Tim,
The only threat a patent troll understands is a well funded group of
researchers and lawyers ready and willing to spend millions of dollars
and years of effort to invalidate their prized patent.
Fortunately, such things _do_ exist. I suggest OpenMoko search for,
and solicit help from
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:38 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me link back to one of my Weekly Engineering News (back when they
were still weekly, ahem - I am working hard to get this good
discipline back!)
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td837114
We looked at
- Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In fact... if OpenMoko could make as much information available as
possible about how much this has cost them - in lost productivity,
lawyers fees, etc. - I'm sure it would help to galvanize more action
among the community.
FWIW as this was
It's worth bearing in mind that Alcatel appear to own patents
on MP3 too as they recently got US$1.5 billion in damages from
Microsoft for infringement of them..
http://ipgeek.blogspot.com/2007/02/you-thought-paying-sisvel-ended-your.html
The top google hit ( its over a year old) isn't
- Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The top google hit ( its over a year old) isn't always the best:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10051243-75.html
MS won the appeal on that case.
That's pretty good news!
I'd still rather a format that didn't risk (as much as anyone
can know
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd still rather a format that didn't risk (as much as anyone
can know these days) such lawsuits in the first place..
_All_ software risks such lawsuits.
Software patents are so over-broad, vaguely worded, impenetrably
- Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
_Of course_ we should prefer the Ogg formats - especially with
companies like Sisvel running around - but to believe they are
unassailable by patent trolls, or somehow more safe than other
software is delusional.
That's why I said as much as anyone
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's why I said as much as anyone can know these days.
It just can't be repeated enough. Many people still don't understand
cost - to the community as well as companies - of the ongoing
situation of software patents.
In
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:23:19PM +, Thomas White wrote:
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:15:44 +0800
Ray Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the
download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/
Erk... are you able
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:55:35PM +, Sam Kuper wrote:
http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html
http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/
I understand the MP3 patent issue reasonably well, but couldn't OM use
LAME?[1]
Same problem. all praise software patents, let them die a painful death.
Am 12.11.2008 um 14:55 schrieb Sam Kuper:
I understand the MP3 patent issue reasonably well, but couldn't OM use
LAME?[1] Users could be asked to compile the software themselves
(providing it wasn't made terribly difficult), if that's an issue...
Or have I missed the point?
(Obviously,
Tom,
Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons?
The short story is that we are in a protracted battle with some patent
trolls. Google for Sisvel.
In order to get ourselves in a stronger position, we want to make sure
no copies/instances/whatever of patent-infested
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:34:55PM +, Thomas White wrote:
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:45:12 +
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can give you the rest:
http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html
http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/
Oh, I got that far. I'm
2008/11/12 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:23:19PM +, Thomas White wrote:
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:15:44 +0800
Ray Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the
download server of Openmoko.
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:45:12 +
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can give you the rest:
http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html
http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/
Oh, I got that far. I'm curious to know what's changed in particular
to prompt the sudden removal: has
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:15:44 +0800
Ray Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the
download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/
Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons?
Tom
--
Thomas
Hi list,
Can you just provide the kernel? Because I have to flash FDOM but the
testing kernel does not work with that.
Levy 'Lewis' S.
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