Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On 29.12.2009 23:30, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? no Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes (fbreader and listening music) What distribution you run most of the time? shr If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? At the summer, after 1024 and buzz fixes i tried to use it for a two weeks as daily phone, but i lost several important calls and need to reboot twice a day. Will try it with new kernel. -- Regards, Sergey Alembekov ALTLinux Team xmpp: r...@jabber.ru ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:17:17 -0800 (PST) Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: No Yes Debian Yes No Debian The recent innovation of compiling the kernel with the go-slow straps removed has had a significant improvement on my experience. Now if only I could figure out why the gprs is not reliable I'd be on my way to being happy. I guess we cannot hope for the GSM firmware being made open-source... (any New Zealand residents out there? I visited NZ in Jan, bought a 2degrees SIM can and found that I couldn't send SMS messages though receiving and calls were fine. SIM worked fine in another phone. Does anyone else experience that?) NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your FreeRunner?
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? I use only QtMoko. -- Sometimes I forget how to do small talk: http://xkcd.com/222/ “If you have to ask why, you’re not a member of the intended audience.” — Bob Zimbinski, http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Em 03-01-2010 06:10, Ken Young escreveu: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? There's no decent PDA software for the FR, and I have no other, so No. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-u Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Koolu's Qi fork (was: Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: I only know about Android needing forked Qi. Which other distro also requires you to have custom bootloader? I guess Android only needs a forked Qi because it needed different boot parameters, and Qi can't read them from file when booting from NAND. I find uboot very easy for multibooting. First of all, i do not exactly understand why koolu decided that they really need another MTD partitioning scheme. There was never any discussion about that. Second, they should have warned their users in a big bold letters. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes What distribution you run most of the time? shr-u ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:30:53 +0200 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? I still use my palm pilot as my PDA through I am writing an application for SHR to replace the palm pilot. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes, though my use of a PDA is a bit scarce. Mostly GPS-based functions (OSM tracks and the such). What distribution you run most of the time? A (somewhat outdated) shr-u. Happy new year to all of you. -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes, since july 2008 (rev5, buzzfixed one year later) Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR for a long time, Android currently (very comfy + great browser/wifi) If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) You're welcome. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
jeremy jozwik wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? yes yes shr-u ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
no no shr-u On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: jeremy jozwik wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? yes yes shr-u ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
* Ken Young wrote, Il 03/01/2010 07:10: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes, but always with some problems. The *biggest* problem is battery life of my FR, because some times i cannot finish a day with a full charge, doing only some short calls. It's a big issue from day 0, IMHO, never really solved. I'm very happy of the screen and solid design of the FR, but his graphic speed and responsiveness (with QtMoko, at least) some times it's not good. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes, but without the copy/paste fuction and a still not so good touch keyboard, also here i've some problem. But using it as a pure GPS device, it's really good. What distribution you run most of the time? QtMoko (latest version compilad and maintained by the great Radek Polak), that is Qt based over a Debian (as i understand). -- Andrea ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Ken Young r...@cfa.harvard.edu writes: there is really no hope at that a group of people such as the gta02-core team, working part time with no large corporate sponsor, will ever produce a product with hardware on a par with what the big players are contemporaneously offering. Do you still don't know to never underestimate enthusiasts?. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes What distribution you run most of the time? QtMoko If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Sometime ago I has two phones, a Nokia 5130 and a Nokia 5310, but I think in the complete change to the clear side of the force, and sold together and bought another Neo Freerunner for diary use and one for experiments!!! Actually have one for diary use and for experiments... Thank you :) -- http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com Linux user number 478378 Linux machine number 386687 Tec. Esteban Monge Marín Tel: (506) 8379-3562 “No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las economías foráneas y nosotros nos quedemos con solo negocios de pobre, mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de empleados del exterior” José Figueres Ferrer, 1952. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Whither open hardware ? (was Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
Ken Young wrote: My two cents: If I were dictator of the gta02-core team (instead of someone who doesn't even contribute), I would repurpose the device as a GPS PDA. I would remove all the radio components except for the WiFi, and try to optimize for the longest battery life possible. Companies who were looking for a device for some project often asked Openmoko Inc. if they could have a GTA02 with some features removed or with other - often small - changes. Unfortunately, Openmoko Inc. did not have the resources for making such derivatives. However, this is a promise the approach chosen for gta02-core holds: with the whole design out in the open (Open Design Hardware [1]), anyone can independently define, implement, and produce derivatives. [1] http://people.openmoko.org/werner/openness/odhwdr-v1.pdf This doesn't mean that everyone is forced to fight all alone. To the contrary, there are many possible synergies along the way that are not visible as such in the traditional product development process, such as shared sourcing or shared manufacturing. For example, if you want to make your GPS PDA, you may choose a set of changes that fits your budget, e.g., by staying with the overall platform and physical shape but removing subsystems you don't need. When it then comes to sourcing components and manufacturing, the same facilities used for making the phone could offer their services also to your project. The incremental cost for them would be very small, much smaller than running a completely different product of similar complexity. Also the core company (or whatever form of organization) in charge of the base design would benefit. If it has spare engineering resources to put into derivative projects, it can choose to do so, favouring projects that best suit its agenda. If not, others can help out. Thus, the business opportunity is not wasted - it only goes to someone else you could think of as an ally. Even better, resources that can be shared contribute back to the whole ensemble of projects. E.g., if your PDA is wildly successful, sourcing may be able to get much getter conditions for parts than they did with just the phone. Or a new type of subsystem gets researched and is then available as a possible building block for the entire architectural family. Thus also the phone benefits. Now some may say that this is crazy and that anyone handing out designs so liberally would be robbed by competitors. In my experience, it's surprisingly hard to get people to steal your cool new ideas. Eventually, the thieves and parasites will show up, but you have to be successful for an awfully long time before they even notice you. [...] but rather to point out that there is really no hope at that a group of people such as the gta02-core team, working part time with no large corporate sponsor, will ever produce a product with hardware on a par with what the big players are contemporaneously offering. I agree on the point that there's no hope to mass-produce a phone without suitable resources. The resources don't have to be in one hand (e.g., you could have a consortium of entities each contributing their own capabilities and splitting the proceeds), but they have to be available. However, I don't think it's necessary to compete on leading edge technology. Often enough, less advanced components will yield an equally satisfying product. Besides, companies that don't have the sexiest product in their sector of the market are often much friendlier towards openness than those who do. Please don't take the poor performance of GTA01 or GTA02 as too much of an indicator of what second best can do. Both are based on very conservative designs (e.g., no DDR) and GTA02 has two thirds of its high-throughput peripherals share an incredibly slow bus. (Think of a first-generation PCI-based PC where someone chooses to use ISA cards for video and the SCSI controller. Would such a system properly represent the typical performance of the PCI architecture ?) The 2442 is now about five years old, and it shows all over the place. In an updated but similar design, unlike gta02-core suitable for mass-production, I would use something like the 2450, which has high-speed USB, 2D acceleration, and other goodies. In contrast, I think there still might be an unexploited niche in the GPS-PDA arena. I think there is a whole universe full of unexplored niches. It's hidden from us by a tall wall called high cost of entry. If we can find ways to lower that wall, a lot of interesting things should happen. - Werner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whither open hardware ? (was Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org wrote: The 2442 is now about five years old, and it shows all over the place. In an updated but similar design, unlike gta02-core suitable for mass-production, I would use something like the 2450, which has high-speed USB, 2D acceleration, and other goodies. There is also the openpandora project: http://www.open-pandora.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=categorylayout=blogid=2Itemid=2lang=en Is it unsuitable for a phone because of power inefficiency? Can be the ARM Cortex-A8 600Mhz used in a future phone? Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whither open hardware ? (was Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
Hi, I would love to have an open phone with OMAP processor like OpenPandora and BeagleBoard. Both have the OMAP 3530 with 3D acceleration and DSP. Maybe a phone doesn't need the DSP. But it is amazingly powersufficient, IMO. The phone would be up to date from processor power, and there should not be a resource problem so soon, I guess. BeagleBoard and OpenPandora are both well supported in OE, so from SW-side there should not be so much effort (in theorie, you kow...). From HW-side another nicy is the POP (package on package). In the BeagleBoard they are using a variant, where the RAM and NAND (both in one Chip) is soldered on top of the processor, so the high speed lines to DDR-RAM are not going through the PCB (on the other of course, you have the process of soldering...). ... just dreaming ... Joerg On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 20:39 +0100, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org wrote: The 2442 is now about five years old, and it shows all over the place. In an updated but similar design, unlike gta02-core suitable for mass-production, I would use something like the 2450, which has high-speed USB, 2D acceleration, and other goodies. There is also the openpandora project: http://www.open-pandora.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=categorylayout=blogid=2Itemid=2〈=en Is it unsuitable for a phone because of power inefficiency? Can be the ARM Cortex-A8 600Mhz used in a future phone? Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whither open hardware ? (was Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Is it unsuitable for a phone because of power inefficiency? Can be the ARM Cortex-A8 600Mhz used in a future phone? There are many component choices for future phones. Things to consider when choosing chips include: - do they fit the intended purpose ? - are they open enough for our purposes ? - are they available (to us) ? - will they be available as long as we need them ? - are they affordable ? - what are the integration costs ? - what are the opportunity costs ? - do they work as intended ? - how do they fit our technical capabilities ? - what legal exposures do they cause ? Of course, you don't see companies advertize much on the issues listed above. Quite to the contrary - how often does one see a feature presented as patented proprietary technology as if this was a good thing ? - Werner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Hi Risto, what would be your answers? Here is a quick sum up of the answers. Including answers from shr-user list as well: responded 81 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes 55, No 26 Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes 58, No 23 What distribution you run most of the time? (some gave more then 1 distro, max 2 were counted) SHR 63 QTMoko 10 Debian 6 H:1 4 Gentoo 2 Android 2 om2008 2 Kind Regards Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes (GPS and GPRSIRC, for other tasks I use my eeepc) What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-testing If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? I had to go back to my wife's old Nokia but after #1024 fix (http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/2009/12/fixing-openmoko-hardware-bug-1024/) I upgraded to latest SHR-testing and got many issues fixed (battery life and audio quality improved a lot). Thank you :) Thank you :) -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: Hi Risto, what would be your answers? Here is a quick sum up of the answers. Including answers from shr-user list as well: responded 81 Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes 55, No 26 Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes 58, No 23 What distribution you run most of the time? (some gave more then 1 distro, max 2 were counted) SHR 63 QTMoko 10 Debian 6 H:1 4 Gentoo 2 Android 2 om2008 2 Kind Regards Petr Wow, thanks for this summary!! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? Yes since 26c3 Yes H:1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
That can be bug then, I'll try to check it (I'm sure it doesn't happen when sending from opimd-utils) hmm, all my test sms messages to myself eventually arrived during the evening*. i haven't heard notify (but the phone was tucked in my pocket), so most probably not a fr bug unless somewhere deep in framework-calypso communication causing some delays in receiving. but the GSM signal here is quite weak so who knows... * hey, that storage is great, now only the sent view is missing :)) cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 21:30, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Not anymore Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No What distribution you run most of the time? Android If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? HTC Magic (Android) because it works and brings some freedom anyway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes!! Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes! What distribution you run most of the time? Debian!! -- 活着！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
2010/1/1 qu kai qukaim...@gmail.com Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes! but I use i the mobile as often as i used it before i had the moko. (had no other mobile) So not to often. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes! pretty much the same here. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR -- 活着！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
answering for two people here: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? android, shr --- Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? no Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? shr Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Le 29.12.09 21:30, Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No What distribution you run most of the time? SHR or hackable:1 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? The most simple Nokia money can buy. I need to be able to answer phones, not: - scream because buzzing makes it impossible for anybody to understand me - taking 4 times as much time for writng an SMS compared to the most cheap Nokia - constantly loosing SMS or having long SMS cut in two - rebooting two or three times a day before receiving calls or being able to make - taking 5 minutes to write an appointement when it takes me 10 seconds to do with my do-it-yourself-paper-agenda I still like it as GPS and GPRS modem, and as mp3-player, though. I'm planning to fix it in my car as that... I still think it's a great experiment on open-source development, and I don't mind having paid the money for it. Furthermore I get very impressed by the quality of simple Nokia or other phones ;) Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
yes yes H:1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Am Dienstag 29 Dezember 2009 21:30:53 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No What distribution you run most of the time? SHR unstable If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Palm Pre (but never used FR as primary phone), i'm seeing the FR as my toy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
2009/12/29 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Partly - i.e. reading my gmail with links2. Other email is elsewhere, and I don't do electronic calendaring or task tracking. What distribution you run most of the time? Debian. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No, HTC G1 What distribution you run most of the time? In my job on FR : an old shr-testing In my private life : recently switch to Hackable1:rev5 chuck (loving gnome :d) If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Missing calls, Buzz issue (now fixed), EDGE/3G access, battery life and missing integrated hardware keyboard (loving my g1 :d) Thank you :) You're welcome :) r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
2009/12/29 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? Debian. Quite happy nowadays to about everything except lack of 3G data and well, also the GPRS hickups that need some care not to bump into when using Neo's connection from a laptop. Replaced midori with woosh which starts up very fast (compared to midori). It would need packaging, though... One more thing is that some day I should try my luck with navit + speech again. I'm quite fine with TangoGPS for my needs, but navit would make it a real navigator. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Am Dienstag, den 29.12.2009, 22:30 +0200 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? shr-t bernhard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
1) not any more 2) no 3) gentoo 4) opkg nightmares, very slow development, instability of existing core software and i have no time to work on it. using a blackberry. it just works. On 12/29/2009 03:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? not yet Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Have not switched over to FR yet, but still using my 9y old Nokia as PIM is not sufficient on FR yet. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? om2008.12+fdom with qtopia and lot of changes and customizations ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 22:30 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U, but will try QTMoko also If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Sound during calling is still an issue for me. Addressee of my calls are still complaining, even after buzz fix... Thank you :) Thank You! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Still yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? Debian unstable. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? The largest issue currently is sound quality during call. I have managed to get rid of buzz and echo but sometimes people complain that they can't hear what I am saying and sometimes the sound is amplified so much that it gets distorted. I have not been able to identify why this behavior seems to change. Current solution is just to make sure that the amplification is so low that no distortion happens and then use a quick icewm menu entry to up the volume if other side seems to suffer from the can't hear you very loudly issue. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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No and no. Primarily call quality was never satifying, mostly for the other side. Echo is too annoying. Also phone is unreliable because of WSOD. I use my FR as my hacking toy.My primary distro is H:1 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Still yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? Debian unstable. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? The largest issue currently is sound quality during call. I have managed to get rid of buzz and echo but sometimes people complain that they can't hear what I am saying and sometimes the sound is amplified so much that it gets distorted. I have not been able to identify why this behavior seems to change. Current solution is just to make sure that the amplification is so low that no distortion happens and then use a quick icewm menu entry to up the volume if other side seems to suffer from the can't hear you very loudly issue. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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1. not yet 2. not yet 3. QTMoko / H1 I currently use a basic Nokia Phone. I am waiting for a decent agenda synchronisation system to use the FR as a daily phone. Regards, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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yes yes qtmoko/shr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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В Втр, 29/12/2009 в 22:30 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa пишет: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. But in fact I've not use pda before, so not much from that functionality. Most used non-phone functions is music player. Sound quality is nice for phone, happy with upload method - just scp/mc, and with playing software supporting any music formats. Intone in shr have own bugs and sometimes annoyingly slow due to mmc speed, but exactly I want from player. Mplayer in debian-based distributions (moved only soon). What distribution you run most of the time? 80% time were SHR-Unstable, QTmoko for some time, but recently switched to H:1 for phone software, first flashed to test it, but found it better that recent shr on my taste. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? n/a. Problems with FR are not strong enough to switch. Gennady ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? debian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Yes, although i wish it would be better with core phone services Yes SHR-unstable 2009/12/29 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Risto H. Kurppa ha scritto: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r -- Michele Abbrescia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Il giorno Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:30:53 +0200 la Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi cusku di'e: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? not yet Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? debian / qtmoko If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? never switched from my previous phone because of in-call audio quality PIM is getting better, I like osmo very much -- ...all is relative, so don't think you're on the right side... :: send all your mail in plain ASCII text, please :: http://www.ebruni.it/docs/pippolone196/index.htm GPGkey 0xCED2206BLinux counter registered user n° 356433 http://www.no1984.org/ http://www.againsttcpa.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Dec 30, 2009, at 1:08 AM, DRSp. wrote: Am 29.12.2009 21:30, schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U latest ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:30:53 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U lastest If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Missing some PIM (especially phonebook) functionality integration (contact's sort order), audio quality (volume level), battery, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tuesday 29 December 2009 21:30:53 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes What distribution you run most of the time? QtMoko -- Vincent Meurisse ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tuesday 29 December 2009 21:30:53 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Nope, sold it to buy an N900. I enjoyed the concept a lot, but I needed something that works. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Almost, I'm starting in these days. Yes. SHR-U On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Xavier Bestel xavier.bes...@free.frwrote: On Tuesday 29 December 2009 21:30:53 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Nope, sold it to buy an N900. I enjoyed the concept a lot, but I needed something that works. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No. I still test stuff on it when time permits. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No. Currently, I don't have a PDA. The only thing I need from a PDA is to sync with my calendar at work (Exchange mailbox), and the FreeRunner can't do that (yet?). What distribution you run most of the time? QtMoko. Note: I would have tested more distributions had there existed an _easy_ way to boot several distributions (multi-boot) from one SD card. Currently it seems that each distribution requires a different bootloader. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Nokia E61, then a Nokia basic model (the E61 died( I never switched _to_ the FreeRunner, because of the short battery life. Having to charge it one or more times during 8 hours is to much hassle for me, and impractical, as I don't carry a computer with me at all times. I really wanted to use the FreeRunner as a GPS (for tracking), but the short battery life (even shorter with GPS active all the time) makes it impractical. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On 12/30/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No. I still test stuff on it when time permits. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No. Currently, I don't have a PDA. The only thing I need from a PDA is to sync with my calendar at work (Exchange mailbox), and the FreeRunner can't do that (yet?). What distribution you run most of the time? QtMoko. Note: I would have tested more distributions had there existed an _easy_ way to boot several distributions (multi-boot) from one SD card. Currently it seems that each distribution requires a different bootloader. I only know about Android needing forked Qi. Which other distro also requires you to have custom bootloader? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Nokia E61, then a Nokia basic model (the E61 died( I never switched _to_ the FreeRunner, because of the short battery life. Having to charge it one or more times during 8 hours is to much hassle for me, and impractical, as I don't carry a computer with me at all times. Strange, maybe your QtMoko just doesn't do well power management. Here I need to recharge every ~2 days of normal usage, and battery time when using GPS is also just nice, for instance for GSM cell logging (I have second battery from my old Nokia and I don't need more) I really wanted to use the FreeRunner as a GPS (for tracking), but the short battery life (even shorter with GPS active all the time) makes it impractical. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Still yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Define PDA. I use it uniquely for listening music with lyrics, and my own developed dictionary. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U from september. I learned the caveats. I use my modified paroli too. It has bugs, problems, but I know almost all of them. If it starts with cant init wifi service, I will not able to pick up the incoming call for example. The above bug I figured out in 2 months (why dont appear the incoming call screen in paroli). So there are bugs like this, but as I know all of them (never hang up the same time as the other party, because paroli/fso just freezes), I can workaround all of them. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? I began seriously thinking to switching back to a normal phone. The audio quality is unreliable and poor. The largest issue currently is sound quality during call. I have managed to get rid of buzz and echo but sometimes people complain that they can't hear what I am saying and sometimes the sound is amplified so much that it gets distorted. I have not been able to identify why this behavior seems to change. My biggest issue too. It never really worked. I have awesome quality with Motorola old Razor phone (my gf has it), almost never have any issue (buzz, echo, etc) and she is at the same provider. But for example with almost all Samsung phone, they can hardly understand me. I have also problem with Nokia 6300, sometime my voice get chopped, and the other party too. So I hear from 1 sec only half sec, then nothing, another half second, then nothing. If I speak slooowly the other party can understand me. But I pretty often need to guess what the other party wanted to say. Also I have problem with people who have different provider then me (pannon vs. vodafone) What is worst, it has a serious social impact. There are people, who simply refuse to call me, because, my phone is shitty. When the above chopping occurs, the other party starts to be really angry, and starts talking faster and louder, which makes the effect even worse. Talking to landline has no issue in general. So in my humble opinion the audio (hardware+software) on the freerunner is seriously fucked up, and what is worse, the key people never admitted the fact. I tried everything, I fighted with the issue more then 6 months now for a feature which is supposed to JUST WORKs. And I think my settings are the best possible what can be made. As the audio quality depends on the other party's phone (motorola is the best in general), and also the other's provider too, I dont think it can be ever adjusted from software... I only kept using this phone, because of the dictionary and the music listening with lyrics. Thats the only reason. And thats why I cant switch to an other phone I also hate the fact that I need to charge every day my freerunner. I will look into #1024 fix, just the situation is so frustrating. I also miss times to times the incoming call, because Im unable to hear the ringing... Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Not my primary phone, but I use it form time to time to surf the web/play games with Hackable:1 or QtMoko (only distros that connect to web). Not huge fan of SHR, because the interface does not lend itself well to a phone (can't even create+type+send an SMS in less than a minute, much less 15-20 seconds like every other phone ever). My daily phone is the same phone I've had for years, a Motorolla L2 bar phone. -Tonym Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wednesday 30 December 2009, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 12/30/09, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No. I still test stuff on it when time permits. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No. Currently, I don't have a PDA. The only thing I need from a PDA is to sync with my calendar at work (Exchange mailbox), and the FreeRunner can't do that (yet?). What distribution you run most of the time? QtMoko. Note: I would have tested more distributions had there existed an _easy_ way to boot several distributions (multi-boot) from one SD card. Currently it seems that each distribution requires a different bootloader. I only know about Android needing forked Qi. Which other distro also requires you to have custom bootloader? I guess Android only needs a forked Qi because it needed different boot parameters, and Qi can't read them from file when booting from NAND. I find uboot very easy for multibooting. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Nokia E61, then a Nokia basic model (the E61 died( I never switched _to_ the FreeRunner, because of the short battery life. Having to charge it one or more times during 8 hours is to much hassle for me, and impractical, as I don't carry a computer with me at all times. Strange, maybe your QtMoko just doesn't do well power management. Here I need to recharge every ~2 days of normal usage, and battery time when using GPS is also just nice, for instance for GSM cell logging (I have second battery from my old Nokia and I don't need more) I get ~2days between charges most of the time too. GPS tracklogs cut it a lot, more because of not suspending than the GPS power itself, but see below for how this compares to a coupe of other handsets. I really wanted to use the FreeRunner as a GPS (for tracking), but the short battery life (even shorter with GPS active all the time) makes it impractical. I used the FR for recording tracklogs while walking over the summer. Friends were using the GPS on a G1 and a Sony-Ericsson (don't know the model) and they ran into battery problems much faster than I did. I was pleasantly surprised that the FR outperfomed them convincingly in this situation. The S-E also had trouble getting a lock when it couldn't get a cell data connection. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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jeremy jozwik a écrit : On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? yes no hackable:1 , rev5 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Quoting Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? Yes No SHR ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? yes yes and shr-u 20091205 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Battery life, heat generation. Nokia basic model Thank you :) r -- Iain B. Findleton Tel: 514-457-0744 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 29.12.2009 21:34, schrieb jeremy jozwik: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? yes +1 yes +1 and shr-u 20091205 latest ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFLOmw0lYiDScJJ+7QRAhvPAJ46MAfhA7FoS+9GACdDS+65hBV37gCfbYGl UCNkNQvZ6fDiqBwVLbmjJTk= =fJpW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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yes, its my only phone yes, its my only PDA shr-u Von: Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org; shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org Gesendet: Dienstag, den 29. Dezember 2009, 21:30:53 Uhr Betreff: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner? Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? YES! Do you use FR as your primary PDA? YES! What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U Current (I have a working SHR on NAND that I don't update and whenever the update breaks the one on the SD I can switch to NAND until the on the SD card works again). If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Switch? No way! Dirk ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? no What distribution you run most of the time? shr testing If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2009/12/29 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes What distribution you run most of the time? Shr If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Switched back to my old motorola. I kept missing calls and messages ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Le 29/12/2009 21:34, jeremy jozwik a écrit : On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? yes yes SHRu / H:1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Yes Yes QtMoko Regards, Ghislain van der Steen openmobile.nl -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Quick-e-mail-poll-Still-using-your-Freerunner-tp4229399p4229865.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On 12/29/2009 09:34 PM, jeremy jozwik wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No (was hoping to be able to use it by now, but my contract expired so I ordered a new phone) Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U Personal note: I am kind of disappointed with the slow progress of the software (just an observation, not judging it :) ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No. What distribution you run most of the time? [SHR-U] - cd shr-unstable; make image, ... If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Quick-e-mail-poll-Still-using-your-Freerunner-tp4229399p4230851.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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yes yes shr-t latest On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am 29.12.2009 21:30, schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r 1) yes 2) yes shr-u have a happy new year DRSp. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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El día martes, diciembre 29, 2009 a las 10:30:53 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa escribió: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No, but as my daily/only phone; Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No, my primary PDA is a netbook EeePC 900 with FreeBSD; What distribution you run most of the time? Om2008.9 If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? n/a matthias -- Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de - http://www.UnixArea.de/ - http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ «...una sola vez, que es cuanto basta si se trata de verdades definitivas.» «...only once, which is enough if it has todo with definite truth.» José Saramago, Historia del Cerco de Lisboa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
