This should be part of v45. For v46 i can 
 try 
 to implement customizable layouts and unicode characters.

 Regards

 Radek

Hi Radek,

Thanks for this amazing step forward!

Is this work somehow available as well for the SHR distribution?

For the former Om2008.9 and now in SHR I'm using an enhanced version
which includes all Spanish tilded chars and signs like áíóéñ¡¿...
I'm attaching the keyboard file. Is yours somehow expandable as well or
could you produce a Spanish version of yours too?

Thanks in advance

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##KBDCONF-1.0
kbd 450 190

# keyboard type
type TERMINAL
# an icon for the keyboard so you know which one you have
icon qwerty.png

# added by g...@unixarea.de for Spanish tilde chars
# $Id: Spanish.kbd,v 1.10 2009/03/02 15:55:17 guru Exp $
#

key  450  30  30
  normal   ¿  ¿
key  750  30  30
  normal   á  á
  capslockÁ  Á
key 1050  30  30
  normal   é  é
  capslockÉ  É
key 1350  30  30
  normal   í  í
  capslockÍ  Í
key 1650  30  30
  normal   ñ  ñ
  capslockÑ  Ñ
key 1950  30  30
  normal   ó  ó
  capslockÓ  Ó
key 2250  30  30
  normal   ú  ú
  capslockÚ  Ú
key 2550  30  30
  normal   ü  ü
  capslockÜ  Ü
key 2850  30  30
  normal   ¡  ¡

key   0   30  30  30
  normal   ` grave
  shift~ asciitilde
  capslock ` grave
key  30   30  30  30
  normal   1 1
  shift! exclam
  capslock 1 1
key  60   30  30  30
  normal   2 2
  shift@ at
  capslock 2 2
key  90   30  30  30
  normal   3 3
  shift# numbersign
  capslock 3 3
key 120   30  30  30
  normal   4 4
  shift$ dollar
  capslock 4 4
key 150   30  30  30
  normal   5 5
  shift% percent
  capslock 5 5
key 180   30  30  30
  normal   6 6
  shift^ asciicircum
  capslock 6 6
key 210   30  30  30
  normal   7 7
  shift ampersand
  capslock 7 7
key 240   30  30  30
  normal   8 8
  shift* asterisk
  capslock 8 8
key 270   30  30  30
  normal   9 9
  shift( parenleft
  capslock 9 9
key 300   30  30  30
  normal   0 0
  shift) parenright
  capslock 0 0
key 330   30  30  30
  normal   - minus
  shift_ underscore
  capslock - minus
key 360   30  30  30
  normal   = equal
  shift+ plus
  capslock = equal
key 390   30  60  30
  normal   backspace.png BackSpace

key   0  60  45  30
  normal   tab.png Tab
  shifttab.png ISO_Left_Tab
key  45  60  30  30
  normal   q q
  shiftQ Q
  capslock Q Q
key  75  60  30  30
  normal   w w
  shiftW W
  capslock W W
key 105  60  30  30
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  shiftE E
  capslock E E
key 135  60  30  30
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  shiftR R
  capslock R R
key 165  60  30  30
  normal   t t
  shiftT T
  capslock T T
key 195  60  30  30
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  shiftY Y
  capslock Y Y
key 225  60  30  30
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  shiftU U
  capslock U U
key 255  60  30  30
  normal   i i
  shiftI I
  capslock I I
key 285  60  30  30
  normal   o o
  shiftO O
  capslock O O
key 315  60  30  30
  normal   p p
  shiftP P
  capslock P P
key 345  60  30  30
  normal   [ bracketleft
  shift{ braceleft
  capslock [ bracketleft
key 375  60  30  30
  normal   ] bracketright
  shift} braceright
  capslock ] bracketright
key 405  60  45  30
  normal   \ backslash
  shift| bar
  capslock \ backslash

key   0  90  60  30
  normal   caps
  capslock CAPS
  is_capslock
key  60  90  30  30
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  shiftA A
  capslock A A
key  90  90  30  30
  normal   s s
  shiftS S
  capslock S S
key 120  90  30  30
  normal   d d
  shiftD D
  capslock D D
key 150  90  30  30
  normal   f f
  shiftF F
  capslock F F
key 180  90  30  30
  normal   g g
  shiftG G
  capslock G G
key 210  90  30  30
  normal   h h
  shiftH H
  capslock H H
key 240  90  30  30
  normal   j j
  shiftJ J
  capslock J J
key 270  90  30  30
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  shiftK K
  capslock K K
key 300  90  30  30
  normal   l l
  shiftL L
  capslock L L
key 330  90  30  30

Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-09 Thread Radek Polak
On Wednesday, May 09, 2012 01:00:00 PM Matthias Apitz wrote:

 Is this work somehow available as well for the SHR distribution?

IIRC SHR uses illume keyboard. It's entirely diffrent project. But since it 
took me just few days to do in Qt it should be quite the same amount of work 
for illume keyboard.

 For the former Om2008.9 and now in SHR I'm using an enhanced version
 which includes all Spanish tilded chars and signs like áíóéñ¡¿...
 I'm attaching the keyboard file. Is yours somehow expandable as well or
 could you produce a Spanish version of yours too?

Currently the layout is in cpp sources, but it should not be a big problem to 
load it from external file - it's just array of chars. I'll try to make it for 
v45...

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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-09 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Geat work Radek!!! Thanks a lot for that job coming!!

Rafa

--- On Tue, 5/8/12, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
 Hi,
 while there was discussion about hw keyboard, i was working on software 
 onscreen keyboard with simple goal: implement the best onscreen keyboard in 
 the world.
 
 I think i am now very close ;-) The key is to have as big
 buttons as possible. 
 Here is picture and video of how it looks now:
 
 http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/keyboard.png
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyN7wS66y_I
 
 It still needs some more work, but it's currently very
 usable and i am really 
 happy how it works. E.g. the video was taken with N900 in my
 left hand and 
 still with the SMS layout i made no mistake.
 
 My plan for now is to finish it up and remove all those 5!!
 QtMoko input 
 methods in favour of this one. I can make installable
 packages of the old 
 methods if anyone is interested. This should be part of v45.
 For v46 i can try 
 to implement customizable layouts and unicode characters.
 
 Regards
 
 Radek
 
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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-09 Thread robin
great work! I am looking forward to updating qtmoko!!

I don't know too much about virtual keyboards but I was wondering if the meego
keyboard might offer some code to be reused:

https://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page
 

br

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Re: QtMoko's new keyboard

2012-05-08 Thread correu griera
Great!!! Thanks. GRiera.

2012/5/8 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz:
 Hi,
 while there was discussion about hw keyboard, i was working on software
 onscreen keyboard with simple goal: implement the best onscreen keyboard in
 the world.

 I think i am now very close ;-) The key is to have as big buttons as possible.
 Here is picture and video of how it looks now:

 http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/keyboard.png
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyN7wS66y_I

 It still needs some more work, but it's currently very usable and i am really
 happy how it works. E.g. the video was taken with N900 in my left hand and
 still with the SMS layout i made no mistake.

 My plan for now is to finish it up and remove all those 5!! QtMoko input
 methods in favour of this one. I can make installable packages of the old
 methods if anyone is interested. This should be part of v45. For v46 i can try
 to implement customizable layouts and unicode characters.

 Regards

 Radek

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